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November 17, 2019, 01:58:19 PM
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I think the project is not the problem, we must know the reason an account got red trust from forum. If that caused the owner's mistake that doesn't mean all project that announced by them are bad project.
Its all depend on us, how we can find good project and avoid scam project, choose your project wisely.

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November 17, 2019, 03:36:07 PM
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Redtrush on the bounty manager will affect the trust of participants in the bounty that is managed, indeed the bounty that is managed is not necessarily scam or fake, but of course participants will lose interest because there is a redtrush that indicates the manager has made a mistake so that the redtrush is given. I myself still check projects that are managed if I find majaer with redtrush.

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November 17, 2019, 03:47:31 PM
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Redtrush on the bounty manager will affect the trust of participants in the bounty that is managed, indeed the bounty that is managed is not necessarily scam or fake, but of course participants will lose interest because there is a redtrush that indicates the manager has made a mistake so that the redtrush is given. I myself still check projects that are managed if I find majaer with redtrush.

It's really obvious that bounty manager is promoting something fishy that's why he got redtrust. with that feed back I lost interest either. we know that there are many different feedback they receive but a feedback of a DT member are different from others thats why they get red mark of their account. they did not obey any rules of this forum. we couldn't blame other users had negative think about this because they are victims as well. we had our own choice to participate or not. if you take any risk of this bounty managers, its your choice. just remember this that all members here warn you to not waste your time to this doubtful managers.

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November 17, 2019, 04:05:59 PM
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For me those bounty managers who got tagged is not a big issue, what matters most is the project itself but I believe that aside from managing bounties, the bounty managers have a duty to make an initial investigation about the project before they promote it, to minimize fake project on this forum but bounty hunters still need to make their own research before joining because it does not guarantee that a respected or tagged bounty manager campaigns are all legit.

 
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November 17, 2019, 04:09:18 PM
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Well, as long as the manager in charge was not a part of the project itself, I think it won't kill you if you joined their bounty. But remember always do your research first, to avoid getting scammed either by the manager or the project. And I believe mods has a good reasons to give them a red trusts or anything. But most cases people will avoid such bounties if managed by a negative trust manager, In case something went wrong. But really, even if you joined a bounty managed by a green trust account manager, it doesnt always mean that the projects are good either. If it comes to this, looks like fortune must've on your side.
Trust is an important reference for bounty managers, a fatal mistake that unfortunately does not erase their negative reputation, but I see only a small number of managers with good reputations and this is quite worrying. There needs to be a reassessment of some managers who can still be given the opportunity, unless indeed the case is already severe and repeatedly carried out, especially in ensuring the projects they manage.

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November 17, 2019, 04:19:13 PM
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@SocialCloud good manager , there are many bounties that he managed well before, but he was given a red trust because in his bounty he was capellaenergy scamed and he didn't know anything about just launching the bounty and the team was not responsible for all this.
Sessia is a successful project managed with red trusts

Rules are rules, that everyone needs to follow or they should accept the punishment regarding about the mistakes that they have made, this happens a lot for those good managers, you could also include @atriz on the list, though he committed a big mistakes therefore the authorities here did what they have to do, it doesn't matter who they are, if they disobeyed the rules, they will be punished so there would be no biased system here in this forum.
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November 17, 2019, 05:41:25 PM
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I think the project is not the problem, we must know the reason an account got red trust from forum. If that caused the owner's mistake that doesn't mean all project that announced by them are bad project.
Its all depend on us, how we can find good project and avoid scam project, choose your project wisely.

There are various reason why someone will get red trust in this forum and I think it doesn't matter when it comes to bounty because I have worked under bounty managers who had red trust but still managed the bounty perfectly and got rewards as well unlike scam projects,  there are bounty manager who got red trust just because they were a part of scam projects without their knowledge as they missed to do proper background checks.

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November 17, 2019, 05:53:53 PM
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Yes, sometimes the red trust bounty manager brings a high-class bounty campaign than a regular bounty manager. Recently Alchemy bounty attracted me, that project is too good and I have a plan to do that bounty but you know what, the bounty manager has several red trusts! Therefore Wapinter has red trust for over years but still, he is coming with good bounties regularly! So, it doesn’t matter who is managing the bounty, the project only matters here! 

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November 17, 2019, 09:21:16 PM
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Redtrush on the bounty manager will affect the trust of participants in the bounty that is managed, indeed the bounty that is managed is not necessarily scam or fake, but of course participants will lose interest because there is a redtrush that indicates the manager has made a mistake so that the redtrush is given. I myself still check projects that are managed if I find majaer with redtrush.
As stated in the topic, it is possible to consider at the issue differently when red trust members are the bounty managers. Being a BM is not as easy as it seems from the edge. As a hunter, you only lose $10-15, but BM loses his monthly effort, money and reputation. Actually, others do not hurt, but your reputation for years is ruined by an any damn project. Now, change sides and consider the theme from the other side.
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November 17, 2019, 09:40:25 PM
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As we all know that accounts with red trusts are those who break the rules on this forum either by plagiarism or scamming habits or even more and newbies are been warned not to engage in any type of deals with them but on bounty part its different, good bounty projects can still be introduced by users with red trust account and this doesn't mean the projects are bad, for example sessia bounty project

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5118659.0

Which actually was a profitable and a successful bounty of this year, new bounty hunters should not be too worried about this, just do your own research on any bounty project
I believe that the red trust should not affect the user's participation in the bounty.Any startup does not care who and how advertises project.

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November 17, 2019, 09:53:22 PM
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@SocialCloud good manager , there are many bounties that he managed well before, but he was given a red trust because in his bounty he was capellaenergy scamed and he didn't know anything about just launching the bounty and the team was not responsible for all this.
Sessia is a successful project managed with red trusts



I agree notice this also some of the boynty project handlie by the red trust manager are get success, some of the red trust account get mark because he/she didn't know the deicde plan of the devs thats why they get red trust people accused as scammer.
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November 17, 2019, 10:22:21 PM
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Yes, sometimes the red trust bounty manager brings a high-class bounty campaign than a regular bounty manager. Recently Alchemy bounty attracted me, that project is too good and I have a plan to do that bounty but you know what, the bounty manager has several red trusts! Therefore Wapinter has red trust for over years but still, he is coming with good bounties regularly! So, it doesn’t matter who is managing the bounty, the project only matters here! 
Yeah, I also think like that. Red or Green trust manager, can't give us guarantee offer a good bounty, but both can be a good campaign manager, yes it can be. Also Wapinter is one of my favorite campaign manager, most of his campaign ended well and participants got their pay.
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November 17, 2019, 10:34:26 PM
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I believe by @SocialCloud managing the projects even if they are still Red trust account but still they can introduce good bounty projects in the thread. In this case if the red trust account can still make a good reputation it should be clear his name for the mistakes he/she has done to served as a model in the community.
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November 17, 2019, 10:50:25 PM
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There are various reason why someone will get red trust in this forum and I think it doesn't matter when it comes to bounty because I have worked under bounty managers who had red trust but still managed the bounty perfectly and got rewards as well unlike scam projects,  there are bounty manager who got red trust just because they were a part of scam projects without their knowledge as they missed to do proper background checks.
Yeah sometime when we join a bounty campaign that manage by red trust member we can get huge reward unlike campaign by netral member. It because people just looking at their reputation forum and don't know exactly what the project is.

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November 17, 2019, 11:19:15 PM
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A red trust can be a sign of abuse and dishonesty, but many times it is given by someone just for envy or personal dislike.
Someone will remember that there were moderators who gave red trusts to everyone for really meaningless things.
You will get red trusted only if you behave in shady behavior and there were some shady characters in the mod positions in the past but they are not longer holding those position but majority of their decisions were meaningful and if they are not taking care of those shady activities the forum would have been a spam land a long back and now there are new users who are taking care of it, you only need to worry when dealing with a user if there is a red trust from DT members as they do not usually put negatives without concrete reasons.
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November 17, 2019, 11:38:04 PM
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Yes indeed, someone who has been hit by a red trust has been labeled as a negative offender. But if we talk on occasion, I think users affected by the red trust may have the ability to promote, or make articles, videos better than normal users.
I am not defending them but just trying to see other possibilities. On the other hand, bounty managers should also pay more attention to them when they join bounties that BM handles. Because just in case they do not commit fraud again as they have previously obtained.



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November 18, 2019, 02:36:27 AM
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Yes indeed, someone who has been hit by a red trust has been labeled as a negative offender. But if we talk on occasion, I think users affected by the red trust may have the ability to promote, or make articles, videos better than normal users.
I am not defending them but just trying to see other possibilities. On the other hand, bounty managers should also pay more attention to them when they join bounties that BM handles. Because just in case they do not commit fraud again as they have previously obtained.

For sure, someone given a red trust is most probably violating a forum rule. That is the presumption. We always think that there is a reason for the respective staff or moderator for giving a particular member that tag. And we also presume that the reason is itself reasonable. But we cannot also say that all red tags are perfectly done or are deserving. But if we talk of skills and abilities red tags do not usually reflect them. Unless the tags are for copying other works or plagiarism.

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November 18, 2019, 03:16:31 AM
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As we all know that accounts with red trusts are those who break the rules on this forum either by plagiarism or scamming habits or even more and newbies are been warned not to engage in any type of deals with them but on bounty part its different, good bounty projects can still be introduced by users with red trust account and this doesn't mean the projects are bad, for example sessia bounty project

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5118659.0

Which actually was a profitable and a successful bounty of this year, new bounty hunters should not be too worried about this, just do your own research on any bounty project
members with red trust means they comitted a mistake which is not allowed in this forum, and most of red trust members are not accepted on bounty campaigns because this might give some low profile to the project.

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November 18, 2019, 03:48:12 AM
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As we all know that accounts with red trusts are those who break the rules on this forum either by plagiarism or scamming habits or even more and newbies are been warned not to engage in any type of deals with them but on bounty part its different, good bounty projects can still be introduced by users with red trust account and this doesn't mean the projects are bad, for example sessia bounty project

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5118659.0

Which actually was a profitable and a successful bounty of this year, new bounty hunters should not be too worried about this, just do your own research on any bounty project
members with red trust means they comitted a mistake which is not allowed in this forum, and most of red trust members are not accepted on bounty campaigns because this might give some low profile to the project.

Mistake are always means they committed it. Some red trust have been allegedly apply to those suspicious one. I know of red trust managers but clearly they have been affected only on the complained of some participants in the campaign but it doesn't mean his guilty of whatever he did. Cause sometime, carelessly they accept projects that pay them for their services but chances that the project could be a scam is still feasible. When that happened on the latter, of course in some way manager is also responsible for promoting it. Anway just avoid some red trust people to deal with but dont judge them directly cause not all are guilty of having red trust.

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November 18, 2019, 08:53:42 AM
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As we all know that accounts with red trusts are those who break the rules on this forum either by plagiarism or scamming habits or even more and newbies are been warned not to engage in any type of deals with them but on bounty part its different, good bounty projects can still be introduced by users with red trust account and this doesn't mean the projects are bad, for example sessia bounty project

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5118659.0

Which actually was a profitable and a successful bounty of this year, new bounty hunters should not be too worried about this, just do your own research on any bounty project
members with red trust means they comitted a mistake which is not allowed in this forum, and most of red trust members are not accepted on bounty campaigns because this might give some low profile to the project.

Yes, you are right, without doing anything other people will not give red trust to the users. Red trust is a very indication which we will not deal with them any more, same thing with the bounty campaign the owners will not encourage them to promote the campaigns. That's why most of the bounty managers will not allow negative trust users.
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