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November 17, 2019, 05:11:57 PM |
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Yes i message him after he message me. That includes Warum (client). If you mean if this msg send by me, no i didnt send any msg like this one.
So you're basically saying that DireWolfM14 doctored the chat logs? I just want you to be absolutely clear about it.
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November 17, 2019, 05:15:32 PM |
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I did but i don't see pics or the msgs itself. Can you make a pic of the msg that i say to you to send me the funds first? Interesting, all of the sudden both accounts seem to have been deleted.
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November 17, 2019, 05:19:14 PM |
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Yes i message him after he message me. That includes Warum (client). If you mean if this msg send by me, no i didnt send any msg like this one.
So you're basically saying that DireWolfM14 doctored the chat logs? I just want you to be absolutely clear about it. First of all idk a thing about any kind of teck in this, so i dont know what "doctored" means... Secondly my time zone and IP etc can easily verified so we can see what time i suppose to send him any msg, since i was not in a PC or in any internet point. Finaly i repeat that i never send any msg to DW regarding sending me any kind of funds and so i NEVER msg him ANY address of mine. I insisting to check the name of the guy who send to DW the msg with "my" addy and the words that i want him to send me any funds. Any change in that username/ profile will clear the case. I think i'm clear enough.
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November 17, 2019, 05:20:40 PM |
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I did but i don't see pics or the msgs itself. Can you make a pic of the msg that i say to you to send me the funds first? Interesting, all of the sudden both accounts seem to have been deleted. Still though, my real account remains and you can send him a msg now... It's more than clear that someone use my username which can be done, in order to scam you and accuse me. EDIT: So can you please remove the false neg?! Omg man, you can't see your own image? My account is STILL active...
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November 17, 2019, 05:29:38 PM |
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Ok, as you wish. I strongly advice you to know better before accusing someone and at least, learn how to verify people on TG.
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November 17, 2019, 05:39:20 PM |
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First of all idk a thing about any kind of teck in this, so i dont know what "doctored" means... Secondly my time zone and IP etc can easily verified so we can see what time i suppose to send him any msg, since i was not in a PC or in any internet point. Finaly i repeat that i never send any msg to DW regarding sending me any kind of funds and so i NEVER msg him ANY address of mine. I insisting to check the name of the guy who send to DW the msg with "my" addy and the words that i want him to send me any funds. Any change in that username/ profile will clear the case.
I think i'm clear enough.
We can't really verify any IPs or timezones here and that wouldn't prove anything anyway. The best I can figure out from your explanation is that you're claiming that the person in the group chat is not you. How did that person know everything about the deal? And who is the "client"?
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November 17, 2019, 05:44:22 PM |
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First of all idk a thing about any kind of teck in this, so i dont know what "doctored" means... Secondly my time zone and IP etc can easily verified so we can see what time i suppose to send him any msg, since i was not in a PC or in any internet point. Finaly i repeat that i never send any msg to DW regarding sending me any kind of funds and so i NEVER msg him ANY address of mine. I insisting to check the name of the guy who send to DW the msg with "my" addy and the words that i want him to send me any funds. Any change in that username/ profile will clear the case.
I think i'm clear enough.
We can't really verify any IPs or timezones here and that wouldn't prove anything anyway. The best I can figure out from your explanation is that you're claiming that the person in the group chat is not you. How did that person know everything about the deal? And who is the "client"? I'm just saying that you can check the log files of my real account there and see if i was on the time that DW gets the msgs and create a NEW chat with these guys. As i said earlier, because it happen again in the past some scammers to try and "copy cat" lenders around here in TG, i'm most that certain that those guys try to scam DW. Btw if an account is deleted from a chat, is deleted from everywhere and my account is still on his list, plus the chat that i create.... Idk who is he, only the username "Warum".
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November 17, 2019, 05:44:55 PM |
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@DireWolfM14: is it possible someone was impersonating condoras? There's never been a verified signed message proving it's the real person. Also: the Zip files contain many files, but Google Drive doesn't let me open messages.html. Can you upload it as text only somewhere? @condoras: I disagree with (negative) retaliation feedback. Please reconsider, this is not helping your case, and can only lead to you being excluded from DT. Also: your explanation is a bit chaotic, which doesn't help your case either. And: check https://bitcointalk.org/myips.php, see if someone else has accessed your account.
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November 17, 2019, 05:55:27 PM |
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@DireWolfM14: is it possible someone was impersonating condoras? There's never been a verified signed message proving it's the real person. Also: the Zip files contain many files, but Google Drive doesn't let me open messages.html. Can you upload it as text only somewhere? @condoras: I disagree with (negative) retaliation feedback. Please reconsider, this is not helping your case, and can only lead to you being excluded from DT. Also: your explanation is a bit chaotic, which doesn't help your case either. And: check https://bitcointalk.org/myips.php, see if someone else has accessed your account. I also disagree with accusing me based on false or misunderstood things and call them evidence. There is no retaliation here, i will remove it when he removes it. Besides if he see it, maybe he can see and his mistake. Also there is no case since he post the pics, it's perfectly clear, at least to my eyes. They try firstly with DW, it could be easy being me their first choise to try and scam. As i said it's been done in the past. You can understand though that i cannot let DW to mark me based on false things... Can you tell me what from my story is chaotic? What thing is uncleared? EDIT: Noone access my account besides me. All these years is only me and me alone. You can also check my TG, a lot people here can. EDIT2: Negative feedback removed.
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November 17, 2019, 06:01:52 PM Last edit: November 17, 2019, 06:27:19 PM by DireWolfM14 |
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@DireWolfM14: is it possible someone was impersonating condoras? There's never been a verified signed message proving it's the real person. Also: the Zip files contain many files, but Google Drive doesn't let me open messages.html. Can you upload it as text only somewhere? That is indeed possible. Now that I see the account I thought was Condoras' in the second group discussion has been deleted, and the one in the first is still there (and that's the one I contacted,) it seems quite plausible. The "Client" certainly could have started the second conversation posing as Condoras. I will add that the account only just got deleted minutes before I posted this reply. It leads me to suspect whoever is behind "Warum Loan Client" is here reading this topic. I've removed my negative tag. I now recognize it's impossible to prove that Condoras was part of the second group discussion titled "Escrow," and that's where all the really shady shit happened. Here are the discussions. The time stamp is based on UTC -8 (Pacific Standard Time.) First Conversation with the account I contacted: Antony️ 🏴☠️ 14 November 2019 12:22 Dire Wolf Hey Condoras, how are you? 12:23 I can cover that loan, but at 120% collateral, that amounts to 0.313 BTC for 55 LTC. 12:24 Antony️ 🏴☠️ Hey man, happy to see you 12:24 120% ofc by all means 12:24 i'm talking with this guy and waiting to reply 12:24 Dire Wolf If you want to cover part of it, and I can cover the other part we can do it that way 12:24 Antony️ 🏴☠️ as soon as i have news from him, i will let you know 12:25 Dire Wolf cool, thanks for allowing me to help 12:25 Antony️ 🏴☠️ In reply to this message Idk if i can cover even a small part since i get scammed today from a "casino" my ass 12:25 Dire Wolf oh shit, sorry to hear that 12:25 Antony️ 🏴☠️ Sorry for my language 12:26 Dire Wolf what fucking language? 12:26 Antony️ 🏴☠️ In reply to this message Yeap,i'm just almost fucked up 12:26 In reply to this message Ahahaha 12:26 thx man, you make laugh a bit 12:27 So i thought it will be good someone from the ppl that i trust and do lending to get this, if it s legit and not some troll 12:27 How much interest you want me to say to him? 12:28 Dire Wolf I appreciate it, thanks. My interest for collateral loan is 0.1% per day, 3% per month 12:30 Antony️ 🏴☠️ Ok 12:30 I send him a msg,wait for his reply. I hope to be true... 12:33 You will be here for a long time or you need to leave? I mean go to sleep or something else... 12:34 Idk your zone sorry 12:34 Dire Wolf I'm at work, it's 12:33 in the afternoon for me 12:34 I do have a couple of meetings this afternoon, but I'll be around 12:34 Antony️ 🏴☠️ ok great 13:01 Antony️ 🏴☠️ Still no reply...😕 13:02 When i have a reply for him, i let you know man 13:51 Antony️ 🏴☠️ Here? 13:53 You want me to put you in our conversation with the client as the escrow of the deal ? 13:55 He is ok to use an escrow btw 13:59 Or you want me to present you as a partner of mine? 14:04 Dire Wolf hey, sorry I was in a meeting away from my desk. 14:04 Antony️ 🏴☠️ My bad man 14:05 Dire Wolf No worries, I'm going to be on and off for the next two hours or so 14:05 Antony️ 🏴☠️ So i will put you in our chat with the guy ok? 14:05 Dire Wolf sounds good 14:07 Antony️ 🏴☠️ Warum Loan client +381 63 869 6965 14:07 This is the guy 14:07 Idk how i can add you in the chat... 14:07 need to make a new one? 14:07 Dire Wolf I think so, I've never done that 14:11 he's asking me about the fee, what should I tell him? 14:11 Antony️ 🏴☠️ Whatever i guess 0.5 or 1% tops is the current mid fee for escrow 14:16 He cant know who will loan him 14:17 So i think its better to know that is me that i loan him 14:17 Dire Wolf okay, no problem 14:21 Antony️ 🏴☠️ See you tomorrow man and thx for the help 14:21 Dire Wolf see you tomorrow 16:05 Dire Wolf Hey, I need an address to send the coins, can you please sign a message? Second Conversation: Titled "Loan." Loan Deal 14 November 2019 Antony️ 🏴☠️ created group «Loan Deal» with members Antony️ 🏴☠️, Dire Wolf and Warum Loan client 14:08 Dire Wolf Hello 14:08 Warum Loan client Hi there 14:08 Antony️ 🏴☠️ Ok,all good i guess :- 14:09 Warum Loan client So its about loan eth ltc 14:09 Antony️ 🏴☠️ Oh not BTC - LTC? 14:09 You insist on ETH loan? 14:09 Warum Loan client Nope check msges 14:09 I mean that about we talked? 14:09 Antony️ 🏴☠️ Ok, my bad indeed... 14:10 I see them now, you want ETH 14:10 Dire its ok with you? 14:10 Dire Wolf I'm sorry I don't have the ETH to cover that loan, I thought it was BTC 14:11 Antony️ 🏴☠️ Yes and i have problem with ETH too... 😞 14:11 Warum Loan client Ehh will you have eth tomorow or today? 14:11 Or 2 3 days? 14:12 I can maybe take btc but tomorow i prefer eth 14:12 Antony️ 🏴☠️ Can we talk tomorrow then and check our availability on ETH? 14:13 Dire Wolf unfortunately I won't have that much ETH, and no plans to 14:13 Warum Loan client Alright so btc possible eth currently no okay 14:13 Ill probably need it tomorow 14:13 Btc one 14:14 Antony️ 🏴☠️ Btc is more easier for me and Dire as well aas you see 14:14 Besides we are from Bitcointalk... 14:14 Warum Loan client But just one thing who will be escrow you or dire?and who loan me? 14:14 Dire Wolf sorry guys, trying to participate in a meeting while I'm chatting 14:15 I'm not ignoring you 14:15 Antony️ 🏴☠️ Ok Dire 14:15 Warum Loan client So just to confirm 3% interest ltc btc loan 14:15 ? 14:15 Dire Wolf correct 14:15 Antony️ 🏴☠️ per month 14:15 Warum Loan client And you are escrow or dire 14:15 Repayment 29.12.19 14:16 Antony️ 🏴☠️ I prefer Dire to have the collateral 14:16 Warum Loan client Oki so tomorrow we can make btc ltc loan right? 14:16 Dire Wolf I will provide signed messages, and the collateral stays in the address the whole time, on my hardware wallet 14:17 Antony️ 🏴☠️ Sounds good to my ears 14:17 Warum Loan client All good 14:18 I contact you anthony later ir tomorow for loan 14:18 Until later cya guys 14:18 Antony️ 🏴☠️ Due the "problem" of different time zones you want us to be ready tomorrow at spesific time for the deal? 14:18 Warum Loan client Like 14 pm cet 14:19 Is that ok? 14:19 Antony️ 🏴☠️ I be here. Dire it's ok with you? 14:19 Dire Wolf perfect 14:19 Warum Loan client Okay cya guys 14:19 Antony️ 🏴☠️ Happy to talk to you both, see you tomorrow then Mr Warum 14:20 Warum Loan client Too 14:20 Antony️ 🏴☠️ You can contact me here Mr Warum so Dire to see it as well 14:20 Thank you in advance 14:20 Warum Loan client Also 14:21 Dire Wolf thanks guys, see you tomorrow Third Conversation: (Second Group Discussion) Titled "Escrow." Escrow 14 November 2019 Warum Loan client created group «Escrow» with members Warum Loan client, Dire Wolf and Antony️ 🏴☠️ 14:25 Antony️ 🏴☠️ Actually Dire , he want btc loan tonight.can you fill it? Same deal, 55ltc collateral 14:25 Warum Loan client So repayment datw stay same 29.12.19 with 3% interest 14:26 Antony️ 🏴☠️ How much btc i get exact? 14:26 He* 14:27 Dire Wolf I will be away from my computer for about an hour, is that okay? 14:27 Antony️ 🏴☠️ Np we will wait for you.but can you fill this loan tonight? 14:27 Warum Loan client I will be here sure 14:27 Dire Wolf Yeah, I can 14:28 Warum Loan client Guys let me know ammount of btc i get exact 14:28 Okay so in 1h we maje this? 14:28 Antony️ 🏴☠️ Good, ill be also online @DireWolfM14 ping us when you are back 14:29 Dire Wolf 55 LTC will allow 0.313 BTC loan 14:29 Antony️ 🏴☠️ 55 Ltc -20% in Btc equal ammount 14:29 Thats right 0.313 14:29 Warum Loan client Oki seems fine i wait you guys 14:29 So not now in 1h? 14:30 Thatw 00 30 cet ? 14:31 Antony️ 🏴☠️ Not correct in minute but @DireWolfM14 comes ~ 14:37 Dire Wolf -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256
LTC collateral address for Warum's loan: MVb8iPpHQrjEKdj1gDo9MvxPTP3Yr2ycYL -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEj+SnoCiYCpIUPy6Tb8DUkPoYYbgFAl3N1yEACgkQb8DUkPoY YbinVAf+Ll6LR+P45khHZrCV/j96FITNf7/1CPS0ftSCFsVs0vtfj8XA0JNAM+JV CcT/1iGrHrJdjRGZt+pPjQs+UrT2k0+SX661T0J1syZQkfZvcqzu+WDqjjR2s532 zhWG9IENyK+ChN9LBK7zziflQS5WTbCCR5M84wtcJfdWUiK/WY4ZWWtzziriLmWO NDNaz/6N8fqWELFQ94MA61lsl42zp6mmDKBalyV0nYCXvi5PyILinJ3OQmAn6dNM KCI/p2ik3DVnQatT1VXZbStzN/skluGQKTWJ3FP2T0mia/MDdKztM0l23L4xjvxD kT3Da97ROFWEeJmmdjTW65SoVkN89A== =zX+Z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 14:38 PGP Fingerprint: 8FE4A7A028980A92143F2E936FC0D490FA1861B8 14:38 You can verify at keybase 14:40 Warum Loan client Oki can we proceed now? 14:40 Dire Wolf I'm still in a meeting, but should be done in about 20 minutes 14:41 Warum Loan client Ok i wait here 14:41 Dire Wolf looks like my other meeting got cancelled, but maybe not 14:42 Antony️ 🏴☠️ I m also active more 1h so i guees we will finish this tonight 14:43 As Mr Warum ask he demand you sending BTC to my wallet, he check txid, than he send collateral to you.this is totally fine for me , but say me Dire is this okay with you? 14:44 I understand him as its high value but we are old loaners and btctalk members, anyway Warum i think this should be not problem but wait for Dire to come back 14:45 Warum Loan client So this is my first time taking loan i send collateral to this adress up? 14:45 Antony️ 🏴☠️ Yes the one Dire sent you 14:46 But wait he come back from meeting 14:46 Dire Wolf hey guys, I have to step away for a bit, I'll be back in about 40 minutes. So sorry, usually it's not this crazy around here, lol 14:47 Antony️ 🏴☠️ Np you r welcome 14:47 Warum Loan client Is this for sure 40min? Just asking 14:48 Antony️ 🏴☠️ I guees he said before 20mins , 1 hour he need so it will be arround 40min .Dire take your time if Mr Warum can wait 14:53 Warum Loan client Ill wait say me when all rdy also whats repayment adress 15:07 Antony️ 🏴☠️ Dire will provide you repayment adress 15:22 Warum Loan client Im online guys and waiting ready just to know 15:45 Dire Wolf hey guys, work day is finaly over, I'm here for you 15:45 sorry about the delay 15:45 Antony️ 🏴☠️ No problem take your time so 15:46 So as you wish you Mr Warum, Dire will release btc to me.You will send 55lLtc to him ,once he confirm ,you will receive BTC . 3% monthly interest + 0.5% escrow fees. Dire will provide you repayment adress 15:46 Warum Loan client Im here also 15:46 Rdy 15:47 Dire Wolf I'll send you a signed message from the address with the coins 15:47 Warum Loan client So when dire send to you btc i send ltc to adress he said right? 15:47 Ye but i prefer that i know btc is at him 15:47 Antony️ 🏴☠️ I think we can make it like he ask but he will cover double transaction fees 15:47 If you agree Dire we can start now 15:48 Warum Loan client Ok np i cover that fees 15:48 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256
LTC collateral address for Warum's loan: MVb8iPpHQrjEKdj1gDo9MvxPTP3Yr2ycYL -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEj+SnoCiYCpIUPy6Tb8DUkPoYYbgFAl3N1yEACgkQb8DUkPoY YbinVAf+Ll6LR+P45khHZrCV/j96FITNf7/1CPS0ftSCFsVs0vtfj8XA0JNAM+JV CcT/1iGrHrJdjRGZt+pPjQs+UrT2k0+SX661T0J1syZQkfZvcqzu+WDqjjR2s532 zhWG9IENyK+ChN9LBK7zziflQS5WTbCCR5M84wtcJfdWUiK/WY4ZWWtzziriLmWO NDNaz/6N8fqWELFQ94MA61lsl42zp6mmDKBalyV0nYCXvi5PyILinJ3OQmAn6dNM KCI/p2ik3DVnQatT1VXZbStzN/skluGQKTWJ3FP2T0mia/MDdKztM0l23L4xjvxD kT3Da97ROFWEeJmmdjTW65SoVkN89A== =zX+Z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 15:49 Here i send ltc? 15:49 Antony️ 🏴☠️ Thats right, Dire do you agree to start? 15:49 Dire Wolf sure, that's ok with me, Condoras, can you send me a signed message on the forum for the address? 15:50 Antony️ 🏴☠️ Sure why not . i know that this is not how usually works loan but he inssist 15:50 There is attached to my profile 15:50 Warum Loan client Im waiting you guys i got ltc 15:50 Dire Wolf ok, great 15:51 In reply to this message yes, here: MVb8iPpHQrjEKdj1gDo9MvxPTP3Yr2ycYL 15:51 Warum Loan client Ok 15:51 Antony️ 🏴☠️ qrqcf7ymhg55u0t9pcexj9k8qrrd3hu385uxj9hu5u , but Warum you will receive btc when Dire confirm ltc 15:52 Warum Loan client Ok i know im ok with it 15:53 Antony️ 🏴☠️ Btw Warum you can check my and Dire feedback , there is no need for this complication as you lose transaction fees 15:53 Anyway you pay it so repayment 29.12.19 3% interest 15:54 @DireWolfM14 provide you repayment adrress 15:54 Warum Loan client All clear 15:54 I just need txid so i see btc is real and im on sending ltc 15:54 Sry its high value for me 15:55 Dire Wolf -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- This is DireWolfM14 confirming funds 14 NOV 2019 -----BEGIN SIGNATURE----- 33rhSk8iYGzkwDWSjYEWaRR4nf2bW9Zpqa H96d7fXLHPrU1Ib0nqahnD12GQJjI8nd7LMjSdVCmxLGERLmDh2YXhV1hdljz25dwjFbl0ADGMoluJEoWAEh0bU= -----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- 15:55 this is the address with the coin 15:55 you may have to use Electrum to verify 15:56 this will be repayment address: 348XXjbpXwg37JYd8knLnHRSMajLbteSbJ 15:56 Warum Loan client I never done this before idk how i check 15:56 Ok repayment got it 15:56 Dire Wolf do you have electrum? 15:56 Warum Loan client Nope but i may make it 15:56 Why 15:57 Dire Wolf it's a desktop wallet, it will allow you to check the signed message 15:57 Antony️ 🏴☠️ @DireWolfM14 i think its simpliest to make as he want as all long night he ask for this demand 15:58 Dire Wolf no problem, I can send to condoras 15:58 Antony️ 🏴☠️ But only when ltc have all confirmation i will release btc to you Warum 15:58 Warum Loan client Ye thats all i need ti see txid and all good 15:58 Warum Loan client Dire Wolf 14.11.2019 15:58:11 no problem, I can send to condoras 15:59 Antony️ 🏴☠️ @DireWolfM14 here it is: 1s1yBtD16SurC1x8QAWnQswwnT5oS6fAd feel free to put transaction fees to high due time as he cover it 16:00 Warum Loan client So 3% plus 0.5% or just 3%? 16:01 Dire Wolf since I'll be holding the collateral, it's just 3%, but I have to take tx fees from the LTC when I send back 16:01 Warum Loan client Fine 16:01 What if i pay befire 29.12? Different interest? 16:01 Antony️ 🏴☠️ 3% per month 16:02 Dire Wolf 0.1% per day, so if you pay early I'll calculate it to the day 16:02 Warum Loan client Oki that is fine 16:02 Dire Wolf all my info is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5132594.msg50633585#msg50633585 16:03 repayment address is also on that page 16:03 Warum Loan client Im waiting for you guys ,so when i send ltc i wait until all confirm than i receive btc from condoras? 16:03 Antony️ 🏴☠️ Correct 16:05 Warum Loan client Ok so im rdy all conditions are fine 16:05 Antony️ 🏴☠️ Alright wait for txid as you wish as Dire use physical wallet need little time 16:07 Warum Loan client Ok so i send yoy now my btc adress where you send me after ltc right 16:08 Dire Wolf you can send it now 16:08 Warum Loan client Ok sec , so can we proceeed? 16:09 Im just waiting for you guys 16:09 Antony️ 🏴☠️ @DireWolfM14 how long you need ? 16:09 Dire Wolf I'm sorry I got confused, I need an address 16:10 condoras, can you please send me a signed message with the address on the forum? 16:10 Warum Loan client Hah i understand he want another way of loan 16:11 Yes sure but just one second isnt it easier like always to make loan? Usually Warum we proceed like send collateral get loan no txid and so 16:11 This is what cond wrote me 16:12 I am couruous as its high value for me 16:12 I just wanna really know its all legit 16:12 Antony️ 🏴☠️ Antony️ 🏴☠️ 14.11.2019 15:59:59 @DireWolfM14 here it is: 1s1yBtD16SurC1x8QAWnQswwnT5oS6fAd feel free to put transaction fees to high due time as he cover it 16:13 Antony️ 🏴☠️ There is signed on my profle check 16:13 Dire Wolf no address in your profile: 16:13 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=740502 16:14 Warum Loan client Or even make txid with 10% of loan so i can see your current walet stat 16:14 This is also ok for me 16:14 Dire Wolf https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/33rhSk8iYGzkwDWSjYEWaRR4nf2bW9Zpqa 16:16 ok, how about this; I send you 0.0001 BTC to your wallet, then you send the LTC, then I send the rest, ok? 16:16 Warum Loan client From same wallet? 16:16 Dire Wolf yes, of course 16:16 Warum Loan client Or like send 0.001 to cond and post txid im alsi ok with it 16:17 Dire Wolf that works too 16:17 Warum Loan client Fine for me just wanna see txid 16:17 And can y resend me ltc adress 16:19 Dire Wolf 8897eccf11c3e6ddb5735726053ce7df8c9a6821d009c4a127289e7850b91d23 16:19 Warum Loan client Hmm but how can i be sure you have all btc i want to loan 0.001 is like 10usd. I just checked and my loan is near 3k usd 16:20 Sec i check txid 16:21 Can we just make like i asked before? Once i see cond really have all btc for my loan im instant sending ltc 16:21 Antony️ 🏴☠️ Ah @DireWolfM14 i said hes too complicated 16:22 But lets just finish this.once more you will cover all transaction fees 16:22 Dire Wolf Condoras, I'm not seeing this address on the forum: 1s1yBtD16SurC1x8QAWnQswwnT5oS6fAd 16:23 Antony️ 🏴☠️ Btw warum check my and dire adress we have big volume trade 16:23 I can sing it np but this goes too complicated 16:24 Dire Wolf I think I'm going to back out of this deal, I'm sorry but I'm not comfortable with what's going on. 16:24 Warum Loan client What about he sent 0.01 btc i send equal ltc and small stepz 16:24 This is fine? 16:24 I know sry guys i lost 300usd yesterday 16:25 Antony️ 🏴☠️ If you go out im gonna refund but maybe wecan do this last? 16:25 Antony️ 🏴☠️ Warum Loan client 14.11.2019 16:24:22 What about he sent 0.01 btc i send equal ltc and small stepz 16:25 Antony️ 🏴☠️ @DireWolfM14 i think this is reasonable 16:26 Warum Loan client I lost 300usd yesterday seeking loan thatz why i do this 16:26 Antony️ 🏴☠️ If you agree last one dire we can go otherwise we cancel i refund your btc 16:28 Dire Wolf Yeah, I think I would rather cancel. I'm sorry I'm just not comfortable with this anymore 16:28 Antony️ 🏴☠️ We understand but this is not how usuallt works 16:28 Antony️ 🏴☠️ Warum Loan client 14.11.2019 16:26:19 I lost 300usd yesterday seeking loan thatz why i do this 16:28 Antony️ 🏴☠️ Sorry Warum trade is canceled 16:28 Warum Loan client Hmmm...... 16:28 I wait wholw day but ok 16:29 Is there any way we can go? 16:29 I rly need 16:29 Dire Wolf make an account on the forum, and post here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5132594.msg50633585#msg50633585 16:30 Antony️ 🏴☠️ @DireWolfM14 can you cover 0.005 btc to me? I repay in 2days i am gonna giv3 him loan with all i have 16:30 Dire Wolf but you have to be willing to send the collateral directly to me first. I'm sorry but that's the only way I will proceed. 16:30 Warum Loan client Let me read about this on forum 16:31 Antony️ 🏴☠️ ? 16:31 Antony️ 🏴☠️ Antony️ 🏴☠️ 14.11.2019 16:30:09 @DireWolfM14 can you cover 0.005 btc to me? I repay in 2days i am gonna giv3 him loan with all i have 16:32 Antony️ 🏴☠️ Willing to share 60% of my interest with you 16:34 Let me know 16:34 And if not sendme your refund adress 16:37 Dire Wolf you can send back here, I'll cover the tx fees, slow is fine: 348XXjbpXwg37JYd8knLnHRSMajLbteSbJ
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November 17, 2019, 06:10:49 PM Merited by DireWolfM14 (1) |
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That is indeed possible. Now that I see the account I thought was Condoras' in the second group discussion has been deleted, and the one in the first is still there (and that's the one I contacted,) it seems quite plausible. The "Client" certainly could have started the second conversation posing as Condoras.
I've removed my negative tag. I now recognize it's impossible to prove that Condoras was part of the second group discussion titled "Escrow," and that's where all the really shady shit happened.
It would be nice to hear a big "sorry" for all this mess, as i would like to thank you for notifying me and get here to explain. We can prevent all this fuss if you contact me directly, the moment you get a msg from another "Condoras" and tell you to be on another chat room. Anyway, i don't hold any grudges or bad feelings but please be more carefull when you accuse someone. P.S: You can say that you sorry with a big meme or pic here... (jk)
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@condoras, I would like to issue an official public apology. I'm sorry I accused you of being part of this scam attempt.
Just this morning someone contacted me on Telegram asking me to provide escrow for his collateral so he could a loan from member jbdee. I quickly provided the two an address to use and posted it here on the forum in my escrow thread. The scammer then created an account to impersonate me, started another group discussion with jbdee and the impostor account, and gave jbdee a different address. But since I had already provided an address, jbdee was spared from the scam, and recognized the other account as an impostor.
I now believe that you were lured into a very similar attempt to scam me.
This type of scam is a new one for me. Start a discussion with a reputable member, then impersonate that member in another group discussion. This morning makes at least two instances where I know it failed, I wonder if it has ever worked for this scumbag. Considering the amount of time invested in attempting these types of scams, you would think the guy could that much effort into something legitimate, and be profitable and successful.
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November 23, 2019, 05:47:58 PM Merited by DireWolfM14 (1) |
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To quote a wise man/woman/non-binary person from a page ago: ... The Other Member.. sent me a PM asking me to connect with him on Telegram ...
Stop right there. I'm often asked "are you this-or-that-person on telegram", which probably means that scammers are impersonating anyone they can, and that telegram is a mess (and I mean Skype-level total shitshow) when it comes to usernames/nicknames.
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November 23, 2019, 06:47:35 PM Merited by DireWolfM14 (2) |
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@condoras, I would like to issue an official public apology. I'm sorry I accused you of being part of this scam attempt.
Apology is more than accepted. It's a good thing to aknowledge your mistakes and try not to make the same again (that goes to all of us). So everything is good here, no grudge or hard feelings from my side. Just this morning someone contacted me on Telegram asking me to provide escrow for his collateral so he could a loan from member jbdee. I quickly provided the two an address to use and posted it here on the forum in my escrow thread. The scammer then created an account to impersonate me, started another group discussion with jbdee and the impostor account, and gave jbdee a different address. But since I had already provided an address, jbdee was spared from the scam, and recognized the other account as an impostor.
I now believe that you were lured into a very similar attempt to scam me.
This type of scam is a new one for me. Start a discussion with a reputable member, then impersonate that member in another group discussion. This morning makes at least two instances where I know it failed,I wonder if it has ever worked for this scumbag.
Is not the first time (as i said in some of my previous posts in this thread) and as it looks, it wont be the last. As it seems they try to create an account that looks as much as they can to the original one and establish a "connection-chat group" with the victim. They also try to find and copycat trusted members around so they can persuade the victim easier and send them the funds as fast as they can. I believe that we can secure it in a way by making some tricks like putting a banner or a small sign in our profile, so to know if the account is the official one. Ofc if someone have the original account in his TG list, he can verify it in no time. Considering the amount of time invested in attempting these types of scams, you would think the guy could that much effort into something legitimate, and be profitable and successful.
What time they invest here man? No real time at all. They try to trick others with our "names" alone. Without any need to "create" any documents or paperwork or edit a thing. Just change a digit or a letter and...here we go, let's scam!
To quote a wise man/woman/non-binary person from a page ago: ... The Other Member.. sent me a PM asking me to connect with him on Telegram ...
Stop right there. I'm often asked "are you this-or-that-person on telegram", which probably means that scammers are impersonating anyone they can, and that telegram is a mess (and I mean Skype-level total shitshow) when it comes to usernames/nicknames. You are right about the TG mess and the shitshow (lol) but don't blame the tool because it's a tool. If they use it for wrong purposes and goals doesn't make it bad. As long as we use it as we should be and be careful, then is a fine good tool. P.S: @DW Know you know who is the real me...
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Apology is more than accepted. Much appreciated. Unless the community is apposed, I'd like to keep this thread open. I think it can serve as a warning to those who use alternative messaging services.
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