The BCH value in forum wallets

[TwitchySeal]

That is one hell of a job for TMAN to find court docs about OGnasty. Its almost like he has a vendetta against him or something

KY do you ever actually spend more than 20 seconds before posting? I didn't  find shit - I quoted twitchy.

FFS son, please leave the adults alone

Kind of an interesting read if you don't mind transcripts: https://www.gwern.net/docs/bitcoin/pirateat40/secvs.pirateat401.pdf

I should prob stop derailing this thread now

"TL;DR, court documents prove all of my baseless speculation true."

Not baseless speculation, I did my research it's well documented:  here (there's a TLDR; at the bottom of this one if it's too many words for you), here, and here.  

There's also this:

[TECSHARE]

That is one hell of a job for TMAN to find court docs about OGnasty. Its almost like he has a vendetta against him or something

KY do you ever actually spend more than 20 seconds before posting? I didn't  find shit - I quoted twitchy.

FFS son, please leave the adults alone

Kind of an interesting read if you don't mind transcripts: https://www.gwern.net/docs/bitcoin/pirateat40/secvs.pirateat401.pdf

I should prob stop derailing this thread now

"TL;DR, court documents prove all of my baseless speculation true."

Not baseless speculation, I did my research it's well documented:  here (there's a TLDR; at the bottom of this one if it's too many words for you), here, and here.  

There's also this:

https://i.gyazo.com/e306d4ed3b3f6ef417db8f44d99e06b7.png

You have established he was involved, so where a lot of high profile people on this forum. The baseless speculation part is where you assume he had knowledge of any criminal activity as you pass judgement after the fact captain hindsight.

[suchmoon]

You have established he was involved, so where a lot of high profile people on this forum. The baseless speculation part is where you assume he had knowledge of any criminal activity as you pass judgement after the fact captain hindsight.

Calling OgNasty an utter moron who doesn't know what 7% weekly means? You should be ashamed of yourself.

[TwitchySeal]

That is one hell of a job for TMAN to find court docs about OGnasty. Its almost like he has a vendetta against him or something

KY do you ever actually spend more than 20 seconds before posting? I didn't  find shit - I quoted twitchy.

FFS son, please leave the adults alone

Kind of an interesting read if you don't mind transcripts: https://www.gwern.net/docs/bitcoin/pirateat40/secvs.pirateat401.pdf

I should prob stop derailing this thread now

"TL;DR, court documents prove all of my baseless speculation true."

Not baseless speculation, I did my research it's well documented:  here (there's a TLDR; at the bottom of this one if it's too many words for you), here, and here.  

There's also this:

https://i.gyazo.com/e306d4ed3b3f6ef417db8f44d99e06b7.png

You have established he was involved, so where a lot of high profile people on this forum. The baseless speculation part is where you assume he had knowledge of any criminal activity as you pass judgement after the fact captain hindsight.

Dude come on I never said that.  I'm accusing him of lying and being deceptive about what happened after the fact to improve his reputation. I explicitly said I wasn't accusing him of scamming. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2834153.msg31580963#msg31580963

Please just do you own research so I don't have to keep spelling things out for you.

[TheNewAnon135246]

I'm sure he would have paid the funds to me had I spoken up about it.  Just like I would have paid him whatever GBYTE had he spoken up about it.

/thread

Did you inform Theymos that you were going to use the forum funds to claim an airdrop? If not, how would you expect Theymos to speak up if he wasn't aware of it?

Bumping this, would still like to hear an answer from OG.

Perhaps the whole Pirat ponzi thing should be posted in a new topic, since it is unrelated to this one?

[TECSHARE]

You have established he was involved, so where a lot of high profile people on this forum. The baseless speculation part is where you assume he had knowledge of any criminal activity as you pass judgement after the fact captain hindsight.

Calling OgNasty an utter moron who doesn't know what 7% weekly means? You should be ashamed of yourself.

No I am calling you a moron because 7% weekly is in no way an unrealistic return, especially in those days. You pretend like cryptocurrency acts like a classic rational market. All you are doing is looking back with perfect hindsight and exposing your ignorance of the actual market activity of the time.

That is one hell of a job for TMAN to find court docs about OGnasty. Its almost like he has a vendetta against him or something

KY do you ever actually spend more than 20 seconds before posting? I didn't  find shit - I quoted twitchy.

FFS son, please leave the adults alone

Kind of an interesting read if you don't mind transcripts: https://www.gwern.net/docs/bitcoin/pirateat40/secvs.pirateat401.pdf

I should prob stop derailing this thread now

"TL;DR, court documents prove all of my baseless speculation true."

Not baseless speculation, I did my research it's well documented:  here (there's a TLDR; at the bottom of this one if it's too many words for you), here, and here. 

There's also this:

https://i.gyazo.com/e306d4ed3b3f6ef417db8f44d99e06b7.png

You have established he was involved, so where a lot of high profile people on this forum. The baseless speculation part is where you assume he had knowledge of any criminal activity as you pass judgement after the fact captain hindsight.

Dude come on I never said that.  I'm accusing him of lying and being deceptive about what happened after the fact to improve his reputation. I explicitly said I wasn't accusing him of scamming. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2834153.msg31580963#msg31580963

Please just do you own research so I don't have to keep spelling things out for you.

Please spare me. This is all about impugning OGNasty's character in any way you can manage. Same me the moderate an unbias act. It is easy to look back in retrospect and pretend you would have done everything perfectly. This is a disgusting unending endeavor to drag OG's reputation through the mud. Until any so called victims come forward all this is, is you LARPing as digital Stasi officers. Your motives are transparent.

[Hhampuz]

d-d-d-derailed.

[suchmoon]

No I am calling you a moron because 7% weekly is in no way an unrealistic return, especially in those days. You pretend like cryptocurrency acts like a classic rational market. All you are doing is looking back with perfect hindsight and exposing your ignorance of the actual market activity of the time.

Cryptocurrency ponzis act exactly the same as any other ponzi. In less than two years he would have compounded more than the total number of bitcoins in existence. But math is for morons, right?

[TECSHARE]

No I am calling you a moron because 7% weekly is in no way an unrealistic return, especially in those days. You pretend like cryptocurrency acts like a classic rational market. All you are doing is looking back with perfect hindsight and exposing your ignorance of the actual market activity of the time.

Cryptocurrency ponzis act exactly the same as any other ponzi. In less than two years he would have compounded more than the total number of bitcoins in existence. But math is for morons, right?

And if you only breathed in your lungs would explode from the pressure. Nice non-sequitur.

[TwitchySeal]

No I am calling you a moron because 7% weekly is in no way an unrealistic return, especially in those days.

If my math is right, 7% a week == ~3,300% APY and you would more than 100x your investment in 2 years.

If I'm wrong, I'm pretty sure I'm low.

7% weekly is nuts though.  Because math.

We really need a new thread for this.  Or maybe if TECSHARE asks nicely TMAN will unlock the Ponzi Fans thread.

[eddie13]

Question...

Were ponzis, or advertising for ponzis, even red trusted, or "scammer tagged" back then?
How "Wild West" was the era of the time?

[Vod]

So, OG fooled everyone who left him positive trust for returning the coins?

I could ask him to take care of my priceless comic collection.  He would return them to me opened and less valuable than when I gave it to him.   Then he would inform everyone I was happy with his escrow.  

[suchmoon]

Question...

Were ponzis, or advertising for ponzis, even red trusted, or "scammer tagged" back then?
How "Wild West" was the era of the time?

The point is not so much Og's cognitive abilities or promoting a scam (if we settle on him being a moron) but that after the ponzi collapsed, i.e. even morons became aware of it being a scam, he kept the presumably illegal/criminal gains instead of returning to scammed users. At least that's how understand Twitchy's presented material. It was before my time so yeah maybe it was cool to scam back then. It certainly wasn't by 2014 when I joined.

[TwitchySeal]

This thread would be more appropriate to continue discussing OG history with ponzi schemes.

[TECSHARE]

No I am calling you a moron because 7% weekly is in no way an unrealistic return, especially in those days.

If my math is right, 7% a week == ~3,300% APY and you would more than 100x your investment in 2 years.

If I'm wrong, I'm pretty sure I'm low.

7% weekly is nuts though.  Because math.

We really need a new thread for this.  Or maybe if TECSHARE asks nicely TMAN will unlock the Ponzi Fans thread.

Who said anything about it lasing for 2 years? Convenient you just get to arbitrarily define a time frame again totally in hindsight to cast the situation in as totally as a negative light as possible and just hide behind "math" as if I disagree with you I am arguing against science. This is pathetic levels of slander and logical fallacy.

Question...

Were ponzis, or advertising for ponzis, even red trusted, or "scammer tagged" back then?
How "Wild West" was the era of the time?

Exactly, none of these turds were there. People then and some now still consider all of cryptocurrency a ponzi. It is really easy to call all the shots when they are already passed.

[philipma1957]

First: I've been wondering about this for a while now, and although I don't want to point fingers, I do like transparency so here it goes: What happened to the "dividend" from airdrops based on Bitcoin holdings?

http://transition.obyte.org/ shows that treasurer address 1Eog8UqRFLufC71rBLt2nYgfUDskgxAyVF joined the Byteball airdrop with 500.00051 BTC (0.0771% share):

Code:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
OOUIJTHWY5PANA7P2YUJX67VVN2QZYIX
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1Eog8UqRFLufC71rBLt2nYgfUDskgxAyVF
HMdUJW2FnsyZVJAoXhuLuYvt2Zqgdpt5o9xGCqIQqnMVOIyrzkY2ICiwGbAfeCXOiS6SDj/UvRRr+CvIo+zTQJQ=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Verified!

https://explorer.obyte.org/#OOUIJTHWY5PANA7P2YUJX67VVN2QZYIX shows the GBYTE (now called OBYTE) received on address OOUIJTHWY5PANA7P2YUJX67VVN2QZYIX: on 09.07.2017 13:58:44, approximately 36.174 GBYTE was received. Out of this, 0.0625*500 = 31.25 GBYTE was thanks to forum funds. At the time, this was worth approximately 7 BTC.

There were later airdrops too, and Stellar Lumens could have produced a similar amount based on Bitcoin holdings, but I don't think that data is publicly available.

quoted for reference.

[Vod]

Are the remaining minor fork coins still held in escrow for the forum by OGNasty?

No, after the major coins were transferred to me, ownership of any remaining forkcoins went to OgNasty.

Theymos, why did you do this after OGNasty launched a ponzi and lost everything?  Why do you still pay him after he has stolen so much?