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November 21, 2019, 05:11:39 PM
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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good, i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin, well here we go, bad coins can have huuuge volume, you must have heard of bomb token? bomb token has good trading volume but guess what? it has no real use case, the volume comes from HYPE because its a deflationary tokens, people believed that the more a max supply of a token get decreased or burned off over time means they are GOLD tokens, it does bring profits to early adopters like they say but NO REAL USE CASES.
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November 21, 2019, 05:21:44 PM
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but a good volume can describe the condition of coins in the market, it must be examined again to find out more. If you do research on all tokens that have low volumes and large volumes it will take a lot of time, unless you have a lot of time you can do it. the most important thing before assessing coins is you have to research many aspects they have

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November 21, 2019, 05:37:40 PM
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About the use case, many traders here don't really care much about real use case of a token or a coin. Those who say volume is an indicator that a project is legit probably haven't read the project's whitepaper. That may sound rude or harsh but let us all be honest here.


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November 21, 2019, 05:57:09 PM
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There is a market maker for hire who has the sole purpose of making your token active in terms of daily trading and sometimes this creates hype for the project to attract investors or traders. In addition, trading volume can be fake so never ever rely the worth of a project just because it has a good trading volume.

 
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November 21, 2019, 06:00:04 PM
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The volume can be pumped and also you can use bots to create the appearance of trading. Each coin is twisted as it may, this should be checked thoroughly for every project.
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November 21, 2019, 07:25:59 PM
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Bad projects can have fake volumes as well, i think its better to do research very well before investing in any projects, make sure they have what it takes to be useful for the people, good useful coins will never die easily
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November 21, 2019, 07:29:58 PM
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Large volumes of coin tokens can be manipulated easily. I once traded coins that were rarely in demand but the volume of coins was high. High volume was indeed manipulated using bots. I can't sell coins properly. A healthy coin volume is when many trade without using bots.

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November 21, 2019, 07:36:11 PM
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Though you are right but I can't agree with your example. BOMB is enough good token, though it has no real use case, then tell me how many coins have real use cases? BOMB is still a kid token in this large crypto community, they are here only for 4-5months, then how can you imagine it would have real use case within this short time?? if you follow the BOMB token telegram, you will know they are such a talented guy live there! I have no BOMB token, never bought it, but I know this is not a bad token.

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November 21, 2019, 07:43:58 PM
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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good, i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin, well here we go, bad coins can have huuuge volume, you must have heard of bomb token? bomb token has good trading volume but guess what? it has no real use case, the volume comes from HYPE because its a deflationary tokens, people believed that the more a max supply of a token get decreased or burned off over time means they are GOLD tokens, it does bring profits to early adopters like they say but NO REAL USE CASES.

I think you are twisting the point here, which one do you want to be holding, a token with decent trading volume or the ones with low or no trading volume. The poin tis that most scam projects do not have volume for you to get in and out of them, that is why this is very important, you need to be able to move your money around the way you want


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November 21, 2019, 07:45:12 PM
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I have started picking only tokens with real use cases just because fake hype based projects without any real use cases do not tend to last long, also the real projects with meaningful platform and services may fail to attract customers but in that case you will not regret that you made a bad investment. Afterall luck matters a lot too.

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November 21, 2019, 07:48:44 PM
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The pump and dump schemes, and manipulation of trading are false and fake factors showing wrong details to the traders sometimes, but the good thing is that these manipulations are always temporary and you can't control the volume of trading forever.
So, it is better to study the project itself first before studying its trading volume.
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November 21, 2019, 07:49:26 PM
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The demand for token use case came after the dump, it is discovered to be important for altcoins especially. Sustainable Volume will always be significant for token that wants to thrive in this space but exchange where it is traded will also be as important. projects with no used case will naturally die in this market when projects with use case generate volume that drive its price.

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November 21, 2019, 08:04:09 PM
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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good, i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin, well here we go, bad coins can have huuuge volume, you must have heard of bomb token? bomb token has good trading volume but guess what? it has no real use case, the volume comes from HYPE because its a deflationary tokens, people believed that the more a max supply of a token get decreased or burned off over time means they are GOLD tokens, it does bring profits to early adopters like they say but NO REAL USE CASES.
Volume is an indication of demand. On the market there are thousands of coins similar to what you say, but not all like BOMB. Good coins generally have a higher volume. Being good increases the demand, which means higher volume. Sometimes there are opposite situations, but there is a reason for these: for example, not being recognized by the majority.
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November 21, 2019, 08:14:08 PM
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i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin
That *is* true.  There are shit coins on crap exchanges with zero or very low trading volume, and it is a good indicator that it isn't a good investment.  A coin or token with low volume basically means that you'll have a hard time selling it because there's not really a market for it.

As regards high volume, I'd be careful about the numbers you see, since there is talk that trading volume on certain exchanges can be and is faked.  I'm not sure how you can tell the difference, but everyone should be avoiding crap coins and tokens anyhow.

I have started picking only tokens with real use cases
Yeah?  I'd like to hear of *one*.  I have yet to see a token that's used for a real life problem.
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November 21, 2019, 08:25:05 PM
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this is just another opportunity to catch new investors into their scam projects. they talk about burning tokens, etc. but in fact they do nothing except continue to raise money. in the end, such projects usually just disappear with all the money and with their stories about the bright future thanks to their tokenomics






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November 21, 2019, 08:47:33 PM
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That explanation is on point. I used to say that if the coin doesn't have volume avoid it but I've never say that coins that have good volume are all good. I think the basis that I've said that because of the comparison with the old coins that has no more good volumes.

people believed that the more a max supply of a token get decreased or burned off over time means they are GOLD tokens
What investors believe is that whenever there's an event of burning, it will make the prices up and that's why there will be a fomo on that side. But be very careful because it wouldn't hold long.

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November 21, 2019, 09:36:08 PM
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Even the weighted volume and/or 'adjusted volume' you see on a lot of sites like Coinmarketcap or Coingecko isn't always correct, and there's really no way to know the true volume of any exchange nowadays because of all the different ways exchanges boost their volume. Some sites like Coingecko also provide an easy way to look at market depth to weed out some exchanges that obviously fake volume, but I suspect some exchanges also make their books look legit too.
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November 21, 2019, 10:03:10 PM
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Trader no matter the problem like this. They see if many volumes make it easy for them to trade and take profit, not that the tokens or coins are good.
If the token or a good coin has no volume of traders will worry about choosing them because it will be difficult to get the price movement if the volume is quiet.

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November 21, 2019, 10:25:49 PM
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Trader no matter the problem like this. They see if many volumes make it easy for them to trade and take profit, not that the tokens or coins are good.
That's the main reason why traders want good enough volume for a token/coin. Making profit will be more easy because trade takes place in a short time, so it doesn't need long time to get a profit, then they can rotate it again and again.

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I don't think so, Only good propjects has good a trading volume now which is listed on good exchanges that built trust to the community. Suspicious and bad projects dont even have a decent volume, often they are listed on sh*t exchange and generate a fake volume.
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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good, i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin, well here we go, bad coins can have huuuge volume, you must have heard of bomb token? bomb token has good trading volume but guess what? it has no real use case, the volume comes from HYPE because its a deflationary tokens, people believed that the more a max supply of a token get decreased or burned off over time means they are GOLD tokens, it does bring profits to early adopters like they say but NO REAL USE CASES.
Maybe with higher volume transaction can give us safety with coin not scam where have many buy and sell order, how come found coins less buy order when some one sell with higher amount will make price down, I agree when higher volume transaction not give guarantee altcoin become profitable and higher price because there are many altcoin kind on Binance exchange keep lower price although have thousand billion volume transaction.

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Yes, I totally agree. People are starting to think that volume determines whether or not a scam is because they want to find profits quickly. And when he doesn't see it on a project, they say it's a scam. Everything is money talking now. If this happens, then the PnD coin is also determined as a good coin, although only temporarily. Even though it was the developer update that really determined the project was a scam or not.



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Project like bitconnect which was a obvious Ponzi scheme projects had massive trading volume and at some point in 2017 was among the top 10-15 highest trading coin on coinmarketcap in regarda to market capitalization. After from this scenario, trading volume on Coinmarketcap can't be rely on, as it can be easily manipulate by the exchanges most especially the small ones.

Judging the credibility or legitimacy of a project should go beyond such projects been privilege to be listed on an exchanges whether small or top exchanges not forgetting this exchanges can list any tokens without considering the welfare if their customers, providing the listing fees are been met by this projects.

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It is good for traders and those who are making money out of them. Some traders do not care at all about whether the token is fundamentally good or bad. If they can see an opportunity to make money out of these kinds of coins, they will trade it. But to those who are buying for the sake of long term investment, these kinds of coins are really bad. They should not be bought for such investments as the risks are too high.

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November 22, 2019, 03:25:30 AM
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I'd still prefer those coins with good daily volumes though. I mean if they are attracting investors to trade their coin, then that would say they are still healthy and kicking. Most of the coins/tokens doesn't have any real use case anyway, they are just their to make hype and profit.

It's just a matter of where they are listed. Good coins are listed in good exchanges like Binance or Kucoin while bad coins are listed in unknown exchanges.
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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good, i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin, well here we go, bad coins can have huuuge volume, you must have heard of bomb token? bomb token has good trading volume but guess what? it has no real use case, the volume comes from HYPE because its a deflationary tokens, people believed that the more a max supply of a token get decreased or burned off over time means they are GOLD tokens, it does bring profits to early adopters like they say but NO REAL USE CASES.

Use case is important if a coin is traded with a good volume without it, then it's just purely hype and manipulation in the market. Dont get shocked with it, cause everyday many tokens has pump and different coins. Market is also being played by huge traders who have deep pocket. So If I were you, stay on a platform or token that has a good performance based on use case not on trading.



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Yes, tokens that have good trading volumes are sometimes bad or not that promising when it comes to their product or technology. It's like an exchange with high volume, it doesn't mean it is good or reliable enough. Take a look at Yobit. Full of shitcoins yet volume is still there, including its shitcoins. Good marketing creates hype and in hype there's money. Even in our daily life. Popular products with most sales are not guarantees for quality.   

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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good, i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin, well here we go, bad coins can have huuuge volume, you must have heard of bomb token? bomb token has good trading volume but guess what? it has no real use case, the volume comes from HYPE because its a deflationary tokens, people believed that the more a max supply of a token get decreased or burned off over time means they are GOLD tokens, it does bring profits to early adopters like they say but NO REAL USE CASES.

It depends.

Greater liquidity generally is directly correlated to a better project, because projects that have a low liquidity on exchanges usually aren't very highly demanded to begin with. All of the major projects which have real development will have significant volume traded.

The only big coin that I can think of that goes against this trend would be IOTA, which has less volume because its difficult infrustructure that means that it's listed on less exchanges. But every other coin, you should definitely look at volume and liquidity, because that directly affects the viability of your investment.
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Yes, tokens that have good trading volumes are sometimes bad or not that promising when it comes to their product or technology. It's like an exchange with high volume, it doesn't mean it is good or reliable enough. Take a look at Yobit. Full of shitcoins yet volume is still there, including its shitcoins. Good marketing creates hype and in hype there's money. Even in our daily life. Popular products with most sales are not guarantees for quality.   
does that mean you agree that trading volume determines good or not?
It doesn't matter whether the project is good or not, the coins include shitcoin or not, as long as the HYPE is strong and the trading volume is high then it can be an investment choice.
if it's like that, then the project won't last long in my opinion, because the ecosystem isn't formed properly.
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Your opinion is not wrong but it is not entirely true, in fact most tokens that have a lot of volume because they have a useful use case and from there they can maintain good demands. Indeed in some cases there are some projects that have good volumes because only hype, but it won't last long. While a really good project is one that can maintain its volume well as long as the project is alive, that is the difference between them. And we also need to pay attention that some of them also use bots to increase the volume. It all seems like a lot of manipulation to achieve their goals, really ironic.
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this is absolutely true. a lot of stock market is trying to gather customers by making fake volume. they can easily pump a token and sell it to people.
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I'd still prefer those coins with good daily volumes though. I mean if they are attracting investors to trade their coin, then that would say they are still healthy and kicking.
It is not the best thing to do, there was a coin that was trending at the beginning of last year, and the buzz was so much, there was so much investors, prospects, their telegram handle was booming as people spoke of how the coin will get to the moon and how they'll get their lambo, the trading volume was so high and I had to join in and I bought quite a lot.

I still regret that till today, slowly the whole buzz was dying down, we then realized they actually didn't have any use case, it was all just a plan to attract investors, and the volume was actually fake. Soon they stopped conversations on the group, you could only read their fake updates, according to them they changed ceo and we never got to hear from the new one. That was the end of that coin with all their trading volume, it can mislead investors.

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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good, i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin, well here we go, bad coins can have huuuge volume, you must have heard of bomb token? bomb token has good trading volume but guess what? it has no real use case, the volume comes from HYPE because its a deflationary tokens, people believed that the more a max supply of a token get decreased or burned off over time means they are GOLD tokens, it does bring profits to early adopters like they say but NO REAL USE CASES.
For an investor anything that brings profits to them are good even if they have no real use case, but investors need to beware while holding these tokens since the price may fall at any time because of its no usage to the world.

Some tokens and coins also faking their volumes with bot trading to themselves this is another reason why we don't have to judge a token based on the trading volume alone.

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Deflation in my opinion is not a good idea, the concept of burning tokens so that the supply is smaller or limited, Does not mean that the rarity or the like of gold, need to remember tokens / coins can be broken down to be as small as possible (0.0000001) so the token supply is considered to be only 100k supply, it is sufficient . The main problem is whether to have pergerkan or real use, to carry out deflation. if it's not balanced it's useless, like this scheme ((dump - (deflation = pump) - dump Tongue )).

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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good,
You are correct unless it can stand the test of time.

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i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin
A zero trading volume could mean people are not interested in the token/project but not necessarily mean a bad coin.

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well here we go, bad coins can have huge volume
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Certainly, especially those big time scammers that manipulate market with bots thereby generating fake volume.

A good token are those that have real life usage and maintain a steady volume not necessary a huge  one, they are to be consisted in the services they provide, people shall notice them as time goes by.
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this is absolutely true. a lot of stock market is trying to gather customers by making fake volume. they can easily pump a token and sell it to people.
Possible for making this fake volume are those on the unknown exchange which controls by whales to generate a huge pump to create a massive sells and dump at a given time when the price are high so be careful when you invested this kind of token.
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I often get coins that have large volumes but are very difficult to sell. all are controlled by bots buy and sell orders are filled with bots that manipulate the volume.
The coins are only listed in one exchange, so there is no other choice to sell coins like that, except selling on buy orders and will be executed by the bot.
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I have some few deflationary tokens in my wallet, they have good price but on exchange the volume is pretty bad, and i said to myself, of course they have no real use than burning, why would people want to buy them?
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I often get coins that have large volumes but are very difficult to sell. all are controlled by bots buy and sell orders are filled with bots that manipulate the volume.
The coins are only listed in one exchange, so there is no other choice to sell coins like that, except selling on buy orders and will be executed by the bot.

There are a lot of manipulators around the market so we couldn't know which is good to buy if you are investor. to us bounty hunters it is so difficult to earn with this kind of projects we can not sure that they will going to release what were working for how many months. so we need to search a good project that does not aim for manipulating.

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Its easier to create fake volume for any coin or token which is why i think its better to rate coins, tokens and exchanges with liquidity instead of volume, you can't fake liquidity and it all comes down to the exchanges they are listed on

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This days people care more about deflationary tokens like bomb or dynamite token because to be frank people only care about money making, these deflation tokens pays real quick and many are happy investing in them

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Especially on todays exchanges. The numbers are just terrible, almost every single exchange is doing wash trading and the number of real trades is scary low. Furthermore, without further development a token is worth nothing.
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Especially on todays exchanges. The numbers are just terrible, almost every single exchange is doing wash trading and the number of real trades is scary low. Furthermore, without further development a token is worth nothing.

Yes but now everyone need money by hook or crook and most of the project spend only on exchange listing to list it in a high volume exchange so that the tokens can be sold and to get more buyers but they don't bother about further development of the project as a result most of the tokens are sold at good price but fails miserably after sometime due to lack of development.

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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good, i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin, well here we go, bad coins can have huuuge volume, you must have heard of bomb token? bomb token has good trading volume but guess what? it has no real use case, the volume comes from HYPE because its a deflationary tokens, people believed that the more a max supply of a token get decreased or burned off over time means they are GOLD tokens, it does bring profits to early adopters like they say but NO REAL USE CASES.

This can be seen from different perspectives, on one hand, good trading volume shows how solid a project is; let me ask, if a coin doesn't have a good trading volume will you buy??? And also it sends the wrong signal to traders or investors irrespective of whether the coin is good or bad. Moreover, what stops a good coin from having a good volume? As for me, I can't liken a coin with bad volume as being good.
On the other hand, we know hype is the order of the day in this space, thus there are every chances a bad coin will have a good volume but will it last long term? So let's look at all these from different perspectives.

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I often get coins that have large volumes but are very difficult to sell. all are controlled by bots buy and sell orders are filled with bots that manipulate the volume.
The coins are only listed in one exchange, so there is no other choice to sell coins like that, except selling on buy orders and will be executed by the bot.
If the coin is manipulated or using bots in certain market that can't be considered a high volumes coin though. only the genuine ones could be considered as one of that. I honestly pissed off with the existence of that bots aswell. It's like they are trying to give us false information and make us screwed.
Especially on todays exchanges. The numbers are just terrible, almost every single exchange is doing wash trading and the number of real trades is scary low. Furthermore, without further development a token is worth nothing.
Only unreliable exchange I assume, the popular ones rarely does this but doesn't guarantee that they are not doing this anytime soon. only time will let us know.

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November 22, 2019, 10:00:16 AM
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I don't think so, Only good propjects has good a trading volume now which is listed on good exchanges that built trust to the community. Suspicious and bad projects dont even have a decent volume, often they are listed on sh*t exchange and generate a fake volume.

Haven't you seen shitcoins with huge volumes as a result of artificial pumps from the owners? the thing is, this happens to both coins with use case and coins without, the only difference is the holder of this coin, if you are a trader i don't think you will mind much about the utility of that coin provided the volume is high enough to trade,

but if you intend to hold for mid-long term basis, then it is better to reconsider your position to hodl or not, from the look of things, i would rather go for a coin with a real utility than just high volume, with time the utility will increase the demand which will also reflect in volume and price.

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November 22, 2019, 10:03:35 AM
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Most cases people don't really care about real use case, as long as they could take the profit from the altcoins, that's what matters for them.
Let's not forget about market manipulation, you'll see bots everywhere and fake volumes here and there. More volumes means more traders doing some trading there, but what we have all fake orders and all. And Indeed, HYPE could make the volume rose quite high.
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November 22, 2019, 10:04:03 AM
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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good, i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin, well here we go, bad coins can have huuuge volume, you must have heard of bomb token? bomb token has good trading volume but guess what? it has no real use case, the volume comes from HYPE because its a deflationary tokens, people believed that the more a max supply of a token get decreased or burned off over time means they are GOLD tokens, it does bring profits to early adopters like they say but NO REAL USE CASES.
In the cryptocurrency industry, after the coin or token, was listed, the volume was the determining factor of its liquidity that's why most projects are running trading competition to uplift the current volume in totality most traders usually don't just see or considers a good projects base on whitepaper use case etc. since they are just temporarily holders of those tokens. and that's true, there are two opposite opinion regarding that matter. with the opinion on traders versus the opinion of long term holders.  
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As usual, the trading volume is good, there is a fair number of transactions between buyers and sellers, which makes people feel more secure whether it is a good coin or not but the trading volume is very important. weight, but the coin has no trading volume, it can be removed at any time.

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Most cases people don't really care about real use case, as long as they could take the profit from the altcoins, that's what matters for them.
Let's not forget about market manipulation, you'll bots everywhere and fake volumes here and there. More volumes means more traders doing some trading there, but what we have all fake orders and all. And Indeed, HYPE could make the volume rose quite high.
the most important thing for people is profit, but there are also those who are concerned with a real platform, usually a real platform can make projects have a long life in the market all about choices and it's a good idea to choose a project with a real platform

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November 22, 2019, 10:13:07 AM
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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good, i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin, well here we go, bad coins can have huuuge volume, you must have heard of bomb token? bomb token has good trading volume but guess what? it has no real use case, the volume comes from HYPE because its a deflationary tokens, people believed that the more a max supply of a token get decreased or burned off over time means they are GOLD tokens, it does bring profits to early adopters like they say but NO REAL USE CASES.
In the cryptocurrency industry, after the coin or token, was listed, the volume was the determining factor of its liquidity that's why most projects are running trading competition to uplift the current volume in totality most traders usually don't just see or considers a good projects base on whitepaper use case etc. since they are just temporarily holders of those tokens. and that's true, there are two opposite opinion regarding that matter. with the opinion on traders versus the opinion of long term holders.  

But in the longest term, it is the project itself that will determine the success of the coin and not the volume. The project is the one and only basis of the coin's success, its product to be exact. The volume may live up to what the traders are asking, mainly liquidity. That is enough for the coin to be doing good in the exchanges. But if the project will stagnate, it will turn into a pump and dump coin with no real investors' demand. Once the coin is on this phase, it will soon perish.

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Yes some exchange exchange most of the exchanges use boots to increase the volume so I prefer a piece with a real low volume
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I think that such unreal volumes are present on coins that are listed on less popular exchanges and the creators of exchanges themselves twist these volumes with bots so that at least someone would pay attention to their exchange and start using it. And also it is sometimes used to ensure that stupid users of the exchange buy this coin and then cannot sell it since the bot never buys on someone else's order and you will be left with a coin that in fact costs nothing, so beware of this.

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Well especially when we have exchange like Bitforex/Bitmart

I am sorry to say but most of the volume trade are heavily washed
Volume washing can be good on flat, bad on back

Even exchange like Kucoin does wash their volume so it look like they have tons of volume :/
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I agree with this. Nowadays, people tend to get attracted to the altcoins or cryptocurrencies that have a huge trading volume because for them, they think that it is a sign of a growing cryptocurrency and they should jump in before it is too late but they didn't know that most of the time, it is caused by a hype and it is not a healthy practice to invest into a project that is just about the hype.

 
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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good, i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin, well here we go, bad coins can have huuuge volume, you must have heard of bomb token? bomb token has good trading volume but guess what? it has no real use case, the volume comes from HYPE because its a deflationary tokens, people believed that the more a max supply of a token get decreased or burned off over time means they are GOLD tokens, it does bring profits to early adopters like they say but NO REAL USE CASES.

Well actually you are right, but you and I know that if a coin doesn't have any good volume we won't buy, and it doesn't end there, the exchange in question might delist it. Thus from all conditions be it a bad or good project or token let it have a good trading volume as that will show the members or potential buyers that the project is at least existing. This is just the reality of things.

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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good, i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin, well here we go, bad coins can have huuuge volume, you must have heard of bomb token? bomb token has good trading volume but guess what? it has no real use case, the volume comes from HYPE because its a deflationary tokens, people believed that the more a max supply of a token get decreased or burned off over time means they are GOLD tokens, it does bring profits to early adopters like they say but NO REAL USE CASES.

Do you mean this bomb ?

I read a few things about bombs and they are indeed coin based social experiments that focus on deflation. Provides 1 million tokens, and burns every 1% per transaction.
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Holders do not consider anything important other than joining as active activists, I think their concept is no different from doge at first, even though vision and usability do not have real use cases.

I trade several coins according to the vision of each coin, so that they can be determined to be effective for the short / long term, not always about good trading volume, traders only need to trade coins that are only profitable.

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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good, i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin, well here we go, bad coins can have huuuge volume, you must have heard of bomb token? bomb token has good trading volume but guess what? it has no real use case, the volume comes from HYPE because its a deflationary tokens, people believed that the more a max supply of a token get decreased or burned off over time means they are GOLD tokens, it does bring profits to early adopters like they say but NO REAL USE CASES.

I agree with you, most of these projects have nothing nor user case yet they have good volume when compared with most coins, it all points to hype. But on the other hand, I also find it disappointing for projects which are classified as good ones not to have good trading volume; this will only leave a negative effect on the project because users will develop cold feet towards it and before long the project will cease to exist.

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I just think that a good volume means there are many traders there who buy and sell as long as the volume is not fake like in other exchanges, I only believe in exchanges that are trusted and popular but if there are good volume tokens on the exchange that are often fake volumes. I'm not sure that coin is good.

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November 22, 2019, 12:10:02 PM
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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good, i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin, well here we go, bad coins can have huuuge volume, you must have heard of bomb token? bomb token has good trading volume but guess what? it has no real use case, the volume comes from HYPE because its a deflationary tokens, people believed that the more a max supply of a token get decreased or burned off over time means they are GOLD tokens, it does bring profits to early adopters like they say but NO REAL USE CASES.
It depends on the token itself the volume could easily be fake in the market buying or selling the smallest amount available in the market at a very high market price could easily increase the market value of the token.
Also a lot of dead tokens are in the market I suggest just to buy a popular altcoins in the market just like XRP with a low price in the market you could easily buy a high volume of this token and invest it in a long term investment in my opinion it could easily make a good profit considering the high volume of investment you buy.

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November 22, 2019, 01:26:37 PM
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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good, i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin, well here we go, bad coins can have huuuge volume, you must have heard of bomb token? bomb token has good trading volume but guess what? it has no real use case, the volume comes from HYPE because its a deflationary tokens, people believed that the more a max supply of a token get decreased or burned off over time means they are GOLD tokens, it does bring profits to early adopters like they say but NO REAL USE CASES.

In this space, there are traders and investors, there are those who indulge in both and vice versa. Now for daily traders what matters to them is good volume, some hardly care if it's good project or not but with good volume they can trade. So in my own opinion, good volume matters a whole lot, even the investors won't be happy investing in a coin with low volume; the reality is, most sees a coin with low volume as a bad one and that's it..  Volume matters too as it adds more credibility to the project.

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My friend is engaged in trading such hype shitcoins and he is doing great. From the point of view of the development of crypto, these coins are an empty place. However, with the right approach, you can earn on such coins.

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November 22, 2019, 02:45:04 PM
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Well it would just mean that it is being traded but it doesn't guarantee how profitable it is. It is being actively traded but it doesn't mean that it is living up to its price. It could be a shitcoin or it is in fact a shitcoin in the end. There could be a fresh new coin in the market that would surely be a just 1 digit of percentage in trading volume but it could grow further when more investors saw the project it came from and I am pretty sure that it is a better coin than what you see that has massive trading volume.
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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good, i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin, well here we go, bad coins can have huuuge volume, you must have heard of bomb token? bomb token has good trading volume but guess what? it has no real use case, the volume comes from HYPE because its a deflationary tokens, people believed that the more a max supply of a token get decreased or burned off over time means they are GOLD tokens, it does bring profits to early adopters like they say but NO REAL USE CASES.
all crypto currencies still don't exist for real use !, in my opinion only Bitcoin,
Altcoin is still awaiting mass adoption, and if mass adoption and real use are done I'm sure crypto currencies will really be used worldwide,
this is just waiting just time for everyone in the world to realize that crypto currency is very useful
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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good, i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin, well here we go, bad coins can have huuuge volume, you must have heard of bomb token? bomb token has good trading volume but guess what? it has no real use case, the volume comes from HYPE because its a deflationary tokens, people believed that the more a max supply of a token get decreased or burned off over time means they are GOLD tokens, it does bring profits to early adopters like they say but NO REAL USE CASES.
Volume trading really can't make we decide the coin is good or bad even trading volume can't be used as a good exchange reference or not. Because it can be faked and especially for altcoin, their whales can be easier to manipulate either volume or price in market. Maybe good altcoin for me, beside have use case, their developer keep update abput the project and make good communication with investors.

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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good, i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin, well here we go, bad coins can have huuuge volume, you must have heard of bomb token? bomb token has good trading volume but guess what? it has no real use case, the volume comes from HYPE because its a deflationary tokens, people believed that the more a max supply of a token get decreased or burned off over time means they are GOLD tokens, it does bring profits to early adopters like they say but NO REAL USE CASES.

I'm agree with no volume means the token is bad, because no one wanted the token that means people are not seeing any potential with the tokens and the token project management are not doing anything with the zero volume that. So i think they're not going to make the project develop and exit scam
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November 22, 2019, 07:57:41 PM
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This topic might be applicable for the the many worst IEO tokens which is been listed in the top exchanges and after the token Selva he was seeing drastic price fall for the token.
So we need to be more careful while choosing the tokens bye searching about them and learn there project background and team information. If all things good you can go for investment.

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I would say that much more than just trading volume matters, but of course, this is a pretty independent index. And talking about you, are there many great and advanced solutions with practical value you are aware of these days?
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I would say that much more than just trading volume matters, but of course, this is a pretty independent index. And talking about you, are there many great and advanced solutions with practical value you are aware of these days?

Good evening there. I cannot say that there are many, but of course, there are advanced ones. For example, one of the most promising latest discoveries - GUTS tickets. Have you heard of such a platform? Cause the one is definitely in demand these days
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Good evening there. I cannot say that there are many, but of course, there are advanced ones. For example, one of the most promising latest discoveries - GUTS tickets. Have you heard of such a platform? Cause the one is definitely in demand these days

GUTS? Sounds familiar, but I cannot remember for sure. What exactly is the main idea? Or where can I have a closer look at what the team is building?
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GUTS? Sounds familiar, but I cannot remember for sure. What exactly is the main idea? Or where can I have a closer look at what the team is building?

As you know, everyday many fans enjoy concerts, festivals, theatre plays and sports matches. Popular events sell out fast. This is often unnecessary, since ticket touts make fast money by reselling secondary tickets. That's bad for venues, theatres, artists and of course for your fans. And GUTS assures that buying tickets for a fair price is simple, transparent and secure. And this is exactly what they are offering with a solution
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As you know, everyday many fans enjoy concerts, festivals, theatre plays and sports matches. Popular events sell out fast. This is often unnecessary, since ticket touts make fast money by reselling secondary tickets. That's bad for venues, theatres, artists and of course for your fans. And GUTS assures that buying tickets for a fair price is simple, transparent and secure. And this is exactly what they are offering with a solution

Sounds interesting, haven't heard of any similar solutions that are innovative in the same time. Thanks, will have a closer look on my own as well
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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good, i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin, well here we go, bad coins can have huuuge volume, you must have heard of bomb token? bomb token has good trading volume but guess what? it has no real use case, the volume comes from HYPE because its a deflationary tokens, people believed that the more a max supply of a token get decreased or burned off over time means they are GOLD tokens, it does bring profits to early adopters like they say but NO REAL USE CASES.
It's true that trading volume is not the only yardstick to determine if a coin is good or not, but in most cases coins with very poor trading volume or negligible trading volume are most times not cool. You gave a very good example with BOMB token to buttress your point anyway, however trading volume reflects people's interest in a particular coin.
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November 23, 2019, 08:27:12 AM
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Volume doesn't equal to token being good but it equals to token being liked by the public IF the volume is organic. I have seen so many coins that were basically done and horrible and I would call them dead but they had insane volume, why? Because, the owner was making volume all by himself to make it look like it is alive. Dude has millions of dollars in his pocket from this plus millions of the token as well, so when he does one year of 200 btc per day volume on his coin he only loses half of his value.

If the idea works he could sell his coins to replenish his volume, if it doesn't he will keep the other half and just be done with it. I have literally faced with creators of tokens that said "I got the money but there is nothing I can do, I created the coin, now it is in your hands" and left, why the hell did people paid him? We have no idea.

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November 23, 2019, 09:13:44 AM
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yes, not all who have high trading volumes do not all look good and there are not many adoptions of real use, but every project has their road map time to develop their tokens, but high trading volumes also need to increase support for the project, if not how the project will develop properly there is certainly no funding for development

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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good, i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin, well here we go, bad coins can have huuuge volume, you must have heard of bomb token? bomb token has good trading volume but guess what? it has no real use case, the volume comes from HYPE because its a deflationary tokens, people believed that the more a max supply of a token get decreased or burned off over time means they are GOLD tokens, it does bring profits to early adopters like they say but NO REAL USE CASES.
Some of the coins have good trading volume was full of whales but not all, first you need to know if this coins has a lot of use cases for a long term or not at least it has. Many of coins are now need to be a good trading volume to say that is "really good" but in the end of the day they need to pretend a good volume coins to hype people. But for me it is all depend on the project/coins if how sure this coins is good.
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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good, i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin, well here we go, bad coins can have huuuge volume, you must have heard of bomb token? bomb token has good trading volume but guess what? it has no real use case, the volume comes from HYPE because its a deflationary tokens, people believed that the more a max supply of a token get decreased or burned off over time means they are GOLD tokens, it does bring profits to early adopters like they say but NO REAL USE CASES.
The bad coin may have volume, but to pump the price for a short time. Never heard about bomb coin. Look at the chart since it was listed, there was a drop in volume up to 41k until today. Also, the exchanges it is listed are suspicious. Is the 41k volume higher? I think it is exaggerated too much, do not value the whole market because of any shitcoin.
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Yes most of the coins having high volume because of hype created or spreading huge hype news using marketing strategy . This game mostly done by wales they simply create hype around any coin and once they reach their target they will dump . But believing the hype and investing in later stage are real loosers. It was happened with me lots of time
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Yes most of the coins having high volume because of hype created or spreading huge hype news using marketing strategy . This game mostly done by wales they simply create hype around any coin and once they reach their target they will dump . But believing the hype and investing in later stage are real loosers. It was happened with me lots of time
I think not all hype is detrimental, you understand the concept of hype so you can get results in it. the fanatical nature that makes a coin can be hype so it is better to re-examine the method that is done if it is still stuck in hype. people understand that right is hype but they are not able to control themselves in it

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November 23, 2019, 06:16:02 PM
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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good, i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin, well here we go, bad coins can have huuuge volume, you must have heard of bomb token? bomb token has good trading volume but guess what? it has no real use case, the volume comes from HYPE because its a deflationary tokens, people believed that the more a max supply of a token get decreased or burned off over time means they are GOLD tokens, it does bring profits to early adopters like they say but NO REAL USE CASES.
Some of the trading you are seeing in the market are fake, this is not the first time we are getting to know that, it has happened a lot of times. There are some projects that will hire some services to increase the trade volume of their coin and deceive investors into thinking that their coins are active and growing and as time goes on you will come to realize that it was faked. No one should be relying only on trade volume to decide whether a project is a good one or not.

But, if truly a coin has a higher trade volume, that's good most of the time because it means there will be more stability and more liquidity in the market. All these people that pumps and dumps coins mainly targets coins that has low trading volume, because they will bring profit.
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November 23, 2019, 06:45:24 PM
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I noticed that now there are a lot of fake volumes. Recently, I drew attention to the rapid growth of the  EXMR coin. So her painted volumes from a little-known exchange.

Even when volume is real the coin can be crap. Do you remember coins like LSK, GAME, some of the HDD mined coins. They had nice volume in 2017 and 2018 and now are almost worthless with 90% value loss in 2 years.

Often useless coins are overhyped at the early stage and then reality hits and nobody cares about them.
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November 23, 2019, 07:02:29 PM
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You have tangible backings but I also think good volume is part of what makes a token buyable. Am not disputing the fact that there aren't shitcoins with good volume, but am also saying that every team within a project which is aimed to be good to also have a good trading volume because this will make potential investors key in. In the same way, a token without good trading volume risks getting delisted; this is also my reason for good tokens having good trading volume.
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November 23, 2019, 07:20:51 PM
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Tokens are used for speculative purpose as of now so the token has high trading volume will be considered as better token to be honest but if you are buying token for usage purpose then you need to hold them for few more years to know the project will get successful as payment or you will lose totally.
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November 23, 2019, 07:42:36 PM
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You have tangible backings but I also think good volume is part of what makes a token buyable. Am not disputing the fact that there aren't shitcoins with good volume, but am also saying that every team within a project which is aimed to be good to also have a good trading volume because this will make potential investors key in. In the same way, a token without good trading volume risks getting delisted; this is also my reason for good tokens having good trading volume.
Investor mostly check the volumes before taking time to review and research the projects. If they've got good information about the project
surely they will follow and invest to the projects, Traders who understand the market knew what project to use for long and short period and
the first basis mostly of short traders is the volume movements to get the good chance to earn with short period of time.
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November 23, 2019, 09:33:54 PM
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The problem is people have the definition of a 'good project' all wrong. How can a project be good if it does not provide any real value, either as a utility or as a security? I have seen good projects die out because of being unable to list on a good exchange nor 'hire influencers' to help create awareness about the project. A good project always has a use case, else its useless.

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November 23, 2019, 11:54:09 PM
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You have tangible backings but I also think good volume is part of what makes a token buyable. Am not disputing the fact that there aren't shitcoins with good volume, but am also saying that every team within a project which is aimed to be good to also have a good trading volume because this will make potential investors key in. In the same way, a token without good trading volume risks getting delisted; this is also my reason for good tokens having good trading volume.
Investor mostly check the volumes before taking time to review and research the projects. If they've got good information about the project
surely they will follow and invest to the projects, Traders who understand the market knew what project to use for long and short period and
the first basis mostly of short traders is the volume movements to get the good chance to earn with short period of time.

Indeed, the volume can be a basis though it does not necessarily mean that the coin will always be like that or further improve. There are still risks, but at least you can predict much better market movements of the coin if it has high volume and popular in the market in a given time.

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November 24, 2019, 01:09:48 AM
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Let's talk about p2b, is this a scam trading platform? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5203715.msg53155451#msg53155451
About a month ago, P2B always held the leading position on Coinmarket in terms of trading volume. How does the P2B exchange generate virtual trading volumes? I think the Bot has been launched on trading pairs ....
There are too many coins despite the large trading volume, displayed on CMC but there is no liquidity (shitcoin) on it.

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November 24, 2019, 01:41:51 AM
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You have tangible backings but I also think good volume is part of what makes a token buyable. Am not disputing the fact that there aren't shitcoins with good volume, but am also saying that every team within a project which is aimed to be good to also have a good trading volume because this will make potential investors key in. In the same way, a token without good trading volume risks getting delisted; this is also my reason for good tokens having good trading volume.
Investor mostly check the volumes before taking time to review and research the projects. If they've got good information about the project
surely they will follow and invest to the projects, Traders who understand the market knew what project to use for long and short period and
the first basis mostly of short traders is the volume movements to get the good chance to earn with short period of time.

Indeed, the volume can be a basis though it does not necessarily mean that the coin will always be like that or further improve. There are still risks, but at least you can predict much better market movements of the coin if it has high volume and popular in the market in a given time.
But I think with increase higher volume transaction can increase to higher price because many people participated to buy and sell with coin have higher volume transaction coin, many people looking for which one altcoin have much volume coin on market to buy because can help to higher price later and many people sell or buy coin there, if not have volume how to know people look interested whit this coin?
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November 24, 2019, 01:46:43 AM
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Let's talk about p2b, is this a scam trading platform? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5203715.msg53155451#msg53155451
About a month ago, P2B always held the leading position on Coinmarket in terms of trading volume. How does the P2B exchange generate virtual trading volumes? I think the Bot has been launched on trading pairs ....
There are too many coins despite the large trading volume, displayed on CMC but there is no liquidity (shitcoin) on it.
it's true that the place of exchange can be number one in coin marketcap but you have to know that the place of manipulation of trading volume aims to be seen as a new exchange place that already has a high trading volume and it's done very easily, so for anyone not to be fooled by the place exchange that has made many people lose.

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November 24, 2019, 01:50:11 AM
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Let's talk about p2b, is this a scam trading platform? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5203715.msg53155451#msg53155451
About a month ago, P2B always held the leading position on Coinmarket in terms of trading volume. How does the P2B exchange generate virtual trading volumes? I think the Bot has been launched on trading pairs ....
There are too many coins despite the large trading volume, displayed on CMC but there is no liquidity (shitcoin) on it.
it's true that the place of exchange can be number one in coin marketcap but you have to know that the place of manipulation of trading volume aims to be seen as a new exchange place that already has a high trading volume and it's done very easily, so for anyone not to be fooled by the place exchange that has made many people lose.

Volume is now very much shady as compared years before. Today, volumes are not only fake, even the right volume are under the manipulation of a few. But since it is the one that gives the traders the liquidity that they need, even fake volumes, the ones that are caused by the bots, are helping the price in one way or another to be constantly moving.
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November 24, 2019, 03:31:03 AM
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Lots of exchanges report fake volume but you are right in as much as high volume doesn't always mean a token is a worthwhile long term invest but liquidity is very important especially if you like to trade regularly so ensure the exchange is reputable and the project has a real use case and there should be less risks involved

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November 24, 2019, 03:48:19 AM
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At present most tokens / coins don't have real use. trading volume is the number of transactions that occur during 1 day / week / month / year. and it can be made by a bot. so bad tokens can make volume increase through bots. so that real traders are interested. I experienced it on Hotbit. well there 60% of trade is bot. all coins / tokens have bots. pump and volume can be done anytime. but when I started trading, everything changed. prices fall, bots make a dump. and it's a trap of shitcoins.
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November 24, 2019, 04:00:44 AM
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Lots of exchanges report fake volume but you are right in as much as high volume doesn't always mean a token is a worthwhile long term invest but liquidity is very important especially if you like to trade regularly so ensure the exchange is reputable and the project has a real use case and there should be less risks involved
Token have their roles and some may not be good for us but good for others and some are only good in trading but not in holding. So we must identify what is our token used so we will not risk on it for long that might lose its value without us noticing it. Choose a trusted exchange too.

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November 24, 2019, 04:30:54 AM
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some exchanges are using trader bot to actually buff up the volume of certain altcoins so the price is going up and once real people want to trade, they won't get any reward and the trade book is filling up quickly because it's all bot whom control the market.

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November 24, 2019, 05:58:49 AM
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But if we talk about good trading volume that means traders have a good income about that coin because many are use it to trade. Use your common sense, as a trader you will not choose coin that you will be loss or coin that will not bring you your return of investment. So I think you are wrong.
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November 24, 2019, 06:11:39 AM
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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good, i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin, well here we go, bad coins can have huuuge volume, you must have heard of bomb token? bomb token has good trading volume but guess what? it has no real use case, the volume comes from HYPE because its a deflationary tokens, people believed that the more a max supply of a token get decreased or burned off over time means they are GOLD tokens, it does bring profits to early adopters like they say but NO REAL USE CASES.
This is true most traders specially new one are being trick and , drag to invest on something they really don’t know what is going on,
sometimes its just a manipulation by a group or what we call whales , who is attracting people, that are new and invest ,one you hook
they will then dump the coin and you are stuck on a coin with really no significance or any goal, and what happen is your end up selling the coin
with loses so i hope we all take a good look first before doing a move on something that is attractive and sounds good in the ears

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November 24, 2019, 06:17:29 AM
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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good, i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin, well here we go, bad coins can have huuuge volume, you must have heard of bomb token? bomb token has good trading volume but guess what? it has no real use case, the volume comes from HYPE because its a deflationary tokens, people believed that the more a max supply of a token get decreased or burned off over time means they are GOLD tokens, it does bring profits to early adopters like they say but NO REAL USE CASES.

I think good volume of token does not mean well token. Actually we must have to see tokens future planning by team and present market as well as token rate. If road map is well then investors must buy that token if its volume also little. So please see roadmap not volume.
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But if we talk about good trading volume that means traders have a good income about that coin because many are use it to trade. Use your common sense, as a trader you will not choose coin that you will be loss or coin that will not bring you your return of investment. So I think you are wrong.
This statement is so wrong. Good trading volume doesn't mean the volume is not artificial. There are so many cases out there about volume being manipulated just for certain purpose. Also, good trading vokume doesn't mean the trader having a good income aswell. There are some cases of newly generated alts that got listed into an exchange having a really good volume but past 3 months they lost almost all of the volume and literally dying.

OP is not wrong, he's just telling people that there are more factors need to be considered even if certain coin have promising valuation on the paper. It's not all about trading volume.

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November 24, 2019, 06:32:11 AM
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Does "use case" really matter now?

I have seen great projects with a great future ahead but just lacks the support from investors.
They don't read roadmaps anymore or even inquire with the management of the creator in any way possible.
Just buying which is popular.

I use Ethereum mostly but look at its price? It is still not taking back its ATH even with a large amount of usage.
So no, it doesn't matter anymore.

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November 24, 2019, 06:48:31 AM
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I've seen many shitcoins that has good trading volume, I'm sure they fake it so yep good trading volume doesn't mean a good coins they can fake the volume. Better to research the project first and visit their telegram if it is active community so you will know if it is good to invest that coin.

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November 24, 2019, 06:50:30 AM
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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good, i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin, well here we go, bad coins can have huuuge volume, you must have heard of bomb token? bomb token has good trading volume but guess what? it has no real use case, the volume comes from HYPE because its a deflationary tokens, people believed that the more a max supply of a token get decreased or burned off over time means they are GOLD tokens, it does bring profits to early adopters like they say but NO REAL USE CASES.

With bots controlling many of the smaller exchanges (and the DEX sites), nowadays it is not that hard to inflate the trade volumes. And on top of that, a higher volume can also mean that the promoters are dumping their tokens (especially if the exchange rate is lower than the listing price). Trade volume can be used as one of the parameters in deciding whether a token is good for investment or not. But it can't be the sole consideration.
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I've seen many shitcoins that has good trading volume, I'm sure they fake it so yep good trading volume doesn't mean a good coins they can fake the volume. Better to research the project first and visit their telegram if it is active community so you will know if it is good to invest that coin.
In fact, fake trading volume is something that investors are difficult to distinguish when choosing to invest in altcoins because some exchanges such as P2PB2B, Latoken, and Vindax all use fake trading volume to stimulate investment demand. I think this is very dangerous because if the project is not good, you will certainly be affected greatly to profitability and liquidity difficulties.

I usually only invest altcoins at some major exchanges because they are exchanges that do not use fake transaction volumes but before investing you need to evaluate that coin in detail.

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Good tokens are in high volume to improve the liquidity of the tokens and many of investors attract for it. Somehow it has a potential to increase the price of the tokens since many of investors willing to buy from it.

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November 24, 2019, 09:48:33 AM
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I've seen many shitcoins that has good trading volume, I'm sure they fake it so yep good trading volume doesn't mean a good coins they can fake the volume. Better to research the project first and visit their telegram if it is active community so you will know if it is good to invest that coin.
Making project research based on Telegram group members and social media channels is the last way I don't use it in my investment plans. Even good tokens have the tricky strategies for boosting their daily trading volume and the monthly turnover. Wash trading is the perfect case for boosting the turnover of any coin in small exchanges and CMC also count this volume as the genuine origin of turnover.

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traders sometimes feel comfortable with one of the coins on the exchange, they don't even care much about the actual use of coins. Many comments write about bots, I have some friends who really like to condition the grid bot in reverse or opposite.

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I have often seen tokens/coins that have fake volume in the market, and now everyone can see whether the volume is fake or not. Like coinmarketcap which released a new feature that is liquidity that helps people to see volume

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November 24, 2019, 01:18:43 PM
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Good volume does not mean a coin has use case. I agree. But good volume means it has liquidity and you can buy/sell with ease. The token FOUR has use case but try check the trading volume on Latoken exchange and you will be alarmed at how poor it is.

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Trading volume does not guarantee coins or tokens have good prospects because the volume is still possible to be manipulated. So yes, volume does not need to be used as a reference because the most important thing is about the project and other factors that make coins desirable and continue to make good progress every time.

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November 24, 2019, 05:18:55 PM
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Trading volume does not guarantee coins or tokens have good prospects because the volume is still possible to be manipulated. So yes, volume does not need to be used as a reference because the most important thing is about the project and other factors that make coins desirable and continue to make good progress every time.

Yeah, many of us just rely on trade volume forgetting that it can be manipulated, and again the sometimes you suddenly see the token after few distributions other token suddenly become stolem or devalued. Although some of this could also be due to lack of investors. Many trade volume have become a bait for those who doesn't know it is more than that.
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November 24, 2019, 05:52:18 PM
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Let me play the devil's advocate on this one... What shall it profit an investor to invest in a good project and lose all their funds? Good trading volume and Good Tech goes hand in hand, if one is present and the other is absent, the project is as good as dead because nobody would have any interest in using it, that's the sad reality of the Cryptocurrency space and if a project has a very good tech, raised a lot of funds and ended up dead on exchanges, I would just assume that the team is very terrible at funds management and j would see it as a shitty project anyways.
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November 24, 2019, 05:58:09 PM
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Having less volume to the coin's market means you can't a trader can't just sell his coins at once by picking the marketprice. Bombtoken is different, the only exchange that has good volume is the Hotbit. Of course you will stick to hotbit if you are going to concentrate trading to this token. Doing that on DDEX or Switcheo Network will be risky for you.

The total volume right now is just $42,004. Let's say, if you are to dump what you have which is more than $42k worth of bomb tokens, you can't do that. Buying back wold be another struggle for you.

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November 24, 2019, 07:27:16 PM
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In my opinion not if the trading volume does not determine a good coin, usually bad coins only have a large trading volume in a short period of time but if it is a good coin the trading volume will not go down remain up or stable this is the difference in shitcoin trading volume and good coin trading volume
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Low volume doesn't mean a token or coin is bad from a technical standpoint. Or even from a developer or real-world use (in theory) standpoint. However it typically means nobody cares about the thing, and it's kind of risky to use it for speculation as there isn't much of a market for it. Also depends on how low volume is defined... if it's 100-500K/daily, that's still okay-ish... if we are talking about $100/daily, that's problematic.

And yeah, high volume doesn't mean a bad coin is automatically good either. Problem of course is that so much volume is faked to begin with. There are a number of coins where I had to do a double-take on volume, wondering how such a low ranked coin (and a coin nobody has heard of before) was pulling in some insane volume numbers. Then I checked the exchanges... usually such coins aren't on a top exchange... more like exchanges it's wise to purposely avoid. It's clear in those situations that volume is fake or all wash trading.
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Having less volume to the coin's market means you can't a trader can't just sell his coins at once by picking the marketprice. Bombtoken is different, the only exchange that has good volume is the Hotbit. Of course you will stick to hotbit if you are going to concentrate trading to this token. Doing that on DDEX or Switcheo Network will be risky for you.

The total volume right now is just $42,004. Let's say, if you are to dump what you have which is more than $42k worth of bomb tokens, you can't do that. Buying back wold be another struggle for you.
I actually agreeing with that subject because there are lots of project that has a lot of volume but the price is not that good to buy, hold and sell. So I recommend to everyone who wants to invest their money in cryptocurrency that they should study every project they want to invest in. They should read the most important thing on the project and that is the whitepaper wherein all of the information and plans are stated there, you should also visit their website for you to gain more information about them. You should be aware because there are still scams project everywhere.
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November 24, 2019, 08:52:00 PM
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The trading volume shows transactions that occur in trading activity in a particular section. This transaction involves buying and selling. High trading volume, can occur naturally because the tokens or coins are "in demand" to trade, some have to be boosted with bots, some are fake. Fake trading volumes are usually controlled by bots to boost sales, usually for shitcoin which is difficult to form market capacity, it is annoying to trade with this. The current price displayed is not appropriate.

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The trading volume shows transactions that occur in trading activity in a particular section. This transaction involves buying and selling. High trading volume, can occur naturally because the tokens or coins are "in demand" to trade, some have to be boosted with bots, some are fake. Fake trading volumes are usually controlled by bots to boost sales, usually for shitcoin which is difficult to form market capacity, it is annoying to trade with this. The current price displayed is not appropriate.
Good trading volume shows demand for a token in most cases especially when it spans through a long duration, manipulated trading volumes do not really span through a long duration because the sole aim is mainly for the team or some big traders to pump and dump. In essence, I'm in the opinion that most times good trading volume signify a good token since traders won't really have interest in shit tokens, hence leading to poor demand. Looking at your write up, I wonder when exchanges can combat bot trading completely, for now there is lasting solution to this issue.
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November 24, 2019, 09:17:01 PM
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of course, sometime members of team want to popilarize the token and making fake tradings with fake volume, so need to learn all history of trading of token
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I also think that Good trading volume doesn't mean a good token. Yes, a lot of words can be explained, but I find it hard to say. Can you explain it more clearly?
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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good, i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin, well here we go, bad coins can have huuuge volume, you must have heard of bomb token? bomb token has good trading volume but guess what? it has no real use case, the volume comes from HYPE because its a deflationary tokens, people believed that the more a max supply of a token get decreased or burned off over time means they are GOLD tokens, it does bring profits to early adopters like they say but NO REAL USE CASES.
This is absolutely right I faced this situation. For hype news I hold a coin for long term in exchange but later dump from 500 USD to 56 USD. I don't wanna mention this token name but volume was really good.
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November 24, 2019, 11:35:47 PM
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I also think that Good trading volume doesn't mean a good token. Yes, a lot of words can be explained, but I find it hard to say. Can you explain it more clearly?
You know a good trading volume can be build up by hyping the coin and that was the case for so many project in the past. the token may be just another shit token or even just a clone of some already existing token with basically the same functionality but if there's some kind factor that could make people hyped about the project for example using popular people's name to their advisor and team of developers then it could gather the attention of the crowd. But then afterward people realize that the coin is basically a shit coin in disguise and it will lost the volume and popularity afterwards.

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November 25, 2019, 08:39:50 AM
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With the way the Cryptocurrency market is going, I would prefer a good volume and price over a product with a usecase, see ICX for example, I bought hen it was worth $8 per token and presently, each token is worth about $0.1 and this is a token with a very good volume in exchanges and very big hype and their own complete ecosystem, but give me a project that the price has been steadily rising daily and they are maintaining their volume for years and I would take this project over the fully developed one whose price is useless and which I can't even sell it's tokens because there are no buyers in the exchanges.

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On the contrary, in my opinion even a token has a working solution but does not attract investors attention, it is useless. When the trading volume is high and real, it is a good sign of investors interest and bright coin future.
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What I would say here - nothing depends on one components only. What basically makes sense - complex approach towards token and solution analysis. And I am sure that only such strategy leads to right decisions, while choosing the token
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What I would say here - nothing depends on one components only. What basically makes sense - complex approach towards token and solution analysis. And I am sure that only such strategy leads to right decisions, while choosing the token

Hello there. You know, I would definitely agree with you on your statement. What is important as well - the practical value. Kinda you must be having understanding of why you are using the platform, how it simplifies your life and else
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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good, i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin, well here we go, bad coins can have huuuge volume, you must have heard of bomb token? bomb token has good trading volume but guess what? it has no real use case, the volume comes from HYPE because its a deflationary tokens, people believed that the more a max supply of a token get decreased or burned off over time means they are GOLD tokens, it does bring profits to early adopters like they say but NO REAL USE CASES.
Although the supply continues to decrease time by time, but if no one is interested to buy it i think it's useless! If they think in the future this token will become gold, I think they have gone crazy. Just imagine, how can tokens without enthusiasts and use cases can grow? even tokens with many use cases and enthusiasts are difficult to grow in the present. Come on think hard man!

 
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Hello there. You know, I would definitely agree with you on your statement. What is important as well - the practical value. Kinda you must be having understanding of why you are using the platform, how it simplifies your life and else

Very rational. I am adding innovations, roadmap, team experience and milestones - formula for a great platform. By the way, are you having any that fully meet your requirements? Many such?
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Very rational. I am adding innovations, roadmap, team experience and milestones - formula for a great platform. By the way, are you having any that fully meet your requirements? Many such?

Oh, good question. Nope, I cannot say that there are many - only 2 or 3 most interesting ones. But to be honest, the most advanced solution (and my latest discovery at the same time) is Housinet ICO. What I am really impressed with here - entirely new and innovative approach on real estate and property management industry. Deep analysis, downtimes evaluation, metrics, p2p rentals and much more via 1 single ecosystem. And yeah, great partnerships with leaders on industry make sense as well. So I definitely recommend you to have a closer look at what the guys are offering, just Google them, platform is in very high demand these days
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Oh, good question. Nope, I cannot say that there are many - only 2 or 3 most interesting ones. But to be honest, the most advanced solution (and my latest discovery at the same time) is Housinet ICO. What I am really impressed with here - entirely new and innovative approach on real estate and property management industry. Deep analysis, downtimes evaluation, metrics, p2p rentals and much more via 1 single ecosystem. And yeah, great partnerships with leaders on industry make sense as well. So I definitely recommend you to have a closer look at what the guys are offering, just Google them, platform is in very high demand these days

More than impressing, thank you very much for your recommendation here. I will have a closer look at what solutions stays for and get back with own thoughts afterwards. So far so good, again Smiley
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November 25, 2019, 07:43:19 PM
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Trader no matter the problem like this. They see if many volumes make it easy for them to trade and take profit, not that the tokens or coins are good.
That's the main reason why traders want good enough volume for a token/coin. Making profit will be more easy because trade takes place in a short time, so it doesn't need long time to get a profit, then they can rotate it again and again.
Absolutely right and i strongly agree with you because as a trader i know that there are no need big volume tokens for trading specifically in the short term trading. Even personally i think you can make good profit in short time to trade with small token and low volume. Profit is very difficult in top ranking and big volume coin. Just if you have to plan long term trade or investment than definitely you should be concern with top ranking coins.                 

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of course, sometime members of team want to popilarize the token and making fake tradings with fake volume, so need to learn all history of trading of token
The team doesn't have an access to do that but the exchange site is taking a very important role in this case consider about all of the access was owning by the exchange site owner itself. What we need to learn is about never try to trade in the crap exchange site. The exchange site is a party that is having very strong chance to do PnD
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November 25, 2019, 10:53:11 PM
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With the way the Cryptocurrency market is going, I would prefer a good volume and price over a product with a usecase, see ICX for example, I bought hen it was worth $8 per token and presently, each token is worth about $0.1 and this is a token with a very good volume in exchanges and very big hype and their own complete ecosystem, but give me a project that the price has been steadily rising daily and they are maintaining their volume for years and I would take this project over the fully developed one whose price is useless and which I can't even sell it's tokens because there are no buyers in the exchanges.
There are indeed project like that. A project with finished product can ready to be used by people but the problem is there are no people that wanted to use their product which means the product is as good as nonexistent. Just take example of any top 10 coin most of them are just consist of smart contract platform or just have the functionality of being used for remmitances and nothing more but they could stand strong, becasue they have the community and they could create the hype that lead people into thinking they deserve to have the price. Except bitcoin, bitcoin is like the most adopted coin that have true use case.

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November 26, 2019, 01:06:17 AM
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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good, i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin, well here we go, bad coins can have huuuge volume, you must have heard of bomb token? bomb token has good trading volume but guess what? it has no real use case, the volume comes from HYPE because its a deflationary tokens, people believed that the more a max supply of a token get decreased or burned off over time means they are GOLD tokens, it does bring profits to early adopters like they say but NO REAL USE CASES.
Without have volume transaction on exchange market how come to said good altcoin for trading or investing, I think volume transaction is important part because can increase altcoin to higher price, without have volume transaction not possible price can be up. Many altcoin have lower price because supply is unlimited although have good volume transaction on exchange market.

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November 26, 2019, 02:14:38 AM
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Large volumes of coin tokens can be manipulated easily. I once traded coins that were rarely in demand but the volume of coins was high. High volume was indeed manipulated using bots. I can't sell coins properly. A healthy coin volume is when many trade without using bots.

yes I agree with you coins that have high trading volume does not mean that coins are good coins. because high volumes can be manipulated by bots. maybe only coins that have real uses and are also in demand by investors who can have high trading volumes. and enter the list of CMC's top coins that are included in the good coins.

 
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November 26, 2019, 02:35:24 AM
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no, I still think coins with low trading volume are bad and vice versa, we can do research before buying so it's impossible to buy because of the hype. actually it only depends on our accuracy in choosing the right one for real use cases, and combined with good trading volume too

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November 26, 2019, 04:14:38 AM
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You are right, a high trading volume is not necessarily a good coin, because it could be that the volume was not made by genuine traders, but developers who are playing with their own coins and want profits.
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November 26, 2019, 06:49:14 AM
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Is there any universal definition of a good token? I don't think there is any. So, individual has its own definition of a good token and as for me, good trading volume is part of it. After all, what most traders and investors care about in the industry is profit and not product.

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November 26, 2019, 08:00:27 AM
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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good, i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin, well here we go, bad coins can have huuuge volume, you must have heard of bomb token? bomb token has good trading volume but guess what? it has no real use case, the volume comes from HYPE because its a deflationary tokens, people believed that the more a max supply of a token get decreased or burned off over time means they are GOLD tokens, it does bring profits to early adopters like they say but NO REAL USE CASES.

I think it is too risky if we trade with tokens that do not have a large market cap value because it can be when we buy tokens at high prices or are exposed to FOMO. It is better to focus trading on coins that are already popular and have large daily transaction averages so that volatility can be predicted

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November 26, 2019, 08:25:32 AM
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no, I still think coins with low trading volume are bad and vice versa, we can do research before buying so it's impossible to buy because of the hype. actually it only depends on our accuracy in choosing the right one for real use cases, and combined with good trading volume too

It is better to avoid coins that do not have a product but have a high volume in a short time because it could be bots. It's safer if we trade on coins listed at large exchangers because liquidity is usually stable and does not use bots and real volume
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November 26, 2019, 08:26:26 AM
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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good, i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin, well here we go, bad coins can have huuuge volume, you must have heard of bomb token? bomb token has good trading volume but guess what? it has no real use case, the volume comes from HYPE because its a deflationary tokens, people believed that the more a max supply of a token get decreased or burned off over time means they are GOLD tokens, it does bring profits to early adopters like they say but NO REAL USE CASES.

The fact is that it is difficult to say wherein a volume is real and not fake. Yep, wherein lies the truth? If really I think analyzing  volume is not vitally for making right decisions nevertheless volume analyzing may be useful to figure out the particular situation better, of course I imply honest volumes. Not to be like a "deer" which is fooled by his unfair wife  an investor must be very careful to survive or an investor will be eaten by Wall street wolves. An investor must understand the situation despite trading volumes so do not excruciate yourself by analyzing fake volumes.
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November 26, 2019, 12:05:56 PM
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You are right, a high trading volume is not necessarily a good coin, because it could be that the volume was not made by genuine traders, but developers who are playing with their own coins and want profits.
A large volume does not guarantee that the coins are of good quality, especially if the volume is small. what needs to be done whether the token has the quality or not is to do in-depth research of the project. sometimes there are certain reasons why the volume of a token is very high, and if volume up with no reason, it is very clear that the volume was manipulated. today so many people are manipulating the volume of tokens, even exchangers. they do it to attract people to use their products.

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November 26, 2019, 01:33:47 PM
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at least with a good and large volume, there are still transactions and profitable than coins whose volume is less I guess. sometimes it is true that the volume is not the basis it is a good coin because it is prone to fake volume. for that, choose the top exchanges and see how the community of the coin also the development.

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November 26, 2019, 02:39:19 PM
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no, I still think coins with low trading volume are bad and vice versa, we can do research before buying so it's impossible to buy because of the hype. actually it only depends on our accuracy in choosing the right one for real use cases, and combined with good trading volume too

It is better to avoid coins that do not have a product but have a high volume in a short time because it could be bots. It's safer if we trade on coins listed at large exchangers because liquidity is usually stable and does not use bots and real volume
Again, large exchanges, large exchange markets also do not necessarily guarantee that it is genuine people who trade. that's also a lot of trading bots. all I agree with you is "it's better to avoid coins that don't have a product" volume of trade may be large but there is no product so what does this kind of coin rely on? surely the price of this coin in the market relies on a hype and fud, without this, this coin will definitely not be valuable and will not have a trading volume in the end to be shitcoin too.
So, my point is that coins that can survive in various seasons (bear/bull) are coins/tokens that are good and can be trusted.

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November 26, 2019, 02:52:25 PM
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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good, i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin, well here we go, bad coins can have huuuge volume, you must have heard of bomb token? bomb token has good trading volume but guess what? it has no real use case, the volume comes from HYPE because its a deflationary tokens, people believed that the more a max supply of a token get decreased or burned off over time means they are GOLD tokens, it does bring profits to early adopters like they say but NO REAL USE CASES.
I still do believe that market volume of a token determines its condition. Maybe in some instances it do not but in my opinion, that's another case. Market volume alone would surely not make a token good because it needs consistency. If a crypto would have a good volume for a long period of time, surely it would imply that the crypto is a good one just like with Bitcoin which is continuously  having volume making its price to be on top of other cryptos.

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November 26, 2019, 03:05:02 PM
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I think if there are coins with high trading, of course, that's something good. because enthusiasts and support communities are also large. but it is different if what happens is the manipulation of an exchange to increase trade in coins which is very small. we have to look back at the project of the coin whether it is good with the updates made or just manipulation.

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One way you can find out if volume doesn't matter is if you try trading on coins that has very minimum volume, see for yourself if you can earn a lot with it then good, you deserved a pat on your back but if come back and you lost your coins then its not working. The reason why traders do it on BTC and USD is because that is where the money is. Volume is where you should be going, let the low volume coins die, you are just helping the scammers if that is what you are doing.
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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good, i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin, well here we go, bad coins can have huuuge volume, you must have heard of bomb token? bomb token has good trading volume but guess what? it has no real use case, the volume comes from HYPE because its a deflationary tokens, people believed that the more a max supply of a token get decreased or burned off over time means they are GOLD tokens, it does bring profits to early adopters like they say but NO REAL USE CASES.

Bad coins can have good volume.

But coins that have no volume are dead coins. Being dead is kinda bad...

 
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November 26, 2019, 03:35:00 PM
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You are right, a high trading volume is not necessarily a good coin, because it could be that the volume was not made by genuine traders, but developers who are playing with their own coins and want profits.
Yes, and how can we know that the volume was not made by real traders, but developers who play with their own coins and want profits? because basically everyone also wants each other's profits.
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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good, i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin, well here we go, bad coins can have huuuge volume, you must have heard of bomb token? bomb token has good trading volume but guess what? it has no real use case, the volume comes from HYPE because its a deflationary tokens, people believed that the more a max supply of a token get decreased or burned off over time means they are GOLD tokens, it does bring profits to early adopters like they say but NO REAL USE CASES.

You're right! I also believe that high trading volumes are not an indicator of cryptocurrency success. I know some interesting crypto projects in their ideas and their crypto asset is already on the exchange. And if you go in and look, you will see that there is a high trading volume every day. But if you check the number of holders of this crypto asset, you will be surprised that there are only a few people, not even 10 holders. All this speaks of a certain fraud both on the part of the project itself and on the part of the exchange where it is supposedly being traded.
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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good, i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin, well here we go, bad coins can have huuuge volume, you must have heard of bomb token? bomb token has good trading volume but guess what? it has no real use case, the volume comes from HYPE because its a deflationary tokens, people believed that the more a max supply of a token get decreased or burned off over time means they are GOLD tokens, it does bring profits to early adopters like they say but NO REAL USE CASES.

You're right! I also believe that high trading volumes are not an indicator of cryptocurrency success. I know some interesting crypto projects in their ideas and their crypto asset is already on the exchange. And if you go in and look, you will see that there is a high trading volume every day. But if you check the number of holders of this crypto asset, you will be surprised that there are only a few people, not even 10 holders. All this speaks of a certain fraud both on the part of the project itself and on the part of the exchange where it is supposedly being traded.

   Trading volume is not an indicator cause it can be faked, by one man with good bot or with a group of people. CoinMarketCap
service was accused for doing that, and misleading people.
   There are better parameters for choosing a good coin. I choose a coin by the idea they have, team that will develop that
idea and community that supports it, some good coins don't have high trading volume cause most of the people hold those
coins and they don't trade with them.



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November 26, 2019, 03:56:38 PM
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I assume if a good trade does not recognize volume, I prefer the type of token that has a small trading volume but can continue, balanced between sell and buy. because it minimizes a coin to be bad, and the potential for a coin will be maintained well

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Large volumes of coin tokens can be manipulated easily. I once traded coins that were rarely in demand but the volume of coins was high. High volume was indeed manipulated using bots. I can't sell coins properly. A healthy coin volume is when many trade without using bots.
i agree there is a lot of bot and it is used to make the volume for the coin or token
so we can't really based to the volume if we are looking for a good coin to invest or trade







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Well yes, volume is a good thing. But as it goes up it can go down pretty hard in just a matter of few days. What it makes the coin good is the value of it and it's real world utility.

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good trading volume might boost the price of coins to be good, but not all coins experience it. sometimes the trading volume is good but there are prices that are still at the bottom level and do not experience pumping. so I don't think volume can be the main reason
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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good, i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin, well here we go, bad coins can have huuuge volume, you must have heard of bomb token? bomb token has good trading volume but guess what? it has no real use case, the volume comes from HYPE because its a deflationary tokens, people believed that the more a max supply of a token get decreased or burned off over time means they are GOLD tokens, it does bring profits to early adopters like they say but NO REAL USE CASES.

You made a valid point, but in most cases a good trading volume is an indicator of a good project. Most projects with poor trading volume are dead or in the stage of demise. Bomb token clearly has no real use case, but the team have funds to keep the volume high and that's what attracts more persons to the project. You would agree with me that several persons in this space are in it for the money and when they see an opportunity to make money, they take advantage irrespective of whether the project is valid or not.
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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good, i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin, well here we go, bad coins can have huuuge volume, you must have heard of bomb token? bomb token has good trading volume but guess what? it has no real use case, the volume comes from HYPE because its a deflationary tokens, people believed that the more a max supply of a token get decreased or burned off over time means they are GOLD tokens, it does bring profits to early adopters like they say but NO REAL USE CASES.

Tokens or coins that have a stable volume and count above $ 1 million per day, I think the coin or token is a good investment. There may not be a product yet but sees a large and stable transaction, illustrating investor confidence in the project.
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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good, i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin, well here we go, bad coins can have huuuge volume, you must have heard of bomb token? bomb token has good trading volume but guess what? it has no real use case, the volume comes from HYPE because its a deflationary tokens, people believed that the more a max supply of a token get decreased or burned off over time means they are GOLD tokens, it does bring profits to early adopters like they say but NO REAL USE CASES.

Tokens or coins that have a stable volume and count above $ 1 million per day, I think the coin or token is a good investment. There may not be a product yet but sees a large and stable transaction, illustrating investor confidence in the project.


yes at least with volume and have a strong real community that will support the token/coin for transactions. actually a lot of coins/tokens whose products are not much developed but because of strong community support to make it stay in an exchange

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December 12, 2019, 02:44:50 PM
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Correct. I agree if the trading volume does not necessarily guarantee the price of the token is good. to measure a token whether or not, we can see in terms of price charts. the extent of interest in a token. because if the token is good the price will definitely skyrocket.
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December 12, 2019, 02:56:59 PM
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 Although some trading volume could be fake caused by bots, but for a coin to have a good trading volume it means it has value that why people are buying . if the developers are not active on a project , definately  such coins cannot havea a  real good trading volume
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December 12, 2019, 02:58:52 PM
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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good, i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin, well here we go, bad coins can have huuuge volume, you must have heard of bomb token? bomb token has good trading volume but guess what? it has no real use case, the volume comes from HYPE because its a deflationary tokens, people believed that the more a max supply of a token get decreased or burned off over time means they are GOLD tokens, it does bring profits to early adopters like they say but NO REAL USE CASES.
I share with you my similar opinion. Because there are so many coins. Where I see that the volume is good but it has nothing to do with the price increase. Reducing the price hike depends on the trading of investors.

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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good, i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin, well here we go, bad coins can have huuuge volume, you must have heard of bomb token? bomb token has good trading volume but guess what? it has no real use case, the volume comes from HYPE because its a deflationary tokens, people believed that the more a max supply of a token get decreased or burned off over time means they are GOLD tokens, it does bring profits to early adopters like they say but NO REAL USE CASES.
I didn't think that people were so naive that they thought that the volume of a coin told you if it was any good or not, we have seen many coins in the past get to some huge market cap, popularity and volume and then disappear when it was confirmed that they were scams, this reminds me of all the people that think that a project is good just because they got profits with it and they think a project is bad because they lost money with it, that kind of thinking doesn't really make a lot of sense.

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we can not decide a good coin/token only on its volume trading. We have to decide base on its tech, community, users, solving what problem...


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December 16, 2019, 11:08:45 AM
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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good, i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin, well here we go, bad coins can have huuuge volume, you must have heard of bomb token? bomb token has good trading volume but guess what? it has no real use case, the volume comes from HYPE because its a deflationary tokens, people believed that the more a max supply of a token get decreased or burned off over time means they are GOLD tokens, it does bring profits to early adopters like they say but NO REAL USE CASES.
For me a project that has a real use case will have advantages over the others and investors will also prefer to invest in the project than in a new project that only repeats what other projects have already delivered.
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December 16, 2019, 11:20:49 AM
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Altcoin good certainly has a high trading volume and is listed on large exchanges as well.
It is not possible for large exchanges to accept altcoin if there is no good capability to register in the bourse.
If altcoin has a small volume even though there are real users if there is no progress then it will slowly become rubbish.
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December 16, 2019, 11:54:22 AM
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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good, i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin, well here we go, bad coins can have huuuge volume, you must have heard of bomb token? bomb token has good trading volume but guess what? it has no real use case, the volume comes from HYPE because its a deflationary tokens, people believed that the more a max supply of a token get decreased or burned off over time means they are GOLD tokens, it does bring profits to early adopters like they say but NO REAL USE CASES.

I think the token that has a large transaction volume indicates investor interest in the token. If told to choose to invest in tokens that have large and small volumes, of course I will choose tokens that have large transaction volumes because this signifies liquidity
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December 16, 2019, 12:18:18 PM
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What makes a coin to be a good one is more than just good volume, though good volume is important to the success of a coin but we should not forget that we can get good volume through some kind of HYPE. A good coin must have  use case.

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December 16, 2019, 02:51:20 PM
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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good, i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin, well here we go, bad coins can have huuuge volume, you must have heard of bomb token? bomb token has good trading volume but guess what? it has no real use case, the volume comes from HYPE because its a deflationary tokens, people believed that the more a max supply of a token get decreased or burned off over time means they are GOLD tokens, it does bring profits to early adopters like they say but NO REAL USE CASES.
but trading volume is very influential friend. tokens will last long and can even go up if the trading volume is high. because the price will be determined based on the total supply and circulation of its supply, everyone who will buy will definitely see that. so the trading volume is very important, and simple again is if the token has a high trading volume, it means there are many interested people there and the chances are good coins. if you are talking about real use cases, do they really exist now? crypto is still in the stage of digital investment assets, not yet there.
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December 16, 2019, 03:01:29 PM
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Most people will see volume as sign to get transaction, now you can see volume become clearly parameter for trade/ invest purposes. If you don' see from volume which factor that we can use? price is relative, release in good exchanges some token/ coin become scam because has no volume. I suggest you avoid that opinion because can broke your realistic mindset, stay safe with volume is better.

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