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November 28, 2019, 10:31:42 AM
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It looks incredible. But to be honest, I cant imagine this car on the street. This car would look cool in some relevant landscapes (such as Iceland, or some desert). But when I imagine that this car will be stuck in traffic in an ordinary city, it makes me laugh.
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November 28, 2019, 11:44:38 AM
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That car I wouldn't buy it to use it as a pick-up truck. I would simply buy it because it has a high cool factor in my mind. Call me crazy but I would have a high self satisfaction
driving one. It's not about carrying a lot of weight or trailers but enjoying your experience.
It's the same "idea" as why people prefer to buy a BMW or Mercedes to a Renault (obviously if they can afford one)

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November 29, 2019, 06:24:24 AM
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I hope that's not the final design. It looks very polygonal and ugly tbh.

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November 29, 2019, 07:26:50 AM
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I hope that's not the final design. It looks very polygonal and ugly tbh.

I know right, But I still want it
then buy one when it becomes available(only if you can afford the value lol)

It looks incredible. But to be honest, I cant imagine this car on the street. This car would look cool in some relevant landscapes (such as Iceland, or some desert). But when I imagine that this car will be stuck in traffic in an ordinary city, it makes me laugh.
sooner it will be cool  looking in city also,and besides being a truck?does it looks for appropriate in city compared to Ford designs?

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November 29, 2019, 08:03:27 AM
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I hope that's not the final design. It looks very polygonal and ugly tbh.

The design is awesome!
I think that everyone who will be able to purchase this truck will buy the ability to go to Mars with it and drive it there. It is a truck from outer space both in the design and in the characteristics!

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November 29, 2019, 09:10:51 AM
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I hope that's not the final design. It looks very polygonal and ugly tbh.

The design is awesome!
I think that everyone who will be able to purchase this truck will buy the ability to go to Mars with it and drive it there. It is a truck from outer space both in the design and in the characteristics!

Maybe a clear case of to much computer gaming, total loss of reality.
No its develop right here and utilizes thousand year old battery technology and permanent magnet motor, most likely.
Early models used synchronous motor (AC) developed by Nikola Tesla a long time ago (1888) but for cost and efficiency reasons Model 3 uses the much older permanent magnet motor (DC) technology.

The Nikola Tesla's AC Induction Motor is one of the 10 greatest discoveries of all time but has eddie current issues.

Real technological advances would utilize something like W18 solenoid motor or Double star solenoid motor
Spaced out gimmick toys are not long term economic viable, a solenoid liquid pump driven car would be one solution to improve efficiency.

AC Tesla Induction Motor from 1892   Model 3 DC motor
 -vs- "spaced out" 32 solenoid motor

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November 29, 2019, 08:09:22 PM
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To be fair, Odds are that in 2021 if the BTC price prediction of Stock to Flow are almost fulfilled I will pull the trigger and get one.
Announced autonomy will be crazy amazing! In the past 4 years only once I have done a trip that would have needed to stop and recharge the batteries before arrival. But also, with 400 miles (670km)  of autonomy, you need a coffee stop / toilet break at least once or twice before the battery is empty ( driving at aprox 75km/h between cities).

I'm curious, why only now that there is a "truck" you are interested? None of the previous models work for you? Do you really need to be traveling long distances in a truck rather than a sedan?

By 2021 these cars will be even cheaper. You can already buy an used model S for almost the same price of a new model 3. There is also the other car manufacturers bringing their electric cars which will bring options and competition in the market.

Oh and someone actually modded a regular model S into a truck, it doesn't look like the cybertruck at all, its just a half model s with a flat back, and its actually working fine. Of course it doesn't fit 4 people but the usual 2, and i think its smaller and compact, which is very useful in certain places (probably not so much in America).



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November 30, 2019, 11:02:48 AM
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Tesla is moving in the right direction, i hope that one day we can get something like this Cheesy. For those that don't recognize it, it is vehicle from Aliens


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Tesla is moving in the right direction, i hope that one day we can get something like this Cheesy. From those that don't recognize it, it is vehicle from Aliens


Well i hope one day we are free of guns, production outlawed and no-one has any.   Fail to see the good in it.
Moving crazy amount of pounds to go from A to B is not environment friendly, economical, or practical.
A friend of mine is now on the second Tesla been lots of time with him on city traffic and also long distance, i would go crazy with that thing.
My e-bike, bad purchase, my e-scooter its so-so.

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The future of transportation is clearly:
https://youtu.be/_QLEERYS5C8?t=86  Grin
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Maybe a clear case of to much computer gaming, total loss of reality.
No its develop right here and utilizes thousand year old battery technology and permanent magnet motor, most likely.
Early models used synchronous motor (AC) developed by Nikola Tesla a long time ago (1888) but for cost and efficiency reasons Model 3 uses the much older permanent magnet motor (DC) technology.

The Nikola Tesla's AC Induction Motor is one of the 10 greatest discoveries of all time but has eddie current issues.

Real technological advances would utilize something like W18 solenoid motor or Double star solenoid motor
Spaced out gimmick toys are not long term economic viable, a solenoid liquid pump driven car would be one solution to improve efficiency.

AC Tesla Induction Motor from 1892   Model 3 DC motor
 -vs- "spaced out" 32 solenoid motor


You are more than welcome to prove it by developing a product and take it to market. There is probably a gotcha lost somewhere in your idea, that hasn't gotten the attention of Tesla. If that engine is so great, why not use it? How about all the other car companies, which one is using the 32 solenoid motor?

I like competing ideas, its still inline with Elon's push to electrify the world's transportation.

While we are at it, which of them is used in the "Cybertruck"? AC or DC? Unfortunately power always comes from DC, the not so old Li-ion (and derivatives) batteries.



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Maybe a clear case of to much computer gaming, total loss of reality.
No its develop right here and utilizes thousand year old battery technology and permanent magnet motor, most likely.
Early models used synchronous motor (AC) developed by Nikola Tesla a long time ago (1888) but for cost and efficiency reasons Model 3 uses the much older permanent magnet motor (DC) technology.

The Nikola Tesla's AC Induction Motor is one of the 10 greatest discoveries of all time but has eddie current issues.

Real technological advances would utilize something like W18 solenoid motor or Double star solenoid motor
Spaced out gimmick toys are not long term economic viable, a solenoid liquid pump driven car would be one solution to improve efficiency.

AC Tesla Induction Motor from 1892   Model 3 DC motor
 -vs- "spaced out" 32 solenoid motor


You are more than welcome to prove it by developing a product and take it to market. There is probably a gotcha lost somewhere in your idea, that hasn't gotten the attention of Tesla. If that engine is so great, why not use it? How about all the other car companies, which one is using the 32 solenoid motor?

I like competing ideas, its still inline with Elon's push to electrify the world's transportation.

While we are at it, which of them is used in the "Cybertruck"? AC or DC? Unfortunately power always comes from DC, the not so old Li-ion (and derivatives) batteries.

The discussion is about spaced out motor/car. There is absolutely noting spaced out about DC/AC motor or flat paneling that was/is reserved to backyard homemade fabrications.
A solenoid and DC motor is fundamentally the same operation except one moves circles the other linear. Circular can never be as efficient as linear.

If someone wants there is all sorts of spaced out options available in modern engineering a common computer fan or other cheap appliance motor is not one of them. The desire must be there

Any cheap mobile phone/laptop.... has Li-ion batteries. Jamming a lot of them together and create a drive-able coffin (death trap) is not everyone dream.

Why did Tesla have AC motors pre model 3?   I dont know ask Elon, Three possibility's.  
1. if you start of with retarded* version its easy to make "improvements" in later models.
*Taking a DC power source (battery) and use a inverter to power a 3 phase synchronous alternating current motor (AC) is not efficient, inverters are notoriously inefficient.
2. to name the car a Tesla, without a AC motor why is it named a Tesla, because of the Radio, wireless....which also come from Nikola Tesla
3. combination of 1 and 2

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December 02, 2019, 06:15:37 PM
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That truck looks nice and secure (for a zombie apocalipse) lol.

The specifications are a good offer, such a big truck and are fast as hell, so that's a good point. But the design is too much for 2020, why companies keep focusing in make better cars while we have drones for humans?

Maybe Tesla should open his vision beyond the weels.

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December 02, 2019, 07:23:34 PM
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That truck looks nice and secure (for a zombie apocalipse) lol.

Ya, I think he had a lot of people as soon as he used the word bulletproof.

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December 03, 2019, 04:07:27 AM
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That truck looks nice and secure (for a zombie apocalipse) lol.

Ya, I think he had a lot of people as soon as he used the word bulletproof.

I guess it goes with the bullet proof house, office and pulletproof vest.
I prefer to move to some civilized place and take the cabriolet for a spin.
No bullet needed just short circuit of battery, instead fried to dead.

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Can't wait to drive it on mars really.
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Cybertruck's competitor on Mars presented by NASA


ini the next few years we will see many cars with unique shapes appearing  Cheesy

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Weird. Can you really drive this thing? haha. Of course it's a matter of taste, but to me it looks absolutely uncomfortable. But it is original - yes. Maybe I'm just a bit oldschool about cars - I prefer retro cars much more even over any usual modern cars  Huh
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December 04, 2019, 05:54:12 PM
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I guess it goes with the bullet proof house, office and pulletproof vest.
I prefer to move to some civilized place and take the cabriolet for a spin.
No bullet needed just short circuit of battery, instead fried to dead.

As opposed to carrying a tank full of flammable liquid fuel with an engine that is constantly igniting it in tiny portions to produce movement? I wonder if the word Pinto rings a bell to you? The few times a Tesla crashed or something nasty punctured the battery bank provoking a short circuit, people had plenty of time to leave the car. The car even stops and warns the driver and passengers to leave the car when an abnormal temperature condition with the batteries occurs.

Your talk about "spaced" and "linear" seems to be hinting to linear induction, the types where the thing is spread either in the road or train/monorail like things. Come to think of it, Elon's Hyperloop might actually be using something like that...

Obviously, "civilized" countries have plenty of mass transport options available. But we are talking America here, land of the free, everyone lives in low density suburbs too far from stations... Since the 50ies, they designed their life around cars, that was the trend back then as seen in Brasilia. But in the 60ies you also see people like Walt Disney trying a concept of a more densely populated city with a mass transit system based around linear induction (aka. people's mover). Yes, an idea being old doesn't make it wrong, but it was never realized beyond a couple of theme parks and the odd underground at some airport and the Capitol.

So what you suggest is go back to the status quo, do nothing because your idea is better but nobody does it?. 50 years passed yet nothing was done. Even Disney's project died with him, their company completely focused in "entertainment" nowadays nobody would even guess he tried that unless you bother to search his old Epcot project videos in Youtube.

Tesla cars work, and several other manufacturers are following. I don't particularly care that the AC motor was invented by Nikola Tesla a century ago, i actually liked it very much the way it works in the pre 3 models. Wheels are round, and tend to do circular motion, rather than linear...

Of course you don't have to use the wheels for traction, but that's the way things are. Short of changing all roads or simply not using cars at all. Which is just not going to happen, especially for an American company. But even the Chinese and Europeans are joining in, so the point remains. It is a step forward, made it to market and changed the world.

Oh and the cybertruck will be recognized unmistakably anywhere it goes, i say it was an astute publicity stunt he pulled there with a "pet project" that wasn't expected to exist in the first place.

This is a polygonal shape, the closest trend was the squares of the 80ies. Before and after cars have tended to be curvy, for aesthetic and aerodynamic reasons. But i guess a truck isn't expected to break mileage records, so why not. I hope its successful and useful for those lucky enough to get one. Even if it flops, it will become an object of collection just like Deloreans if only because of its shape.



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December 04, 2019, 09:37:56 PM
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Each show of Elon Musk is getting worse and worse. I feel like theyve prepared for the show 10 minutes before it starts....
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December 04, 2019, 10:29:06 PM
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Each show of Elon Musk is getting worse and worse. I feel like theyve prepared for the show 10 minutes before it starts....

that's completly true, how can you test the glass in front of the millions buyes if you tested it just once before.
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