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Right now, it’s not possible to quote a post from a locked topic because we can’t reply. Quoting from locked topics could be useful sometimes to refer to a normal quote like it’s possible for every unlocked topic. I know, it’s also a solution to just quote the text and add a link manually but that wouldn’t include the date of the quoted post and need more time to type the author, especially for multiple quotes.

That problem doesn’t include only historical posts but also some recent ones like the 10-year contest from theymos where I tried to refer to in our local section while quoting it.




So, my suggestion is:

Enable quotes from locked topics and display a message that the topic is locked; people can only copy the text to use it as a normal quote but can’t submit a new reply:




Is it possible to implement? It’s not super important (like the new forum software) but would be nice in my opinion.  Smiley

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November 23, 2019, 10:19:51 PM
Last edit: November 23, 2019, 10:58:32 PM by hosseinimr93
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Right now, it’s not possible to quote a post from a locked topic because we can’t reply. Quoting from locked topics could be useful sometimes to refer to a normal quote like it’s possible for every unlocked topic. I know, it’s also a solution to just quote the text and add a link manually but that wouldn’t include the date of the quoted post and need more time to type the author, especially for multiple quotes.
I am in favor of enabling quotes in locked topics. But you can use epochconverter for adding the time of quoted post.
Enter the exact time the post was created and click on "Human date to Timestamp" button. Then Epoch timestamp will be shown.

Here is the code for quoting the post you referred to.

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[quote author=theymos link=topic=5193860.msg53152306#msg53152306 date=1574458668]


 
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November 23, 2019, 11:42:38 PM
Last edit: November 24, 2019, 09:44:40 AM by LTU_btc
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I am in favor of enabling quotes in locked topics. But you can use epochconverter for adding the time of quoted post.
Enter the exact time the post was created and click on "Human date to Timestamp" button. Then Epoch timestamp will be shown.

Yeah, there is some alternative methods to quote from locked topics, but I think that they require too much hassle. Simple solution would be really needed. Because we often need to quote from locked topics, especially when we are talking about historic topics. Personally when I need to do it, I just copy text, insert it into quote tag and add link to original post above or under quote. For me it's simpliest way to quote from locked topic.




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November 24, 2019, 12:09:51 AM
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This was also my problem yesterday. Simply copying the text from the post in a lock topic will not copy its format in bbcode.

This is very time consuming especially when you are making or posting very important notice in a thread or just lazy to edit the entire text with same format of the quoted post.

 
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This was also my problem yesterday. Simply copying the text from the post in a lock topic will not copy its format in bbcode.

This is very time consuming especially when you are making or posting very important notice in a thread or just lazy to edit the entire text with same format of the quoted post.

There is a fairly easy workaround for that. Hit the "quote" button on any post, e.g. a post in the thread that you're posting in. Replace post ID in the URL (find quote=MMM and replace the MMM) with the ID of the post you want to quote from the locked thread. You'll get the bbcode. To complete the quote you'll also need to replace the whole link (topic=TTT.msgMMM#msgMMM) in the quote tag. Author and timestamp are good.

A bit of a hassle but worked fine the few times that I needed it and I wouldn't want to postpone the new forum software by 3 more years while the OP's suggestion gets implemented here Grin

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This happens to me a few times also and would be realy nice to get this option.
But i guess we will not get it , as i remember there was already some kind of thread of that suggestion for it and its a long time ago.

But the hope dies at the last.

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November 24, 2019, 06:05:47 AM
Last edit: November 24, 2019, 06:23:48 AM by tranthidung
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Sometimes, I feel inconvenient with locked topics because I can not fully quote posts inside.
Sometimes, I think the disable of quote button in locked topics make sense. It help to reduce drama. People tend to more lazily to spend time to self-compose quotes from locked topics.




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November 24, 2019, 06:23:24 AM
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I think the simple changes in this forum may take some time so it is better to rely on some alternative solutions.

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Here[1] are some snaps that explain how this can be done. thanks @shahzadafzal

Does anyone know how to do an image quote? Or at least find out the "https://i.imgur.com/" link to the pictures, I get a URL that starts with https://ip.bitcointalk.org/ when I click on "copy image address."
Can this be done using userscripts?
[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4144474.msg38212859#msg38212859

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Last edit: November 24, 2019, 10:08:46 AM by tranthidung
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I did it 2 or 3 days ago, and I discovered that method has its disadvantages:
For example, you want to quote posts of poster A:
(1) If poster A deletes that post, then the image link you get will be invalid.
(2) If poster A changes avatar to new one, then the image link you get to image of previous avatar will be invalid. In fact, it will be changed to the current one.

(1) My post
The image link I used is
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[img width=400]https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FxlxgP5x.jpg&t=607&c=XSlkMHNg6kYJMw[/img]

(2) In that topic, in early versions of OP, I was lazy and use direct links to avatars of users who made or worn those avatars. Then, I saw avatars in my OP changed, and I found out reasons. After that, I had to download their avatars, and uploaded to imgur, then posted imgur links to OP.
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November 24, 2019, 06:36:43 AM
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For everyone who has experienced this, I know how you feel. Lol.

Anyways what I normally do is just use the link of that post and somehow give a gist of what I want to quote in there. Just by clicking on the #49321059 on the post and pasting it as a reference. This is when I quote in bitcointalk.

For other articles, I just put the author with the link, maybe you could use this too. Using the link coming from #59152874915 and posting that

Code:
[quote author=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=524305108750251][/quote]
[quote author=https://article.com/123456789][/quote]

P.S. Those are random numbers only

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November 24, 2019, 06:46:44 PM
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But you can use epochconverter for adding the time of quoted post.

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Here[1] are some snaps that explain how this can be done. thanks @shahzadafzal

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4144474.msg38212859#msg38212859
Nice tools, I wasn't aware about their existence. That should solve the problem for long and specially formatted topics. However, the procedure is still quite complicated and I guess most users don't know about it (including myself)  Cheesy

For everyone who has experienced this, I know how you feel. Lol.

Anyways what I normally do is just use the link of that post and somehow give a gist of what I want to quote in there. Just by clicking on the #49321059 on the post and pasting it as a reference. This is when I quote in bitcointalk.
Same here, I'm copying the text (unformatted) and post a link to the original post in the locked topic. It's working but I like normal (real) quotes much more...

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November 27, 2019, 04:53:51 AM
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Does anyone know how to do an image quote? Or at least find out the "https://i.imgur.com/" link to the pictures, I get a URL that starts with https://ip.bitcointalk.org/ when I click on "copy image address."

Yeah... the imgur link is actually embedded in the ip.bitcointalk.org URLs...

Taking the link to the first image in the OP as an example: https ://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FmBsrI4Z.jpg&t=607&c=1NdT52aa5A3yJw

Extract the embedded URL (the bolded section): https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FmBsrI4Z.jpg

Convert the 'encoded' symbols using the following:
%3A => :
%2F => /

=> https://i.imgur.com/mBsrI4Z.jpg

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Taking the link to the first image in the OP as an example: https ://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FmBsrI4Z.jpg&t=607&c=1NdT52aa5A3yJw

Extract the embedded URL (the bolded section): https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FmBsrI4Z.jpg

Convert the 'encoded' symbols using the following:
%3A => :
%2F => /

=> https://i.imgur.com/mBsrI4Z.jpg
So that's how it is, sometimes really I experience this one especially if the thread is locked and can't be quoted and just open a new tab or copy the image address of it but still goes through decoding that link and I didn't know what they mean, really helpful HCP.



I know, it’s also a solution to just quote the text and add a link manually but that wouldn’t include the date of the quoted post and need more time to type the author, especially for multiple quotes.
Yeah, it's a hassle especially if you don't know to manually add the needed text to make it like the original quoted message, what I really do is really manual and the most hassle part is adding the date so I reach for help in this website http://www.onlineconversion.com/unix_time.htm it is same as epochconverter.[/quote]

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November 27, 2019, 06:41:27 AM
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A simple workaround would be just copying and pasting the contents inside the quote=author tags

While it might be a nice feature to add, there's a reason why the topic stays lock and hence, quotes/ replies are not allowed Smiley

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November 27, 2019, 06:51:42 AM
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Well for this, a simple workaround would do, with some extra effort of copying and pasting:

Code:
[quote=author][/quote]

It just takes several extra seconds. A little bit of a hassle but not much of a big deal.

This doesn't include the username of the poster, the link to the quoted post and the time that post has been created.
You should use the following code instead.

Code:
[quote author=X link=topic=Y date=Z]

X: the username of poster
Y: Click on the post you want to quote and copy what exists after "topic="
Z: Use epochconverter. Enter the exact time the post has been created and copy "Epoch timestamp"

 
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November 27, 2019, 06:55:32 AM
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This doesn't include the username of the poster, the link to the quoted post and the time that post has been created.
You should use the following code instead.

Code:
[quote author=X link=topic=Y date=Z]

X: the username of poster
Y: Click on the post you want to quote and copy what exists after "topic="
Z: Use epochconverter. Enter the exact time the post has been created and copy "Epoch timestamp"

Shoot, you managed to quote my previous revision. :p

The one you showed would do, although I'm more familiar with the simpler copypasta approach.

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November 28, 2019, 09:05:42 AM
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I still think this should be implemented in the forum.
The problem I face today is posting some connected accounts and all the proof is in locked topics. Editing manually all those quoted posts is just waste of time.

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November 30, 2019, 08:03:34 PM
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Supporting this.
The problem I face today is posting some connected accounts and all the proof is in locked topics. Editing manually all those quoted posts is just waste of time.
I know exactly that feeling, I got headache too many times when quoting post and then c/p author then numbers...oh, then archive everything because posts tend to disappear. When I am too lazy to do all this, I just quote post and c/p link under quotation.

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November 30, 2019, 08:43:47 PM
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Is it possible to implement? It’s not super important (like the new forum software) but would be nice in my opinion.  Smiley
We must know that it is possible but will theymos decide to apply it?
Now, the only thing we can do is waiting for his response. Let hope that some suggestions above can trigger the expected decision.  Smiley

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