MegaDice SCAM, over 19 BTC stolen

[newalias]

Oh, something incredible happened, MegaDice has answered after six weeks!

Regarding the scam accusations, as we stated previously, the main reason that the user lost all his funds, was because he kept on gambling.
Megadice (we) was slow to replenish the hot wallet with funds, and this is indeed something we need to improve.

The user "newalias" made a fantastic win, as you can see from his comments, but then he should have waited for us to refill the hot wallet. He kept on gambling and kept on winning, but unfortunately he did not stop and eventually he lost all his wins. We have kept all the logins, the IPs, User Agent and the user's calls, and we can prove exactly and per-timestamp his calls on Satoshislot. We are also in direct contact with the Curacao eGaming, for this matter, and provided all the info they needed.

That is bullshit. I not kept gambling.

Did you need six weeks to fake some logs - which you do not provide at any place yet? You are answering after six weeks (!!!) stating that it is my fault and you are not scamming. Seriously?

Something really weird is going on there with the account "Cracker06868":

https://www.megadice.com/user/182c2bd7a19e2b7573dbd1b88bc1e022

He placed not much money (maybe 0.1 BTC or so) and won around 2 BTC.

EDIT:
I would say we can agree on an amount acceptable for both parties, but I won 19 BTC regularly and I am not willing to renounce the money that is due to me and allow you to continue scamming users.

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EDIT2:

Now the user just won 9.264 BTC with 0.06 BTC bet.  

There are strange things going on your site. It is all about manipulation.

Maybe MegaDice should provide evidence for their cold wallet...

This is outstanding since years. Maybe it is a good time showing that you are able to pay wins like 19 BTC?

EDIT:
I would say we can agree on an amount acceptable for both parties, but I won 19 BTC regularly and I am not willing to renounce the money that is due to me and allow you to continue scamming users.

EDIT 2:
Forget about the six weeks, it was ten weeks! Ridiculous! Scam accusation thread was opened later.

Where is my money?
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[game-protect]

We are also in direct contact with the regulatory authority, Curacao eGaming, and provided all they proof they wanted/needed, including the IPs and every other info we have about this user.

Curacao eGaming is an anonymous venture, partner in crime and they neither supervise you nor take any responsibility for scams committed by criminal online casinos!

They are also not an authority!

[MegaDice]

That is bullshit. I not kept gambling.

Did you need six weeks to fake some logs - which you do not provide at any place yet? You are answering after six weeks (!!!) stating that it is my fault and you are not scamming. Seriously?

We understand that the lack of support was very dissapointing but we are trying hard to do progress now and change this. Fortunately for Megadice, there is no need to "fake logs" since the traces on AWS server (were the slots are) and on the Wallet Operator side is the only proof we need. You may say that Megadice is claiming anything, but in the end, if there are logs inside the AWS control panel, of your IP, OS and API calls, then there is nothing more to say or prove. We are already talking with Curacao eGaming authority, and providing them with all the data they need.

I would say we can agree on an amount acceptable for both parties, but I won 19 BTC regularly and I am not willing to renounce the money that is due to me and allow you to continue scamming users.

Unfortunately im afraid that we cannot do this. You have been winning a lot, but instead of stopping and waiting, you run out of luck.
Besides, if you have stopped at 19BTC we would have paid the coins, and im sure you would not negotiate any "lower" amount than 19BTC.
So, according to you:
When you win big -> Megadice is legit and must pay winnings
But when you lose big-> Megadice is scam and must negotiate to pay something at least!?

The last year we had numerous investors withdrawing a lot of funds, and we have paid every single one of them. There has been no reports or anything against Megadice and its inability to return funds (even with some big delays, yes..).


Furthermore, here you may find every single spin you made on Satoshislot.
Balance and Bet Values are in mBTC
start_balance - after the bet
end_balance - after the win

It is obvious that after you got at 19BTC balance, you made another 2310 rounds until you completely lost all your balance.

[newalias]

So, according to you:
When you win big -> Megadice is legit and must pay winnings
But when you lose big-> Megadice is scam and must negotiate to pay something at least!?

No. According to me, I did not gambled my money away. And I know what I did and what I did not.

Furthermore, here you may find every single spin you made on Satoshislot

I do not need to spend time in validating files you created yourself in the last 10 weeks. 10 weeks for a casino support, it would be funny if you were not stealing my money.

Maybe MegaDice should provide evidence for their cold wallet...

This is outstanding since years. Maybe it is a good time showing that you are able to pay wins like 19 BTC?

What about that?

[game-protect]

If you plan to enforce your 19 BTC through legal action, then you should request the logs from your internet provider to prove that you were not logged in at megadice.com when the losing bets were made!

[MegaDice]

So, according to you:
When you win big -> Megadice is legit and must pay winnings
But when you lose big-> Megadice is scam and must negotiate to pay something at least!?

No. According to me, I did not gambled my money away. And I know what I did and what I did not.

Furthermore, here you may find every single spin you made on Satoshislot

I do not need to spend time in validating files you created yourself in the last 10 weeks. 10 weeks for a casino support, it would be funny if you were not stealing my money.

Maybe MegaDice should provide evidence for their cold wallet...

This is outstanding since years. Maybe it is a good time showing that you are able to pay wins like 19 BTC?

What about that?

The attached logs are taken directly from our AWS server, which is were the slotgames are. Logs are taken from that server, and also we are open to give on public the IPs, User Agent of each and every call that this user made. The ISP of "newalias" could verify if those are legit or not, i suppose  . As i stated above, we have already sent those to the Curacao eGaming and we will also send it to any supervisor that may ask them. It is very unethical that 'newalias' is still trying to defame MegaDice by threatening us and trying to label us as scammers. He continued gambling, made more than 2000 rounds after his 19BTC win, and eventually he lost them all.

Regarding our hot wallet, we are having indeed delays refilling it, and we are trying to fix this so that the hot wallet will get refilled "automatically", so to speak. By the way, yesterday we processed withdrawals of over 18 BTC, mostly for our investors but also for some players ( that were suffering from the Empty hot wallet issue).
Our main goal is to be more active here and in the support emails, and i think we are slowly doing some progress.

[newalias]

The attached logs are taken directly from our AWS server, which is were the slotgames are. Logs are taken from that server, and also we are open to give on public the IPs, User Agent of each and every call that this user made.

I agree on that.

Regarding our hot wallet, we are having indeed delays refilling it, and we are trying to fix this so that the hot wallet will get refilled "automatically", so to speak. By the way, yesterday we processed withdrawals of over 18 BTC, mostly for our investors but also for some players ( that were suffering from the Empty hot wallet issue).

You are still ignoring my request to prove funds. Where is the problem, preventing you from even answering to this request? In your initial post years ago, it was no problem to prove 200 BTC funds, and now it is?

Figures from your system are not transparent, the blockchain is. Th 18 BTC withdrawals stated can be fictitious, as your log files are.

EDIT:

Something very important that we need to mention is that Satoshislot is a provable fair game. How someone can play Satoshislot in the first place, and then claim that we (the operator) scammed him. Satoshislot's provable fair mechanism is publicly available and users can verify each and every round on their own.

So a very crucial question arises: If the user really thought that Megadice was scamming him, why he did not just check his rounds, before and after the spin ?

Just to make sure your technical understanding is sufficient: Your provable fair algorithm allows the player to verify each spin of SatoshiSlot. I do not claim that the outcome of spins were faked. I claim that you adjusted my balance to 0 (and blame spins that I never did), that is something your provable fair verification is not able to cover, as it happens solely in your pages database.

Your argument and your "very crucial question" is just nonsense.

[2double0]

@newalias,
Why didn't you take a screenshot asking your withdrawal of BTC19? I know you were not aware of the deed that was going to be done by MegaDice (according to you).
Why did you go to game-protect, that mentally bruteforced pottyeater for your claim? You know that guy/girl/transgender never helps anyone but just tries to distract and put your case out of order!

[newalias]

Why didn't you take a screenshot asking your withdrawal of BTC19? I know you were not aware of the deed that was going to be done by MegaDice (according to you).

What exactly do you mean? Here are some screenshot, and I saved the communication:

https://drive.google.com/drive/u/1/folders/1qitfa9xWBHiRLfak0YPaVxIWEmOnCLdH?usp=sharing

Why did you go to game-protect, that mentally bruteforced pottyeater for your claim? You know that guy/girl/transgender never helps anyone but just tries to distract and put your case out of order!

I have NOT instructed game-protect to help me. He is spamming the threads on his own.

[AlexSimion]

Why didn't you take a screenshot asking your withdrawal of BTC19? I know you were not aware of the deed that was going to be done by MegaDice (according to you).

What exactly do you mean? Here are some screenshot, and I saved the communication:

https://drive.google.com/drive/u/1/folders/1qitfa9xWBHiRLfak0YPaVxIWEmOnCLdH?usp=sharing

Why did you go to game-protect, that mentally bruteforced pottyeater for your claim? You know that guy/girl/transgender never helps anyone but just tries to distract and put your case out of order!

I have NOT instructed game-protect to help me. He is spamming the threads on his own.

What I don't see is a withdrawal request for the 19 BTC .  I can see you've made screenshots of the small withdrawals , why you didn't make one of the 19 BTC ? I assume when you ask for a withdrawal , even if the hot wallet is empty , the amount should get deducted from your balance and get transferred once the hot wallet is replenished ?

[newalias]

What I don't see is a withdrawal request for the 19 BTC .  I can see you've made screenshots of the small withdrawals , why you didn't make one of the 19 BTC ? I assume when you ask for a withdrawal , even if the hot wallet is empty , the amount should get deducted from your balance and get transferred once the hot wallet is replenished ?

No, the withdrawal is declined automatically by the system and not recorded.

[AlexSimion]

If you consider online gaming consumer protetion service as spamming, it does not look like you will get anything fom Megadice!

Just because you call yourself online gaming consumer protetion  ( I assume you were trying to say online gambling consumer protection) doesn't mean you are one .
I've never dealt with you on any topic personally but recently being more active here it was impossible for me not to stumble on some of your posts . Which are all the same , you're lurking in the shadows "preying" on victims of online casinos ( Don't know if you actually get anywhere as it seems no one is taking you serious anymore ).
But you can simply prove me wrong and all the members who provided negative feedback to you . Show us relevant proof , documents etc ( as you always advertise you enforce user's claims to casinos via lawyers , legal channels etc ) that you've actually helped people recover their money .

P.S.  - When will you give h4ns the loan back ?

[TMAN]

megadice has 0 credibility here due to taking 6 weeks to provide any information - how do we know this isn't faked?

we need solid proof and without it I am siding with OP, whats the consensus here ?

[Slow death]

Our main goal is to be more active here and in the support emails, and i think we are slowly doing some progress.

it's good to hear that, but you can provide proof of that:

He continued gambling, made more than 2000 rounds after his 19BTC win, and eventually he lost them all.

this case has a long time and needs to be resolved

whats the consensus here ?

I'm still on the OP side

[newalias]

Lets talk about cold wallet again. Years ago, MegaDice provided signatures for cold wallets that are completely empty at the time of writing:

MegaDice Bitcoin Cold Storage Dddress (NOT FOR DEPOSITING)
~200 BTC Hash: 185xU8AfF6GEGnBNs63ELCuR1eh9iL5JJH
Message: MD Cold Storage
Signature: H2Mp8hIzjDcLPMeZO8xTISIe4Hmbd47SuRN4irSBthSzShxh43o+mCxqamjRNOF/sm7NtUJuBR13waw7PGBH9K4=

So, it should be no problem for MegaDice to provide new cold wallet signatures, as they state a cold wallet exist. That was asked for months ago:

Maybe MegaDice should provide evidence for their cold wallet...

MegaDice woke up a week ago, after sleeping for months:

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The request to provide cold wallet proof was issued several times:

Maybe MegaDice should provide evidence for their cold wallet...

This is outstanding since years. Maybe it is a good time showing that you are able to pay wins like 19 BTC?

Maybe MegaDice should provide evidence for their cold wallet...

This is outstanding since years. Maybe it is a good time showing that you are able to pay wins like 19 BTC?

What about that?

You are still ignoring my request to prove funds. Where is the problem, preventing you from even answering to this request? In your initial post years ago, it was no problem to prove 200 BTC funds, and now it is?

Figures from your system are not transparent, the blockchain is. Th 18 BTC withdrawals stated can be fictitious, as your log files are.

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These requests were completely ignored by MegaDice. 4 days ago, they said they want to publish something:

We will work towards posting publicly the cold storage and we are already working on fixing the long delays between refilling.

They posted again and again, without providing any proof. Very fishy.

[JollyGood]

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For full reference, please view the thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1828431.msg52926209#msg52926209

I have created some flag to have users adviced when searching for MegaDice, unfortunately it is invalid as I just registered to post in the MegaDice thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1000

UPDATE 26 Nov
Screenshots can be find here, proving win and balance:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1qitfa9xWBHiRLfak0YPaVxIWEmOnCLdH?usp=sharing

I have supported the flag.

This situation has gone on almost 12 weeks and seems somewhat hard to believe when they still have not provided evidence you gambled away19 BTC but cannot provide proof. What is this nonsense they state about wallet not being topped up?

On the surface it seems like you accumulated over 19 BTC in wins but they claim you gambled it away whereas you dispute this.

The user MegaDice mentions several times their wallet was not being topped up during that period as some kind of reason that would stop you from either winning, losing or betting and I am confused as to why they would say it along with stating they sent off various bits of information Curacao eGaming but they cannot show any evidence here of you betting 2000 rounds (as they claim) after you won 19 BTC.

They have not provided evidence to counter your claim and my support of the flag will stay until or unless they have given grounds to suggest they are not liable for the theft of 19 BTC.

[newalias]

I ask anyone reading this to save the gamelogs provided by MegaDice with the originating URL on his computer for evidence, as I have found several inconsistencies. Thank you!

Furthermore, here you may find every single spin you made on Satoshislot.
Balance and Bet Values are in mBTC
"start_balance" means the balance of the user before each spin
"after_balance" is the result after the spin (thus including the win/loss amount).

You should explain how exactly your logs are working, especially "start_balance" and "after_balance" (correctly, it is named "end_balance"). For example:

Code:

{
	"round_id" : "34fa42a670617c40f04ae6fac2",
	"time" : "2019-10-29 19:08:48",
	"bet" : 10.00,
	"win" : 0.00000000,
	"start_balance" : 206.19000000,
	"end_balance" : 206.19000000
}

How can "start_balance" be the same as "end_balance", when a bet is made and there was no win? The win needs to be "10" to have the same balance before and after the bet.

[AlexSimion]

Why don't go with all of this to a lawyer ? I mean we're talking about over 150,000$  . Surely you can find a decent lawyer to represent you . If they're claiming you continued to spin on that slot , then a legal action from you will force the slot manufacturer to release the game records for your session . And like this you can easily prove it.
I'm not trying to say that they did or did not scam you , but it's also a possibility that they might be right , and you did continue playing .

[newalias]

Why don't go with all of this to a lawyer ? I mean we're talking about over 150,000$  . Surely you can find a decent lawyer to represent you . If they're claiming you continued to spin on that slot , then a legal action from you will force the slot manufacturer to release the game records for your session . And like this you can easily prove it.
I'm not trying to say that they did or did not scam you , but it's also a possibility that they might be right , and you did continue playing .

The slot is developed and hosted by Rakki, the company behind MegaDice. They are able to manipulate logs.

About the lawyer, please see my last answer to your question:

Why don't you get a lawyer and go after them ? It's a huge amount of $ .

Yeah, but Rakki N.V. is based in Curaçao, maybe for a good reason. This means that I have to throw money away in order to sue them. Obviously, they are bankrupt.

Nevertheless, I am thinking about that. I am not a poor man and sueing them should prevent them from stealing more money from other customers.

[AlexSimion]

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The slot is developed and hosted by Rakki, the company behind MegaDice. They are able to manipulate logs.

About the lawyer, please see my last answer to your question:

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Yeah, but Rakki N.V. is based in Curaçao, maybe for a good reason. This means that I have to throw money away in order to sue them. Obviously, they are bankrupt.

Nevertheless, I am thinking about that. I am not a poor man and sueing them should prevent them from stealing more money from other customers.

Oh , then indeed that's kind of bad news if they're actually the manufacturor of said slot .  And honestly I believe sueing them would be your best option in any case . Though it will be a bit tricky as they can manipulate the logs at any time.