MegaDice SCAM, over 19 BTC stolen

[JollyGood]

I hope it does not come to a Court case or anything like that but MegaDice is fast losing whatever respect they might have had in the past.

They have dragged this issue out for around 3 months and ruined their reputation in the process but they can still walk away from this with some dignity by accepting something went wrong in their logs and they settle the full amount to the OP.

This has been a public relations disaster for MegaDice, better they try to salvage their reputation now rather than this issue remain unresolved much longer. I hope they do it so we can all be happy with the result and move on.

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[MegaDice]

I ask anyone reading this to save the gamelogs provided by MegaDice with the originating URL on his computer for evidence, as I have found several inconsistencies. Thank you!

Furthermore, here you may find every single spin you made on Satoshislot.
Balance and Bet Values are in mBTC
"start_balance" means the balance of the user before each spin
"after_balance" is the result after the spin (thus including the win/loss amount).

You should explain how exactly your logs are working, especially "start_balance" and "after_balance" (correctly, it is named "end_balance"). For example:

Code:

{
	"round_id" : "34fa42a670617c40f04ae6fac2",
	"time" : "2019-10-29 19:08:48",
	"bet" : 10.00,
	"win" : 0.00000000,
	"start_balance" : 206.19000000,
	"end_balance" : 206.19000000
}

How can "start_balance" be the same as "end_balance", when a bet is made and there was no win? The win needs to be "10" to have the same balance before and after the bet.

Sorry my mistake in "word":
start_balance - after the bet
end_balance - after the win


We are also going to post the direct ACCESS_LOGS of your calls, which includes your IP too. Do we have your permission to post these here online ?

[game-protect]

During the legal proceeding the lawyer can request the server logs from AWS directly and then the truth would come to light.

[TMAN]

How can "start_balance" be the same as "end_balance", when a bet is made and there was no win? The win needs to be "10" to have the same balance before and after the bet.

the above - you have fudged the logs and not actually done the maths.

fucking shitty sites

Directed @ the site not OP!

[MegaDice]

How can "start_balance" be the same as "end_balance", when a bet is made and there was no win? The win needs to be "10" to have the same balance before and after the bet.

the above - you have fudged the logs and not actually done the maths.

fucking shitty sites

Directed @ the site not OP!

EDIT:
HERE IS AN EXAMPLE SO THAT EVERYONE WILL UNDERSTAND THE LOGS...

EXAMPLE:

• newalias has balance of 1.1 BTC
• newalias bets 0.1BTC on this spin
• newalias loses the bet.

The above EXAMPLE will have this round log:
   {
      "round_id" : "ROUND_ID",
      "time" : "DATE",
      "bet" : 100.00,
      "win" : 0.00000000,
      "start_balance" : 1000.00000000,
      "end_balance" : 1000.00000000
   },

start_balance - The balance after the bet
end_balance - The balance after the win


You have been saying "fucking shitty sites" and not actually read my message above which unfortunately means that you dont really read any proof that we post and your opinion is biased

[TMAN]

Its just a mistake in the word  .
start_balance - after the bet
end_balance - after the win

You have been saying "fucking shitty sites" and not actually read my message above which unfortunately means that you dont really read any proof that we post and your opinion is biased

the word you typed - same as the amounts you typed... re read the posts above you wanktard - fucking idiot you cant even do maths.. if you are going to fabricate bets at least spend 30 seconds to check the numbers are correct and reasonable fucking dickcheese

[newalias]

During the legal proceeding the lawyer can request the server logs from AWS directly and then the truth would come to light.

I am not sure about that, as I do not know their setup. If they just use EC2 or something like that, the logs are saved only on their own server.

How can "start_balance" be the same as "end_balance", when a bet is made and there was no win? The win needs to be "10" to have the same balance before and after the bet.

That is what TMAN means. You ignored my request to explain that, as you always ignore requests that make you problems (cold storage...).

EDIT:
Logs have been archived: https://archive.is/FRTs3

[JollyGood]

During the legal proceeding the lawyer can request the server logs from AWS directly and then the truth would come to light.

I am not sure about that, as I do not know their setup. If they just use EC2 or something like that, the logs are saved only on their own server.

How can "start_balance" be the same as "end_balance", when a bet is made and there was no win? The win needs to be "10" to have the same balance before and after the bet.

That is what TMAN means. You ignored my request to explain that, as you always ignore requests that make you problems (cold storage...).

EDIT:
Logs have been archived: https://archive.is/FRTs3

Oooops!

It seems like someone forgot to change the figures after copying and pasting.....  

Having said that I scrolled through at random on the archive link and noticed not all bets the same start/end balance - strange:

Code:

	{
		"round_id" : "5002262833f66030bacd63d1a2",
		"time" : "2019-10-30 17:41:51",
		"bet" : 40.00,
		"win" : 16.00000000,
		"start_balance" : 73.89000000,
		"end_balance" : 89.89000000
	},
	{
		"round_id" : "ff01864f71aa1a61f96c415d26",
		"time" : "2019-10-30 17:41:47",
		"bet" : 40.00,
		"win" : 0.00000000,
		"start_balance" : 113.89000000,
		"end_balance" : 113.89000000
	},
	{
		"round_id" : "5036715e3409f4172004bdf71a",
		"time" : "2019-10-30 17:41:41",
		"bet" : 40.00,
		"win" : 30.40000000,
		"start_balance" : 123.49000000,
		"end_balance" : 153.89000000
	},
	{
		"round_id" : "7d52885298eb6f115aa76e9e59",
		"time" : "2019-10-30 17:41:36",
		"bet" : 40.00,
		"win" : 4.80000000,
		"start_balance" : 158.69000000,
		"end_balance" : 163.49000000
	},
	{
		"round_id" : "2a8884b1ddcc7a8a191ab35790",
		"time" : "2019-10-30 17:41:32",
		"bet" : 40.00,
		"win" : 0.00000000,
		"start_balance" : 198.69000000,
		"end_balance" : 198.69000000
	},
	{
		"round_id" : "840af4935b7ed3c149149a3bf8",
		"time" : "2019-10-30 17:41:26",
		"bet" : 40.00,
		"win" : 12.80000000,
		"start_balance" : 225.89000000,
		"end_balance" : 238.69000000
	},
	{
		"round_id" : "83f559e1623128786a5e4cb898",
		"time" : "2019-10-30 17:41:21",
		"bet" : 40.00,
		"win" : 8.00000000,
		"start_balance" : 257.89000000,
		"end_balance" : 265.89000000
	},
	{
		"round_id" : "f548d8e99f511add5c7b2fbe80",
		"time" : "2019-10-30 17:41:17",
		"bet" : 40.00,
		"win" : 0.00000000,
		"start_balance" : 297.89000000,
		"end_balance" : 297.89000000
	},
	{
		"round_id" : "381a3620a29baffe9d99e3c6d6",
		"time" : "2019-10-30 17:41:12",
		"bet" : 40.00,
		"win" : 6.40000000,
		"start_balance" : 331.49000000,
		"end_balance" : 337.89000000
	},
	{
		"round_id" : "b39f77591df5a14d69c7841065",
		"time" : "2019-10-30 17:41:09",
		"bet" : 40.00,
		"win" : 0.00000000,
		"start_balance" : 371.49000000,
		"end_balance" : 371.49000000
	},
	{
		"round_id" : "1c5e3c52979346aaa0534a29e2",
		"time" : "2019-10-30 17:41:04",
		"bet" : 40.00,
		"win" : 16.00000000,
		"start_balance" : 395.49000000,
		"end_balance" : 411.49000000
	},

I would still recommend that MegaDice please reconsider their position. If they simply cite this was a case of misunderstanding and some technical or human error and release the funds owed to the OP, then I am sure the OP will not be posting about this subject again and we can all continue as before.

Maybe something happened, maybe something went wrong and they have stated the OP is not due the 19+ BTC. I hope this matter is not going to get dragged out over a long period of time.

Please MegaDice, is there a way this issue can be resolved between you and the OP which results in the OP receiving the 19+ BTC that he is entitled to and completed sooner rather than later?

[TMAN]

Megadice megascam megacunts,.

Faking shit is proper scummy and you deserve no business on this forum

[newalias]

Well, he should have stopped gambling but since he was winning he may have thought that he can win even more than 19BTC. He started very low and then he had many chances to stop at 6BTC, then at 12BTC and then at 19BTC. Many gamblers would have stopped at 6BTC, almost everyone at 12BTC and for sure everyone at 19BTC.

You missed out one thing: I tried to make these balances round (6.00 BTC, 12.00 BTC) and got free spins very fast again. This catapulted me to almost 20 BTC, which is a huge amount of money. After having this unbelievable luck two times, I stopped gambling. And I am able to swear that and testify it under oath.

I would still recommend that MegaDice please reconsider their position. If they simply cite this was a case of misunderstanding and some technical or human error and release the funds owed to the OP, then I am sure the OP will not be posting about this subject again and we can all continue as before.

Maybe something happened, maybe something went wrong and they have stated the OP is not due the 19+ BTC. I hope this matter is not going to get dragged out over a long period of time.

Please MegaDice, is there a way this issue can be resolved between you and the OP which results in the OP receiving the 19+ BTC that he is entitled to and completed sooner rather than later?

There is no proof at all that MegaDice is even able to pay that amount of Bitcoin. They ignored all requests about proving cold storage. I think they just run out of funds, they are just not able to pay. I do not know why they are posting here, maybe they want to rehabilitate their page to finance their livelihood - who knows.

As I invested more than enough time in this case, I make you one final offer, attached to an ultimatum: You pay me the amount of 15 BTC. I am able to renounce on the rest, just because it saves me time, nerves and money. Maybe that is an amount you can pay, but I will not go under it. This is a thing I can come towards you, even though there is no reason for it.

You have 72 hours starting now to pay me. Everyone can track it on the blockchain, as the blockchain is transparent (your site is not). If the payment is received, I will delete the flag, as I would forgave the act because it is a step in the right direction. My bitcoin address is 1M2utnNJMCv9uCVoG5CBXyLyqShx9D5A85.

If you decide against the payment, just let me say that I have done another decision for that case: I will mandate a lawyer. I am in Bitcoin since several years, so I have the money to conduct legal proceedings in Curacao. I do not know how it is in Curacao, but in Germany, there mostly is no clear winner of court process - in the end, both parties have to make concessions. But a court process will allow me to check in detail your "evidence", having specialists checking all your fishy logs. And if you are lying again in the court process, this will also have personal consequences for you, as it is a crime in the most jurisdictions (and I am sure you already committed several crimes like fraud with your answers and fake logs). Last but not least, I will stop you from operating MegaDice. Either Curacao eGaming will revoke your license after this, or your company is not able to pay and will be insolvent. If you are still not paying your debts and spreading fake news, I will fuck you. Sorry about that, but I am really fucked up about your behavior and being cheated by some fools that think they are smarter than anyone else.

[TMAN]

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start a thread in investigations bud, I am sure some of the clever guys here will be able to dox the owners. keep it all in the investigations sub though, any dox posted outside of there is against the rules.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=227.0

don't engage twatprotect no matter how nice the offer sounds,

best of luck

[MegaDice]

During the legal proceeding the lawyer can request the server logs from AWS directly and then the truth would come to light.

I am not sure about that, as I do not know their setup. If they just use EC2 or something like that, the logs are saved only on their own server.

How can "start_balance" be the same as "end_balance", when a bet is made and there was no win? The win needs to be "10" to have the same balance before and after the bet.

That is what TMAN means. You ignored my request to explain that, as you always ignore requests that make you problems (cold storage...).

EDIT:
Logs have been archived: https://archive.is/FRTs3

There is nothing we ignore. We already mentioned above what the start_balance and end_balance means, but lets do it one more time with an example...

EXAMPLE:

• newalias has balance of 1.1 BTC
• newalias bets 0.1BTC on this spin
• newalias loses the bet.

The above EXAMPLE will have this round log:
   {
      "round_id" : "ROUND_ID",
      "time" : "DATE",
      "bet" : 100.00,
      "win" : 0.00000000,
      "start_balance" : 1000.00000000,
      "end_balance" : 1000.00000000
   },

In case you missed it, the above values are in mBTC.
1BTC=1000mbtc
0.1BTC=100mbtc

START_BALANCE is the balance AFTER the wager.
END_BALANCE is the balance AFTER the win.

Let me know if there is anything else you may want us to explain.

[game-protect]

During the legal proceeding the lawyer can request the server logs from AWS directly and then the truth would come to light.

I am not sure about that, as I do not know their setup. If they just use EC2 or something like that, the logs are saved only on their own server.

AWS is based in the US and has to store the server logs for a while by laws. The lawyer can request it with a subpoena if necessary.

But first Megadice needs to prove that you continued to play, what I have not seen so far.

I only have seen code every coder could write with hands. Maybe that is why they needed so long to answer!

Megadice is obligated by Curacao online casino laws to store your betting history for a while and forward it on request.

Where are the server logs?

Here is info about Amazon EC2

The Amazon EC2 instances in your Elastic Beanstalk environment generate logs that you can view to troubleshoot issues with your application or configuration files. Logs created by the web server, application server, Elastic Beanstalk platform scripts, and AWS CloudFormation are stored locally on individual instances. You can easily retrieve them by using the environment management console or the EB CLI. You can also configure your environment to stream logs to Amazon CloudWatch Logs in real time.

[MegaDice]

We are in constant and in direct communication with Curacao eGaming Regulator. We are supplying them with the Round Logs, Wallet Operator Logs, and Official Amazon AWS logs. Those logs (Amazon's) reside built-in the Amazon infrastructure, meaning that Amazon could verify its integrity.
The Amazon logs are consistent with our Wallet and Round logs.

MegaDice are deeply concerned for the privacy of each player, thus posting the Amazon's full logs in this forum would expose private information and other players Data/IPs. This is something we do not want to do.

If "newalias" would like to get ahold of each and every log, he can contact directly the Official Regulator (Curacao eGaming) and ask them about logs, they get anything they ask  for from us.

[game-protect]

We are in constant and in direct communication with Curacao eGaming Regulator. We are supplying them with the Round Logs, Wallet Operator Logs, and Official Amazon AWS logs. Those logs (Amazon's) reside built-in the Amazon infrastructure, meaning that Amazon could verify its integrity.
The Amazon logs are consistent with our Wallet and Round logs.

My statement referred to the official Amazon AWS logs.

MegaDice are deeply concerned for the privacy of each player, thus posting the Amazon's full logs in this forum would expose private information and other players Data/IPs. This is something we do not want to do.

First you offered to do it with the consent of newalias and after my clarification you withdraw your offer?

Please give us your written consent to post publicly our ACCESS LOGS, which includes your IP and other info about you and also prove that you never stopped gambling.

Looks like you are lying!

If "newalias" would like to get ahold of each and every log, he can contact directly the Official Regulator (Curacao eGaming) and ask them about logs, they get anything they ask  for from us.

Curacao eGaming is a criminal and anonymous venture and not an Official Regulator as you false and misleading claim!

Curacao does not have any regulator for online games of chance!

[JollyGood]

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If "newalias" would like to get ahold of each and every log, he can contact directly the Official Regulator (Curacao eGaming) and ask them about logs, they get anything they ask  for from us.

@ OP

It seems MegaDice have been active with the gaming licence issuer and will fight their corner. Rather you spend money and instruct a lawyer maybe you should contact the gaming licence authorities in Curacao and liaise with them until they actually make a decision about whether MegaDice should ensure you get your 19+ BTC or not. After all, if they decide in your favour then you would have saved all that money and hassle with the lawyer and investigation.

No doubt you will proceed as you see best but I gave my advice on the subject.

[newalias]

It seems MegaDice have been active with the gaming licence issuer and will fight their corner. Rather you spend money and instruct a lawyer maybe you should contact the gaming licence authorities in Curacao and liaise with them until they actually make a decision about whether MegaDice should ensure you get your 19+ BTC or not. After all, if they decide in your favour then you would have saved all that money and hassle with the lawyer and investigation.

No doubt you will proceed as you see best but I gave my advice on the subject.

That would be the best solution, but Curacao eGaming is not able to answer my emails since weeks...

[AlexSimion]

Isn't it there a more simple way to prove who's right and who's lyeing here ?  Megadice has said that they're willing to provide the ip logs of that session as long as you agree on it . In the same time you can ask for your logs from your internet provider etc . And if it's indeed your ip logged-on during the session megadice says you played the 19 BTC then that's that . Why the constant push back and forward etc .   Over 19 BTC I assume you'd be willing to ask for your logs from your internet service provider . Aswell give the all clear for Megadice to release the logs and that's it , end of story.

[newalias]

Megadice has said that they're willing to provide the ip logs of that session as long as you agree on it . [...] Aswell give the all clear for Megadice to release the logs and that's it , end of story.

They do not know what they want, current status quo is this:

MegaDice are deeply concerned for the privacy of each player, thus posting the Amazon's full logs in this forum would expose private information and other players Data/IPs. This is something we do not want to do.

[MegaDice]

Megadice has said that they're willing to provide the ip logs of that session as long as you agree on it . [...] Aswell give the all clear for Megadice to release the logs and that's it , end of story.

They do not know what they want, current status quo is this:

MegaDice are deeply concerned for the privacy of each player, thus posting the Amazon's full logs in this forum would expose private information and other players Data/IPs. This is something we do not want to do.

We wanted initially to post The official untouched AWS logs, but those contain sensitive data (such as IPs) of many other users and it would not be wise to supply this publicly. We have no problem, to supply them in any other Regulatory party (like we did for eGaming) when asked, though.

As we already stated, we are in communication with Curacao eGaming about your case, and supplying them with the proof that they need. The proof that we have is Official logs, which can be verified-certified by AWS, regarding its authenticity. The AWS logs matches the timestamps of our Rounds logs, as we again stated above. Your ISP logs, in combination with AWS logs will be more than sufficient proof for us. If you need anything more about your case, you can contact Curacao eGaming directly.