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November 27, 2019, 11:30:21 AM
Last edit: November 27, 2019, 01:37:31 PM by Rikafip
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User @salsa321 posted today Ann and Bounty thread for Muse. In his profile it is mentioned that he is Founder of Muse

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=849998



Muse Ann  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5204873.msg53190884#msg53190884
Archive  https://archive.md/gTmmE

This user usually  offers design services.

What caught my attention here is that user @salsa321 is from Indonesia (based on post history) while Muse founder  Anthony Colón seems to be from United States. One more thing that raises suspicion, @salsa321 password has been changed today, few hours before posting Ann and Bounty threads  https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=salsa321


Another interesting thing i found is that Muse Telegram group was used for   Bitcoin Air . Bitcoin Air is failed BTC fork that had some scam accusation issues, as it can be seen in this Reputation  thread. Their Ann is locked now, and all social media channels disappeared

Proof  that  Muse Telegram group was used for Bitcoin Air, as you can see, same guy behind both of these projects, Anthony Colón. I exported chat history from that telegram group, just in case.
     


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November 27, 2019, 03:24:57 PM
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I'm not convinced by your evidence that the account changed hands.  Just because he speaks Indonesian doesn't mean he's not in the San Francisco area.  I live in the bay area myself, and I can tell you there are plenty of immigrants here that come from all over the planet.  A password change is also a weak argument, in my opinion. 

I hate to put people on the spot due to mere suspicion, but if you feel he's using his account to promote a shady project or a flat-out scam then you should present evidence of that.  Whether the account has changed hands or not becomes immaterial at that point.

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November 27, 2019, 04:02:55 PM
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@salsa321 has a lot of designs and interaction in this forum so it is easy to prove whether his account was hacked.
He is a designer (Graphic Design Service & Writing | writing WP,ann thread,bbcode,and more) and he has some communication with a lot of people so they can be asked to check the authenticity of the hack. (archive)

@condoras gave him 2 Merit, So he might have contact with him.
Looking at the trust list, he has reached out to @Bit-Exo.com, so we may get more information.

According to my personal assessment, I think the account has been hacked.

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November 27, 2019, 04:43:48 PM
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My mind tells me that this account was indeed controlled by another person now a previous poster from the Indonesian board as well the password change alone shows that there has been a change of hands. However what bothers me is that this new user is posting good designs for their project so I think the original owner of salsa321 might still be working for the new owner.

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November 28, 2019, 10:10:01 AM
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@salsa321 password has been changed today,
On top of that, the email address was changed as well...

Direct link


Regarding his/her new thread:
- In terms of design, you can still see the quality [like his/her previous designs so most likely, he/she is still somehow connected to that account (similar to what other users are suspecting] but if you take a look at his/her earlier posts this year and compare it to recent posts (if you look at some other posts even prior to creation of Muse Ann, you can spot a difference in style [as if two users are accessing that account]), there's clearly a difference:

Page 1 [check its last few posts and compare its quality with the following pages]
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November 28, 2019, 10:41:45 AM
Last edit: November 28, 2019, 11:06:28 AM by Rikafip
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@salsa321 password has been changed today,
On top of that, the email address was changed as well...


Regarding his/her new thread:
- In terms of design, you can still see the quality [like his/her previous designs so most likely, he/she is still somehow connected to that account (similar to what other users are suspecting] but if you take a look at his/her earlier posts this year and compare it to recent posts (if you look at some other posts even prior to creation of Muse Ann, you can spot a difference in style [as if two users are accessing that account]), there's clearly a difference:

Page 1 [check its last few posts and compare its quality with the following pages]
Page 2
Page 3


Yeah difference is quite obvious, last post was written by someone  with higher level of English, compared to the recent posts. Here is an example from few weeks ago

Hey,are you sure dont need graphic design?

Actually we all need it.
Think this,you writing and need idea for good word and attracting people?it will spend a lot of time.

Imagine this,you can attracting people without writing but do you use colour and shape. After that,people come to your project and invest,what a simple isn't?

What do you waiting for?
Let's talk 1 to 1 and find out what do you want for your audience.

Cheers, 🍻




Regarding design, I think that you and others might be onto something, it looks like  DigiDesign (salsa321 or someone else from that team) is indeed working on the Muse project.

For example look at this


User Laura vivian has been promoted recently by @salsa321 as it can be seen here.

And user "Almosa" has been mentioned in DigiDesign thread

I would like to thank OP for great work he done for me.
Without his ideas our project would not look the way it looks.
If i can comment on work i will say that : "Great partner, with fresh ideas. Very high quality work for little price. Very fast delivery and most likely always deliver what promised".

Not only thread design but also signature designs was made for me. Happy to work with almosa, and happy to have him as part of the https://cryptochangex.com team.

thank you,i really appreciate.
digidesign team so proud be a part of CCX project Smiley

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I asked in their Ann thread about issues mentioned here, now waiting for reply.



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November 28, 2019, 07:48:13 PM
Last edit: November 28, 2019, 08:08:01 PM by salsa321
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@salsa321 has a lot of designs and interaction in this forum so it is easy to prove whether his account was hacked.
He is a designer (Graphic Design Service & Writing | writing WP,ann thread,bbcode,and more) and he has some communication with a lot of people so they can be asked to check the authenticity of the hack. (archive)

@condoras gave him 2 Merit, So he might have contact with him.
Looking at the trust list, he has reached out to @Bit-Exo.com, so we may get more information.

According to my personal assessment, I think the account has been hacked.


DigiDesign services have been acquired by Muse Incorporated and are actively working hand in hand with The Muse Protocol to deliver more graphic content for our project as it progresses.

There was indeed a change of email address and change of password to a secure Muse Protocol email address to ensure it is under ownership of the company itself and will still be managed by both Almosa and the Muse Team.

Creating a new account would not allow us to post images for our development. As you all may know this.

You all can reach out directly to @lovelacewid who is Almosa on Telegram to confirm this.

Any further questions can be directed to support@museprotocol.com or by simply joining our Telegram channel at https://t.me/MuseProtocol



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Creating a new account would not allow us to post images for our development. As you all may know this.

Actually, you can post images, but comes with a small fee.
Read here: Newbies can now pay a small fee to enable images

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November 28, 2019, 11:20:56 PM
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DigiDesign services have been acquired by Muse Incorporated and are actively working hand in hand with The Muse Protocol to deliver more graphic content for our project as it progresses.

There was indeed a change of email address and change of password to a secure Muse Protocol email address to ensure it is under ownership of the company itself and will still be managed by both Almosa and the Muse Team.

Creating a new account would not allow us to post images for our development. As you all may know this.

This statement makes a new confusion [at least for me], how do you actively cooperate with DigiDesign and work hand in hand if the simple information as @julerz12 mentions above you don't know.
Assuming that DigiDesign has been active for a long time and has joined this forum

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November 29, 2019, 07:23:21 AM
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You all can reach out directly to @lovelacewid who is Almosa on Telegram to confirm this.
Any proof that belongs to "Almosa"? AFAIK, his/her telegram is @SmithWalden

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Additional information:
- It appears his/her other account [almosa] recieved negative ratings for "requesting a loan, wihtout a collateral":

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Loan amount : 0.05 btc
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Loan reason : investment for site gambling
Your BTC address : 1HifMbYrWhgVi5tD7NrbujBDtychJF4eLx
Repayment offered : 0.053btc
Date of repayment : 20 january 2016

 
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November 29, 2019, 07:25:25 AM
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Creating a new account would not allow us to post images for our development. As you all may know this.



Somehow i doubt that you don't know about Copper accounts, as it seems to me that you are behind one similar project from last year that is currently on hold,  Decibels. From what i could understand it was another one about  royalties distribution, same as Muse. And same account was active on Bitcoin Air topic, and even wears their signature . As showed before, Anthony Colón is behind both Muse and Bitcoin Air, while founder of Decibels is Anthony Rene Colón Jr.

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November 30, 2019, 07:51:14 PM
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Creating a new account would not allow us to post images for our development. As you all may know this.



Somehow i doubt that you don't know about Copper accounts, as it seems to me that you are behind one similar project from last year that is currently on hold,  Decibels. From what i could understand it was another one about  royalties distribution, same as Muse. And same account was active on Bitcoin Air topic, and even wears their signature . As showed before, Anthony Colón is behind both Muse and Bitcoin Air, while founder of Decibels is Anthony Rene Colón Jr.

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You can happily reach out to us on Telegram or by email (support@museprotocol.com) for a further discussion into this information. Posting public identity information is both frowned upon and unnecessary for a simple explanation regarding both previous developments.


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You can happily reach out to us on Telegram or by email (support@museprotocol.com) for a further discussion into this information. Posting public identity information is both frowned upon and unnecessary for a simple explanation regarding both previous developments.

Since you decided to promote your project  on bitcointalk, i prefer to continue discussion here, just so we can keep it transparent. And i haven't revealed any information that wasn't already available, either on LinkedIn or here on bitcointalk.

Regarding Decibels, there is what i found in your Telegram group yesterday:

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Decibels was rebranded into Muse and the idea revised more towards social streaming and digital royalties. Now we have the proper industry backing to move forward with it and that is why the project was placed on hold and the bounty was paused. All participants of Decibels are still in this chat, and are given the same opportunities to achieve the same Bounty Rewards as the others.

If Muse is indeed rebranded Decibels, how come there is no mention of it anywhere, except this quote from Telegram? Not in Muse whitepaper, Muse Ann, not even in Decibels Ann. What you did instead is that you deleted content of the first post in Decibels Ann, but it has been archived.
What about all those that did Decibels bounty campaign, will they get this new Muse tokens? Or those that invested in Decibels?

I am mentioning all this because people on this forum should know about your previous tries, so they can evaluate your track record before joining Muse through bounty/ico/whatever.
On top of that, for some reason your Ann has been spammed by newbie accounts, shitposting classic oneliners, so far i reported more than 30 of those in the  last few days.

 

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I was in the Decibels ICO. For the record it didn't reach soft cap I think it raised around 40k USD all funds were returned. Secondarily, I followed the XBA project although it failed (stablecoins possesed far too many legal hurdles to be done compliantly). Bitcoin Air was a free airdrop with no way for the team to collect funds from distribution so I do not know where the word scam comes into play. The fact that this isn't a first timer or rookie team is a good thing.
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