I'm Thinking of Bitcoin Blockchain Accessible Without Internet

[OnceTwiceThird]

What if I'm in an area without internet and I need to spend bitcoins? Wouldn't it help the decentralization principle if bitcoin doesn't depend on third-party internet connection? An internet built on the Bitcoin blockchain should be a possibility.

If you can Accessible Without Internet with bitcoin wallet I think still impossible when access to exchange bitcoin market, how ever bitcoin not only have function as payment currency many people use bitcoin for trading, without internet they miss big chance to get much profit with bitcoin investing or trading, but there are still not way for bitcoin without internet.

[dimastegar]

What if I'm in an area without internet and I need to spend bitcoins? Wouldn't it help the decentralization principle if bitcoin doesn't depend on third-party internet connection? An internet built on the Bitcoin blockchain should be a possibility.

Of course you need to move from that area and look for areas with internet connections. Basically Bitcoin cannot stand without an internet connection. Like us humans who cannot live without the help of others because humans are social beings. Bitcoin also cannot live without an internet connection.

[Velkro]

What if I'm in an area without internet and I need to spend bitcoins? Wouldn't it help the decentralization principle if bitcoin doesn't depend on third-party internet connection?

You need internet to be sure that Bitcoin you spending or receiving isnt spend already.
No way to do Bitcoin without internet, you need to verify its legit.

[xiboothrezi]

Until now the internet is one of the best ways to connect the needs in cryptocurrency, on page one there are a lot of discussions about satellite and radio transmissions, but that is not yet effective enough I feel. With the surprising technological developments, it is possible that there will be more and more sophisticated innovations from the internet.

[crwth]

That being said, the poorest of the poor will not be able to enjoy what we are enjoying right now in this crypto space. To send and receive Bitcoin, one needs advance technological tools such as a crypto wallet, smart phone, an internet connection, and so on.

I know this one. That's why I said how they would be able to access it. Being the poorest of the poor would be hard for them. Imagine banks giving bank accounts to them, and they won't do that because they are not sure of how they will profit from it.

If these are all non-existent in a certain area, there is no point talking about Bitcoin or blockchain or whatever. This is a new-wine-in-an-old-wineskin story.

These types of problems are there to be solved, and I think it could be done, but there are no researches to support it yet, you will never know. But what I'm thinking of is giving someone a donation, even just a little even if you are far away from them, it could help them. I think everyone could be at least given a chance to connect to the internet and learn some knowledge about anything they want.

I remember an app called FireChat [1], and it works even without internet. When buwaytress mentioned wireless mesh network, I remembered it, and I think they could start revolutionizing other applications as well. Not sure how, but at least that's a step in the right direction.

[akirasendo17]

im afraid its not going to work, you need to be in the internet to be able to transact using bitcoin , since you need to be syncronize in tje the network and the only way to do that is , to jave an internet connection, bitcoin is in a bigchain of network that is connected to each other, if once goes down its gonna find a way to communicate
to be able to transfer a single teansaction, and that is very important,

[Twentyonepaylots]

That being said, the poorest of the poor will not be able to enjoy what we are enjoying right now in this crypto space. To send and receive Bitcoin, one needs advance technological tools such as a crypto wallet, smart phone, an internet connection, and so on.

I know this one. That's why I said how they would be able to access it. Being the poorest of the poor would be hard for them. Imagine banks giving bank accounts to them, and they won't do that because they are not sure of how they will profit from it.

Well that's the reality that we must face. Although cryptocurrency are created for all, there are still people who can't use it due to limited access to the internet since the network does not work without it. Even we are facing the technological era, 40% are still unable to have the access to the internet and that's roughly 3 billion and most are in isolated areas.

These types of problems are there to be solved, and I think it could be done, but there are no researches to support it yet, you will never know. But what I'm thinking of is giving someone a donation, even just a little even if you are far away from them, it could help them. I think everyone could be at least given a chance to connect to the internet and learn some knowledge about anything they want.

There is no researches conducted since that is practically impossible. Therefore the only way to give is to give physically, cryptocurrency can do the work but it can't be done that way.

[Eugenar]

Actually bitcoin can be valid without having to use an internet connection but bitcoin must be legally recognized as a legal currency but unfortunately for now bitcoin is heavily criticized by many countries so it is difficult to realize it all

What about the concept of using a ledger nano wallet? Even if the wallet isn't connected, it can still receive balance from users, but the problem is just, if you are the sender or the person to create the transaction, you really need to have an internet connection because you need to connect to the world in realtime for your transaction to be recorded in the public ledger. For me, it will not be a necessary thing for us to consider running a blockchain that can be accessible without an internet. I highly consider Internet should be the one to adjust, and to become easily accessible for different services to run not just blockchain and cryptocurrency transactions.

[o_e_l_e_o]

What about the concept of using a ledger nano wallet? Even if the wallet isn't connected, it can still receive balance from users

Wallets are just a collection of private keys. Whether or not those private keys are stored on an internet connected device or not is completely irrelevant. Similarly irrelevant is whether those private keys are stored in a paper wallet, hardware wallet, software wallet, web wallet, and so forth. Every single bitcoin address in existence can receive coins to it whether or not it's associated private key or "associated wallet" is connected to the internet or not.

The issue here is not about the bitcoin addresses being unable to receive coins - it's about the owner being unable to validate that those coins have been received, or being able to make their own transactions. The first can be overcome by using blockchain satellite, the second by using mesh networks or radio signals.

[suvo05]

I don't see the dependence on the internet as a flaw of blockchain. Internet is nowadays becoming the basic needs just like electricity. The  whole banking system is also dependent on the internet.
The idea of using the blockchain is good but such a thing is not possible. For a transaction two wallet need to be connected to each other at least. What could be the mode of that connection?

[th3nolo]

What if I'm in an area without internet and I need to spend bitcoins? Wouldn't it help the decentralization principle if bitcoin doesn't depend on third-party internet connection? An internet built on the Bitcoin blockchain should be a possibility.

There is already someone working to solve this kind of problem, the creator is a Venezuelan and the technology is known as Locha Mesh.

https://blog.bitcoinvenezuela.com/locha-mesh/
https://twitter.com/locha_io

Secure communications and Bitcoin transactions broadcasting without internet or even electricity.

Here is a Podcast where Rady Brito CEO of Bitcoin Venezuela talks in-depth about how Locha-Mesh works.

https://twitter.com/keyvandavani/status/1203049589105930241

[cotton ball]

I don't see the dependence on the internet as a flaw of blockchain. Internet is nowadays becoming the basic needs just like electricity. The  whole banking system is also dependent on the internet.
The idea of using the blockchain is good but such a thing is not possible. For a transaction two wallet need to be connected to each other at least. What could be the mode of that connection?

Many country not get support access with higher speed internet and need new way how to use blockchain and bitcoin account without access to internet, maybe have application support can access with our wallet without internet and have think by blockchain support how next time to make people easily to access with bitcoin account without have internet. Maybe more safety if can open bitcoin wallet without using internet.

[FaithInCrypto]

Blockchain exists because of internet connection right, so if there's no internet connection there's no blockchain I believe. I wonder how are we going to validate transactions if you're not connected to the internet.
I do believe that Bitcoin started because of the internet but I am sure people will find a way to maximize its use even without the use of the internet, I hope.

[Spaffin]

Apparently the question itself sounds wrong or the idea is simply not feasible.  The same can be said of a car that does not need to be refueled, but anyway, but someone wants to use this car without fuel.  One way or another, if there is no gasoline or diesel fuel, then in order to set the car in motion, they will use batteries and electric motors.  Nevertheless, the vehicle remains the same.  But if blockchain exists on the world wide web of the Internet, then no one can use the blockchain without the Internet itself.

[sehoon]

It's going to be a good thing if you can do that kind of solution, to be honest. But as of now, I don't think there's any way to do that. Spending bitcoins or other cryptocurrencies requires the internet. This is not fiat where you can just pull money out of your wallet or out of the bank using your credit card.

[Murat]

Is it really possible? Bitcoin or Blockchain system without Internet access, I don't know how could it be possible? where this chain system is totally dependent on the internet then you raise the question about this issue, but if it could be possible then a lot of people would get a huge service around the remote area, But I think it's possible to run without the Internet, Not only Blockchain or Bitcoin, every digital payment is fully based on the internet connection, so No internet connection, No blockchain, No Bitcoin or Cryptocurrency, and Even No Digital Payment system.

[DabsPoorVersion]

Is it really possible? Bitcoin or Blockchain system without Internet access, I don't know how could it be possible? where this chain system is totally dependent on the internet then you raise the question about this issue, but if it could be possible then a lot of people would get a huge service around the remote area, But I think it's possible to run without the Internet, Not only Blockchain or Bitcoin, every digital payment is fully based on the internet connection, so No internet connection, No blockchain, No Bitcoin or Cryptocurrency, and Even No Digital Payment system.

No, it is still impossible. OP is only thinking of the possibility that it may be a way to advance our way of using bitcoin when it comes to having a problem with the internet connection. Bitcoin blockchain is still dependent on the internet and this idea will only become possible if our technology will advance and improve drastically.

[GideonGono]

Is it really possible? Bitcoin or Blockchain system without Internet access, I don't know how could it be possible? where this chain system is totally dependent on the internet then you raise the question about this issue, but if it could be possible then a lot of people would get a huge service around the remote area, But I think it's possible to run without the Internet, Not only Blockchain or Bitcoin, every digital payment is fully based on the internet connection, so No internet connection, No blockchain, No Bitcoin or Cryptocurrency, and Even No Digital Payment system.

No, it is still impossible. OP is only thinking of the possibility that it may be a way to advance our way of using bitcoin when it comes to having a problem with the internet connection. Bitcoin blockchain is still dependent on the internet and this idea will only become possible if our technology will advance and improve drastically.

Yep. Considering that in order to use the cell towers across the globe or even if you just narrow it down locally you would come to a realization that you need the government's permission to provide internet to the users which is the case of the telecommunication companies you have in your country so having a decentralized internet connection as what the OP is proposing is very unrealistic and would not really happen though I think we don't really need to have such a thing or project if you may call it because there are many ways to mask your internet browsing if you don't want any third party snooping you around.

[nomenclatur]

You can ask a friend you can trust an affordable Internet network is easier and better to just call a friend who is connected to the Internet and provide your data to allow your friends to help you order the withdrawal process in accordance with the number you requested. This means that the best way to not get more complicated.

[White Christmas]

What if I'm in an area without internet and I need to spend bitcoins? Wouldn't it help the decentralization principle if bitcoin doesn't depend on third-party internet connection? An internet built on the Bitcoin blockchain should be a possibility.

It would be really hard to establish a bitcoin blockchain if no internet connection is involved, why? Simply because bitcoin is decentralized and it requires an internet connection in order to run the system. And if someone can develop bitcoin or blockchain technology as an access even though without any internet connection then it would be really hard because just like what I have been said bitcoin needs internet to be regulated, because if this internet loss then it would be really a hard problem for us to get some coins or tokens. So the sayings that if you want to regulate bitcoin then you must establish first a very good internet connection.