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December 02, 2019, 03:22:07 PM
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investors are getting smarter because they have become victims of fraud and will not want to repeat the mistakes that have been made, while the developers who are in their minds get profits quickly and leave the project...
It seems that the last 1 year investors have begun to realize that, followed by investor confidence in ICO which has dropped dramatically. so many projects fail to get funding. many projects that only want to make a profit and run, without developing their projects. so, in the end, they have taken investor funds compared to listings in the market where the costs are quite high.

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December 02, 2019, 03:51:15 PM
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If an exchange listing a coin for free then its probably a scam exchange,just see how much it will cost to list on reputed exchange like Binance.

But if developers looking for much cheaper option means they did't have enough money or trading volume to list on the better exchange.

None of them are smart here,everyone running behind more profits.
for example like this, for large exchanges such as binance, large fees and they are reluctant to enter there. means that they don't have enough money and means the project isn't working. they chose an exchange with a cheap or even free fee, instead it became a boomerang because it was prone to price scams and quiet of demand.
Well, if they knew that it would be a boomerang for them, I think they were really not serious about developing their projects. yes, it's good enough if the not-so-bad exchanger starts. but, some projects even put their tokens in a really bad exchanger. it's the same as turning off their own project.'
thinking about this, I sometimes only see projects that have a good market.
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December 02, 2019, 04:19:45 PM
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investors are invading some exchanges why not developers? i know listing fee can be huge but few exchanges are just scam practitioners, developers should take their time to check out scam accusation thread on this forum and see how many people are been ripped off by these so called exchanges e.g idax p2pb2b among others

i do not think so, because the more scam projects, the smarter the developer, because with the growth which is getting better with many existing regulations, but at least the developer will continue to use his expertise in related matters. on the issue of listing fees, i don't think that's a big problem for most developers and good projects, because when a project really has money the developer doesn't depend entirely on investors for project development

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December 02, 2019, 04:23:17 PM
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What the developers are after is the cheap listing fee since reputable exchange is very expensive. But on the other hand, although you had listed your coin or token the thing is that if it is not in a good exchange or decent at the very least then it would not have a good impact to the image of your project especially if it is a shady exchange. Though there are cases that it is the user's fault and just ranting that it is a scam exchange well in fact they don't know how to use it or they had exposed their private details needed to sign in in an exchange.



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December 02, 2019, 04:48:18 PM
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What the developers are after is the cheap listing fee since reputable exchange is very expensive. But on the other hand, although you had listed your coin or token the thing is that if it is not in a good exchange or decent at the very least then it would not have a good impact to the image of your project especially if it is a shady exchange. Though there are cases that it is the user's fault and just ranting that it is a scam exchange well in fact they don't know how to use it or they had exposed their private details needed to sign in in an exchange.
their problem is that it is difficult to join a large exchange, and they are very aware of the requirements that cannot be done.

Then there are two things that I often read in their telegrams. 1. They ask for opinions from the community. 2. There are accounts that claim that certain exchange parties offer services for listing, and the admin tells them to DM and communicate further. What happens then is that they are tricked, or they just choose an exchange that is easier to get in like forkdelta.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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December 02, 2019, 05:35:01 PM
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Over the last few years, the idea of cryptocurrencies has exploded, and more people than ever have invested in currencies like Bitcoin. For every project there is roadmap and technical whitepaper to guide them through development. developers are getting all the blames for a bad project neglecting the faults of investors.
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December 03, 2019, 02:38:07 PM
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investors are invading some exchanges why not developers? i know listing fee can be huge but few exchanges are just scam practitioners, developers should take their time to check out scam accusation thread on this forum and see how many people are been ripped off by these so called exchanges e.g idax p2pb2b among others
You know that listing fee is very high with reputable exchanges, for some projects, because they need to follow their roadmap, and exchange listing is one of the mile stone. So if they don't raise enough fund, low-cost exchanges are always the best option. Maybe the developers know about idax and p2pb2b, but they have no other choice.

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December 03, 2019, 03:20:50 PM
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investors are invading some exchanges why not developers? i know listing fee can be huge but few exchanges are just scam practitioners, developers should take their time to check out scam accusation thread on this forum and see how many people are been ripped off by these so-called exchanges e.g index p2pb2b among others
Investors should be smarter today to avoid those scammers and I think there is no free exchange here, so maybe we can also determine if that exchange is a scam or not depends on how much the fees they will charge to us when making an exchange. I remember when I discover a site, selling a camera with only $1, using your credit card, I've already thought that it is a scam for them to get your information and your credit card. So it is also just like that so be careful enough to observe.
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December 03, 2019, 03:29:02 PM
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investors are invading some exchanges why not developers? i know listing fee can be huge but few exchanges are just scam practitioners, developers should take their time to check out scam accusation thread on this forum and see how many people are been ripped off by these so called exchanges e.g idax p2pb2b among others
Because the developer is also scam, so he doesn't care about it, he cares about how to get money from investors. only that !
Most probably, that is the case here. Why would a scammer care about keeping a check on everything or try to improve the project after he succeeds in accumulating good amount of money from investors? Obviously, he cannot care less. This is why it is suggested to do some research before choosing any project and never become the earlier investor under present circumstances.

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December 03, 2019, 05:12:12 PM
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I guess you meant to say investors are "avoiding" and not "invading" some exchanges?

Many developers don't bother too about the quality of exchanges they wish to list on as long as the exchanges listing fee are cheap. Unfortunately, they do this at the expense of their investors & the project. I guess there is no easy way they could know what exchange is reliable and trustworthy. Regular online reviews are not always very reliable.
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December 03, 2019, 05:20:43 PM
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Modern investors are very smart and knowledgeable but they are not developers. Investors invaded a number of large exchanges and had a very special influence on the market.

Are you sure that the investors are smarter now? I have serious doubt regarding that. Even recently, many of the scam ICOs succeeded in scamming huge amounts out of the unsuspecting investors. PLUS token scam alone resulted in a loss of more than $3 billion for those who invested in it. Under such circumstances, I can't really agree with your statements.
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December 03, 2019, 07:30:35 PM
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Investors are getting smatter because, back in the day when developers use to write long essays on the white paper and people would be fooled by the fancy wordings and unachievable goals, now investors including us, have become smarter and read the paper dry, ask tons of questions before even investing a single penny into some project.
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December 03, 2019, 07:42:41 PM
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investors are invading some exchanges why not developers? i know listing fee can be huge but few exchanges are just scam practitioners, developers should take their time to check out scam accusation thread on this forum and see how many people are been ripped off by these so called exchanges e.g idax p2pb2b among others

I don't think developers don't want to be smart either, instead they know what they are doing. I do not for once believe developers will take time, effort and money to develope a project then watch it go down the drain by listing on a bad exchange; listing on a bad exchange kills a project they knows this and yet goes ahead to do so, thus it means they knows what they are doing. Investors on the other hand are trying to save themselves by being smart which is a good call.

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December 04, 2019, 03:07:43 PM
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Op you are right that investors are smarter than before. They taught the lesson well that in crypto you have to be pro to avoid the huge loss of scamming, holding, hacking, manipulating and so on! So, investors are very choosy now when it comes to incest on something. But the sad part is crypto developers seem stuck on building repetitive projects like exchange, energy-based projects, music-based and so on. No real or unique they have nowadays!
Most of the creators create a copy of existing coin projects and ends up nothing. Those developers are only after for the money and not into the success
of the project. It's difficult for them to fish around since the investors already learned from previous mistakes and now they are very choosy before investing there money and follow any newly created projects.
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December 04, 2019, 03:11:59 PM
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Whether a project is good or low rated its now all about exchange game, even if a low rated project gets on binance it will perform better, take your time to look at all projects that listed on small exchanges you will notice how bad they are performing compared to those that went for top exchanges

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December 04, 2019, 03:16:11 PM
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investors are invading some exchanges why not developers? i know listing fee can be huge but few exchanges are just scam practitioners, developers should take their time to check out scam accusation thread on this forum and see how many people are been ripped off by these so called exchanges e.g idax p2pb2b among others

I think the difference is obvious here. Investors draw with their own funds, which means they try to more carefully study projects for investment. Developers simply do the work and get rewarded for it, while their risk is much less than that of investors. So it turns out that the investor is better versed in crypto projects than developers.
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December 04, 2019, 03:21:22 PM
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investors are invading some exchanges why not developers? i know listing fee can be huge but few exchanges are just scam practitioners, developers should take their time to check out scam accusation thread on this forum and see how many people are been ripped off by these so called exchanges e.g idax p2pb2b among others
I don't think it's that simple. Despite the listing fee that is quite expensive for some exchanges especially top ones, there must other thing they have to consider before their listing. Even the successful ones, sometimes takes a lot of time before it could be in a good exchanges. As long as the project was proven legit, I don't think that the developers were that dumb to listed their altcoin on some shady exchanges. Unless they don't have any other choice than using the unpopular free listing exchanges.
No developers know that idax exchange is shady and many new projects listed on that exchange are in trouble now, its always good for new projects teams or dev to listen to people's opinions, sometimes they will find nothing but the truth, p2pb2b is the next one to destroy some new coins

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December 04, 2019, 03:25:22 PM
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Before, Developers can easily conceptualize projects that can be enticing for the Investors. You can create a certain project concept in one sitting and everything will just flow. Now, that almost all the concepts are the same, Developers are really trying hard to come up with a unique idea that will really help on solving problems. But in the end, Investors will choose those projects that are good to ne true and it will turn out to be a scam project.
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December 04, 2019, 08:11:09 PM
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Both investors and developers are people, who do their own research and can't know everything about the situation with each exchange. Sometimes some prople are writing about their negative experience but their stories often look strange and subjective.

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