Re: ✅ Paradice.in | 🍀 Provably Fair 🎲 | Rain☔| 30 sec Faucet | 1% House Edge

[Stalker22]

I just only see paradice only trying to find excuse about how to handle this "faucet abuse".

If the player just played by a faucet and won, I don't think it's a faucet abuse. The Paradice should really explain better what kind of abuse it was exactly.
I checked their Terms of Use and FAQ, there is no mention anywhere that faucet winnings cannot be withdrawn. Moreover, they have already stated that they allow smaller amounts won from the faucet to be withdrawn, so this is clearly a mistake on their part.

I can't help but wonder what would happen if someone deposited a small amount and got incredibly lucky to win such a substantial amount? Would they still deny the withdrawal? How would that be different from the current situation?

Yea, that's why i said they are trying to excuse about this problem. If their ToS said we are not eligible withdraw or winning amount from faucet can't be withdrawn , this won,'f caused this problem

Exactly, if they don't want to avoid people who want to bet with the faucet rewards or winning with them and keep winning is prohibited then they should not allowed such person to bet or should the limits are mentioned in their site but none of them available still they call it as abuse which is nit acceptable though.

Not only that, but they explicitly state in their ANN post that it is possible to win money with bonus rewards.

So, all that cherry tree stuff is bullshit when someone wins big? Shouldn't that have been in your Terms of Service from the start?
Btw, I saw this in your ANN post:

I will never trust a casino with my money if they deny payments based on arbitrarily made-up rules.

[pippipipipi]

I will never trust a casino with my money if they deny payments based on arbitrarily made-up rules.

I don't even recommend it because I won't even reply if it becomes inconvenient.
I think I'm thinking of running away without replying anyway.
This is speculation.
They denied it, but the one named Paradise wouldn't be trusted.

[Cratoon]

There was a faucet abuse. Casino management decided to reject this payment in conformity with our TOS. This is the final decision, and it is not a subject to change.

[pippipipipi]

Oh! Let's take a break for a sec and take a look at the Cambridge Dictionary! According to the Book, Fraud means the crime of getting money by deceiving people. And Scam is an illegal way of making money, usually by tricking people.

Did we made even a single penny by deceiving this player? Sure we didn't.

It's good question: who is the victim here?

Once again. There was a faucet abuse. Casino management decided to reject this payment in conformity with our TOS. This is the final decision, and it is not a subject to change.

If I had deposited at least one penny, would I have pulled it out?
To deceive is to lie and make you think it is true.
And you tricked me into hiding your $ 7,000 balance in your wallet, right?

Good answer: I am.

once again.
It does not correspond to the unauthorized use of the faucet you say.

You are deceiving and earning $ 7,000.

[Bitinity]

There was a faucet abuse. Casino management decided to reject this payment in conformity with our TOS. This is the final decision, and it is not a subject to change.

What kind of faucet abuse he did? Did he use multiple accounts? It seems that you are inconsistence with your own reason to deny his $7,000 withdrawal. At the beginning, you accused him of using bot/strategy but you accuse him by your own assumption only. Now at the end, you accuse him of faucet abuse but you did not mention how he abuse the faucet.

[janggernaut]

There was a faucet abuse. Casino management decided to reject this payment in conformity with our TOS. This is the final decision, and it is not a subject to change.

What kind of faucet abuse he did? Did he use multiple accounts? It seems that you are inconsistence with your own reason to deny his $7,000 withdrawal. At the beginning, you accused him of using bot/strategy but you accuse him by your own assumption only. Now at the end, you accuse him of faucet abuse but you did not mention how he abuse the faucet.

He said before, because this guy (pipipi) didn't even risked any amount of money. That's why he said that user has abused the faucet (which is not from my opinion). They were even tried to give $50/$100 to this user as compensation (lol its just less than 1% from his winning amount).

IMO, just pay him or contact with him by privately to solve this problem, it has been few weeks i've seen this problem.

[TimeTeller]

There was a faucet abuse. Casino management decided to reject this payment in conformity with our TOS. This is the final decision, and it is not a subject to change.

What kind of faucet abuse he did? Did he use multiple accounts? It seems that you are inconsistence with your own reason to deny his $7,000 withdrawal. At the beginning, you accused him of using bot/strategy but you accuse him by your own assumption only. Now at the end, you accuse him of faucet abuse but you did not mention how he abuse the faucet.

He said before, because this guy (pipipi) didn't even risked any amount of money. That's why he said that user has abused the faucet (which is not from my opinion). They were even tried to give $50/$100 to this user as compensation (lol its just less than 1% from his winning amount).

IMO, just pay him or contact with him by privately to solve this problem, it has been few weeks i've seen this problem.

This guy who won $7k just by using their faucet was really lucky.
I believe the site couldn't accept how this person got that amount of money from them by using freebies.
Again, this is the important reason why there is ToS in every company or site, as it will be the reference when something goes awry.
If they can't give his full winnings, they need to settle it amicably as this person will not stop bothering them about this case.
They need to move on with this mistake. And learn from it.

[naim027]

The reason for adding Faucet to online casinos was not like that. Faucet was invented for the purpose of allowing users to check out games without a deposit.

There are several sites I have visited that allow withdrawals from Faucet. But on the other hand, there are many sites that allow, but according to their rules.

E.g., DuckDice. They allow users to withdraw from Faucet, and sometimes deny it. Users who make regular deposits, high rank level, they allow them to withdraw up to 5 bitcoins. On the other hand, those are new to the site. Just playing with Faucet, their withdrawal denies. Casino Royal Also has same system. Imagine for a second, you were added Faucet so that customers could test your site, but they withdrew a huge amount. What will you do then?

I have seen many sites like this, who initially came up with the site with Faucet, but later they were forced to shut down Faucet. Such as Bitsler, Jacksclub,
I think casinos have the right to allow, or reject, withdraw from Faucet.

[Stalker22]

If they can't give his full winnings, they need to settle it amicably as this person will not stop bothering them about this case.
They need to move on with this mistake. And learn from it.

I'm wondering if they would pay any significant winnings at all. What if somebody made a tiny deposit and won the jackpot?
When I did a little research, I see that this is not their first case of such suspicious behavior towards players.

Paradice.im SCAM accusation

Although in the title of that topic is the domain 'paradice.im', user Cratoon continued to accuse the player of faucet abuse similar to this case, which confirms that it is their casino.

I think casinos have the right to allow, or reject, withdraw from Faucet.

Of course they do, but then it should be clearly defined in ther ToS.

Then again, how do you explain this kind of promotion?

[pippipipipi]

The reason for adding Faucet to online casinos was not like that. Faucet was invented for the purpose of allowing users to check out games without a deposit.

There are several sites I have visited that allow withdrawals from Faucet. But on the other hand, there are many sites that allow, but according to their rules.

E.g., DuckDice. They allow users to withdraw from Faucet, and sometimes deny it. Users who make regular deposits, high rank level, they allow them to withdraw up to 5 bitcoins. On the other hand, those are new to the site. Just playing with Faucet, their withdrawal denies. Casino Royal Also has same system. Imagine for a second, you were added Faucet so that customers could test your site, but they withdrew a huge amount. What will you do then?

I have seen many sites like this, who initially came up with the site with Faucet, but later they were forced to shut down Faucet. Such as Bitsler, Jacksclub,
I think casinos have the right to allow, or reject, withdraw from Faucet.

But they are making excuses.
Are you abusing the faucet from the beginning without excuses?
I can't trust them because I make such excuses.
They were suspected of being bots and fraud.
Why didn't you call it faucet abuse from the beginning?
I think that's the reason for running away.
Besides, it seems that you have had trouble with withdrawals in the past, and you will not be able to trust it.

[ultrloa]

There was a faucet abuse. Casino management decided to reject this payment in conformity with our TOS. This is the final decision, and it is not a subject to change.

What kind of faucet abuse he did? Did he use multiple accounts? It seems that you are inconsistence with your own reason to deny his $7,000 withdrawal. At the beginning, you accused him of using bot/strategy but you accuse him by your own assumption only. Now at the end, you accuse him of faucet abuse but you did not mention how he abuse the faucet.

He said before, because this guy (pipipi) didn't even risked any amount of money. That's why he said that user has abused the faucet (which is not from my opinion). They were even tried to give $50/$100 to this user as compensation (lol its just less than 1% from his winning amount).

IMO, just pay him or contact with him by privately to solve this problem, it has been few weeks i've seen this problem.

This guy who won $7k just by using their faucet was really lucky.
I believe the site couldn't accept how this person got that amount of money from them by using freebies.
Again, this is the important reason why there is ToS in every company or site, as it will be the reference when something goes awry.
If they can't give his full winnings, they need to settle it amicably as this person will not stop bothering them about this case.
They need to move on with this mistake. And learn from it.

Imagine how lucky the guy is for earning that on simply using the faucet but if the sort of abuse has been found maybe this is right decision not to pay him. But I wonder how does that guy do that since if the winning is just a pure luck well that deserve a good credit. This events shouls be sorted so if a site doesn't want these tyoe of abuse maybe they should disable the faucet and used a free demo version so thag it can make abuser go away and those legitimate tester only will try to play using it.

[pippipipipi]

Imagine how lucky the guy is for earning that on simply using the faucet but if the sort of abuse has been found maybe this is right decision not to pay him. But I wonder how does that guy do that since if the winning is just a pure luck well that deserve a good credit. This events shouls be sorted so if a site doesn't want these tyoe of abuse maybe they should disable the faucet and used a free demo version so thag it can make abuser go away and those legitimate tester only will try to play using it.

Their faucet was problematic from the beginning.
They talked about whether to get rid of the faucet in the past, right?
If you want to keep the faucet on, you need to know in advance that you can't use anything that isn't worth the money, or you can't withdraw the demo bonus.
But they didn't do that.
These problems are unlikely to occur, but they only reduce the amount of faucets the user gets.
For example, some players may deposit $ 100 and earn $ 10,000.
Even in such cases, they do not withdraw.
They make excuses so lol

[naim027]

I think casinos have the right to allow, or reject, withdraw from Faucet.

Of course they do, but then it should be clearly defined in ther ToS.

Then again, how do you explain this kind of promotion?

Well, First Of all they don’t have Jackpot System.
2nd, It's Common sense that you have to pay to buy products. In Their case, They did some mistakes, But As I can see, They Updated Their TOS.

3rd. Every Company Has their Our Slogan And Taglines. (Take the Bonus and Wins) It's not mean You can do whatever you want with bonus. As Cratoon Said, This guy continuously Claimed Faucet till he manage some big amount. He claimed faucet every day and tried to make something, but he failed. And luckily he he managed that amount with his last claim without risking a Penny.

[pippipipipi]

Well, First Of all they don’t have Jackpot System.

Even if you don't have a jackpot system, you can get a lot of money if you increase the magnification and win fortunately.

2nd, It's Common sense that you have to pay to buy products. In Their case, They did some mistakes, But As I can see, They Updated Their TOS.

Then, if I had deposited even 1 cent, would I have been able to withdraw? It's different?
Everyone else finds it unpleasant just to update the TOS and run away.

3rd. Every Company Has their Our Slogan And Taglines. (Take the Bonus and Wins) It's not mean You can do whatever you want with bonus. As Cratoon Said, This guy continuously Claimed Faucet till he manage some big amount. He claimed faucet every day and tried to make something, but he failed. And luckily he he managed that amount with his last claim without risking a Penny.

I have another financial project, So I understand Their Pain.

I don't think continuing to insist on faucets is what they call faucet abuse.
And I don't think it will change even if I make a deposit.
Because they are people who tell lies that aren't possible.

Put yourself in their shoes and think what would you do in this situation? Someone wants to withdraw such a amount of money without taking any risk.

There is a saying,

-Where did you learn?
- Where I stopped.

This is a lot like Paradise. I think it would be better if you compromise with them.

I answered in the past.

Do you think you haven't compromised?
Make excuses and warn everyone that it's the worst website.
Prevent others from being harmed.

[naim027]

Do you think you haven't compromised?
Make excuses and warn everyone that it's the worst website.
Prevent others from being harmed.

Well, I think $100 Is Better Than Nothing. What will happen now to warn people? Since they have changed their TOS. And They Willing to Pay Maximum $100 From Faucet. I think you are successful. If your main purpose is to warn people. Because after this incident of yours, they have been forced to change the withdrawal limit.

[pippipipipi]

Do you think you haven't compromised?
Make excuses and warn everyone that it's the worst website.
Prevent others from being harmed.

Well, I think $100 Is Better Than Nothing. What will happen now to warn people? Since they have changed their TOS. And They Willing to Pay Maximum $100 From Faucet. I think you are successful. If your main purpose is to warn people. Because after this incident of yours, they have been forced to change the withdrawal limit.

If you deposit $ 100 and there is no guarantee that you can withdraw it, it's definitely a scam.
I don't want other people to do the same.
And I said I would pay $ 100, but I don't know if I can withdraw it when it's added to Paradise.in's wallet, and the forum says it's $ 100 withdrawal, but the website says it's $ 50, so I can't withdraw $ 100. ??

It will be natural. Do you want someone else to have a withdrawal problem and make it a problem again?
Then it's also for you not to play carefully.

And if my fault forces me to change my withdrawal limits, why not start from the beginning?
Isn't it bad that Paradise.in hasn't changed the Faucet problem for some time?

I think you should be careful if you play here.
The terms of use say that there is no guarantee.
You run away saying that there is no guarantee of withdrawal anyway?

[naim027]

Do you think you haven't compromised?
Make excuses and warn everyone that it's the worst website.
Prevent others from being harmed.

Well, I think $100 Is Better Than Nothing. What will happen now to warn people? Since they have changed their TOS. And They Willing to Pay Maximum $100 From Faucet. I think you are successful. If your main purpose is to warn people. Because after this incident of yours, they have been forced to change the withdrawal limit.

If you deposit $ 100 and there is no guarantee that you can withdraw it, it's definitely a scam.

As Cratoon Said, if You deposited at least $100, it would be different story. I am Playing There from March 2020. Withdrawn Some Insane Amounts. I don't think it's Scam. As far as I know, someone I know has withdrawn $63,000 from ParaDice in a Single Transaction. I remember, That user's name was Marox10 .  It was feature news on their telegram channel.



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[pippipipipi]

Do you think you haven't compromised?
Make excuses and warn everyone that it's the worst website.
Prevent others from being harmed.

Well, I think $100 Is Better Than Nothing. What will happen now to warn people? Since they have changed their TOS. And They Willing to Pay Maximum $100 From Faucet. I think you are successful. If your main purpose is to warn people. Because after this incident of yours, they have been forced to change the withdrawal limit.

If you deposit $ 100 and there is no guarantee that you can withdraw it, it's definitely a scam.

As Cratoon Said, if You deposited at least $100, it would be different story. I am Playing There from March 2020. Withdrawn Some Insane Amounts. I don't think it's Scam. As far as I know, someone I know has withdrawn $63,000 from ParaDice in a Single Transaction. I remember, That user's name was Marox10 .  It was feature news on their telegram channel.



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Isn't that just what they are saying?
Why is it $ 100?
The minimum deposit is 1000 Satoshi in BTC, about $ 0.6.
Where did the $ 100 come from?
Also, even if you deposit $ 100, you may be denied withdrawal due to abuse of the faucet.
He told an analogy.
And I was suspected of being a BOT.
First of all, if you make so much money, why not suspect a bot?

For example, if you deposit $ 1,000 and withdraw $ 63,000, don't you suspect a bot?
It's different?

[thsceptic]

Do you think you haven't compromised?
Make excuses and warn everyone that it's the worst website.
Prevent others from being harmed.

Well, I think $100 Is Better Than Nothing. What will happen now to warn people? Since they have changed their TOS. And They Willing to Pay Maximum $100 From Faucet. I think you are successful. If your main purpose is to warn people. Because after this incident of yours, they have been forced to change the withdrawal limit.

If you deposit $ 100 and there is no guarantee that you can withdraw it, it's definitely a scam.

As Cratoon Said, if You deposited at least $100, it would be different story. I am Playing There from March 2020. Withdrawn Some Insane Amounts. I don't think it's Scam. As far as I know, someone I know has withdrawn $63,000 from ParaDice in a Single Transaction. I remember, That user's name was Marox10 .  It was feature news on their telegram channel.



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You are clearly an alt of Paradise. I have some questions for you:

1) Since you have cashed out some insane amounts ( must be thousands of dollars) please post screen shot from your account with tx ID, and sign from those addresses.
2) I AM 100% sure that no one cashed out for 63000$ from paradice. I dare paradice to post tx ID and Sign from sending wallet.
3) Just put yourself on the player's shoe, he was expecting 7000$ and you offered him 100$ (that too for disclosing his strat, lol). How would you feel?

[pippipipipi]

You are clearly an alt of Paradise. I have some questions for you:

1) Since you have cashed out some insane amounts ( must be thousands of dollars) please post screen shot from your account with tx ID, and sign from those addresses.
2) I AM 100% sure that no one cashed out for 63000$ from paradice. I dare paradice to post tx ID and Sign from sending wallet.
3) Just put yourself on the player's shoe, he was expecting 7000$ and you offered him 100$ (that too for disclosing his strat, lol). How would you feel?

It's true that you can tell a lie to look good on Telegram.
As long as there is no withdrawal history of the user.
Don't worry, I said I don't want $100 that I can't withdraw.