Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account - case #1

[marlboroza]

Account the_doctor https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=512705
Account goraset https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=158678
Connection via twitter account: https://twitter.com/the_doctor18

Account the_doctor joined campaigns using this twitter:

https://twitter.com/the_doctor18/status/906499320714842112

https://twitter.com/the_doctor18/status/905460236433182721

Oh, account goraset joined campaign just under the account the_doctor:



The_doctor used this twitter here:

Hello dev. Please update my btc address to : 1AE2VENU4zH164LiNguR3BzQFNkLTVCF5x
Bitcointalk username: the_doctor
spreadsheets number : Twitter campaign #159
Bitcointalk link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=512705
Twitter link: https://twitter.com/the_doctor18
Reason: Cannot sign message from the old wallet address.

account goraset used the same twitter here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1021399.msg14745611#msg14745611 (it is quoted but message from goraset surprisingly magically disappeared!)

thanks for payment, please renew

Twitter account: https://twitter.com/the_doctor18
Bitcoin Address: 152Ks6R89h89iQL6z57KpoT8UpDVxgM6mo
Recent  Bet: https://blockchain.info/tx/57f74a6ddb656ebad54136e627b8dd43d4548513f866b84f26c075042b3c3c95
PM Bonus: yes
Avatar Bonus: yes

and here:

joined artwork campaign

https://twitter.com/the_doctor18/status/958404960919740416

https://twitter.com/the_doctor18/status/958404861732818944

TL,DR:

Bitcointalk URL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=512705
Username Bitcointalk: goraset
Link to your Blogs: https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@criptoturk/la-revolucion-en-el-sistema-bancario-ceyron
Eth Address: 0x54b4e3fb904AaDbf7D80aae42306B35B398e41D0

PS 2

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/ebe405615e5d54ce/addresses and addresses which are part of that wallet:

Code:

152Ks6R89h89iQL6z57KpoT8UpDVxgM6mo	
1MekS8gxhPbgdSAoRjn6kPdnGoVBysPHhK

Goraset:

152Ks6R89h89iQL6z57KpoT8UpDVxgM6mo

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1574127.msg15812476#msg15812476

The_doctor (redacted):

Bitcointalk username: the_doctor
Twitter account: https://twitter.com/the_doctor18
Bitcoin address: 1MekS8gxhPbgdSAoRjn6kPdnGoVBysPHhK

Alt account: criptoturk
Source for banned account: https://bpip.org/

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[marlboroza]

Reserved in case there is more accounts
Not sure if Dontcry. just copy/pasted previous post, but I'll drop it here anyway (quotes redacted):

Twitter Link: https://twitter.com/criptoturk

Twitter Link: https://twitter.com/criptoturk

Surprise surprise, Dontcry. is also banned (I forget to mention that all 3 users can be found in Turkish local, so there must be something...).

[marlboroza]

Reserved
Connected account: criptoturk: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1252009

Account goraset posted this (he posted many videos):

#Proof of authentication
Joined: content and video campaign
Bitcointalk username: goraset
Bitcointalk Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=158678
Link to the content:

 Blog
1- http://criptoturk.com/2018/07/15/online-platformu/
2- http://www.coinsistemi.com/ico/online-platformu.html
3- https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@goraset/hem-reklamsiz-hem-de-daha-guevenli-bir-internet-deneyimi-icin-online-platformunun-devrimsel-oezellikleri-ile-tanisin

 Video
 1- https://youtu.be/0RMvXDDA01s
 2- https://youtu.be/XEU6RBmG02Y

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3479652.msg42182307#msg42182307

Account criptoturk posted this:

YouTube campaign
Youtube URL: https://youtu.be/e_d1svjtsmA

Following links, criptoturk (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK8W-SDrmp-IwggkAU7f4Sw) is account goraset's channel and ICO_World is account criptoturk's channel.

Both have the same video stile at the beginning of videos, some spinning text and similar music, but, this is much better connection between them:

Video on account criptoturk's channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2WivRUZx6g
Video on account goraset's channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNuifgfWQVk

Mr. Admin Sir, please watch both videos and please LISTEN! It is the same person speaking on both videos  

[rhomelmabini]

<....>

There's a probability that he just copy-pasted the recent post above him, anyways that is a banned user.

How about this user criptoturk, seems he has past merit transaction between the two above, probably merit abuse. See the reference of his bpip information: https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=criptoturk

I'll edit this reply if I found something on my investigation, hopes this isn't a way meddling with your investigation, just want to help though.

[marlboroza]

There's a probability that he just copy-pasted the recent post above him, anyways that is a banned user.

There is also possibility that they are alt accounts, but I won't take this as solid proof, just observing things...

How about this user criptoturk, seems he has past merit transaction between the two above, probably merit abuse. See the reference of his bpip information: https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=criptoturk

It is strange that both users misspelled "cripto", one for account and one for social networks, but it is not really a evidence. I didn't check merit transaction yet because it is almost never proof of anything, but sometimes it helps to connect some accounts, if not directly "A with B with C with D" then "A with B" and "C with D".

I'll edit this reply if I found something on my investigation, hopes this isn't a way meddling with your investigation, just want to help though.

Be my guest lol

[YOSHIE]

Surprise surprise, Dontcry. is also banned (I forget to mention that all 3 users can be found in Turkish local, so there must be something...).

Do you really want to beat him up.

Let's see how many Alt accounts he has.

ETH address used by: Dontcry, very clearly @Dontcry has a backup account.

Proof:

Bitcointalk username: Doncry.
Telegram username: @serthan
ETH address:0xfb0f37C0456d60eDEd9b64442dFB0C4847CdD06A

http://archive.is/bS5kB

Accounts Connected:

1. KenannT
2. heleloy06

Proof:

Bitcointalk username: kenannt
Telegram: @serthan
ETH Address: ]0xfb0f37C0456d60eDEd9b64442dFB0C4847CdD06A

http://archive.is/d8ECI

Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5178541.msg52395564#msg52395564

Bitcointalk username: heleloy06
Telegram Username : @serthan
ERC-20 wallet: 0xfb0f37C0456d60eDEd9b64442dFB0C4847CdD06A

http://archive.is/uwvJs


Miscellaneous:

unless there is solid connection between Dontcry. and goraset.

@Dontcry and @goraset.
Using the same Twitter account, as you found in post 2.

Twitter Bounty Report (01.01  -  07.01)

Twitter username: @criptoturk
Twitter Link: http://twitter.com/criptorturk

http://archive.is/TpyEC

Twitter Report
WEEK (27.11 - 03.12)
          
Twitter Link: https://twitter.com/criptoturk

http://archive.is/1r7FO

[marlboroza]

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Your finding is very good, but please, lets keep this thread for goraset's accounts, unless there is solid connection between Dontcry. and goraset. Also, don't forget to read edited post number 3.

Not sure if Dontcry. just copy/pasted previous post

There's a probability that he just copy-pasted the recent post above him

Twitter Link: http://twitter.com/criptorturk

Twitter Link: https://twitter.com/criptoturk

Twilight zone  

[Timelord2067]

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Nice finds there Yoshie.

OP: which is the "Banned" account Your thread says "Ban Evasion", but I'm a little unclear which account is banned?

*edit*

Never mind: Found it: https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=the_doctor (Time for coffee)

[wolwoo]

Konu self-modarete yazacaklarımda kısmen konu dışı ama bu başlık takip edildiği için buraya yazayım dedim.
Meta da şöyle bir başlım açılmış, banlanmamı istiyor arkadaş, iki kelam edeyimde içimde kalmasın ban yersem
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5206872

Başlıkta bahsi geçen hesaplardan criproturk ve the_doctor u ben açtım. the_doctor u bir sürede kullandım .
Ama bounty olaylarının hızlandığı dönemde birini kuzenime birini arkadaşıma verdim. İşi öğrenmelerine yardımcı oldum. Bazen aynı adresi iki hesapta da kullandığımız olmuş, bende başlıkta şimdi gördüm.
Bide Dontcry. diye bi hesapla beni ilişkilendirmişler ama bu arkadaşı tanımam etmem, benim sosyal medya hesaplarını bountye katılırken kullanmış sanırım, muhtemel benim postları copy past yaparak bountylere katılmış.
 the_doctor hesabı banlandı, criptoturk de arkadaşta hesabı aktif kullanmıyor bildiğim kadarıyla. Bounty işi bitince geldikleri gibi gittiler. Bu yaptıklarım ban sebebiyse banlasınlar ne diyim.

2013 den beri forumdayım. Şimdiye kadar kimsenin beş kuruşunu almadım. Kimsenin zarara girmesine sebep olmadım. Aksine cakir, bobmarley, anancra, guwera fonlarında kayıplarım oldu, adını bile hatırlamadığım yerli bitshares üzeri dex projesi vardı ordan ufak bir pay almıştım battı, stunna isimli genç bir arkadaş vardı , borç istedi verdim , bir kısmını ödemedi,  herşeye rağmen yerel topluluğun gelişmesi için maddi ve manevi katkı sunmaya devam ettim. Etmeyede devam edeceğim

Tüm bunların dışında forum benim hayatımın merkezinde değil 36 yaşındayım evliyim 3.5 yaşında bir oğlum var. İyi bir işim ve tr şartları için ortalama üstü bir gelirim var.kripto paralar biraz hobi, biraz ek gelir, daha çok da eğlence benim için, ama zorla forumdan soğutuyorlar. Yabancı hesaplarla sidik yarıştıracak ne enerjim ne vaktim , nede yeterli ingilizcem var.  Sadece sizler bilin diye yazdım.
Hadi kalın sağlıcakla,

Here you go
I'm tired of translating,
some of you

[suchmoon]

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tl;dr:

I opened criproturk and the_doctor from the accounts mentioned in the title. I used the_doctor in a while. But I gave one to my cousin and one to my friend at the time of the bounty. I helped them learn the job. Sometimes we used the same address in both accounts

Cool story.

[wolwoo]

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tl;dr:

I opened criproturk and the_doctor from the accounts mentioned in the title. I used the_doctor in a while. But I gave one to my cousin and one to my friend at the time of the bounty. I helped them learn the job. Sometimes we used the same address in both accounts

Cool story.

"multi not forbidden"  r u understand?

Çoklu Üyelik Kullanımı
Forumda çoklu üyelik kullanımı ile ilgili bir sınırlama bulunmuyor. Aksine kendinizi daha rahat ifade edeceğinizi düşünüyorsanız yeni hesap açarak ana hesabınızdan bağımsız şekilde yazmanız teşvik edilir. Burada unutmamanız gereken nokta bir hesabınız banlanırsa hiçbir hesabınızı ceza süresi boyunca kullanamayacağınızdır. Ban üyeliğe değil, kişiye veriliyor.

"Multiple Membership Usage
There are no restrictions on the use of multiple memberships in the forum. On the contrary, if you feel more comfortable expressing yourself, you are encouraged to open a new account and write it independently from your main account. "

[DireWolfM14]

r u understand?

It's not about multiple accounts, it's about being banned.  When one of your accounts is banned, you as an individual are banned from using the forum.

25. Ban evasion (using or creating accounts while one of your accounts is banned) is not allowed.

[wolwoo]

r u understand?

It's not about multiple accounts, it's about being banned.  When one of your accounts is banned, you as an individual are banned from using the forum.

25. Ban evasion (using or creating accounts while one of your accounts is banned) is not allowed.

So once it's forbidden, will it be a lifetime ban? Like burning coins? no return?

[marlboroza]

Cool story.

It is always cool story. More accounts - more family members, sometimes pets are included.

So once it's forbidden, will it be a lifetime ban? Like burning coins? no return?

It depends on admin. Are you defending scammer again?

[wolwoo]

Cool story.

It is always cool story. More accounts - more family members, sometimes pets are included.

So once it's forbidden, will it be a lifetime ban? Like burning coins? no return?

It depends on admin. Are you defending scammer again?

don't provoke!
goraset is a good person to me, I don't care what you think!
10th anniversary contest, DT1 memberships, source of merit...
You're just jealous! You melting!
these places were satoshi's legacy for you! you lose, humanity will win

I also say again: don't portray yourself as the king of these places because you are not!

[suchmoon]

"multi not forbidden"  r u understand?

And ban evasion is forbidden, as you've been told many times. Stop inventing your own rules and try to learn something. If you're having problems understanding English that's not racism and not an attack on your nation.

[wolwoo]

"multi not forbidden"  r u understand?

And ban evasion is forbidden, as you've been told many times. Stop inventing your own rules and try to learn something. If you're having problems understanding English that's not racism and not an attack on your nation.

1 year ago, the subject "new" as if it presents the search for intent.
If you open a title about 2 Turks in 1 day, I'll look for intention in this.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5181723.0  >><Here we talked again you are doing the same things.

[suchmoon]

1 year ago, the subject "new" as if it presents the search for intent.
If you open a title about 2 Turks in 1 day, I'll look for intention in this.

If 2 Turks are involved in ban evasion do you suggest marlboroza should expose only one of them? Which one?

Or perhaps instead of shooting at the messenger you could care more about the integrity of the Turkish DT members. You're DT1, might want to start acting like one. Now that you have finally learned (I hope) that ban evasion is not allowed you can educate others on your board about it. Just a suggestion, without any racial prejudice.

[wolwoo]

1 year ago, the subject "new" as if it presents the search for intent.
If you open a title about 2 Turks in 1 day, I'll look for intention in this.

If 2 Turks are involved in ban evasion do you suggest marlboroza should expose only one of them? Which one?

Or perhaps instead of shooting at the messenger you could care more about the integrity of the Turkish DT members. You're DT1, might want to start acting like one. Now that you have finally learned (I hope) that ban evasion is not allowed you can educate others on your board about it. Just a suggestion, without any racial prejudice.

for me the case is closed

RETALIATE!!! MARLBOROZA HOW DARE YOU POINT OUT BAN EVADING PLAGIARIZING FUCKWITS IN DT!!!

TRUST ORGANIZED CRIMINAL MAFIA THREAT ABUSE GANG BANG BANG THEYMOS SEE THIS!
@wolwoo, first of all there is no gang, it is all in your head.

Second, if I remember correctly, and my memory still serves me well, when lauda was kicked out of DT (was it last year?) actmyname and I re-tagged many accounts, including me tagging account goraset.

It is not my problem if you don't want to read thread linked in reference and/or you have read it but you are ignoring that they stole someone's translations, presented them as their own and have tried to claim and/or claimed bounty rewards.

Third, I looked at your trust page and I see that you have included me on this date http://loyce.club/trust/2019-09-14_Sat_06.11h/1003533.html so there is no chance that in the last 3 months you didn't see  negative rating on that account, and you really never wondered why negative?

Last thing I will say about this is actually a question, why have you included me if you think that I am "gang member" and you obviously don't trust my judgment?

your job: mafia
kidnapping (from the forum)
threat
silencing
organized crime network
Yallaahhh

@theymos solve this, I trust @theymos
no more idle words

Do you usually trust people who you think they are criminals?

because you didn't support the flag that timelord opened to us

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5181603.0



I thought you were a good guy and decided you were reliable. I wish this right decision would continue. but instead you've accumulated. In the meantime, you also sent me message. Foxpop's sad message was above that. Probably triggered it. DT1, 10th anniversary, merit source, etc. The reason I shared this message was to Foxpop, which added me to the distrust list.

Why did you explode? There was nothing about you!

Removed:

Foxpup

Sigh. First I miss out on the art contest badges, now this. There is no justice.

I think everything is very nice, birds, insects, water sounds, songs ...paradise

I've been elected twice. thanks to everyone

I think everything is very nice, birds, insects, water sounds, songs ...paradise

I've been elected twice. thanks to everyone

Exactly, insects, you got that right, seems that I missed your post, so you are the one who included scammer and ban evader to your trust list:



Second DT1 account which included scammer to trust list is:




And yes, you will see me very very active because I am very very pissed right now. Fucking scammers and ban evaders becoming DT1 members.

my message date>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>December 04, 2019, 03:24:05 AM


your action:

Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account - case #1>>>>December 04, 2019, 05:17:58 PM

message you sent me   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>December 05, 2019, 12:20:16 AM   

Ban evasion by DT1 member - please permaban account - case #2  >>>>>>>>December 05, 2019, 12:28:29 AM


who ordered this war?


"Foxpup has rented my Avatar for 6 weeks now, and made the weekly payments with impeccable punctuality."



someone rich enough to rent an avatar? Someone who doesn't want to get his hands dirty!
HUH!

[Vispilio]

ok there are a few things going on in this situation which I believe the mods and admin should take into consideration before passing judgement:

1) goraset (he admitted this himself) did copy paste an entry on medium website for a bounty submission in the past (circa 2017), which happened outside of this forum, for this he got a neg rating from multiple members already, and this is the primary reason for the ongoing beef some members including Marlboroza have with him for several years..
He apologized for this infraction, said he was new to bounties at the time; what I note from that encounter is that he gave me some examples of many members back in those times, using copy pasted / plagiarized entries for bounty articles, and yet to his knowledge he was the only one who got a neg rating for an identical bounty submission... (I think the reasoning was that his own entries were submitted as links by other people and they got paid, so he had to resort to same in cutthroat competition of 2017 bounty environment)...

I'm just pointing all these out for 1 time as context because lack of interest and defense by some Turkish members on these incessant dramas should not be interpreted as a tacit admission to anything...  

2) the_doctor account: it's the first I ever heard of this account, but goraset recently gave a sincere explanation about this in Turkish which some members have already translated in part, take it for what it's worth.

3) All in all goraset strikes me as an intelligent rational human being with diverse and net positive contributions to the forum. He has made a mistake in the past, which he paid for by being blacklisted from bounties for 2-3 years (and counting). The fact remains that especially during bull runs, the bounties become extremely significant income sources in many parts of the developing world. It's not so outlandish and bizarre as some might think, that in these cases some knowledgeable members invite their brothers, cousins, close friends, wives and girlfriends   to open new accounts and partake from the financial potential presented by the crypto space.

If later one of these side / alt / indirectly related accounts or whatever you call it makes a dire mistake and gets banned, should you go hunting the original account owner, who introduced all these people into the world of crypto currencies, and make him suffer as well ?..

This seems to be the most likely scenario in goraset's case, although it's not my style to pursue these details like an obsessed detective, so it's up to the staff & admin to decide naturally.


All the Best