[Flag] DT ring creation discussion / merit abuse / collusion to harm BCT

[Timelord2067]

My flags are against the following users:

• [Flag] Vispilio for having obtained merits though deception - Vispilio is Latin for NIGHT THIEF [Google Translate]
• [Flag] wolwoo - for wanting to inflict harm among many active users
• [Flag] ekiller for wanting to ...buy BTC with Paypal and became the fraudster
• [Flag] El-cezeri  - for participating in the merit abuse listed in the Alt accounts and signature abusing on Local forum thread
• [Flag] Kalemder  - for participating in the merit abuse listed in the Alt accounts and signature abusing on Local forum thread
• [Flag] gospodin for distributing the merits gifted by Vispilio in the manor Vispilio has instructed them to do so (gospodin is Russian for Mister [Google Translate])
• [Flag] PHI1618 - for likewise distributing the merits obtained by deception to strengthen their circle of merits (PHI1618 is a golden number as well as some other uses for user names etc [Bing]

These threads listed are to be read in conjunction with this thread.

• Vispilio's 🔥 Turkish 🔥 Merit Source Application - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5154371.0 [Archive at ~01:15 30/08/2019 GMT]
• • ⚡ Trust Lists ⚡, Default Trust (1 & 2) Dinamikleri, Dikkat Edilmesi Gerekenler - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5178202.0 [Archive at ~01:15 30/08/2019 GMT]
  • Google Translate to English https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=tr&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fbitcointalk.org%2Findex.php%3Ftopic%3D5178202.0%3Ball
• Alt accounts and signature abusing on Local forum - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5178814.0 [Archive]

On the 15th of June 2019, Vispilio begged for merits on the grounds that the listed posts were worthy of being merited.  As I detail in that thread, immediately prior to that occurring, Vispilio began adding UID's to his DT trust list.  (These people appear to be for the most part real and not alts, so there is a collusion going on).  Once Vispilio received the 95 merits he has handed the lion's share out to the following users:

• El-Cezeri    16    49
• gospodin    9    24
• Kalemder    11    21
• PHI1618    3    20

"The trust lists" thread began on the 23rd of August 2019 and since that time the main players have been adding users into their DT trust list.

Why is this of concern?  Apart from the fact that Vispilio obtained merits through deception and not distributing them as he claimed he would, the rhetoric being used in the second thread is concerning in that they are colluding to cause havoc in the BitCoinTalk thread:

Examples include:

[Post 13 Archive]

 Ben bu foruma ilk üye olduğumda,

Paypal ile BTC satın almak isteyip dolandırıcı muamelesi gördüğüm günleri özler oldum bu DT muhabbetlerinden sonra.

[Google Translate]

When I first became a member of this forum,

After these DT conversations, I wanted to buy BTC with Paypal and became the fraudster.

[Post 40 Archive]

Ben de ekledim hocam sizi.
İlk sayfadaki posta ara ara ekleme yapıyorum, nedir yani şurda 3-5 kişiyiz, hemen herkes az çok birbirini tanıyor. Hakkaten bile isteye aldatmaya, zarara sokmaya çalışan pek görmedim aktif kullanıcılar arasında..
Distrust olayına sonra bakıcam mobilden yazıyorum şu an...

[Google Translate]

I added you, my teacher.
On the first page, I do occasionally add mail, so there are 3-5 people, almost everyone knows each other more or less. Indeed, even willing to deceive, trying to inflict harm among many active users ..
After the Distrust case, I'm writing from my mobile right now ...

Over the week-end my trust list changed to look like this: http://loyce.club/trust/2019-08-31_Sat_06.04h/131361.html



trendcoin may have exposed themself as being an extended part of this merit abuse circle as with marlboroza who "just happened to pick that same time to add me to his distrust list" which I'm sure he'd say if asked. 



marlboroza is a native of Croatia [Archive] judging by his earliest posts:

kako se dobije viši rang? broj postova ili?

[Google Translate]

how to get a higher ranking? number of posts or?

This last week Vispilio removes his "trust" in Lauda http://loyce.club/trust/2019-08-31_Sat_06.04h/982288.html



the same week s/he is asked repeatedly if s/he is Lauda:

goraset [Archive]

Ben yaptığımın doğru olduğunu savunmuyorum, o zaman acemiydik , işi yeni öğneniyorduk,  böyle hatalar yaptık ama karşılığında negatif trustun ağır olduğunu düşünüyorum sadece, herhangi bir bounty konusuna girin, yüzlerce makale plag dan elenir, ama  hatta benim yazdığım birsürü makale direkt linkiyle kopyalanıp gönderiliyordu. Bunlara karşı yapılan işlem sadece en fazla bounty den elemek  oldu. Bir tanesine negatif trust verildiğini duymadım.
Birine bir sebepten negatif trust veriyorsan benzer hareketi yapan tüm hesaplara aynısı yapmalısın , eğer yapmıyorsan ,bu hareket kişiye özel algılanır. Ki bende öğle algıladım, o dönem bouty kovalayan yüksek rank li türk hesaplarını bir şekilde saf dışı bırakmaya çalışıyorlardı. Bende nasibimi aldım.
 theymosun   bile distrust listesinde olan  lauda  eklenebiliyorsa ben fazlası ile eklenebilirim diye düşünüyorum. Birini tek bir olaya göre yargılamazsın, bir bütün  olarak değerlendirirsin.
Kaldı ki neg trust alan biri eklnememez diye bir kaide yok, sonuçta bu ekleyenin kişisel görüşü,  yine de ekleyene de çıkarana da teşekkür ediyorum, bir alınganlığım yok . Sadece durum tespiti yaptım, baskı sonucu kaldırmışlardır diye sende doğrulamışsın zaten dediğimi.

Esas ben lauda yı dt listene niye eklediğinin cevabını verirsin diye bekledim, ama nedense o konuya hiç girmedim, Lauda senin güvenini kazanacak ne yaptı acaba. 15 haziran dan beri dt listende
http://loyce.club/trust/2019-08-24_Sat_08.13h/982288.html

[Google Translate]

I waited for you to answer why you added lauda to your dt list, but somehow I never got into that, I wonder what Lauda did to gain your trust. In your dt list since 15 June
http://loyce.club/trust/2019-08-24_sat_08.13h/982288.html

(the 15th of June is when Vispilio starts their merit begging thread)

Vispilio deflects attention away from the accusation of being Lauda by putting myself up as the new target of the groups' distrust.

Vispilio is again asked about being Lauda:

bobit to [Archive]

Yalnız goraset in sorduğu sorunun cevabını ben de duymak isterim açıkçası.

[Google Translate]

However, I would like to hear the answer to the question that goraset asked.

Vilpilio answers

Yalnız goraset in sorduğu sorunun cevabını ben de duymak isterim açıkçası.

3 mesaj yukarıya bak

...

3 posts see above

Which is strange becuase the third post above talks about owlcatz distrusting these people: [Archive]

Ekledim bende o garip komplocuyu.

Ama hayret ediyorum. Sathoshi'nin kurduğu forum bu değil. Trust ve merit sistemi tamamen değiştirmiş tüm havayı. Sonuçta ortada sadece komplocu piskopatlar kalacak. Diğer tüm üyeler küsüp sıkılıp gidecek. Çoğu eski üyeyi burda bulamıyor olmanın sebebi de bu hava demek ki.

İlk zamanlar, aleni bir local forum düşmanlığı düşünmek saçma geliyordu. Ancak loyce.club'da bakın, bizim yerel forumda ilk 150 giren herkesi bir şekilde distrust listesine almışlar. Yine inanmak istemeyip, başka üyelere baktım yok. Adamlar resmen isim isim tespit etmişler. Bu duruma gülsem mi ağlasam mı tam karar veremedim.

Yoruma kesinlikle katılıyorum, o kadar saçma bir durum için uğraşıyorlar ki, insanın lanet olsun bu düzene deyip gidesi geliyor. DT seçilmiş olan arkadaşlar şuan ne kadar saçma bir ortamın içinde kaldığımızı biliyorlar, muhtemel potansiyeli olan arkadaşlar da yakında öğrenirler.

Mesela bakalım Kalemder hocayı kimler distrust yapmış.

~Kalemder is Distrusted by:
1. klaaas (Trust: +11 / =0 / -0) (31 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. owlcatz (Trust: +38 / =0 / -1) (DT1! (25) 224 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Bu arkadaşlar genelde bizden herkesi yapmış, biraz daha yükselince diğerleri de geliyor.

[Google Translate]

For example, let's see who made Kalemder teacher distrust.

~ Kalemder is Distrusted by:
1. Klaaas (Trust: +11 / = 0 / -0) (31 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. owlcatz (Trust: +38 / = 0 / -1) (DT1! (25) 224 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

These friends usually made everyone of us, a little higher when others come.

So, let's look at the Trust list for: klaaas http://loyce.club/trust/2019-08-31_Sat_06.04h/147451.html



it goes over the page. klaaas removed their entire distrust list over this last week-end...

Likewise, owlcatz removed 25 of their distrust this last week-end: http://loyce.club/trust/2019-08-31_Sat_06.04h/313016.html




All the users I'm flagging and others in their discussion groups all removed by Owlcatz in the same week-end that they in turn distrust me.


LaudaM/Lauda is from Croatia:

Moderator https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1116199.0 [Archive]

Hello.
I've volunteered as a moderator for the Croatian subsection. I've been pretty much given a green light and have been advised to ask for approval of the community (seems very reasonable).
I would like to become a forum moderator because, I feel like I could help a bigger group of people that are asking for information in addition to making some modification to the section itself. As a moderator I'll continue being positive and engaging and more active in the community (local board; which I previously have not) and keep the subsection clean by moving and ordering threads. I will always be neutral and I'm going to ensure that members follow forum rules and guidelines.

If you have anything against me being a moderator, please post below (possibly in English so that theymos can read it and decide).

Note: This is not a discussion about the need for a moderator, hence the self-moderated thread (admins can see deleted posts anyways).

Pozdrav. Nisam mislio da napišem sve ponovo na hrvatskom, jer se nadam da svi mogu razumjeti tekst iznad. Ukoliko netko ima pitanje ili mu nešto nije jasno slobodno neka pita ili mi se javi putem privatne poruke.
Također ukoliko netko ima nešto konkretno protiv mene molio bih da obrazložite svoje razloge, a ne samo da napišete da se ne slažete s ovime. Mislim da će hrvata biti mnogo više definitivno kada Bitcoin dosegne novu razinu, te da će biti veća potreba za moderatorima.

~Lauda  Smiley

marlboroza is from Croatia (see above)

I'm not suggesting there's any connection between LaudaM/Lauda and marlboroza (goodness me no - perish the thought)  but it's uncanny that the so-called ring master (Vilpilio) is accused of being Lauda then locks that thread three hours later and two other UID's (owlcatz and klaaas) both remove their trust of the merit-go-round abuse network.  I can't see any connection between these five users other than the timing of their trust modification this last week.

http://loyce.club/trust/2019-07-13_Sat_08.22h/101872.html nine days after this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5161689.0;all

@theymos @suchmoon @LoyceV @darkstar_ @EFS

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[ekiller]

Dear @Timelord2067  

Your google translate is it has the wrong meaning from Turkish to English.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5178202.msg52266708#msg52266708

What i want to say above link can be translated as like this   :  

I miss the old times of the forum without DT race.
I wanted to buy btc with paypal when I was a new member (newbie) here.  And the community thought I was a scammer.
Even miss those days

So talking about past tense link above. Unfortunately Google translate misleads you.

Of course this is not your fault.  Fault of Google Translate.

[marlboroza]

Why is my nick in this thread?

[Vispilio]

Dear Theymos & well meaning DT1 members,

One of the greatest threats to the well being of this forum is idle trolls like Timelord2067 who have an astonishing amount of empty leisure time on their hands, and their hidden enablers, who have a well-concealed deep seated prejudice against certain nationalities and take a sadistic pleasure in seeing certain local parts of the forum routinely disparaged and persecuted...

Every allegation the nasty troll Timelord2067 raised against me and the Turkish section has been refuted with ample evidence, you can read my many responses to him in the following links:

1) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5154371.msg52300298#msg52300298

2) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5098623.msg52294272#msg52294272

3) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5178814.msg52280763#msg52280763


User Timelord2067 is already on the ignore and distrust list of many Turkish users; since he has no intentions of stopping his hateful campaign of stalking, misrepresenting (with false auto translate services) and outright lying about the Turkish part of the forum, we will immediately proceed to open a flag about him now.

Looking forward to the final resolution of this matter, as the most boring part of participating in this great forum for me is having to deal with  hateful and completely vacant NPC trolls like him and their secret and not so secret promoters...

[wolwoo]

This place is getting boring now. Turkish members are permanently removed from the forum. My English is limited! it seems that your Turkish is limited! We both get help from google translate. With a difference:
For you slander
We are for defense

Long live the justice



All the Turkish enemies say: "I have a dream (MartinLutherKing) Turkish forum should be closed and the Turks should be banned."

I have a dream: "Let everyone live brotherly in peace"

[Hey there Delilah]

There are lots of abusing, its not about race. its just a sample for alt account abuse. its not the only one. There are lots of abusing.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg52270214#msg52270214

2 Accounts Connected:

Bitcoin Forum > Local > Türkçe (Turkish)

El-Cezeri, Kalemder,

Proof:
Hi there;

my english is not so good, but i will try to explain it;

2 Accounts connected on local forum, they entered lots of signature bounties;



Here some evidences;


2. Both are  follower of Erbakan Hodja  (Erdogan's hodja) and the only person in the country who writes about Bitcoin and Erbakan's unification of islam against western economic culture.

Kalemder
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2312539.msg23538970#msg23538970

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2312539.msg23467041#msg23467041

El-cezeri

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5162605.msg51738090;topicseen#msg51738090


3. Both of the previous signatures were the same, the bounties they entered were the same regularly. for example, in ferrum, one asks when the signature will be distributed, and the other answers the wrong membership


Kalemder

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5169415.msg52028060#msg52028060

El ceziri

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5169415.msg52027694#msg52027694

4. After removing the writings of both at the same time, a concise word-aphorism was written.


5. They both enter the Asura, luckily neither of them sells for a long time and they both write losses.


Kalemder loss money in the asura ico

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4598243.msg42093106#msg42093106

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3874758.msg41201768#msg41201768

Al-Ceziri remembers the old days, about he loses in asura ico

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4598243.msg51696342#msg51696342

6- both of them on the same day binance margin on the pondering questions.

No need to write about it already has 30-40 posts.

He follows the lord of the rings news every week,

el ceziri;

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5157246.msg51916484#msg51916484

Kalemder makes profile photos about the lord of the rings from time to time. He writes lots of gandalf's aforism in time to time. his signature was a gandalfs aforism.



8. Both claimed that the telegram was swindled by group admins. One of them opened the subject in this matter, both wisdom in the same way, the same tactics are being defrauded in the post telegram admins and he said they are scammers.


Kalemder

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5143406.0

el ceziri

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4576893.msg41308657#msg41308657


9.  they both have 30.000 Turkis liras  pc, he occasionally put the photos of this pc, and remove.  About this pc One screen of the PC stands vertically on the table, not horizontal, and both PCs have Dual 1080 Graphics cards. both have 1 ethereum rig.


Kalemder
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4846529.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2080023.msg20789030#msg20789030

El ceziri

Recently, a person who wants to collect a pc out of the subject, he said I have 30 thousand liralik PC double 1080 li, there is also a rig post,

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5170462.msg52008065#msg52008065

the sad part;

10. on last month, he activated his inactive sub-membership to make full member via collect merit. later, on off-topic boards he ask about how to collect merit and he opened a board and he asked for positive trust from people.  Last 2 weeks kalemder most merited to el- cezeri and el ceziri most merited to kalemder.

Favorite profiles to send sMerit to
el cezeri to Kalemder      8   (the most)


Favorite profiles to send sMerit to

Kalemder to el-cezeri  19        (the most)




And he accepts these claims;

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5157246.msg52114023#msg52114023


translated;

Hahaha, shove it! Forum's new magazine topic

I'm Kalemder. Besides, he's your best Thank you.
Cezeri is not the same person as me, But i don't mean he is different, he's a relative (family).  We are using same PC.  I've even mixed up his account while using the same computer. Some times I mix my account with he.

Come on, it doesn't matter. This is a place where anonymous ideas meet anonymously.

both accounts online everytime and he is online with his relative on same pc. and he uses his relatives accounts at same pc at same time. its a bullshit lie.

There are 30 evidences about this alt-account. I can add more and more. All members know he is the same.  You can use Google translate to translate the post, or you can ask me to translate it, i can help you. We suffer in local forum for merit farming for alt accounts, abusing, sub-accounts and signature abusing.


I hope some DT persons or other forum members can help about that



Miscellaneous:

Any other comments you may have belong here.

[wolwoo]

You're a liar delilah! you're an empty person who scribbles people. you write your claims and lock the page

[Lauda]

Why is my nick in this thread?

Why is my alt's nick in this thread?

[wolwoo]

The truth is, friends: There are monuments of arrogance that cannot attract each other in this forum. And one of them is Turkish. Delilah is this person's side account.
Not only that, it's a gang that trolls in the forum, has a side account and wants to stir up the forum! These exist both globally and in our forum. Just a day islamicoin has been banned in the forum.

The forum won't be comfortable until it clears such gangs and collaborators.

[marlboroza]

Why is my nick in this thread?

Why is my alt's nick in this thread?

Uups, wrong account.

[Timelord2067]

Thanks to @Hey there Delilah for reminding people that there are alts amongst us in this thread.

The fact that a flag can be started against myself as retaliation offering no proof shows how desperate this merit abuse group is.

[wolwoo]

Thanks to @Hey there Delilah for reminding people that there are alts amongst us in this thread.

The fact that a flag can be started against myself as retaliation offering no proof shows how desperate this merit abuse group is.

We've opened a flag against you because you're a freak who sees himself as a god!
Who are you to judge us, learn Turkish first, hick of time!

[LoyceV]

We've opened a flag against you because you're a freak who sees himself as a god!

Who is "We" in this sentence?

You've just admitted Flag abuse:

Creating or supporting a scammer flag is actively affirming a set of pretty clear fact-statements. If someone knowingly supports a flag containing incorrect fact-statements, then that is crystal-clear abuse, and I will seek to have such people removed from DT ASAP. People who are habitually wrong, even not knowingly, should also be removed.

Quoting myself:

However, your Flag is clearly incorrect. I see no reason in this topic why this would be true:

Due largely to the factors mentioned in this topic, I believe that anyone dealing with Timelord2067 is at a high risk of losing money, and guests would be well-advised to avoid doing so. This determination is based on concrete red flags which any knowledgeable & reasonable forum user should agree with, and it is not based on the user's opinions.

Therefore, I have Opposed the Flag.

[wolwoo]

We've opened a flag against you because you're a freak who sees himself as a god!

Who is "We" in this sentence?

You've just admitted Flag abuse:

Creating or supporting a scammer flag is actively affirming a set of pretty clear fact-statements. If someone knowingly supports a flag containing incorrect fact-statements, then that is crystal-clear abuse, and I will seek to have such people removed from DT ASAP. People who are habitually wrong, even not knowingly, should also be removed.

Quoting myself:

However, your Flag is clearly incorrect. I see no reason in this topic why this would be true:

Due largely to the factors mentioned in this topic, I believe that anyone dealing with Timelord2067 is at a high risk of losing money, and guests would be well-advised to avoid doing so. This determination is based on concrete red flags which any knowledgeable & reasonable forum user should agree with, and it is not based on the user's opinions.

Therefore, I have Opposed the Flag.

Dude dude
You're after the wrong thing. My English is insufficient, ridiculous claims. And you choose my words with tweezers?
I'm very nervous right now because one lunatic throws stones into the well and can't get 40 smarts.
Instead of judging me, judge the allegations first and don't try to look neutral because you fail.

[Hey there Delilah]

Who is "We" in this sentence?

They are (not only)

Visipilo
Trust list topic  (they are listing DT list for local. its abusing and pressure for local members)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5178202.msg52241677#msg52241677

Kalemder
Trust list topic (for adding DT to each other. its a abuse)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5179926.0

wolwoo    
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5178202.msg52358568#msg52358568


for example today some accusation appeared about they and They fastly organised for voting opposite flag. They are voting like a gang, they are merit alt accounts like a gang.  they are publishing DT list like a gang.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5178202.msg52358255#msg52358255

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5178202.msg52358186#msg52358186

They are ruined our forum community.  and they are playing racism card. its not about race.

[The-One-Above-All]

I think OP you will find this kind of thing is how the systems of control are intended to operate.

How else would you explain

Huge swathes of DT1 are all their own merit top fans and recipients.

Huge swathes of DT1 are all undeniably guilty of observable wrongdoing with clear financial motivation but still all mostly find each other prime candidates for DT1 whilst red trusting other for far less serious deeds.

Huge swathes of DT1 all being paid out at the highest rates for gambling and mixing sigs.

This is relevant because although you may believe you have discovered merit abuse (the key to enabling the rest) merit is mostly applied for politically contrived garbage and can be given for any subjective reason and cycled clearly between a handful of people and theymos does not consider it clear abuse.

Moronbozo , lauda and tman are clearly dirty (well tman and lauda are clearly dirty with moronbozo a well know supporter of them)

The harder and deeper you dig, the more you will become distrusted. Next you will be given a flag and more red trust by them. Next you will notice you gave a true legend a scam tag for presenting the truth regarding these very same people previously just because you liked moronbozo back then and didn't see him for the scammer supporting trust abusing little shit stain he is. Direct language if backed with observable instances that justify it are simply HONEST and OPEN expressions of truth. You may want to keep that in mind timelord.

Keep taking the red pills until you open your eyes fully then await being cast as a troll and a financial danger or SCAMMER.

Keep digging, your investigative skills and the time you spend on this are rather impressive. We are starting to like you and don't even mind you supported our flag. We would not delete your account here even if theymos gave us the power to do so.

If we had more merits you would surely get some.

Lauda and moronbozo and the rest won't care when they get booted if they get busted in the future because the systems of control allow them to power up alts with the bogus merit so they will be on DT one way or another anyway if they wish. Blame the game not the player ... or something like that.

Robovac would see this too if he was not so jacked on his merits to see the entire merit system is cancer and broken piece of junk. Can't we get loyceV a nice shiny best member badge that does not rely on merits? perhaps that would help him progress to the V6 that may be net positive here.

Not nice getting a flag or red trust for whistle blowing is it timelord. Look forward to more if you are starting to wake up to lauda and that bunch of dirt. Still there is hope if you present your findings on meta board to highlight just how easily the system is gamed and abused.

Still the guy has a point, you say they are abusing merit but ignore the flagrant abuse by huge swathes of DT1. It all boils down to merit. The cancerous subjective and dangerous dirt that was designed to combat bots and farmers but then magically became TRUST LOL

[Hey there Delilah]

Shut the fuck up and get back in that hole, troll!

I trust the person I want
I give merit to the person I want
Do you ask anyone while you do these things? NO!
Then stop judging me and my friends and mute your voice.

they are act like that in local forum. and playing good guy in here,    

they are act like here:  oh you are racist. europeans and americans you are racist. they fraud our forum with alt accounts, merit abusing and DT vote abusing.

[wolwoo]

Shut the fuck up and get back in that hole, troll!

I trust the person I want
I give merit to the person I want
Do you ask anyone while you do these things? NO!
Then stop judging me and my friends and mute your voice.

they are act like that in local forum. and playing good guy in here,    

they are act like here:  oh you are racist. europeans and americans you are racist. they fraud our forum with alt accounts, merit abusing and DT vote abusing.

I got a bounty for 1 time in my life. it was also more than a year. You want to get rid of everyone because you want the title deed of the forum.

I'm addressing forum administrators. I HAVE ONE ACCOUNT. ONLY GIVE MERIT TO PEOPLE THAT I VALUE. I LOVED PEOPLE TO TRUST LIST.
IF YOU PUNCH ME, I LEAVE THIS FORUM. I will never come again. BECAUSE THERE IS NOT JUSTICE, I WILL NOT BE.

[mindrust]

 Ben bu foruma ilk üye olduğumda,

Paypal ile BTC satın almak isteyip dolandırıcı muamelesi gördüğüm günleri özler oldum bu DT muhabbetlerinden sonra.

[Google Translate]

When I first became a member of this forum,

After these DT conversations, I wanted to buy BTC with Paypal and became the fraudster.

This translate isn't accurate.

The more accurate version would be

"I miss the days when I was being accused for being a fraudster when I wanted to buy BTC with Paypal, after seeing this DT stuff"

(people don't like the sellers/buyers who do business with paypal because paypal's chargeback dynamics is fucked up.)

I really don't want to join this drama but I don't think you really thought this well before making an accusation.

[mindrust]

[Post 40 Archive]

Ben de ekledim hocam sizi.
İlk sayfadaki posta ara ara ekleme yapıyorum, nedir yani şurda 3-5 kişiyiz, hemen herkes az çok birbirini tanıyor. Hakkaten bile isteye aldatmaya, zarara sokmaya çalışan pek görmedim aktif kullanıcılar arasında..
Distrust olayına sonra bakıcam mobilden yazıyorum şu an...

[Google Translate]

I added you, my teacher.
On the first page, I do occasionally add mail, so there are 3-5 people, almost everyone knows each other more or less. Indeed, even willing to deceive, trying to inflict harm among many active users ..
After the Distrust case, I'm writing from my mobile right now ...

Again, another fail translation which may mislead you.

"Hakkaten bile isteye aldatmaya, zarara sokmaya çalışan pek görmedim aktif kullanıcılar arasında.. "

Means,

"I haven't really seen anybody who wanted to deceive and scam other people among the active users."