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December 13, 2019, 07:11:19 AM
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The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.
it's natural because the Bounty Hunter doesn't want to think long, after what he got he would want to immediately sell it, because what I know is that the bounty hunter wants to get immediate results from his work that sometimes months that month.  different from the investors of the project who want to benefit from price increases.
Not my criterion in holding coins from bounty results for a long time, the longest I have held in altcoin only within two months after listing on the exchange. on average for now I only get shitcoin, so if I get a valuable coin it's happiness and (toast)  Cool. due to the fact that currently accepted altcoin there is no potential when the market conditions are bad. If you can hold altcoin in the long run that means you are great at taking risks.

same here , i dont also like to hodl my coins for a long time but i love to sell them as soon as poosible so that i can enjoy my hardwork from working a long time in a bounty that i joined  . 

short or long term , both are still have risk  . once we enter the world of crypto we are already expose to many risk  . also we all have a fear of dumping , that is why i choose to be a short term hodler/trader but for an ico owner its their responsibility already if their coins would dump or not  .
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December 13, 2019, 07:26:11 AM
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The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.
it's natural because the Bounty Hunter doesn't want to think long, after what he got he would want to immediately sell it, because what I know is that the bounty hunter wants to get immediate results from his work that sometimes months that month.  different from the investors of the project who want to benefit from price increases.
Not my criterion in holding coins from bounty results for a long time, the longest I have held in altcoin only within two months after listing on the exchange. on average for now I only get shitcoin, so if I get a valuable coin it's happiness and (toast)  Cool. due to the fact that currently accepted altcoin there is no potential when the market conditions are bad. If you can hold altcoin in the long run that means you are great at taking risks.

You are the same as me when we receive a valuable token from a bounty, so I will sell it no matter what price it is, I will definitely sell it because if we hold it within 1-2 months, it will sometimes be worthless. When we received the token when it was only $ 100 then held a month later to $ 20, it was very annoying so I never held the token long from the bounty and I thought it would be shitcoin.

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December 13, 2019, 08:01:48 AM
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Many of you said that the bounty payment makes the huge dump. Is it even worth for new project to do bounties anymore?
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December 13, 2019, 08:32:21 AM
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Many of you said that the bounty payment makes the huge dump. Is it even worth for new project to do bounties anymore?
Not at all, bounty only is a small part of the total supply so it can not effect too much to the market. To make a huge dump, we need a combination of fudders,whales and panic investors.
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December 13, 2019, 08:38:06 AM
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Many of you said that the bounty payment makes the huge dump. Is it even worth for new project to do bounties anymore?
Not at all, bounty only is a small part of the total supply so it can not effect too much to the market. To make a huge dump, we need a combination of fudders,whales and panic investors.
For small volume altcoin, even half of the bounty hunter's dump is enough to collapse the price, the market will react quickly to the huge supply. imagine dumping of the 2 percent of the bounty allocation directly to the market orders, what will happen is obvious. That is the reason investors join the bounty hunters and they dump first for collecting cheap later after dip prices.

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December 13, 2019, 08:46:10 AM
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That is maybe because the team developers want to have their tokens spread out and the community to be aware of it. If you are going to give hunters an ETH or BTC payments it is another loss to their funds most especially if the ICO or IEO don't turn out really well. Most Bounty Campaigns nowadays lock their tokens out before distributing or the team would distribute rewards installment (monthly basis just like what Tokoin is doing) to about massive dumping.
If the project is for real have the intentions to continue the progress the team will not be doing that and not being afraid to any dumped that might happened. They will keep what they've promised as hunters can also be convert to investors if the project do have real potentials to grow. Those developers who's delaying the distributions are unprepared to any scenarios that might happened and most are just creates coins for personal gains.
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December 13, 2019, 09:02:37 AM
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Many of you said that the bounty payment makes the huge dump. Is it even worth for new project to do bounties anymore?
Hello, who said the pay was huge? and who pays so much? please explain in full, don't just write a single word, because it can make a lot of people curious about what you mean. And every project is always open to do the prize program again, although it has also been done before, you can see examples such as project credits, swapzilla, and several other projects.
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December 13, 2019, 09:08:29 AM
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but considering a lot of projects now are just money hungry and don't care about much other than than money, those running the projects are probably okay with the potential of dumping right after launch.
because they are already to got a lot of money, no need afraid if their goal are achieved.
I think because the project doesn't have the money to pay the bounty hunters, they only want to pay with the tokens they made, tokens that don't have a price yet
i dont know about 'doesnt have money to pay bounty' when they reach softcap, they can calculate how much they spend their money for hunter.
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December 13, 2019, 09:18:31 AM
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The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.

it indicates that their project is not good, as long as I join the bounty, sometimes there are some bounties who are afraid of it because investors are too fussy they are afraid of the price being dumped by the bounty hunter even though if calculated they only give 1-2% of supply or token sold. I don't think there will be a deep drop if it's all thrown away, sometimes they won't throw it together, more towards to hold. if the project is good and earns a lot of money shouldn't worry about it, eventually, the price will recover. they can't possibly pay with ETH, because they also don't want to lose money from the sale of their tokens.
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December 13, 2019, 09:30:17 AM
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The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.

This kind of thinking is what makes the bounty campaign more complicated for bounty hunters especially the newbies as they will fear that their work and effort will end up to nothing.

But before we conclude anything we should think first if how much the project owners allocate to their bounty campaigns. Usually it ranges from 1-10% of their total coins/tokens but they often offers like 1-3%, do you think this kind of allocation will really affect the price of their tokens/coins upon reaching the exchange? Frankly speaking, the dump of their investors and team behind the project is what makes the price of their tokens/coins goes down pretty badly.

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December 13, 2019, 09:35:03 AM
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Many of you said that the bounty payment makes the huge dump. Is it even worth for new project to do bounties anymore?
Not at all, bounty only is a small part of the total supply so it can not effect too much to the market. To make a huge dump, we need a combination of fudders,whales and panic investors.
even if that was a small percentage from the total supply and imagine if there will be no book erders in the market and can such coin avoid the dump? it cant. Dump is not always caused by the whales or even panic investors and try to do your research about that.

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December 13, 2019, 09:56:10 AM
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They are making their own token so that they are not making payments using bitcoin or ethereum or I think yes, it is possible that after their project is not successful, maybe they can give bounty hunters some bitcoin or ethereum as payment for joining and making their project possible. Projects sometimes are not getting successful and we are already aware of that, so maybe it is also a good thing that owners of bounties do something to pay those hunters some of their efforts using bitcoin or ethereum.

You really don't know how the world works yet then, do you?

This is how things should happen ideally, and in a nice world. But in reality project owners are selfish. As they are businessmen, not really crypto people. Remember, they need money, that's the whole reason they set up the project in the first place. If they didn't find success what makes you think they care about bounty hunters, who themselves also don't give a thought to the project other than for money?

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December 13, 2019, 10:07:16 AM
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This is a good idea that I have been demanding for. But there are some projects that want to make money just through crowdfunding and a means of ICO, IEO etc for the benefit of themselves only. They are not so serious about making their projects a success. They just depend on a luck. So they do not dare pay bounty in eth or btc, but reward bounty hunters in their probably useless tokens.

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December 13, 2019, 10:23:56 AM
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The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.

Bitcoin and Ethereum are already their profits, they cannot make a guaranty that their token will have a value at all in the market and at the price they want on it, if the project is a scam, they can always leave the project and take the profit with them, that is the sales of their token.

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December 13, 2019, 10:57:48 AM
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but what's the point in coins if they are not listed on the exchange. Least of all the team thinks about the income of hunters, and first of all about their own profits and minimize losses. there are not so many bounty hunters that they greatly shaken the value of the coin. this fact is quite exaggerated among hunters

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December 13, 2019, 10:58:50 AM
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The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.
One reason why they are paying the bounty hunters their own native token instead of either Bitcoin or Ethereum is that, they don't want to invest more money to marketing. They don't want to invest their own money into a token which is not sure if it will become a successful project or not. That is the reason why they are not paying thru BTC or ETH.

With the fear of dumping, yes bounty hunters are one of the dumpers but it will be a few % of the whole token value compare to the investors whose percentage is far more than what is allocated to give rewards to the bounty hunters. If you will see the allocation between the bounty hunters and investors, it is always the investors who has a highest allocation and that is why they have more chances of dumping it so the fault goes to the investors themselves. Also the team too are the ones dumping their own token for the sake of profit.

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December 13, 2019, 11:00:44 AM
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The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.

A real project focuses on to achieve their roadmap. A dumping of 5% of their token won't make any difference. Exchange listing is one of the checkpoint in the roadmap.
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December 13, 2019, 01:25:28 PM
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The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.

A real project focuses on to achieve their roadmap. A dumping of 5% of their token won't make any difference. Exchange listing is one of the checkpoint in the roadmap.
The team really has no time watching at the coin price movement if they are really dedicated to deliver what they have stated they would.

Yeah, the situation happened in 2017, but not now. Of the many projects from last year, most of them have become shitcoin now, almost all of them. I have also seen some real projects in the past year, but even though the developers have worked hard according to what they stated before. All of that is still inferior to a dumping done by bounty hunters, in fact this is not the fault of the bounty hunters but the market has turned around, where investors' interest is even smaller compared to that of 2017.
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December 13, 2019, 01:32:36 PM
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The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.
One reason why they are paying the bounty hunters their own native token instead of either Bitcoin or Ethereum is that, they don't want to invest more money to marketing. They don't want to invest their own money into a token which is not sure if it will become a successful project or not. That is the reason why they are not paying thru BTC or ETH.

With the fear of dumping, yes bounty hunters are one of the dumpers but it will be a few % of the whole token value compare to the investors whose percentage is far more than what is allocated to give rewards to the bounty hunters. If you will see the allocation between the bounty hunters and investors, it is always the investors who has a highest allocation and that is why they have more chances of dumping it so the fault goes to the investors themselves. Also the team too are the ones dumping their own token for the sake of profit.

That was right dude! most bounty now a day want to pay on their own altcoin maybe they have no huge budget to pay bitcoin or ethereum but this is normal on crypto world maybe you will avoid this kind of situation by joining on bitcoin or ethereum bounty payment.

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December 13, 2019, 01:38:08 PM
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The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.

A real project focuses on to achieve their roadmap. A dumping of 5% of their token won't make any difference. Exchange listing is one of the checkpoint in the roadmap.
The team really has no time watching at the coin price movement if they are really dedicated to deliver what they have stated they would.

Yeah, the situation happened in 2017, but not now. Of the many projects from last year, most of them have become shitcoin now, almost all of them. I have also seen some real projects in the past year, but even though the developers have worked hard according to what they stated before. All of that is still inferior to a dumping done by bounty hunters, in fact this is not the fault of the bounty hunters but the market has turned around, where investors' interest is even smaller compared to that of 2017.

Dumping is currently still not resolved when distribution is made to hunters, dumping will occur if the team has prepared a "buyback" of tokens again to return to normal prices on the market, and that too must have reserve funds or the results of ICO / IEO fundraising.
Don't rely on investors to buy because it's hard to trust anymore.

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