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February 20, 2020, 09:03:20 PM
Last edit: February 20, 2020, 09:13:40 PM by philipma1957
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I am still running 2 m20s and 1 m21s

all pull over 3200 watts.

I used these cables


https://www.ebay.com/itm/L6-30P-to-C19-Molded-Power-Cord-10ft-220V-250V-30A-Ships-Free/202904653534?

I would consider buying one of these just because it does have most hash rate of any unit out there.

But the risk factors are high.

Due march 20-30

very easy for that to come on May 5  a 35-40 day delay

The ½ ing comes on May 1 to May 10

You could lose  30 plus pre ½ ing days of mining.

Not sure I want to risk this.  Pangolin was very good to me from August 2018 up to August 2019.  They then had a lot off late shipping issues.  I am not sure I want to lay out 2400 and not be sure of delivery.

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February 23, 2020, 02:26:27 PM
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The price they are asking seems way too high for a miner that will only see a month of pre-halving operation (if they ship on time). The only way this price makes sense to me is if you expect BTC price to double or diff to halve before or very close after the halving. If that happens, then ROI with 5c/kWh power is about 250 days. If price and diff remain the same, then ROI with 5c/kWh power is 435 days, 500 days if they are late and you miss all pre-halving mining. Judging by how Bitmain has priced their miners in the past, I'm guessing they'll crush this price when they release their 5nm miners.

Have some dead Bitmain 17 series hashboards or full miners?
I'll buy them ... send me a PM with what you have and I'll make you an offer!
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February 23, 2020, 02:58:14 PM
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The price they are asking seems way too high for a miner that will only see a month of pre-halving operation (if they ship on time). The only way this price makes sense to me is if you expect BTC price to double or diff to halve before or very close after the halving. If that happens, then ROI with 5c/kWh power is about 250 days. If price and diff remain the same, then ROI with 5c/kWh power is 435 days, 500 days if they are late and you miss all pre-halving mining. Judging by how Bitmain has priced their miners in the past, I'm guessing they'll crush this price when they release their 5nm miners.

funny you should mention this.  I was on pangolin website looking at  the m21  a 60 watt machine which ships to usa in 5 days.

cost of 600 bucks does 27 th

so buy 3  send one to your brother and one to your house and one to you mother.  legally avoids trump tax

cost of 3 x 600 = 1800 for 81 th  the three pieces are in stock and should show in 10 days or less.


but 1 m30 = 2700 for 81th   the unit will show in 30 days if lucky    you may pay 650 trump tax  cost of 3300

so same hash  for  900 to 1500 more usd.   and at  least a 20 day delay  to get the 38 watt single m30  vs the 60 watt 3 m21

for 20 days 80th = 250

so I am 1150 to 1750 in the hole  buying the new gear assuming they show on time. (hmm how often is that)

38 x 80 = 3100 watts
60 x 80 = 4800 watts

a 1700 watt difference  lets make it 2000  that is 2 kwatts x 24 = 48 kwatts a day   lets make it 50 kwatts a day

at 5 cents that is 2.50 a day in power savings.   so 1150/2.50 = 460 days    and 1750/2.50 = 700 days

 so buying 1 m30s will  take 460 to 700 days  to make up the price difference

over buying 3 m21 pieces of gear.

So as much as you may want the  m30s  it simply makes close to zero $$ sense at 5 cent power.

you can argue it makes sense at 10 cent power  but  it still means 230 to 350 days  to make up for the  extra cost of the m30


and we all know mining at 10 cent power = loser for the last few years.

I did factor with and without trump tax.
I did not factor what if the psu breaks 

on the m30s you have zero hash
on the m21  you have 3 pieces so 1 dead one means you have 53 or 54 th left.

So for those that want the best gear  they are paying a high premium for it.

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February 28, 2020, 01:06:09 AM
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Is this shipper valid?  Price seems too good to be true:

https://microbtmining.com/product/microbt-whatsminer-m30s/

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February 28, 2020, 01:10:50 AM
Last edit: February 29, 2020, 02:42:46 AM by frodocooper
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I would not use them.

every one else says  April shipping they say 1 week.  I would deactivate the link.

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February 28, 2020, 01:21:28 AM
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Yeah, 2 red-flags - half the price of some other sites, and faster delivery...  greed is, however, a powerful if often foolish, motivator.

Just have 150+ S9s that haven't been profitable to run for some time.  Were at $10,200, but are not now.  Am looking to re-bootstrap my shop - but likely going to wait post-halving now and see what reality is.

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March 23, 2020, 04:44:07 PM
Last edit: March 24, 2020, 10:35:54 AM by frodocooper
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These machines are avaliable now and being shipped.

I saw Vincent VP whatsminer posted this price list and avalability in social media

Very competitive pricing for the m30 and m31 ranges.

https://ibb.co/dMSBj9B
https://ibb.co/n8GYLH9
https://ibb.co/pQcSzQP

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March 23, 2020, 09:50:50 PM
Last edit: March 24, 2020, 10:36:20 AM by frodocooper
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Pangolin has a m31s  to ship late may

https://pangolinminer.com/product/whatsminer-m31s-with-psu/

who cares it is 42 watts a th  a 76 th unit.  pulls 3300 watts.

they have a m30s  to ship ing five days for 2430

https://pangolinminer.com/product/whatsminer-m30s-with-psu/

claims it can do 38 watts a th

pulls 3268 watts does 86th

if they really shipped it in five days.  you could get maybe 50 days pre ½ ing.

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March 24, 2020, 07:28:40 AM
Last edit: March 24, 2020, 10:36:40 AM by frodocooper
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The ones i mention are shipping same day Smiley and way cheaper than Pangolin.

M30s  1960 USD.

Directly from Whatsminer.

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March 24, 2020, 02:15:42 PM
Last edit: March 25, 2020, 09:20:48 AM by frodocooper
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Okay  I think this link is bullshit

hxxps://microbtmining.com/product/microbt-whatsminer-m30s/

they offer the m30s at only 1150 with 1 week delivery time.

don't buy from them.

https://whois.net/

look up has them at only  around since last year.

microbt.com is around since 2016

https://www.microbt.com/   they are the actual builder of the gear.

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March 24, 2020, 02:20:42 PM
Last edit: March 25, 2020, 09:21:05 AM by frodocooper
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Scammers. Microbt.com is the legit website.
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March 24, 2020, 03:39:00 PM
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Obvious scam at that pricing, though MB is shipping with in 7 days we're told.

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