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January 31, 2020, 11:52:35 AM Last edit: February 01, 2020, 10:03:42 AM by frodocooper |
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Might be misleading, but it would attract some people. However, if you do put it, I'd put asterisk and explain conditions required for such speed.
Put it in size 2 font way at the bottom in yellow font?
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Where's the miner source code for the firmware you are selling and distributing? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Where's the miner source code for the firmware you are selling and distributing? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Oh Kano you know how this answer goes haha. The source code for the panel can easily be found on github. The drivers are though not public since they took many months to make from scratch to figure out how to talk to the control board and chips. Sadly because of this I can't just opensource it. I was waiting for you to chime in on this haha ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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February 01, 2020, 07:09:09 PM Last edit: February 01, 2020, 07:22:11 PM by thierry4wd |
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i have tested this firmware ... is not good for me, overclock ok, but why ? at stock my T17 run at 43.5th by 1950-2000w ... if i overclock, down efficiency, and your devfee is to high ... more power, more heat, same revenue... lol Why is the software called CGMINER? What reason my mod for S9 firmware are detracting and not your ? i don't understand ... is shame, even the S9 is old machine, you lost very good finding on this machine ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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i have tested this firmware ... is not good for me, overclock ok, but why ? at stock my T17 run at 43.5th by 1950-2000w ... if i overclock, down efficiency, and your devfee is to high ... more power, more heat, same revenue... lol Why is the software called CGMINER? What reason my mod for S9 firmware are detracting and not your ? i don't understand ... is shame, even the S9 is old machine, you lost very good finding on this machine ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) What are you talking about. You just gave me like 6 different half complete sentences??? At stock your T17 runs at 44th/s okay. You can run it at 48-50 or even more. Or you can run it at 44w/th and run it at 300-600w LESS than stock. Overclocking causes heat yes we all know that. We also know it uses more power. Ours actually uses less power at the same stock setting and if you overclock tunes for the least amount of power. The dev fee is 2.8% it is small... What about cgminer? Didn't you release your own firmware you should know what cgminer is then lol. What does this have to do with you S9 firmware mod. That is an outdated machine that is about to be obsolete with the halving. We have an s9 firmware that gets it down to 75w/th on average and on good machines high 60s.
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February 02, 2020, 08:51:09 AM |
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hey not problem ! I don't attack you ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) we are in same camp ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Just i tell my opignon ... so, i thinks i have very good T17 ... On stock, is run at 720mhz at 16.8v ... give me arround 45W/th ... 2020-01-31 19:18:15 power_api.c:96:get_average_voltage: aveage voltage is: 16.797558 2020-01-31 19:18:15 frequency.c:582:get_current_min_freq: current min freq 720
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February 02, 2020, 09:22:39 AM |
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hey not problem ! I don't attack you ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) we are in same camp ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Just i tell my opignon ... so, i thinks i have very good T17 ... On stock, is run at 720mhz at 16.8v ... give me arround 45W/th ... 2020-01-31 19:18:15 power_api.c:96:get_average_voltage: aveage voltage is: 16.797558 2020-01-31 19:18:15 frequency.c:582:get_current_min_freq: current min freq 720 Stock they are 55w/th
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February 02, 2020, 11:40:35 AM |
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yes i know ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) but my, take only arround 1950 - 2000w ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) and i see other member here take arround same config, and have 45w/th
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February 03, 2020, 12:45:13 AM Last edit: February 03, 2020, 12:57:59 AM by kano |
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Where's the miner source code for the firmware you are selling and distributing? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Oh Kano you know how this answer goes haha. The source code for the panel can easily be found on github. The drivers are though not public since they took many months to make from scratch to figure out how to talk to the control board and chips. Sadly because of this I can't just opensource it. I was waiting for you to chime in on this haha ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) So all these people here have no issue with you ignoring the licenses and don't care about that. Typical of a lot of people around here. So you spent a SMALL amount of effort on this and think that allows you to ignore the licenses? The VERY LARGE amount of effort was the development of cgminer by many people with a VERY CLEAR license if you wish to use it. You CAN opensource it. Just as we did with cgminer - however we spent WAY MORE effort on it that you ever have. Edit: lucky I'm too busy coding, managing and running my pool, otherwise I'd go the small effort of working out and describing the very simple mod of your firmware to remove the ridiculous high 2.8% fee you charge also ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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February 03, 2020, 01:45:42 AM Last edit: February 04, 2020, 01:27:49 AM by frodocooper Merited by frodocooper (7) |
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Bitmain doesn't care nor any of the manufacturers sadly. Notice none of them provide the source code for their machines. Also, I should have said bmminer, not cgminer but they are so similar but one is made by Bitmain no? Also, we are not selling anything it is free. I would have loved for there to be a way to open the source but bitmain doesn't provide the source to their miner. Sadly bmminer was not made that way. A small amount of effort? That is quite rude. How does one measure effort? By hours put in? The number of developers? The number of nights stayed inside coding? The number of alcoholic beverages drank to ease the pain from sitting all day? The regrets from not going outside? The pain of damaging machines? I am just rambling now. Also, I see I am the only one that humors you on this I knew where you were taking this but I figure I entertain you since everyone ignores you on this which is quite frankly rude. Also yes source code can be found online. You can thank asicseer for starting the trend on modifying bmminer without a license and all the manufacturers followed. Granted how do you opensource a patched file? No, I can't opensource it. I do not have the full source nor will bitmain give it. I emailed them already and asked. Also, there is a list of protections and if tampered with the miner will lock itself down, loaded on the linux distro. Pirating is the reason there are multiple things in place to prevent that. I can go into more detail but I rather not give away everything. But I will state reverse engineering it will cause it to shut down or operate in a way you do not want it too. Probably don't want to give someone advice that will give them adverse effects. Seriously though I can give you the head dev's info if you want to ask them but I don't think it's possible since bitmain didn't provide the source. yes i know ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) but my, take only arround 1950 - 2000w ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) and i see other member here take arround same config, and have 45w/th Yeah bitmain purposely made them use more power.
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... Notice none of them provide the source code for their machines.
Incorrect. You can get source for some miners - even the only mining company that's got a corporate listing to trade shares in the company - Canaan. Also, I should have said bmminer, not cgminer but they are so similar but one is made by Bitmain no?
bmminer is cgminer, they just modified cgminer plus made it say bmminer everywhere. Also, we are not selling anything it is free.
Scammer. Also, there is a list of protections and if tampered with the miner will lock itself down, loaded on the linux distro. Pirating is the reason there are multiple things in place to prevent that. I can go into more detail but I rather not give away everything. But I will state reverse engineering it will cause it to shut down or operate in a way you do not want it too. Probably don't want to give someone advice that will give them adverse effects.
So you put code in the firmware to brick the miner - you best better make sure it NEVER actually activates except when it should right? This is clearly a reason why no one in their right mind should use your firmware since it may brick their new S17 miner. P.S. Noob, I know more about code, operating systems and development that you'll ever know. No, it's no big deal to remove your 2.8% fee ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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February 03, 2020, 08:16:12 AM Merited by frodocooper (5) |
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Firmware is not bad at all. My T17s draws 2150w on stock settings (40THs) with Bitmain fw, with custom fw on 45 ths, power draw is 2000w. Chip temps are 10c lower. Only objection is auto fan settings. For example chip temps are 50c and fan speed on antminer is 6000 rpm, this can be reduced a lot, also power draw will be reduced more. I hope this will be fixed with next release. Also I noticed power draw peak before miner start hashing.It goes 10-15% up, this also should be fixed. Everything else is very good. Very good software.
Bitmain firmware is crap, they release their sowtware with no testing. I installed last Bitmain S15/T15 firmware (released on beginning of January 2020) after that 3 hashing boards on my T15 antminers are dead, and one powersupply is dead, boards constantly goes off on all miners. Bitmain of course told that is my mistake. But after I flashed previouse firmware all starts to work fine.
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February 03, 2020, 11:28:47 AM Last edit: February 04, 2020, 01:30:14 AM by frodocooper Merited by frodocooper (3) |
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Yes and bmminer can be patched to enable disabled features. You said you can get source for some of the miners all new machines do not have source so it's not like you can actually recompile them for source instead of patching the binary. Canaan went open source on their latest miner three weeks ago. Where did I say there is code to brick the miner? You are putting words in my mouth and are trying to scare people. Also yes removing the fee is not hard but the miner will not function as intended. The easiest way to remove the fee is to flash back to stock. Did you just call me a noob lol. When did I say I know more about code, operating systems, and development. Take a look at the firmware for sale in digital goods for the S17+ that you have to buy same goes for the chipless mod. Those are people enabling features disabled at the factory too but charge $100-250 a machine to turn on.
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February 03, 2020, 05:35:35 PM Merited by frodocooper (5) |
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Also I noticed power draw peak before miner start hashing.It goes 10-15% up, this also should be fixed. Everything else is very good. Very good software.
Someone correct me if I am wrong. But that should be normal, and all electronics spike when they are started up, just check your computer for example. Also, in Kernel Log, you can find a timestamp for that spike, I think it is exactly when all hashboards are being tested by control board or are powered up. They usually start at 21v (S17+) or 20v (S17e) and then go back down. For example (S17+): 2020-02-03 10:11:15 power_api.c:209:power_init: current_voltage_raw = 0 2020-02-03 10:11:15 power_api.c:210:power_init: highest_voltage_raw = 2100 2020-02-03 10:11:15 power_api.c:211:power_init: working_voltage_raw = 1950 2020-02-03 10:11:15 power_api.c:212:power_init: higher_voltage_raw = 2040 2020-02-03 10:11:15 driver-btm-api.c:1792:bitmain_board_init: Enter 30s sleep to make sure power release finish. 2020-02-03 10:11:47 power_api.c:262:set_to_highest_voltage: Set to voltage raw 2100, one step. 2020-02-03 10:11:49 power_api.c:83:check_voltage_multi: retry time: 0 2020-02-03 10:11:50 power_api.c:38:_get_avg_voltage: chain = 0, voltage = 21.038313 2020-02-03 10:11:51 power_api.c:38:_get_avg_voltage: chain = 1, voltage = 21.067861 2020-02-03 10:11:52 power_api.c:38:_get_avg_voltage: chain = 2, voltage = 21.073170 2020-02-03 10:11:52 power_api.c:51:_get_avg_voltage: average_voltage = 21.059781 2020-02-03 10:11:52 power_api.c:69:check_voltage: target_vol = 21.00, actural_vol = 21.06, check voltage passed. And this is their working voltage (S17+): 2020-02-03 10:13:13 power_api.c:38:_get_avg_voltage: chain = 0, voltage = 19.388249 2020-02-03 10:13:14 power_api.c:38:_get_avg_voltage: chain = 1, voltage = 19.388747 2020-02-03 10:13:15 power_api.c:38:_get_avg_voltage: chain = 2, voltage = 19.414633 2020-02-03 10:13:15 power_api.c:51:_get_avg_voltage: average_voltage = 19.397210 2020-02-03 10:13:15 power_api.c:69:check_voltage: target_vol = 19.40, actural_vol = 19.40, check voltage passed.
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February 03, 2020, 05:38:47 PM Last edit: February 04, 2020, 01:31:48 AM by frodocooper |
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Yes that is normal. The firmware is not compatible with the + or E model right now so we have it so it will not start mining to not damage the machine the E and + firmware will come out soon. You flashed the S17 non e or + firmware to the machine and it is not compatible. We will have a beta firmware up in a few days for the + and e models. That error was made on purpose to prevent the machine from mining and causing damage with incompatible firmware. https://asic.to/files/Firmware/Stock/SD-S17e.ziphttps://asic.to/files/Firmware/Stock/SD_S17+.rar^Download the proper one and flash via sd card and then flash the current bitmain firmware to return to stock until it is ready ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Edit I read that wrong but yes these require their stock voltage and then step down to work.
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February 03, 2020, 07:52:33 PM Last edit: February 04, 2020, 01:32:05 AM by frodocooper |
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... Edit I read that wrong but yes these require their stock voltage and then step down to work.
Yep, I was just explaining, my units are running original firmware. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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February 03, 2020, 08:30:51 PM Last edit: February 04, 2020, 01:32:29 AM by frodocooper |
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Notice in the discord a lot of people are complaining about the new units having issues.
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February 03, 2020, 10:29:47 PM Last edit: February 04, 2020, 01:32:43 AM by frodocooper |
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Well, I haven't had any problems so far on those two machines. However, my S17 Pro is still pain in the arse...
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Well, I haven't had any problems so far on those two machines. However, my S17 Pro is still pain in the arse...
Your S17 is just a little bit special ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Also, 1.0 should come out in a week out of beta!
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