The reality of Merit

[Henri Cartier]

By the way, the higher rank members have started their journey as a Newbie. How did they get the merits when they were Newbies? Do you think they got the merits just like that?

They have put a lot of efforts in earning that merits. Open the profile of any legendary member and look at their posts. You will get an idea about how they got merits.

Put some efforts and post some useful contents, you will definitely get merits. Don't expect for a merit, just be active and contribute good posts to the forum.

[alani123]

I do believe that there is a tendency to dismiss posts of new users, but if a post is of excellent quality then there are a few incentives to provide it more attention. Theymos has made it so merit sources should suggest under-appreciated posts to even apply. And merit sources also hold in their hands the weight of allowing users to rank up by distributing merit.

I'm sure that sooner or later they'll have to be more liberal in spreading their merit to new users also, if that hasn't been done already. Accumulation isn't encouraged anyway, but that maybe could be enforced more strictly.

[DdmrDdmr]

<…> I'm sure that sooner or later they'll have to be more liberal in spreading their merit to new users also, if that hasn't been done already. <…>

I think Merit Sources are pretty welcoming to meriting Newbies (or any other rank) providing their posts are well versed, and the content is decent enough; even applying a watered-down personal criteria for posts belonging to the lower ranks. It’s normally going to help having some posts under the belt, since posting history may be checked, especially when meriting a person for the first time. I personally took nearly 2 months to receive my first merit, so it does not necessarily need to be a fast action.

There is an interesting thread that keeps track of those that have supported Newbies specifically since September 2018, by awarding them their first merits: [TOP-200] Members who support newbies - Thanks!.

[RapTarX]

How did I get them if your words are true?
I was a newbie as well earlier this year. I have earned 341 merits within less than a year. It's not that much difficult if you use the forum as usual; not for the purpose of earning merit. No matter if you are newbie or an old buddy; if you are posting some useful information, constructive & high quality, you will get merit certainly without  any doubt.

[hd49728]

I was a newbie as well earlier this year. I have earned 341 merits within less than a year. It's not that much difficult if you use the forum as usual; not for the purpose of earning merit. No matter if you are newbie or an old buddy; if you are posting some useful information, constructive & high quality, you will get merit certainly without  any doubt.

It is definitely difficult at beginnings. Everyone do feel it challenging at their beginnings, but if they manage to go through the very first challenging phase, they will do become more familiar with merit system, and know which kind of posts can help them to earn merits. Then, they will feel very more comfortable with merit system and challenges to rank up.

Unfortunately, from the mid-ranks (Senior member and above) the challenges are significant bigger and such huge challenges can drain out their desire to rank up. This stage, ones who can maintain their habits will do successfully rank up.

[UserU]

It is definitely difficult at beginnings. Everyone do feel it challenging at their beginnings, but if they manage to go through the very first challenging phase, they will do become more familiar with merit system, and know which kind of posts can help them to earn merits. Then, they will feel very more comfortable with merit system and challenges to rank up.

Unfortunately, from the mid-ranks (Senior member and above) the challenges are significant bigger and such huge challenges can drain out their desire to rank up. This stage, ones who can maintain their habits will do successfully rank up.

Can relate to that. During the early stages, we see the signature campaigns and then force ourselves to fish for merits because it's like free money. Other than that, the appeal isn't really there.

[Maus0728]

How did I get them if your words are true?
I was a newbie as well earlier this year. I have earned 341 merits within less than a year. It's not that much difficult if you use the forum as usual; not for the purpose of earning merit. No matter if you are newbie or an old buddy; if you are posting some useful information, constructive & high quality, you will get merit certainly without  any doubt.

Nothing beats the reality of having a good grasp of knowledge on how the forum and cryptocurrency works. People are getting merits within a year because they invested their time to learn various things that are related to Bitcoin thus it leads them to the comfortability in thriving into the community without having to worry about making an unsubstantial post just to increase their post count and get paid. High-quality post comes naturally when a person is educated to a specific topic.

Be a seeker of knowledge and become a person who is a life-long learner. Then merit will follow.

[o_e_l_e_o]

I think Merit Sources are pretty welcoming to meriting Newbies (or any other rank) providing their posts are well versed

Yeah, I go out of my way to hunt down newbies who are deserving of merit, and even have a customized patrol page bookmarked which I visit regularly to help me to do this. I have much lower expectations for meriting newbies than I do for meriting higher ranks. Basically if it seems clear the user is here for the right reasons - to learn, discuss, and contribute, and isn't spamming low value nonsense, simply repeating things which have already been said, or just trying to earn signature privileges to join a campaign - then I'm more than happy to send a merit or two their way. Unfortunately, the fact of the matter is that there are an awful lot of newbies who are one line spammers, just like OP.

As I always say in threads like this one, if you are coming across good posts which are going unmerited, simply post a link to them in this thread: [self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source. There are multiple merit sources who have that thread on their watchlist and would be more than happy to send merit to deserving posts.

Be a seeker of knowledge and become a person who is a life-long learner. Then merit will follow.

This is my advice whenever I see someone complaining about merit, or all the guides about "how to earn merit". If you need to follow a guide to earn merit, you are doing it wrong. If you want to earn merit, then forget merit exists. Read. Learn. Contribute. Post in topics which interest you because you have some new information to add or something interesting to say. Stop posting for the sake of post count, or a quota, or fishing for merit. Be a genuine user and merit will find you.

[Krislaw]

One thing I noticed about this forum is that you get recognized well if your first posts are of great contribution on this forum. Try not to make most of your post base on bounties but try to rank up on time. You had a long break after your registration which isn't supposed to be like that.

[desticy]

Nonsense. To admit after the introduction of the Merita system, I was sure that the situation would be similar to that described by you, but in fact this did not happen.
Especially now when there is an outflow of users from the forum and a significantly reduced inflow compared to last year.

Mostly newcomers remain on the forum, which is why most of the high ranks gladly reward them with merit.
Do not judge biased, it is better to look at the newcomers who have received Merit, there are many of them.

[bitmover]

Have you made a good posts which received no merit?
That's normal. Make a good posts again. Merits will come to you if you are a good poster, if you read before writing, etc.

[nakamura12]

Newbie constructive post = 0 Merit, neglected.

Higher Rank constructive post = Merit, Merit and Merit......

Everyone puts oil on the oily head.

I used to think same as you that higher ranks are always the first one to receive merit or in favor of earning merit but I was wrong about it. Earning merit is not based on rank but your effort in making constructive post which is the requirement to receive merit from anyone who has available smerit.

[Oasisman]

OP if you're doubtful whether your post deserves merit, then find a thread that offers merits to those deserving posts to be merited but left unnoticed. Some of the merit sources are giving out merits. I know this is your alt account, and out of frustrations you posted such biased post because your main account had a hard time earning merits.
Here, help yourself up :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5096125.0

Posting this kind of statement doesn't help you get merit either.

[LoyceMobile]

I've merited hundreds of Newbies and I'm not very picky, but OP isn't getting any for this post.

[agentx44]

Newbie constructive post = 0 Merit, neglected.

Higher Rank constructive post = Merit, Merit and Merit......

Everyone puts oil on the oily head.

That's the painful truth these days here in the crypto market. No matter how constructed and well-constructed your post is, you will still recieve none of the merits just because you are in a low rank or just a newbie. Actually, there are still some parts in the forum where you can gain merit but not that much and your rank would still matter. It is very unfortunate for the newbies who experienced the crypto with merit, we had our time, activities would dictate your rank but now we have to suffer the same consequences the newbies and low ranks are having.

[noormcs5]

Newbie constructive post = 0 Merit, neglected.

Higher Rank constructive post = Merit, Merit and Merit......

Everyone puts oil on the oily head.

This is not the reality, even though there is a big difference in the quality of the post of a newbie or a higher rank member and therefore the higher rank deserve more merits on the basis of his quality work. As far as merit for the newbies are concerned, almost every giveaway the most merits are for the newbies and Jr members. The only hard to rank up is from full member to Sr. Member and then from Sr. Member to Legendary only on the basis that you require almost 100 merits to rank up after you attain the member rank.

[rosezionjohn]

When the merit system was introduced, there was also a time where I thought merits are only distributed to few members but I learned that it's not the case. I don't know if it's self-entitlement or just impatience that's why many newbies complain a lot. Don't make few posts and expect merits to rain. I think some merit sources here also checks post history and see if you are contributing well to the forum. If they see that you are actively engaged in quality discussions, you will most likely get some merits.

[The-Devil]

Merit is given for posting well. Merit is an inspiration. If someone gets merit, he'll try to post something better in the future. We know that there is something to be gained by giving something. So if you give something to the forum you will definitely get merit. You can gift some good posts to this forum. You can help members of this forum with information. Then you will get merit.

[gentlemand]

OP clearly doesn't have a strong comprehension of English and its posts are mainly pointless questions or confirmations. I was expecting to have my wig blown off rather than the usual Google Translate bot stuff. Come back when you've got some juice to squirt in our faces

[darkangel11]

I've merited hundreds of Newbies and I'm not very picky, but OP isn't getting any for this post.

People don't like to read complaints.

OP, try to make others laugh, post something interesting that others did not know about, start a thread, usually opening posts get merited as long as they aren't copying old threads and asking the same questions that have been asked 10 times already.

I agree that people often merit people they know and like and people they've been merited by. This is normal human behaviour, you can't expect everything to be fair. Don't give up though!