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December 17, 2019, 03:15:29 PM
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Hello Guys,
Today i'm putting my knowledge in this post, I Hope it will be useful for some peoples, Scamming has become so popular nowadays, I think we have to make every effort to avoid it.
This is a small effort from me,

  • #1: visit The Website and check is this secure with https (SSL CERTIFICATE) If the address starts with “http” instead of “https” The data you send to the website is not secure, and you will lose your secret information.


  • #2: Does the website’s URL have any spelling mistake or any error?
    for example:
    www.anywebsite.com- Real
    www.anywebslte.com-Fake
    If so, it could be a fake, attacker will steal your login details, And he will use all these details on the real website,

  • #3: Does the website (or company) promise extraordinarily high profits? For example, they can offer that you can double your investment in a week or month. This is a common indication of a scam.

  • #4: If you are dreaming of getting rich quickly from a crypto ICO then You will be victim of scam sooner or later, please be aware that every ICO can't be successful, Even if the project is not a scam.

  • #5: Malware has long been a weapon in the arsenal of online scammers, For Example: "Masad Stealer" is using the Telegram app to steal crypto-currency by accessing browser passwords and clipboard information, The attackers access wallets containing Monero, Ether, bitcoin and other forms of crypto-currency

  • #6: Be careful of low marketcap cryptos that normally have a low trading volume but that suddenly experience a sharp price rise, Use your common-sense Why peoples not buying?
    I advice you to buy only High marketcap coins/tokens.

  • #7: always use 2-factor authentication
    If you’re using a crypto wallet or exchange that supports two-factor authentication, enable this feature before depositing any funds, It’s So easy and simple to set up and provides an extra layer of account security, Even if Scammers has your email and password, your funds will remain safe

  • #8:Try to Use a cold wallet
    A “hot” wallet is one that’s connected to the Internet, and a “cold” wallet is one that’s held offline, Storing your crypto offline in a physical cold wallet is usually considered to be a much safer option than using an online wallet, You can use "Trezor"
    Note: Please Avoid new and untested platforms


  • #9: Never share your private keys with anyone,

  • #10: Always avoid crypto-currency mining scams Thoroughly research any cloud mining operation before signing up, Does it use https?
    How old are they been in that business? is that Company registered?
    Please Be extremely wary of companies that “Guarantee” profit.




    I Request you guys before you purchase a coin, gather as much information as possible to ensure you are making the right decision, and investing your money in right project.



    Untill Next time GOOD BYE
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December 18, 2019, 05:48:34 AM
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FYI, for point one about SSL, SSL not guarantee if that website not a scam or phishing anymore. Lot of phishing and scam project using SSL to tricked user. This thread can be a good read for you Half of all Phishing Sites Now Have the Padlock Sign - by Pmalek. Another thread that full list to avoid scam by tbct_mt2 can be a good source for all of member: Collection of comprehensive guides on identify and avoid scam projects

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FYI, for point one about SSL, SSL not guarantee if that website not a scam or phishing anymore. Lot of phishing and scam project using SSL to tricked user. This thread can be a good read for you Half of all Phishing Sites Now Have the Padlock Sign - by Pmalek. Another thread that full list to avoid scam by tbct_mt2 can be a good source for all of member: Collection of comprehensive guides on identify and avoid scam projects

You do not understand what I mean!
I mean that if you register on a http website your data will not be safe, it may be stolen
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December 18, 2019, 09:50:23 AM
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#2: Does the website’s URL have any spelling mistake or any error?
This point is easy miss and also skip the eye, for websites that you haven't used before or maybe are not in your list of bookmarked sites, it's good to check for spelling or graphic design errors, if there is any, then it's a scam website.
#3: Does the website (or company) promise extraordinarily high profits?
Or do they give fake giveaways, asking users to send bitcoins to receive more in return, scammers for sometime now are concentrating on starting fake giveaways, though some of this is easy to spot.

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December 18, 2019, 04:54:51 PM
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#3: Does the website (or company) promise extraordinarily high profits? For example, they can offer that you can double your investment in a week or month. This is a common indication of a scam.

When you see this kind of offer, there is no doubt that it is a classic fraud, it is only a matter of how it is presented and how much effort and time someone put into the whole thing. Forget it, or better report it if you are sure that it is a scam.

#5: Malware has long been a weapon in the arsenal of online scammers, For Example: "Masad Stealer" is using the Telegram app to steal crypto-currency by accessing browser passwords and clipboard information, The attackers access wallets containing Monero, Ether, bitcoin and other forms of crypto-currency

Always pay maximum attention to what you click, but also use the help of security software, this is something that can save you even if you make a mistake. Your smartphone is vulnerable, just like your desktop computer, security is not something to be neglected, on the contrary, we should be at least one or two steps ahead of the hacker if possible.

#8:Try to Use a cold wallet
A “hot” wallet is one that’s connected to the Internet, and a “cold” wallet is one that’s held offline, Storing your crypto offline in a physical cold wallet is usually considered to be a much safer option than using an online wallet, You can use "Trezor"
Note: Please Avoid new and untested platforms.

You put Trezor under quotation marks, so I guess you know this is not a real cold wallet, you still need to connect it to the internet as most people do. Then you can become a victim of fake Trezor sites which will ask you to enter seed words there. Very naive, but sometimes a very effective and inexpensive way of scam.

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    #3: Does the website (or company) promise extraordinarily high profits? For example, they can offer that you can double your investment in a week or month. This is a common indication of a scam.


    When you see this kind of offer, there is no doubt that it is a classic fraud, it is only a matter of how it is presented and how much effort and time someone put into the whole thing. Forget it, or better report it if you are sure that it is a scam.

    #5: Malware has long been a weapon in the arsenal of online scammers, For Example: "Masad Stealer" is using the Telegram app to steal crypto-currency by accessing browser passwords and clipboard information, The attackers access wallets containing Monero, Ether, bitcoin and other forms of crypto-currency

    Always pay maximum attention to what you click, but also use the help of security software, this is something that can save you even if you make a mistake. Your smartphone is vulnerable, just like your desktop computer, security is not something to be neglected, on the contrary, we should be at least one or two steps ahead of the hacker if possible.

    #8:Try to Use a cold wallet
    A “hot” wallet is one that’s connected to the Internet, and a “cold” wallet is one that’s held offline, Storing your crypto offline in a physical cold wallet is usually considered to be a much safer option than using an online wallet, You can use "Trezor"
    Note: Please Avoid new and untested platforms.

    You put Trezor under quotation marks, so I guess you know this is not a real cold wallet, you still need to connect it to the internet as most people do. Then you can become a victim of fake Trezor sites which will ask you to enter seed words there. Very naive, but sometimes a very effective and inexpensive way of scam.[/list]


    I'm glad to see your comment, please guide me if I'm wrong. I mentioned my own experience in this post
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    December 18, 2019, 05:32:46 PM
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    AirdropNotifyer, you can read more about cold wallets in Bitcoin Wiki - Cold storage. One very popular method used by many for this purpose is Electrum-Cold Storage, and if the instructions are followed it really isn't complicated to complete the whole process. Of course, cold storage is primarily intended for those who have significant amounts of coins, because it is the safest way, although anyone can use it if they have high-security standards.

    Just one thing I would advise you is regarding the use of quote option. There is no need to quote the whole post, and then just add one line, it doesn't look pretty, and in most cases, it doesn't make any sense. Learn how to remove part of quoted post, or how to edit post Wink

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    December 18, 2019, 08:33:13 PM
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    1. Visit the site
    2. Check the people if they exist on LinkedIn and if they look like genuine accounts (you can fake those too)
    3. Cross-reference anything, names, companies, careers, achievements
    4. Look on here and on Reddit for additional information
    5. Looks at what they say. Does anything sound too good to be true? Probably is
    6. Don't invest everything you've got at once
    7. Use hardware wallets when you can
    8. Never click/open emails from people you don't know
    9. Don't fall for crypto giveaways

    Some additional help for beginners! Smiley
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    December 18, 2019, 09:48:52 PM
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    You should also be adblocking the shit out of everything. That'll stop the adwords results that attempt to con you. It will also often save you from being put through to compromised sites if your actual browser doesn't. I'm amazed there's anyone out there who doesn't do it.

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    December 18, 2019, 10:46:46 PM
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    #2: Does the website’s URL have any spelling mistake or any error?
    for example:
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    www.anywebslte.com-Fake
    Your example doesn't have different.


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    December 19, 2019, 04:36:57 AM
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    I mean that if you register on a http website your data will not be safe, it may be stolen

    Okay, sorry if I was wrong or didn't understand what you mean.

    What different, I register on
    Code:
    https://abcde.com (as real websites)
    with register on
    Code:
    https://abced.com (as a clone or fake websites)

    Do you think register on second websites with HTTPS (SSL) not stolen your data? This happen many times, user become a victim becausethey are login/register on typos (fake, as your example) with HTTPS sign on websites. That's what I mean, https not guarantee you are safe from phishing that can get your data very easy.

    Your example doesn't have different.

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    For point #1, can this be avoided by forcing HTTPS (thru plugin) assuming the site's legit?

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    For point #1, can this be avoided by forcing HTTPS (thru plugin) assuming the site's legit?

    Don't even bother looking at the SSL certificate as this is not really a good way to point out if the website is a scam or not because some scams now already have this certification which for newbies makes them more trustful. I still recommend for you to follow what the OP is telling since it is on point and you really need to see the website entirely and what they are offering to know if they are offering is a scam or not. Other than that you should look for what other people are saying to it online, if they don't have any feedback for their website then that's a good indicator to back off as well.

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    December 19, 2019, 09:13:36 AM
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    Besides, anyone with an ambiguous status who tries to contact and be close to you. In the long run, you might consider him a good, safe person. And I've encountered many cases of fraud over the years, taking advantage of our relaxation and kindness.
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    December 19, 2019, 09:55:19 AM
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    Don't even bother looking at the SSL certificate as this is not really a good way to point out if the website is a scam or not because some scams now already have this certification which for newbies makes them more trustful. I still recommend for you to follow what the OP is telling since it is on point and you really need to see the website entirely and what they are offering to know if they are offering is a scam or not. Other than that you should look for what other people are saying to it online, if they don't have any feedback for their website then that's a good indicator to back off as well.

    I get it, not those shady ones but a truly legit faucet site for instance, Coinpot. It previously didn't use HTTPS until recently so I wondered whether the data would still be secured if I were to force the usage of HTTPS.

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    December 19, 2019, 06:35:32 PM
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    Let me explain to you what this means.
    HTTP ( Hypertext Transfer Protocol )


    HTTPS ( Hypertext Transfer Protocol Secure )



    Http has nothing to do with scam i know that, And that doesn't mean that every HTTPS website is safe,
    I want to tell Newbies that the HTTP website is not safe for registration, i hope i have clarified that.

    Thank you all Wink
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    December 19, 2019, 07:11:09 PM
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    ~snip~

    I get it, not those shady ones but a truly legit faucet site for instance, Coinpot. It previously didn't use HTTPS until recently so I wondered whether the data would still be secured if I were to force the usage of HTTPS.


    The point of the OP is about scams so like what I have said and others are saying no matter if the website has SSL and can cover up your data as long as the website is a scam they still end up getting your money if you are fooled with these SSL certifications. You might be protecting your password and other data with HTTPS but it doesn't stop the scam itself from happening. Bottom line is if the website has SSL and you think they are scam you still really don't want to trust them even on that occasion.

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    December 20, 2019, 04:16:31 AM
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    I mean that if you register on a http website your data will not be safe, it may be stolen
    https websites are not safe, though.

    You can increase your security when visiting and registering on websites by using VPN (with Tunnel Bear, example), Tor Browser, and throw-away emails (if you register on strange sites); and don't save your identities online, keep them offline instead.

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    1. Visit the site
    2. Check the people if they exist on LinkedIn and if they look like genuine accounts (you can fake those too)
    3. Cross-reference anything, names, companies, careers, achievements
    4. Look on here and on Reddit for additional information

    5. Looks at what they say. Does anything sound too good to be true? Probably is
    6. Don't invest everything you've got at once
    7. Use hardware wallets when you can
    8. Never click/open emails from people you don't know
    9. Don't fall for crypto giveaways

    Some additional help for beginners! Smiley

    now that's interesting  Wink (more difficult for brand new/masquerading for other companies in other spheres tho, which adds irrelevant info up in research, tbh)
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    Wow!! very useful post yet. I was always scared about fishing site that my account may hack anytime. But with your article i am fully satisfied to learn about fishing site tracking.

    Thanks.

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