Last Call: Titan Mint Gold Coins 2014 and 2016

[CoinCube]

Hello I am the proud owner of twenty five 2014 Titan Mint gold coins (Warrior Version)



and twenty five 2016 Titan Mint gold coins (Lady Justice Version). Each coin is 1 troy ounce 99.9% pure gold. The coins are not currently loaded with bitcoin and the hologram on the back of the coins has been removed.





Tim the owner of Titan Mint and the creator of these coins has been kind enough to offer escrow services for this resale. He will confirm the coins authenticity and handle both the receipt of funds from those interested in purchasing them as well as mailing of the coins to the buyers. I am funding his escrow costs.  

These gold coins can be purchased in two ways.

1) Gold coins only without bitcoin. These are for sale for $100 over spot gold price currently $1575 per coin plus shipping. These coins will not have a hologram on the back and they will not be loaded with bitcoin.

2) Restored coins. Tim the president of Titan Mint is willing to restore these coins and reload them with a new hologram and load a bitcoin onto them. Price for the restored coins will be $100 over spot gold + the BTC price currently $8173 per coin plus shipping. These restored coins will be loaded only with bitcoin and will not have any of the multiple fork coins BSV, BCH, ect that have branched off over the years.

Very few of these coins in gold were created. I am selling them now because I need to raise a fair amount of money for a business venture and this is the asset I own that is the most logical to liquidate. Any coins that are not sold by January 19th will be melted down to extract their gold melt value further increasing the rarity of any sold coins.

If you are interested in purchasing please inform Tim Fillmore the president of Titan Mint here:

tim@titanbtc.com.

Alternatively you can send him a PM his user name is TitanBTC
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=112605

Edit: The reload option was unpopular and is no longer being offered.

Edit #2: New orders are still being processed. Price remains spot gold at the time of payment + 100$ + shipping.

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[teeGUMES]

2) Restored coins. Tim the president of Titan Mint is willing to restore these coins and reload them with a new hologram and load a bitcoin onto them. Price for the restored coins will be $100 over spot gold + the BTC price currently $8173 per coin plus shipping. These restored coins will be loaded only with bitcoin and will not have any of the multiple fork coins BSV, BCH, ect that have branched off over the years.

I don't think coin makers should do this.

[anonymousminer]

2) Restored coins. Tim the president of Titan Mint is willing to restore these coins and reload them with a new hologram and load a bitcoin onto them. Price for the restored coins will be $100 over spot gold + the BTC price currently $8173 per coin plus shipping. These restored coins will be loaded only with bitcoin and will not have any of the multiple fork coins BSV, BCH, ect that have branched off over the years.

I don't think coin makers should do this.

I agree 100%!!  This would completely devalue Titan IMO.  I would have ZERO interest in ALL Titan products if Tim actually does this!!  People need to use their f**king brain!!

[CoinCube]

2) Restored coins. Tim the president of Titan Mint is willing to restore these coins and reload them with a new hologram and load a bitcoin onto them. Price for the restored coins will be $100 over spot gold + the BTC price currently $8173 per coin plus shipping. These restored coins will be loaded only with bitcoin and will not have any of the multiple fork coins BSV, BCH, ect that have branched off over the years.

I don't think coin makers should do this.

The coins will be clearly loaded with bitcoin in 2020 not 2014. That may effect resale value compared to ones that have not been reloaded. They are beautiful coins. I think its better they get recirculated back into the community rather then melted down.

I anticipate most of these will get melted down due to a lack of demand in a general bear market for BTC which is ok as I just need to extract the gold value. However, I wanted to give the community a chance at them first if there is interest.

My profit is basically the same if these sell through escrow or just get melted them down for spot gold. However, I think its worthwhile to preserve a rare historic bitcoin collectable for the future however as there are very few of these coins out there and I would rather they find their way into the hands of collectors instead of being melted.

[krogothmanhattan]

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I think its worthwhile to preserve a rare collectable for the future however as there are very few of these coins out there and I would rather then find there way into the hands of collectors then melted.

Collector here...pm sent

[teeGUMES]

2) Restored coins. Tim the president of Titan Mint is willing to restore these coins and reload them with a new hologram and load a bitcoin onto them. Price for the restored coins will be $100 over spot gold + the BTC price currently $8173 per coin plus shipping. These restored coins will be loaded only with bitcoin and will not have any of the multiple fork coins BSV, BCH, ect that have branched off over the years.

I don't think coin makers should do this.

The coins will be clearly loaded with bitcoin in 2020 not 2014. That may effect resale value compared to ones that have not been reloaded. They are beautiful coins. I think its better they get recirculated back into the community rather then melted down.

I anticipate most of these will get melted down due to a lack of demand in a general bear market for BTC which is ok as I just need to extract the gold value. However, I wanted to give the community a chance at them first if there is interest.

You don't need to argue the merit of whether this is proper or not. Just think, somewhere out there someone that works in a scam coin shop in China is watching the interaction here.. they make some of their gold plated/titan fakes and load them up with 2020 bitcoin. There are already many TitanBTC fakes out there, this would totally end the resale market for any of their coins.

Sorry for disrupting your sale, I will continue this in the TitanBTC thread. I think you should go with option 1 and leave it at that. Many people like to pick up gold at spot/just over around here.

[TitanBTC]

I understand your concern.  To clarify, anyone purchasing the reloads of these coins are not getting "new mintage".  We are not increasing the number of coins in existence for these. 

The reloads will retain the existing production number but are getting a new public/private key pair and a new certificate of authenticity. The reloads will show authenticity on the Titan website, just the same as the original. 

These represent a significant percentage of the mintage for these two coins, which is why I am open to uniquely accommodating this sale.  The holograms' authenticity and their intact status is the primary security for these coins (I have yet to see a hologram replica of our coins).  These holograms will show the first digits of their public key, and still link to a page verifying they are authentic and linking to the blockchain transaction that funded them.   

Because of the added security that comes with the extra layer of authenticity verification, I don't think this is actually leverage for fresh scammers to gain any advantage but I may not be fully understanding your perspective.

2) Restored coins. Tim the president of Titan Mint is willing to restore these coins and reload them with a new hologram and load a bitcoin onto them. Price for the restored coins will be $100 over spot gold + the BTC price currently $8173 per coin plus shipping. These restored coins will be loaded only with bitcoin and will not have any of the multiple fork coins BSV, BCH, ect that have branched off over the years.

I don't think coin makers should do this.

The coins will be clearly loaded with bitcoin in 2020 not 2014. That may effect resale value compared to ones that have not been reloaded. They are beautiful coins. I think its better they get recirculated back into the community rather then melted down.

I anticipate most of these will get melted down due to a lack of demand in a general bear market for BTC which is ok as I just need to extract the gold value. However, I wanted to give the community a chance at them first if there is interest.

You don't need to argue the merit of whether this is proper or not. Just think, somewhere out there someone that works in a scam coin shop in China is watching the interaction here.. they make some of their gold plated/titan fakes and load them up with 2020 bitcoin. There are already many TitanBTC fakes out there, this would totally end the resale market for any of their coins.

Sorry for disrupting your sale, I will continue this in the TitanBTC thread. I think you should go with option 1 and leave it at that. Many people like to pick up gold at spot/just over around here.

[Spokanistan51]

It would also be nice if Tim/Titan would update their website for the coins they have distributed. This is a cause of a good deal of frustration attempting to confirm a loaded value of a Titan coin, and date, then getting an error stating not found.

[TitanBTC]

PM sent.  I'm open to hearing your opinion.  I just pasted some details on the process I'm considering above, as well, if that clarifies any of concerns.

2) Restored coins. Tim the president of Titan Mint is willing to restore these coins and reload them with a new hologram and load a bitcoin onto them. Price for the restored coins will be $100 over spot gold + the BTC price currently $8173 per coin plus shipping. These restored coins will be loaded only with bitcoin and will not have any of the multiple fork coins BSV, BCH, ect that have branched off over the years.

I don't think coin makers should do this.

I agree 100%!!  This would completely devalue Titan IMO.  I would have ZERO interest in ALL Titan products if Tim actually does this!!  People need to use their f**king brain!!

[TitanBTC]

It would also be nice if Tim/Titan would update their website for the coins they have distributed. This is a cause of a good deal of frustration attempting to confirm a loaded value of a Titan coin, and date, then getting an error stating not found.

Please PM me here with the coin ID that you're having trouble with?

[anonymousminer]

I understand your concern.  To clarify, anyone purchasing the reloads of these coins are not getting "new mintage".  We are not increasing the number of coins in existence for these.  

The reloads will retain the existing production number but are getting a new public/private key pair and a new certificate of authenticity. The reloads will show authenticity on the Titan website, just the same as the original.  

These represent a significant percentage of the mintage for these two coins, which is why I am open to uniquely accommodating this sale.  The holograms' authenticity and their intact status is the primary security for these coins (I have yet to see a hologram replica of our coins).  These holograms will show the first digits of their public key, and still link to a page verifying they are authentic and linking to the blockchain transaction that funded them.  

Because of the added security that comes with the extra layer of authenticity verification, I don't think this is actually leverage for fresh scammers to gain any advantage but I may not be fully understanding your perspective.

If they are not laser etched with RE-FUNDED or NOT ORIGINAL, this is a terrible practice and would consider ALL your coins worth less than before.  I'd think long and hard before you actually go about about doing this...... someone bought the coins, they redeemed them.... that's part of history as well!  So many reasons this would be an absolute mistake!!

[anonymousminer]

It would also be nice if Tim/Titan would update their website for the coins they have distributed. This is a cause of a good deal of frustration attempting to confirm a loaded value of a Titan coin, and date, then getting an error stating not found.

Please PM me here with the coin ID that you're having trouble with?

The 2017 Tenths for sure.... I'm guessing they would be the later funded ones.

[teeGUMES]

It would also be nice if Tim/Titan would update their website for the coins they have distributed. This is a cause of a good deal of frustration attempting to confirm a loaded value of a Titan coin, and date, then getting an error stating not found.

Please PM me here with the coin ID that you're having trouble with?

The 2017 Tenths for sure.... I'm guessing they would be the later funded ones.

Leave this sales thread alone. Head over to the other TitanBTC thread I bumped.

[TitanBTC]

I offered to reload these because they are so rare... and there simply aren't any for sale, anywhere, that I know of.   The idea was to generate new interest in these ultra rare collectibles, for the benefit of all current holders.  More interest means higher value in the secondary market.

This particular group of coins were sold direct and not made available to the public, so its even more interesting as it contains production numbers that were unavailable previously.

However, If the community agrees that they do not want the reloaded coins to be made available for the sake of maintaining the value of unpeeled coins in existence... I will offer these as peeled only, with no reload option.

If you're one of the buyers interested in the reloaded version, please chime in on the thread so we know you're here.

[buckrogers]

2) Restored coins. Tim the president of Titan Mint is willing to restore these coins and reload them with a new hologram and load a bitcoin onto them. Price for the restored coins will be $100 over spot gold + the BTC price currently $8173 per coin plus shipping.

Hi,

This is a post from today (December 17, 2019) and BTC is nowhere near $8173, where is this amount coming from?

Thanks!

[K_os]

PM sent

[Ramelius]

‘This particular group of coins were sold direct and not made available to the public, so its even more interesting as it contains production numbers that were unavailable previously.’

I hold some 2016 Titan Mint gold coins (Lady Justice Version). The COA states that there they are limited to 100. Are the 25 sold here numbered as part of the 100 and were they loaded and then redeemed? Asking as the thread states that the holo has been removed but not that they were loaded then redeemed. Just want to clarify that you purchased and weren’t a reseller for Titan....

Also I f they were numbered, then I presume Tim has the numbers and if sold loaded will issue the exact same numbers and not start at 101?

[vizique]

Hmmm

"RE-Pressing" coins.

Not sure I'm a fan tbh. Just feels a bit ... off.

In the world of Collecting, they will always be a 2nd rate item compared to the Original.
Is it worth it?

Viz

[CoinCube]

2) Restored coins. Tim the president of Titan Mint is willing to restore these coins and reload them with a new hologram and load a bitcoin onto them. Price for the restored coins will be $100 over spot gold + the BTC price currently $8173 per coin plus shipping.

Hi,

This is a post from today (December 17, 2019) and BTC is nowhere near $8173, where is this amount coming from?

Thanks!

That total was the spot price of gold + the bitcoin price +$100 at the time. Earlier today the bitcoin price plus the gold spot price per oz + $100 was $8173. Tim is doing escrow and will get you an actual purchase price if you want one. The $8173 was just an example using the gold and bitcoin prices at the time I wrote the post.  

‘This particular group of coins were sold direct and not made available to the public, so its even more interesting as it contains production numbers that were unavailable previously.’

I hold some 2016 Titan Mint gold coins (Lady Justice Version). The COA states that there they are limited to 100. Are the 25 sold here numbered as part of the 100 and were they loaded and then redeemed? Asking as the thread states that the holo has been removed but not that they were loaded then redeemed. Just want to clarify that you purchased and weren’t a reseller for Titan....

Also I f they were numbered, then I presume Tim has the numbers and if sold loaded will issue the exact same numbers and not start at 101?

These Lady Justice coins are actually from the first 50 minted. I flew down to California in late September of 2016 to pick them up in person right after they were struck.  

I played a small role in encouraging Titan Mint to get these out when it did. I had seen the concept art and knew it would look great. I kept pestering Tim about it and paid upfront for 25 of them to encourage him to quickly bring his design to fruition.    

[Ramelius]

Yes, agree that they turned out very nice. That’s why I bought and hold a few.

So the 25 you have were funded and came with a COA then?

[TitanBTC]

2) Restored coins. Tim the president of Titan Mint is willing to restore these coins and reload them with a new hologram and load a bitcoin onto them. Price for the restored coins will be $100 over spot gold + the BTC price currently $8173 per coin plus shipping.

Hi,

This is a post from today (December 17, 2019) and BTC is nowhere near $8173, where is this amount coming from?

Thanks!

One ounce of gold + one bitcoin + $100

[CoinCube]

Yes, agree that they turned out very nice. That’s why I bought and hold a few.

So the 25 you have were funded and came with a COA then?

Yes

To be more specific:
The 2014 coins are #70-94
The 2016 coins are #20-44

[TitanBTC]

‘This particular group of coins were sold direct and not made available to the public, so its even more interesting as it contains production numbers that were unavailable previously.’

I hold some 2016 Titan Mint gold coins (Lady Justice Version). The COA states that there they are limited to 100. Are the 25 sold here numbered as part of the 100 and were they loaded and then redeemed? Asking as the thread states that the holo has been removed but not that they were loaded then redeemed. Just want to clarify that you purchased and weren’t a reseller for Titan....

Also I f they were numbered, then I presume Tim has the numbers and if sold loaded will issue the exact same numbers and not start at 101?

That's correct.  These coins are a part of the 100 and retain their original production numbers.   These were purchased and redeemed and I've offered to reload them with a fresh key pair and Certificate of Authenticity.

[TitanBTC]

You're correct that these won't hold the same value as the originally funded coins. 

However, because the dies have been destroyed, there's no other way that most people will have a chance to own one of these (current coin owners are not selling).  Less valuable, yes, but still one of the more rare BTC collectibles around.

As mentioned above, though, these are offered for you, the BTC community so if people would rather just own the gold piece then that's fine too and I won't go to the trouble of reloading.

Hmmm

"RE-Pressing" coins.

Not sure I'm a fan tbh. Just feels a bit ... off.

In the world of Collecting, they will always be a 2nd rate item compared to the Original.
Is it worth it?

Viz

[TitanBTC]

It sounds like these have all sold. 

I'll follow up with everyone who didn't get a response from me yet and you'll still have priority if the sale doesn't go through as intended.

[TECSHARE]

I would echo the sentiments of the other users here, reloading coins is a bad idea. The only way I would personally see this as acceptable is if there was a clear marking on the coin or hologram making it obvious it is a reload, otherwise unscrupulous people could try to resell reloads as originals, which would certainly effect the resale value of the actual originals, pissing off your customer/collector base.

[wheelz1200]

What about the residue that was left by the first peel.  How was that handled? 

[anonymousminer]

@TitanBTC.... if you actually reload these..... you are a MORON!!!  I would sell EVERY Titan coin I own based on your sheer stupidity and lack of awareness!  Full disclosure, I do not own either a 2014 gold or 2016 gold, but if I did, I would really be lighting this thread on fire!!  Anyone that owns either of these coins still funded have a much rarer coin with all those others peeled.  Now you are going to make their coins less rare by refunding the old ones?  Total DICK move!!!!  A peeled coin is history and should be left alone.  Facepalm.   

p.s.  not one person has chimed in thinking this would be a good practice.

[CoinCube]

p.s.  not one person has chimed in thinking this would be a good practice.

Which is why it’s not going to happen. The consensus was opposed so these coins will be sold as is. I have edited the opening post to reflect this.

Apparently there was more demand then I expected as it sounds like there are already more orders then I have coins so unless some of these early orders don’t follow through these are sold.

Try to relax life’s too short to get so worked up over something so trivial.

[anonymousminer]

I'm very relaxed..... I promise
I'm just very passionate when pointing out obvious stupidity.

......and I'm glad you think this is trivial.  It simply shows how out of touch you really are from the collectibles community.


p.s.  Of course all your coins sold.... $100.00 over spot was a great deal.  You may be out of touch, but at least you are not greedy. 

[wheelz1200]

p.s.  not one person has chimed in thinking this would be a good practice.

Which is why it’s not going to happen. The consensus was opposed so these coins will be sold as is. I have edited the opening post to reflect this.

Apparently there was more demand then I expected as it sounds like there are already more orders then I have coins so unless some of these early orders don’t follow through these are sold.

Try to relax life’s too short to get so worked up over something so trivial.

At the prices these command it's no so "trivial" to some people, that's a lot of money at stake. 

These are highly collected coins as evidenced by your selling out of even the peeled coins so fast. 

[CoinCube]

At the prices these command it's no so "trivial" to some people, that's a lot of money at stake.  

These are highly collected coins as evidenced by your selling out of even the peeled coins so fast.  

I do understand that and am sure Tim does too. We agreed that perhaps the idea was not as well thought out as it should have been hence the change in response to the feedback.

I'm very relaxed..... I promise
I'm just very passionate
...  
It simply shows how out of touch you really are from the collectibles community.

p.s.  Of course all your coins sold.... $100.00 over spot was a great deal.  You may be out of touch, but at least you are not greedy.  

I certainly don't spend much time in this corner of the bitcoin community so perhaps I am somewhat out of touch with the ebb and flow here.
Nevertheless I am glad you are relaxed. Most ideas even those not thought out as much as they should have been are not worth getting too worked up over.

 

[CoinCube]

I have now shipped these to Tim who confirmed receipt and we are ready to process orders.

I understand an individual who placed a large order for these has not followed through so I am able to reopen sales of these.

Price remains the same spot gold at the time of payment + shipping + $100. These are some of the rarest collectibles in the bitcoin space and I very much doubt these will ever again be available at this price so if you want one please inform Tim Fillmore the president of Titan Mint here:

tim@titanbtc.com

Alternatively you can send him a PM his user name is TitanBTC
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=112605

[selassiesoildier]

Can we see some pics of the back of what the peeled titan gold coin looks like? What did you use to peel it? Was it anything that would have scraped the surface of the coin? Are there still remnants of the holo on the back?

[msin]

I'm glad the reload option wasn't realized. As an owner of all minted Titan's I would have been extremely disappointed if peeled coins were reloaded. The only thing it would have accomplished is making my Casascius coins more valuable as another mint (Titan) would have been considered untrustworthy.

[CoinCube]

Can we see some pics of the back of what the peeled titan gold coin looks like? What did you use to peel it? Was it anything that would have scraped the surface of the coin? Are there still remnants of the holo on the back?

I carefully pealed these with my fingertip. There was no damage to the coin from the pealing process.
When these coins are pealed they leave a small amount of residue adhesive. This was removed by allowing the coins to soak in an acetone wash. This removed the residual adhesive.

I have mailed these all to Tim so I can't get you a picture of the back but he should be able to send you a quick picture. Just send him a PM or e-mail with what you need.  

[selassiesoildier]

Ok great. Thanks for the in-depth explanation. All questions answered.

[TitanBTC]

Just clarifying.  These coins have all been cleaned of hologram residue and done so carefully as to avoid any scratches.

If you're just messaging me now about these, please include your shipping address or the city/postal code so I can quote shipping for you.

Thx

[mrv23]

sent you a pm

[selassiesoildier]

Hey are all the coins sold? Sent an email but got no reply

[alamjob239]

2) Restored coins. Tim the president of Titan Mint is willing to restore these coins and reload them with a new hologram and load a bitcoin onto them. Price for the restored coins will be $100 over spot gold + the BTC price currently $8173 per coin plus shipping. These restored coins will be loaded only with bitcoin and will not have any of the multiple fork coins BSV, BCH, ect that have branched off over the years.

I don't think coin makers should do this.

Agreed

[CoinCube]

Hey are all the coins sold? Sent an email but got no reply

I am pretty sure there are some left.

I know we had potential orders for all of the coins but then someone who expressed an intent to buy a large number of these did not follow through.

It’s the weekend so I suspect Tim will go through e-mails and messages on Monday.

[selassiesoildier]

I will look out for the reply, thanks

[TitanBTC]

We've still got some coins left.  I'm replying to PM's and emails currently. 

If you're still waiting on a reply from me, I apologize for the delay.  You'll hear from me within the hour.

[msin]

We've still got some coins left.  I'm replying to PM's and emails currently. 

If you're still waiting on a reply from me, I apologize for the delay.  You'll hear from me within the hour.

You mentioned reloading coins as a way to spur interest in Titan coins (which I thought wasn't a good idea in a previous post). Have you thought about actually minting a new set of coins? As of now, there are no real active mints with a solid reputation. Would be a good opportunity.

[mrv23]

We've still got some coins left.  I'm replying to PM's and emails currently. 

If you're still waiting on a reply from me, I apologize for the delay.  You'll hear from me within the hour.

Thanks, I wil look out for the reply.

[Lesbian Cow]

We've still got some coins left.  I'm replying to PM's and emails currently. 

If you're still waiting on a reply from me, I apologize for the delay.  You'll hear from me within the hour.

Hi Tim, I have contacted you before about this issue, now trying here as you seem to be responding to this thread. 

I have some Titan 0.1 silvers which do not verify on your site.  They appear funded based on public addresses but given that you put "Verify at titanbtc.com" on the coin it is important that they do verify on your site.

I have sent you many examples previously, but here again:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5214894.msg53520151#msg53520151

Verifies funded:  https://www.smartbit.com.au/address/1DehRrcJdv9tkKDxnbYLL62GYyDzsfEx1B

Your site:  https://www.titanbtc.com/verify/1DehRrcJ/

[alamjob239]

Any coins that are not sold by January 19th will be melted down to extract their gold melt value further increasing the rarity of any sold coins.

 

You got be kidding me my man   I won't be around you with my titan coin any time soon.

[wheelz1200]

Any coins that are not sold by January 19th will be melted down to extract their gold melt value further increasing the rarity of any sold coins.

 

You got be kidding me my man 

If coins are melted down than yep by simple mathematics rarity goes up, i.e circulating supy goes down. 

[CoinCube]

Any coins that are not sold by January 19th will be melted down to extract their gold melt value further increasing the rarity of any sold coins.

 

You got be kidding me my man   I won't be around you with my titan coin any time soon.

Looks like about 40% of these are sold so far. It was 100% but a huge order did not commit. I will keep sales open until the 19th so hopefully not too many will be melted.

I don’t particularly want to melt them They are beautiful and rare coins and I would much prefer they recirculate back into the hands of someone who appreciates them but gold is gold so one way or another.

[mrv23]

Any coins that are not sold by January 19th will be melted down to extract their gold melt value further increasing the rarity of any sold coins.

 

You got be kidding me my man   I won't be around you with my titan coin any time soon.

Looks like about 40% of these are sold so far. It was 100% but a huge order did not commit. I will keep sales open until the 19th so hopefully not too many will be melted.

I don’t particularly want to melt them They are beautiful and rare coins and I would much prefer they recirculate back into the hands of someone who appreciates them but gold is gold so one way or another.

Sent Pm + email, no reply...

[CoinCube]

Sent Pm + email, no reply...

Give it a bit of time. Tim is working through the initial orders. He will probably reply soon.

[anonymousminer]

Any coins that are not sold by January 19th will be melted down to extract their gold melt value further increasing the rarity of any sold coins.

 

You got be kidding me my man  I won't be around you with my titan coin any time soon.

Looks like about 40% of these are sold so far. It was 100% but a huge order did not commit. I will keep sales open until the 19th so hopefully not too many will be melted.

I don’t particularly want to melt them They are beautiful and rare coins and I would much prefer they recirculate back into the hands of someone who appreciates them but gold is gold so one way or another.

If you don't want to melt them..... why not sell them for melt??  That would make the most sense.

[CoinCube]

If you don't want to melt them..... why not sell them for melt??  That would make the most sense.

Their are substantial cost to bring a order like this to the market. Unlike melting them which requires a single trip to the smelter offering these for sale involved preparation and logistical issues.

I don't have the a history of sales on the forum sufficient to self manage something this large so I had to hire someone to escrow this for me. I also needed other specialized services.

The services I needed were:  

A) Each coin needed to be individually and carefully washed in acetone to remove the residual adhesive. I did not have the experience to attempt this myself.

B) Escrow: For an order of this size I needed a third party escrow.

C) Shipping: I needed to ship these all to California with insurance so they could be cleaned and then prepped for sale.

D) Packaging and sales: It was easiest to have escrow manage the sales, packaging, payments and shipping. However, this involves a tremendous amount of work trips to the post office and multiple e-mails back and forth for each sale.

All told the above represents hours and hours and hours of work. Tim was the most logical person to do this for me and he was gracious enough to agree to it but Tim is an extremely busy professional and his time is not free. All told my expense for all of the above after negotiation was $2700. Given the amount of work involved I was pretty happy with that.

To break even compared to just melting them down I need to sell 50% of these. It looks like that will probably happen with the price point I set. I chose a price I felt would be most likely to make these move without costing me money compared to what I could get by simply melting them down.

It is in my opinion a great price that I very much doubt will ever be seen again for these.

[CoinCube]

"All told my expense for all of the above after negotiation was $2700."  :O

This whole process could have been done for less than half that....  plenty of people here who are more than qualified to perform most of these services

Perhaps but I did not want to end up with a bunch of ruined scratched up coins cleaned by someone I did not know. Tim was expensive but I knew that was going to be the case upfront. Sometimes you pay for peace of mind.

[msin]

We've still got some coins left.  I'm replying to PM's and emails currently. 

If you're still waiting on a reply from me, I apologize for the delay.  You'll hear from me within the hour.

You mentioned reloading coins as a way to spur interest in Titan coins (which I thought wasn't a good idea in a previous post). Have you thought about actually minting a new set of coins? As of now, there are no real active mints with a solid reputation. Would be a good opportunity.

Active mint or active maker? 

Plenty of "active" quality mints here in US and there are plenty of "active" coin makers as well.

Really? I've been out of the game for a while, who's actively minting new BTC coins?

[bavicrypto]

These are for sale for $100 over spot gold price currently $1575 per coin plus shipping.

It seems like an additional fee of 1% of the total amount is being charged when paying with bitcoin, resulting in~$900 in hidden fees for all these coins. This was not mentioned anywhere in this sales thread. On top of that it doesn’t make any sense to me to charge extra for accepting bitcoin on BITCOINtalk.

[CoinCube]

These are for sale for $100 over spot gold price currently $1575 per coin plus shipping.

It seems like an additional fee of 1% of the total amount is being charged when paying with bitcoin, resulting in~$900 in hidden fees for all these coins. This was not mentioned anywhere in this sales thread. On top of that it doesn’t make any sense to me to charge extra for accepting bitcoin on BITCOINtalk.

Exchange fees to convert to dollars I presume?

I need dollars at the moment not BTC so this sale is priced in dollars.

Not sure where the 1% is coming from but Tim is obligated to pay me spot gold at the time of sale + 100$ in US dollars for each coin sold. That is our contract so he is probably just passing on his cost to you.

[mrv23]

"All told my expense for all of the above after negotiation was $2700."  :O

This whole process could have been done for less than half that....  plenty of people here who are more than qualified to perform most of these services

Perhaps but I did not want to end up with a bunch of ruined scratched up coins cleaned by someone I did not know. Tim was expensive but I knew that was going to be the case upfront. Sometimes you pay for peace of mind.

Best not to clean a coin, leave them (peeled) as is and adding the peeled hologram (public - private key shows authenticity), would have saved some 'cleaning' fee as well.
But what's done is done, I guess...
Still waiting for a reply.

[CoinCube]

Someone commented to me that the picture I took with my phone of the 2016 was blurry so here is a much better picture of one of these coins from the Titan Mint webpage. Whoever took this one is a much better photographer than I am.

[krogothmanhattan]

That is a beautiful coin indeed!

[CoinCube]

Still some of these left. Sales of these will close in 2 days.

[anonymousminer]

These are for sale for $100 over spot gold price currently $1575 per coin plus shipping.

It seems like an additional fee of 1% of the total amount is being charged when paying with bitcoin, resulting in~$900 in hidden fees for all these coins. This was not mentioned anywhere in this sales thread. On top of that it doesn’t make any sense to me to charge extra for accepting bitcoin on BITCOINtalk.

Exchange fees to convert to dollars I presume?

I need dollars at the moment not BTC so this sale is priced in dollars.

Not sure where the 1% is coming from but Tim is obligated to pay me spot gold at the time of sale + 100$ in US dollars for each coin sold. That is our contract so he is probably just passing on his cost to you.

This is ridiculous!  Paying a premium to use bitcoin while you are shilling on bitcointalk??  What a joke.  If anything it should be a discount to pay in BTC.  I actually agree with bavi on this.

[TitanBTC]

These are for sale for $100 over spot gold price currently $1575 per coin plus shipping.

It seems like an additional fee of 1% of the total amount is being charged when paying with bitcoin, resulting in~$900 in hidden fees for all these coins. This was not mentioned anywhere in this sales thread. On top of that it doesn’t make any sense to me to charge extra for accepting bitcoin on BITCOINtalk.

Exchange fees to convert to dollars I presume?

I need dollars at the moment not BTC so this sale is priced in dollars.

Not sure where the 1% is coming from but Tim is obligated to pay me spot gold at the time of sale + 100$ in US dollars for each coin sold. That is our contract so he is probably just passing on his cost to you.

This is ridiculous!  Paying a premium to use bitcoin while you are shilling on bitcointalk??  What a joke.  If anything it should be a discount to pay in BTC.  I actually agree with bavi on this.

Guys, I understand the frustration but you are ignoring that this is a transaction that needs to end up in Fiat USD.  Coincube stated that USD was preferred in his first post.  

We're using Coinbase to convert from BTC to USD and deposit USD into an account for these sales.  Coinbase charges 1% to do that, at the available account privileges.  We can sell these coins at spot value to bullion dealers at any moment and not pay any exchange fees to get into USD.  My role here is to get coincube MORE than spot, and exchange fees cut into that significantly.  

If you're sending me a wire, I won't be paying wire transfer fees either.  There is nothing different here than that.  

BTC is fantastic and I love it enough to dedicate a huge portion of my time to it and the crypto community but you and I both know that it costs money to move into and out of a crypto position and pretending to be outraged at that fact is disingenuous.

[TitanBTC]

These are for sale for $100 over spot gold price currently $1575 per coin plus shipping.

It seems like an additional fee of 1% of the total amount is being charged when paying with bitcoin, resulting in~$900 in hidden fees for all these coins. This was not mentioned anywhere in this sales thread. On top of that it doesn’t make any sense to me to charge extra for accepting bitcoin on BITCOINtalk.

Hey Bavi, where did the $900 come from?  This doesn't jive with what we disscussed via PM so I'm not following.

[anonymousminer]

These are for sale for $100 over spot gold price currently $1575 per coin plus shipping.

It seems like an additional fee of 1% of the total amount is being charged when paying with bitcoin, resulting in~$900 in hidden fees for all these coins. This was not mentioned anywhere in this sales thread. On top of that it doesn’t make any sense to me to charge extra for accepting bitcoin on BITCOINtalk.

Exchange fees to convert to dollars I presume?

I need dollars at the moment not BTC so this sale is priced in dollars.

Not sure where the 1% is coming from but Tim is obligated to pay me spot gold at the time of sale + 100$ in US dollars for each coin sold. That is our contract so he is probably just passing on his cost to you.

This is ridiculous!  Paying a premium to use bitcoin while you are shilling on bitcointalk??  What a joke.  If anything it should be a discount to pay in BTC.  I actually agree with bavi on this.

Guys, I understand the frustration but you are ignoring that this is a transaction that needs to end up in Fiat USD.  Coincube stated that USD was preferred in his first post.   

We're using Coinbase to convert from BTC to USD and deposit USD into an account for these sales.  Coinbase charges 1% to do that, at the available account privileges.  We can sell these coins at spot value to bullion dealers at any moment and not pay any exchange fees to get into USD.  My role here is to get coincube MORE than spot, and exchange fees cut into that significantly. 

If you're sending me a wire, I won't be paying wire transfer fees either.  There is nothing different here than that. 

BTC is fantastic and I love it enough to dedicate a huge portion of my time to it and the crypto community but you and I both know that it costs money to move into and out of a crypto position and pretending to be outraged at that fact disingenuous.

If they wanted fiat from the start.... the thread should have never been here in the first place.  I'm NOT pretending to be outraged.... nothing disingenuous here.  I AM outraged that you charge more to pay in BTC on bitcointalk!!  How you get in and out of fiat is your guys problem, not the community's problem.  You guys come here to shill your coins and charge more to use the standard currency here!!  Even more of a joke that you try to defend your actions! 

[TitanBTC]

These are for sale for $100 over spot gold price currently $1575 per coin plus shipping.

It seems like an additional fee of 1% of the total amount is being charged when paying with bitcoin, resulting in~$900 in hidden fees for all these coins. This was not mentioned anywhere in this sales thread. On top of that it doesn’t make any sense to me to charge extra for accepting bitcoin on BITCOINtalk.

Exchange fees to convert to dollars I presume?

I need dollars at the moment not BTC so this sale is priced in dollars.

Not sure where the 1% is coming from but Tim is obligated to pay me spot gold at the time of sale + 100$ in US dollars for each coin sold. That is our contract so he is probably just passing on his cost to you.

This is ridiculous!  Paying a premium to use bitcoin while you are shilling on bitcointalk??  What a joke.  If anything it should be a discount to pay in BTC.  I actually agree with bavi on this.

Guys, I understand the frustration but you are ignoring that this is a transaction that needs to end up in Fiat USD.  Coincube stated that USD was preferred in his first post.  

We're using Coinbase to convert from BTC to USD and deposit USD into an account for these sales.  Coinbase charges 1% to do that, at the available account privileges.  We can sell these coins at spot value to bullion dealers at any moment and not pay any exchange fees to get into USD.  My role here is to get coincube MORE than spot, and exchange fees cut into that significantly.  

If you're sending me a wire, I won't be paying wire transfer fees either.  There is nothing different here than that.  

BTC is fantastic and I love it enough to dedicate a huge portion of my time to it and the crypto community but you and I both know that it costs money to move into and out of a crypto position and pretending to be outraged at that fact disingenuous.

If they wanted fiat from the start.... the thread should have never been here in the first place.  I'm NOT pretending to be outraged.... nothing disingenuous here.  I AM outraged that you charge more to pay in BTC on bitcointalk!!  How you get in and out of fiat is your guys problem, not the community's problem.  You guys come here to shill your coins and charge more to use the standard currency here!!  Even more of a joke that you try to defend your actions!  

He's obviously posting here because this is the community most interested in physical bitcoin.  

I understand completely if you want to use crypto for everything and I totally support you, but to suggest that people using Fiat are unwelcome, and people needing Fiat shouldn't post here, is myopic.

If we want crypto to win, we need to build bridges as opposed to telling people to take their dealings elsewhere, in my opinion.  I say that from the perspective of someone who has personally brought thousands of people into bitcoin/crypto fold, and been involved in the founding of some very successful altcoins.

Why are you on the attack here?

[TitanBTC]

"All told my expense for all of the above after negotiation was $2700."  :O

This whole process could have been done for less than half that....  plenty of people here who are more than qualified to perform most of these services

Perhaps but I did not want to end up with a bunch of ruined scratched up coins cleaned by someone I did not know. Tim was expensive but I knew that was going to be the case upfront. Sometimes you pay for peace of mind.

Best not to clean a coin, leave them (peeled) as is and adding the peeled hologram (public - private key shows authenticity), would have saved some 'cleaning' fee as well.
But what's done is done, I guess...
Still waiting for a reply.

I'm terribly sorry I missed your message in my PMs until recently.  I did reply, so feel free to message me there or email at tim@titanbtc.com

[Corrosive]

If you are a maker and your main customer base is the BITCOIN community I actually find it ridiculous that you feel its OK to charge more when someone wants to pay in BITCOIN. As anon said, how you get in and out of fiat is NOT the communities issue and as bitcoin users, we shouldn't be expected to foot the bill for it.

I sell for BTC and sometimes I take the loss in fiat value but I certainly dont complain when the big green candles appear and I actually win because I accepted it.

It goes both ways and just because you think the volatility is gonna work against you financially shouldn't mean your customers have to pay the price.....

[TitanBTC]

If you are a maker and your main customer base is the BITCOIN community I actually find it ridiculous that you feel its OK to charge more when someone wants to pay in BITCOIN. As anon said, how you get in and out of fiat is NOT the communities issue and as bitcoin users, we shouldn't be expected to foot the bill for it.

I asked for payment in USD because that's what we need in this case. The potential buyer said he was unable to pay in that method.  In a private conversation with that potential buyer (that he decided to complain about publicly), I was accommodating him using a another payment method that is not preferred for this particular sale and explaining the extra costs the seller will incur to do so.  

This is really not the grand case of anti-bitcoin sentiment that you and Anon are trying to drum up.

I sell for BTC and sometimes I take the loss in fiat value but I certainly dont complain when the big green candles appear and I actually win because I accepted it.

It goes both ways and just because you think the volatility is gonna work against you financially shouldn't mean your customers have to pay the price.....

This isn't about exchange rate risk, and I was never the one complaining.  There is a hard cost to get from BTC to USD.
  

[anonymousminer]

 

There is a hard cost to get from BTC to USD.
 

And this is YOUR problem, not the community's problem.... if you wanted fiat.... ebay is always at your disposal.  Listing them here in collectibles means taking BTC and your scam loophole is to post a fiat sale here while still taking BTC, you just charge more to use the local currency.  Total shit IMO!!  Glad I sold all my Titans and I'd never own another one. 

[TitanBTC]

Listing them here in collectibles means taking BTC

Is this the community consensus, that only accepting BTC is allowed here?  I've been active for 7 years here and that has never been stated as a rule.  It has also been pretty common for people to accept a variety of payment methods. 

In my experience processing sales person to person here, Tons of people in fact strongly PREFER to pay with Fiat because HODL.

I am honestly trying to understand you and why you're so upset.  Is it because you've been told that only BTC is allowed here and that I am not following the rules?

If that's the case, I'm sorry we upset you by accepting dollars.  It absolutely does not reflect on our support for BTC and crypto as a whole.

[anonymousminer]

Listing them here in collectibles means taking BTC

Is this the community consensus, that only accepting BTC is allowed here?  I've been active for 7 years here and that has never been stated as a rule.  It has also been pretty common for people to accept a variety of payment methods. 

In my experience processing sales person to person here, Tons of people in fact strongly PREFER to pay with Fiat because HODL.

I am honestly trying to understand you and why you're so upset.  Is it because you've been told that only BTC is allowed here and that I am not following the rules?

If that's the case, I'm sorry we upset you by accepting dollars.  It absolutely does not reflect on our support for BTC and crypto as a whole.

I'm done.... you just don't get it.  This is like beating my head against the wall.  Let me simplify it for you Mr. BeatMyChestI'veBeenActiveForSevenYears.....

WE THINK IT'S WRONG YOU CHARGED MORE TO ACCEPT BTC on THE BITCOINTALK FORUM!!

PERIOD!!


....and yes posting in bitcoin collectibles on the bitcointalk forum means accepting bitcoin.

[CoinCube]

I'm done.... you just don't get it.  This is like beating my head against the wall.  Let me simplify it for you Mr. BeatMyChestI'veBeenActiveForSevenYears.....

WE THINK IT'S WRONG YOU CHARGED MORE TO ACCEPT BTC on THE BITCOINTALK FORUM!!

PERIOD!!


....and yes posting in bitcoin collectibles on the bitcointalk forum means accepting bitcoin.

Thank you for your input.

To clarify for anyone confused about the matter this is a sale of gold for US dollars not gold for BTC. I already have a buyer for this the smelter who is happy to take my gold for dollars.

I am offering these for sale here only because this particular gold has special collectible and historic value to the bitcoin community.  So I am giving the community first shot at these.

If they all sell great many already have. If as will probably be the case some don’t that’s fine too.

Right now just under half have sold so unless there is a substantial uptick in interest in the last two days of this sale I am actually losing a small amount of money bringing this offering for public sale. That is fine. It won’t be much of a loss and I did my best to preserve as many of these as possible.

The price is spot gold + 100$ + shipping in US dollars.  If you pay in something other than dollars the small cost to convert that to US dollars will be added to the price.

[CoinCube]

Today is the final day of sales for these. If you want one place an order with Tim in the next 24 hours.
These will quickly be going to my secondary buyer after that so I cannot honor later orders.
If you want one and have not purchased this is your final opportunity.

Congratulations to those who have purchased.
I am both sorry to let these go and happy that many of them have found new homes.

[krogothmanhattan]

I am both sorry to let these go and happy that many of them have found new homes.

      Thankyou for bringing them here to give collectors such as myself a chance to acquire these beautiful coins instead of melting them right away.

        They have found a safe, permanent home and will be a cherished part of my collection for many years to come.

[mrv23]

Today is the final day of sales for these. If you want one place an order with Tim in the next 24 hours.
These will quickly be going to my secondary buyer after that so I cannot honor later orders.
If you want one and have not purchased this is your final opportunity.

Congratulations to those who have purchased.
I am both sorry to let these go and happy that many of them have found new homes.

Thanks for taking the time to resell these. Such beautiful coins.

[CoinCube]

Thanks for taking the time to resell these. Such beautiful coins.

You are very welcome.



Edit: These are sold and no longer available.