I am meeting with an attorney, have you been damaged by wash trading on binance?

[IadixDev]

For me the only possible legal outcome is banning of crypto, because there is no way to enforce regulation in any case, there is no legally checked entity owning crypto, and fund cannot be frozen, and its almost impossible to have international coordination on internet/digital matter, some international crack down happenned into the "copyright infrigment" sector, and even this happenned only few times , mostly in Europe and usa, and bitcoin put another level in anonymity / decentralisation, i really dont see what They could do anyway, other than banning crypto all together, or forcing some warning on website like the cookie thing.

[blandana]

For me the only possible legal outcome is banning of crypto, because there is no way to enforce regulation in any case, there is no legally checked entity owning crypto, and fund cannot be frozen, and its almost impossible to have international coordination on internet/digital matter, some international crack down happenned into the "copyright infrigment" sector, and even this happenned only few times , mostly in Europe and usa, and bitcoin put another level in anonymity / decentralisation, i really dont see what They could do anyway, other than banning crypto all together, or forcing some warning on website like the cookie thing.

Thank you for you very serious reponse that isn't trying to act like I'm stupid or harass me directly.  Banning crypto entirely is not the goal, however that could entirely happen.  I will do my best to avoid that outcome if this situation does indeed go to court.

What I hope happens is that binance, bitfinex, and possibly bittrex will be the subject of a serious investigation.  Then, if the defendants are found guilty, the entire community will get a chance at obtaining "reperations" depending on if they can prove they've been affected by this activity.

I want to like bitcoin, that's what I started trading before I became "rich," but the market doesn't work anymore because of this violence, no matter how much money you have anymore.  It's actually less pay now than working at a fast food restaurant (no offense to fast food restaurants)

[rijaljun]

This would be a big discussion though, but not today.

This kind of action (fake volume, wash trading) is possible to happen in every centralized exchange. Unfortunately, you can do nothing if you have no proof of that. You should also agree and be aware of every risk that will come along your trading journey.

[blandana]

This would be a big discussion though, but not today.

This kind of action (fake volume, wash trading) is possible to happen in every centralized exchange. Unfortunately, you can do nothing if you have no proof of that. You should also agree and be aware of every risk that will come along your trading journey.

I actually did post proof and it seems like there is wash trading (fake trading) attempting to force bitcoin up right now in fact.

There is also the highly coincidental "experience" of tether printing 3 billion dollars worth of coins the same week they were sent to court starting in april which coincided with a very violent uptrend in bitcoin that I will also have to let the attorney know about.  This is highly suspicious and seems as if it was created as a means of intimidation if tether is related.  It's reasonable to believe this was unnecessary as tether didn't even have enough money to back their full "stash" of 1.5 billion coins, yet somehow "found enough" backing to say "ok lets print 3 billion more."  Getting sent to court could have triggered an unnecessary psychological disease within a trader or owner of tether which violently affected the market.

They will need to explain themselves about this as well if this attorney considers this information important.  There has not been a successful audit to this day.

[blandana]

Dude it's going down, "is this a buy or a sell signal"  lol ...dude
uhhhmmmmmmm  I cannot disclose that information because I could be wrong.  Lol but I'm not an insider.

Glad I could share,  there's some dangerous stuff happening.  Thanks for the few posters who took this seriously instead of trying to make fun of me. 

[blandana]

Update, there was just a huge obviously attempting to be intimidating "purchase" on bitcoin just now after it appeared to be going down.  This is the kind of dangerous situation I'm reporting to this attorney.  This isn't a game for this trader to get attention.  And this isn't ok to just do especially after a sell like that because someone had a bad day.

I wouldn't be surprised if it crashes all the way back down in the next hour or two.  This is not "mario" for someone to mess around with.
It's not legal to just do this because you're angry or disagree with selling. 

[luckyflop]

There is nothing you can do about this market. Money laundering, scammer ... are always here and we can't accuse them because we have no evidence. So I think you should not waste time on these issues, relax and continue to seek profit if possible.

[blandana]

There is nothing you can do about this market. Money laundering, scammer ... are always here and we can't accuse them because we have no evidence. So I think you should not waste time on these issues, relax and continue to seek profit if possible.

No evidence?  When people have committed suicide and something named "tether" is in court? It's most likely time to stop joking around and acting like there's "nothing" a simple joe can do about this situation, or that there's nothing wrong going on here.

There are most likely a hundred people in jail already for scamming people through bitcoin.  It's untrue saying there's "nothing" that can be done no matter how many scammers there are, that is not the proper way to promote prosperity or longevity of society and it's obviously illegal trying to "scam" people.  

Please share with me through a direct message if you believe you received unnecessary damages (even from commission or wasted time or stress) from this type of most likely illegal misconduct.

[blandana]

Update to the update:  I'm aware that cryptocurrency exchanges can stalk message boards and if there is a crime being committed right now through wash trading it's endangering the lives of everyone.  This is not a fun house.  Pumping any commodity which bitcoin is with fake buys is illegal I believe.  As far as I'm aware if the U.K. considers it's a comodity and rules it such by law (which it has recently) then it might be a commodity everywhere. It doesn't matter how "mad" your "boss" is.

When it's endangering the world due to their own personal problems and causing chaos in the market solely for attention or "making the news" or to fulfill a desire to "fight people online" as if this is mortal kombat, it's a serious problem.  I mentioned there could be a "terrorist" attack soon which forces the price up here or in another post of mine but that's only because I'm privy to how much of a violent individual this person is and "how long" it takes for them to "get angry again" due to my experience in the market.  I'm not sure this trend that everyone thinks is happening right now is really too legitimate and could be happening because someone has read my messages from their exchange.

[blandana]

warning: if this trend is happening because of this post I'm not responsible for a crash.  It may be apparent your boss has a psychological illness of trying to intimidate people if the binance "ceo" is reponsible for making this happen.  As far as I'm aware if an individual is using this platform and the market as a means to intimidate people constantly and harass them like these buyers seem to be, it's crossing some legal boundaries. 

This field is not for people to intimidate innocent traders, children, grandmas, adults, or any other type of person that may be interested in trading.  

I am not here to promote this sort of attitude and if there is a serious crash I am not responsible for you trusting this behavior.

[Mike Mayor]

Lol this delusional person again. I think I told you before and will tell you again. Lay off the drugs man. I told you before that nothing they are doing is illigal. Trading crypto is not the same as stocks. Somethings you cannot legally do in stocks you can do in bitcoin. You need to stop pulling stuff out of your arse.

Firm name please? Reference? Case number? Name of lawyer? Do you have any idea what a law suite costs and you also have no case. I don't even know what is wrong with you. You need help dude seriously do you not sound how insane this is? Who are you going to sue exactly? The whole exchange.

1 btc says nothing will happen. Now stop polluting the forum with your endless tomfoolery.

[joinfree]

I don't know where you are driving at with this case but mate this would not lead anywhere other than the trash house. So save yourself the time and move on with your life. Just learn how to execute trades on the market and don't forget that you don't mix feelings when trading lol.

[blandana]

I don't know where you are driving at with this case but mate this would not lead anywhere other than the trash house. So save yourself the time and move on with your life. Just learn how to execute trades on the market and don't forget that you don't mix feelings when trading lol.

Unfortunately your comment is full of shallow vocabulary and criticism that appears to be not thoughtful at all.  I'm afraid I cannot respond with an intelligent comment because you seem like you may just harass me.  Your remarks strike me as ignorant and unwilling to admit any criticism or differing opinion other than your own.  This is not about being tough here as far as I was aware.

[blandana]

Lol this delusional person again. I think I told you before and will tell you again. Lay off the drugs man. I told you before that nothing they are doing is illigal. Trading crypto is not the same as stocks. Somethings you cannot legally do in stocks you can do in bitcoin. You need to stop pulling stuff out of your arse.

Firm name please? Reference? Case number? Name of lawyer? Do you have any idea what a law suite costs and you also have no case. I don't even know what is wrong with you. You need help dude seriously do you not sound how insane this is? Who are you going to sue exactly? The whole exchange.

1 btc says nothing will happen. Now stop polluting the forum with your endless tomfoolery.

Is "lay off the drugs" a proper response that would come from an adult discussing a legal matter?  I'm not sure I can take your comment seriously because it seems as though you're trying to provoke me.

[blandana]

Lol this delusional person again. I think I told you before and will tell you again. Lay off the drugs man. I told you before that nothing they are doing is illigal. Trading crypto is not the same as stocks. Somethings you cannot legally do in stocks you can do in bitcoin. You need to stop pulling stuff out of your arse.

Firm name please? Reference? Case number? Name of lawyer? Do you have any idea what a law suite costs and you also have no case. I don't even know what is wrong with you. You need help dude seriously do you not sound how insane this is? Who are you going to sue exactly? The whole exchange.

1 btc says nothing will happen. Now stop polluting the forum with your endless tomfoolery.

and also, HELLO.  If I had a case I'm not going to disclose that information and I believe that would be illegal.  I don't have a case yet but I'm explaining myself and trying to find other individuals who feel the same way or believe they have experienced harassment from this.

[Slow death]

I have posted in the legal section although I believe this topic is important enough to merit a post in the general section.

I have been informed by an attorney that someone is interested in taking my case.
I have contacted nearly ten law firms regarding buy wash trading and harssment in the market regarding forcing the price of bitcoin up with large fake buys and what seems to be robots. If you feel as though you have been damaged by such actions getting tricked into failing trades from harassment or similar situations and believe they are illegal, please send me a P.M. or respond to my legal thread here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5211546.0

i was shocked when i saw the price suddenly drop from $9700 to $7700 then rose from $7300 to $10200 in just about 2 days. then went up from $6500 to $7400 in just one day and 4 days ago repeated the same thing, went up from $6400 to $7400 in just one day. This is typical of pump and dump in the crypto world. Just pretend you never saw any of this because it's something that won't change anytime soon. Don't spend money on lawyers because of it

[blandana]

I have posted in the legal section although I believe this topic is important enough to merit a post in the general section.

I have been informed by an attorney that someone is interested in taking my case.
I have contacted nearly ten law firms regarding buy wash trading and harssment in the market regarding forcing the price of bitcoin up with large fake buys and what seems to be robots. If you feel as though you have been damaged by such actions getting tricked into failing trades from harassment or similar situations and believe they are illegal, please send me a P.M. or respond to my legal thread here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5211546.0

i was shocked when i saw the price suddenly drop from $9700 to $7700 then rose from $7300 to $10200 in just about 2 days. then went up from $6500 to $7400 in just one day and 4 days ago repeated the same thing, went up from $6400 to $7400 in just one day. This is typical of pump and dump in the crypto world. Just pretend you never saw any of this because it's something that won't change anytime soon. Don't spend money on lawyers because of it

"Just pretend you didn't see it"  I'm not sure that's the wisest thing to say.  That may imply you may have seen something you believe to be illegal but you are not able to speak out about it "for some reason."
Also,  I'm fairly certain I need to push this case.  No matter how much of a "problem" someone's "boss" has about opinions that are different on the internet, when it's causing a war and or a holocaust in bitcoin it's a very serious problem.  The amount of money used to violate the market through seemingly illegal tactics is most likely very serious and I cannot bring myself to just "pretend I didn't see it anymore."

Just because you discover a new country that's uncharted doesn't mean you can commit crimes against a civilian there or rape or strangle their sister to death everyday if your homeland is "unware" of their existence.   In terms of regulation, harassment and violence, there are certain boundaries in respect to human life that need to be taken into consideration everywhere. I would have preferred things to not get this serious but I believe I have no other alternative.

[DooMAD]

You're still deflecting from the real problem.  When you've finished with the attorney, be sure to book an appointment with a counsellor to discuss your gambling addiction.  If you had proper impulse control, this wouldn't be affecting you as badly as it is. 

[blandana]

You're still deflecting from the real problem.  When you've finished with the attorney, be sure to book an appointment with a counsellor to discuss your gambling addiction.  If you had proper impulse control, this wouldn't be affecting you as badly as it is. 

And you're glancing over my request asking for people not to troll this thread.  Your harassment is not welcome here.  You do not know me, you never have, I have not met you until this moment, and those comments are obviously derogatory.  I'm not sure how else to respond to your comment.

[DooMAD]

You're still deflecting from the real problem.  When you've finished with the attorney, be sure to book an appointment with a counsellor to discuss your gambling addiction.  If you had proper impulse control, this wouldn't be affecting you as badly as it is. 

And you're glancing over my request asking for people not to troll this thread.  Your harassment is not welcome here.  You do not know me, you never have, I have not met you until this moment, and those comments are obviously derogatory.  I'm not sure how else to respond to your comment.

It's not trolling.  I genuinely believe you need help.  For someone to be as consumed by this as you are, it clearly highlights something is wrong.