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December 23, 2019, 10:31:14 AM
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How do you function in a society where everything is going to kill you , and all you see is misdirection and lies in a society that seems to thrive on it.

How do you function in a dishonest society?
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December 23, 2019, 12:02:52 PM
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I think that we can look at this problem from a bit different point of view. Why are you saying that we live in a dishonest society in the first place? All things are just as they suppose to be. The world is as it is because it's meant to be this way. It was "designed" to be "dishonest, cruel, full of drama"... If it were otherwise it would have been the opposite. From such perspective dishonesty of society disappears and a clear view on this topic arises. All we can do is just to try not to get involved emotionally too much in all the troubles which surround us. Let's stay a bit at a distance from everything that is going on around us: both good and bad. Such a remote observation will allow us to take everything in a more easy way. 
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December 23, 2019, 02:19:32 PM
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lets imagine a dishonest society

the first thing to figure out is that not everyone functions. it becomes a how to outsmart/out con the next person best and how to avoid them outsmarting/outconning you.
there are not just winners but loses too

even in a dishonest system you can learn ways to reduce risks of loss. say its a busy city filled with pickpockets. you learn to not carry much cash in your pocket.
say its a work place you learn to record conversations so if things come up you can record what was actually said and happened. that way you dont have to make someone believe your honesty. you can just show them evidence

some area's have corrupt police that victimise citizens and then plead ignorant and call the victim a liar. so now people use their camera phones to record interactions with police, making sure its liv-uploaded to the cloud incase the police try to take and destroy the phone.

take bitcoin with its pseudonymity. because people can hide behind proxies and usernames that have no linkage to a birth certificate. you learn to not just hand funds to strangers. much like not just standing in a town and hand people walking by your cash and asking them to come back tomorrow to give it back.
you know they wont come back, so ofcourse you learn to just not give strangers money in the first pace

even in trustless and dishonest societies people can function if they are smart and prepared enough. but not everyone will. so hopefully you learn how to stay above the average and dont become victim to exceptional loss.

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December 23, 2019, 07:33:03 PM
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How do you function in a society where everything is going to kill you , and all you see is misdirection and lies in a society that seems to thrive on it.

How do you function in a dishonest society?

You will do the same if you had the chance.
So it is normal to be part of this system and function into it.
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December 24, 2019, 11:05:20 AM
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Vote a leader that will change your country people become more violent when they think the rule of law is weak because of the corruption of the government who exploits people.
Once scums rules a country more scums are produce, dont let society change you, if you hate that society then become great and change it.

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December 24, 2019, 01:29:14 PM
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It is very difficult to work in a dishonest society so everyone's views here must be changed before everyone's opinion is different. You need to keep yourself from doing bad and encourage everyone to do good The dishonest person is more likely to appear in every society than this dishonest person should be restrained from himself and he should refrain from doing both good and bad given the situation around him. In addition, we need to find ways to reduce our risk so that the rule of law is weak in our society.

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December 24, 2019, 04:54:32 PM
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How do you function in a society where everything is going to kill you , and all you see is misdirection and lies in a society that seems to thrive on it.

How do you function in a dishonest society?
Ignore the negativities. Try to be honest which is itself a challenge here but if you do then others may follow.


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December 24, 2019, 05:05:24 PM
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Vote a leader that will change your country people become more violent when they think the rule of law is weak because of the corruption of the government who exploits people.
Once scums rules a country more scums are produce, dont let society change you, if you hate that society then become great and change it.
This is one of the good thing to do because we can see that if people arent afraid to the leader they can do what they want because they believe that the law cant do anything about it.  But om the other side, the negativities that my society or surrounding have, I just neglect it and focus on the other side which is the positive because these negative society can affect you if you will entertain it more. 

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December 24, 2019, 08:52:35 PM
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Dishonestly.

This is a pretty stupid topic just based on the fact that you're saying an entire society is dishonest. If an entire society is dishonest, it makes the most sense for no one to have an issue with being dishonest. It's accepted and it's the norm. Not surprising in the least.




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December 25, 2019, 02:52:26 AM
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How do you function in a society where everything is going to kill you , and all you see is misdirection and lies in a society that seems to thrive on it.

How do you function in a dishonest society?

all societies are dishonest, they always lie or dont give certain information,

many say only way to live if just to trust in god.

its impossible to have everyone know everything, and everyone be always sure that he says everything correct, i live in germany and no where in the world people take it so seriously what they say, and still they are gaps.

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December 25, 2019, 11:41:05 AM
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You can't really change the society untill you work constantly on changing yourself and then those who's around you

I agree with you that changing the situation around is not possible in society Because working in a dishonest society is so difficult because everyone has different opinions and attitudes I think everyone needs to change their outlook before working in society.

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December 25, 2019, 01:34:13 PM
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How do you function in a society where everything is going to kill you , and all you see is misdirection and lies in a society that seems to thrive on it.

How do you function in a dishonest society?

you get a function (job) for free, because each society is interested exploiting the most valuable ressource (educated humans)

anything else you have to ignore, besides in human history all societies where cruel nowadays we live in some kind of an exception,

people pretended themselves they live in a virtual reality and afterlife will be better and if they didnt kept going they would get punished in afterlife

so you could theoretically just do islam

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How do you function in a society where everything is going to kill you , and all you see is misdirection and lies in a society that seems to thrive on it.

How do you function in a dishonest society?

As you have the knowledge and money soon you've able to go with the flow in life. As you can survive by the environment then that must be good. The most important is you'd be at the higher who can control system by yourself and not the others can control you.



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December 26, 2019, 09:01:58 AM
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I think that we can look at this problem from a bit different point of view. Why are you saying that we live in a dishonest society in the first place? All things are just as they suppose to be. The world is as it is because it's meant to be this way. It was "designed" to be "dishonest, cruel, full of drama"... If it were otherwise it would have been the opposite. From such perspective dishonesty of society disappears and a clear view on this topic arises. All we can do is just to try not to get involved emotionally too much in all the troubles which surround us. Let's stay a bit at a distance from everything that is going on around us: both good and bad. Such a remote observation will allow us to take everything in a more easy way. 

Of course, it's easier to say that everything is going as it should.

I do not want to leave the comfort zone and do something myself.

Rogues are always comfortable among rogues, among honest people they are embarrassed.

I do not like such hypocrisy.

It must be honestly acknowledged that we live in a barbaric era.

But any struggle requires courage. But courage in society is not welcomed anymore.
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December 26, 2019, 04:54:46 PM
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Ignore the negativities. Try to be honest which is itself a challenge here but if you do then others may follow.
Yes, that's basically it.

You function by minimizing your exposure to harmful effects. This is how in psychology you should fight toxic people like narcissists. You don't talk to them, don't engage in any activities with them, basically cut ties. If the society harms you cut yourself from it. Don't use social media, delete toxic contacts, phone numbers, don't believe commercials, don't watch tv. You have to filter information and watch only what you believe is worth watching.

You will do the same if you had the chance.
So it is normal to be part of this system and function into it.

No, I would not.

Don't allow yourself to be manipulated.

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December 26, 2019, 05:29:46 PM
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How do you function in a society where everything is going to kill you , and all you see is misdirection and lies in a society that seems to thrive on it.

How do you function in a dishonest society?

Form a church with like-minded folks.     Cool

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December 26, 2019, 10:57:34 PM
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Form a church with like-minded folks.     Cool

but you speak of your church like its different.
yet you never think or realise that the church you speak about is the dishonest society

yep. religion is full of dishonesty and deception and causing drama, wishing harm on people who just want to live peacefully

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December 27, 2019, 12:35:58 AM
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How do you function in a society where everything is going to kill you , and all you see is misdirection and lies in a society that seems to thrive on it.

How do you function in a dishonest society?

That is a good question, personally I'm just trying to survive from day to day.  Others around me seem more adapted to it.
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December 27, 2019, 07:27:29 PM
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How do you function in a society where everything is going to kill you , and all you see is misdirection and lies in a society that seems to thrive on it.

How do you function in a dishonest society?
It's hard to live in this judgemental society. You can't do something without thinking twice. You can't do something because you think it is not true. And if you do, sometimes it's wrong. This cause to many people have a trust issue. You can't do something because it will lead you to nothing.

In this society to do something. You must think twice. You must need a proof to do something. Because almost everything now is lie.

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Well, equip yourself with the means and knowledge to make sure you and your loved ones survive. I don't believe that any society can be totally dishonest. There will be people who will value their morals over stepping on others just to get an advantage. It's a case of me not trying to be dishonest to take advantage of other peoole, but you'll get what you deserve when you feed me bs.

 
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