Yobit campaign participants and supporters

[wolwoo]

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Read your own signature. It literally says "BUY X10 AND EARN 10% DAILY".

Here is what X10 is: https://behindmlm.com/mlm-reviews/x10-platform-review-automated-trading-bitcoin-ponzi-scheme/

X10 Platform Review: Automated trading bitcoin Ponzi scheme

You're promoting a scam, it doesn't matter what any other shitcoins did or didn't do.

Yobit Investbox - it's not ponzi, you can check this video to understand how it works - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IQY6Ly1pFCGM7e9jV5M7m4Sv78h7Y5jR/view

InvestBox plans for btc are limited and have strong conditions (user need to have some amount of Yobit tokens and e.t.c. to get his daily %), it's just an advertisement tool with fixed budget, if it ends - user can close his investbox investment and withdraw or exchange coins anytime.

Yobit, a corporate company against your word!

[gospodin]

I think he misunderstood.  You know the risk in gambling, or ieo / ico.  He will change their mind, if properly explained.

[Vispilio]

In InvestBox there are a number of schemes you can invest in if you fulfill certain conditions, many of them offering unreasonable interest rates.

The caveat is that most of these conditions require you to have a sizable holding of an obscure "shitcoin" which is almost guaranteed to greatly depreciate in value over time...

The other risks are counterparty risk: Yobit or the owner of the scheme might not be able to (or choose not to) pay,
and the obvious risk of your initial investment losing value in fiat or BTC terms at a greater ratio than the interest rates offered...

The fact remains many altcoins have increasing supply and staking / interest rate rewards to make themselves more attractive to investors, so it wouldn't be fair to single out Yobit as a scam or a completely unethical exchange, provided they can reword their campaign signature into a more honest and legitimate text...

[suchmoon]

Yobit, a corporate company against your word!

Yobit doesn't even try to address the X10 scam, they're talking about their InvestBox.

You don't have to trust me, just read the review: https://behindmlm.com/mlm-reviews/x10-platform-review-automated-trading-bitcoin-ponzi-scheme/

[wolwoo]

I think he misunderstood.  You know the risk in gambling, or ieo / ico.  He will change their mind, if properly explained.

dear my friend
never seen a winner in gambling
There's a risk of losing it, as everywhere.
from 10% may be exact but the conditions exist + satoshi may fall as well as may also come out
pundiX up to 200 satoshi, now 2 satoshi does not even but airdrop did

there is a famous story

the only question in the economics exam:
"What is the risk?"

100-point answer:
"This is the risk!"

[tsaroz]

This is a forum and as a user, everyone is obliged to follow the rules of forum and the ultimate person to make forum rules is the admin.
The perspective for same thing could be much different among different individuals. Even bitcoin is a ponzi and bubble for some.
We are allowing coin mixers and their advertisement here which are set up with prime purpose of money laundering.
Again though bitcoin and most of crypto are decentralized, this forum is not. The admin is not only responsible for the experience of users but also may be made liable for any criminal offense originating in the forum. So, it's better to let admin decide.

[wolwoo]

This is a forum and as a user, everyone is obliged to follow the rules of forum and the ultimate person to make forum rules is the admin.
The perspective for same thing could be much different among different individuals. Even bitcoin is a ponzi and bubble for some.
We are allowing coin mixers and their advertisement here which are set up with prime purpose of money laundering.
Again though bitcoin and most of crypto are decentralized, this forum is not. The admin is not only responsible for the experience of users but also may be made liable for any criminal offense originating in the forum. So, it's better to let admin decide.

We do what the admin says!
but don't let others become authority!

I only do what the forum administrators say If they say "finish the campaign," I will.

Edit: I'm going to sleep, and then I have to work.
then bye.

[LoyceV]

I only do what the forum administrators say If they say "finish the campaign," I will.

Scams aren't moderated. Admin will only remove the YoBit campaign if they're spamming.

Please read this - LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system

What are you saying
"chipmixer-foxpop merit" here the most powerful group

Interesting. I don't see myself as powerful here, and I sure as hell try not to abuse the "power" I have. If you think any of the feedbacks I left are unjust, please post in LoyceV's reputation thread.
Mods have power. Admin has power. I'm just a regular guy, and I like to believe I earned a lot of Merit and Trust inclusions only because people value what I'm doing here. And I share data for anyone who's interested, because I believe in openness.

doesn't others have a right to say something?

I believe in freedom of speech.

[kotwica666]

I do not like this type of polemics and community partition.
We should make a decision together.
I still don't have 100% certainty, but I still don't see scam in Investbox.
I agree with DarkStar in this post:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5211902.msg53425001#msg53425001

And here is my opinion that I posted in other thread:

I don't think that advertising Investbox is significantly different from advertising gambling sites or mixers. We all know how these services work.

If Investbox were ponzi, I would immediately take my signature off. However, I don't think giving away worthless coins is such a thing. In my opinion, this is a marketing tool that helps sell something worthless. Just like the thousands of marketing tricks that we see every day on city streets or in tv ads.

But, if we all agree, that creating token and trying to convince people to buy it, it's a scam, I'll take my signature off. For me it is not a scam.

[metenjean]

Yobit, a corporate company against your word!

Yobit doesn't even try to address the X10 scam, they're talking about their InvestBox.

You don't have to trust me, just read the review: https://behindmlm.com/mlm-reviews/x10-platform-review-automated-trading-bitcoin-ponzi-scheme/

I know whit yobit have make many investbox coin scam like Liza, what do you think with some one promote gambling site?
look ahead with this words

never seen a winner in gambling
There's a risk of losing it, as everywhere.

Did they break rule by promoting scheme site where make many people loss much money in gambling site?

[johhnyUA]

We are allowing coin mixers and their advertisement here which are set up with prime purpose of money laundering.

Bad example. Mixers is for privacy.
But allowing gambling sites is really weird. And LoyceV will not butthurt about advertising of gambling.

For myself, i will not advertise real ponzie. But again, i'm against tagging people who will keep doing that.

@metenjean add everything in one post.

[kotwica666]

We are allowing coin mixers and their advertisement here which are set up with prime purpose of money laundering.

Bad example. Mixers is for privacy.

Really? So you should read this statement and justification:

Hi all!
Despite the huge profit we earn, we are closing our activity. Let me explain why.

I'm bitcoin enthusiast since 2011. When we started this service I was convinced that any Bitcoin user has a natural right to privacy. I was totally wrong. Now I grasped that Bitcoin is transparent non-anonymous system by design. Blockchain is a great open book. I believe that Bitcoin will have a great future without dark market transactions. You may use Dash or Zerocoin if you want to buy some weed. Not Bitcoin.

I hope our decision will help to make Bitcoin ecosystem more clean and transparent. I hope our competitors will hear our message and will close their services too. Very soon this kind of activity will be considered as illegal in most of countries.

Cheers,
Bitmixer.IO

[Aceeakell]

i think its not a scam promotion, according to your opinions all the crypto projects could be scam. all the projects can be accepted as scam because you can lose money.

[TryNinja]

i think its not a scam promotion, according to your opinions all the crypto projects could be scam. all the projects can be accepted as scam because you can lose money.

Yeah man, people are complaining about Yobit’s investbox only because you can lose money with it. That’s exactly what people said. *FacePalm*

I’m not even sure if having a discussion is worth. Y’all will just say whatever you can to keep getting Yobit’s campaign money, regardless of what they tell you to promote. Most participants were actually Yobit haters, calling them out until they have the opportunity to be part of the grand scheme.

Really? So you should read this statement and justification:

-snip-

? Is BitMixer a spokesman/representative of all mixers?

[wolwoo]

I only do what the forum administrators say If they say "finish the campaign," I will.

Scams aren't moderated. Admin will only remove the YoBit campaign if they're spamming.

Please read this - LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system

What are you saying
"chipmixer-foxpop merit" here the most powerful group

Interesting. I don't see myself as powerful here, and I sure as hell try not to abuse the "power" I have. If you think any of the feedbacks I left are unjust, please post in LoyceV's reputation thread.
Mods have power. Admin has power. I'm just a regular guy, and I like to believe I earned a lot of Merit and Trust inclusions only because people value what I'm doing here. And I share data for anyone who's interested, because I believe in openness.

doesn't others have a right to say something?

I believe in freedom of speech.

Who determines what is fraud?

IEO'lar belki de Binance'ın BTT'yi duyurmasıyla popüler olmuştu. Sonra Binance ardı ardına IEO açıklarken, diğer borsalarda buradaki güzel parayı göz ardı etmediler.

Kucoin, Bitfinex, Okex, Huobi ve hatta Bittrex bile bu işe dahil oldu. Binance'da satış ardından listeleme sırasında büyük kâr şansları yakalansa da sonrasında işler çok da iyi gitmedi.
Bitmex bu konuda detaylı bir rapor hazırlamış. Ve bu rapora göre, IEO sonrası bir kaç coin dışında hepsi büyük zarar ettirmiş. Bu da bu tarz yatırımlarda dikkatli olunması gerektiğini, her zaman tetikte olmamız gerektiğini hatırlatıyor bize.

Kaynak: https://blog.bitmex.com/initial-exchange-offerings-part-2-investment-performance-update/

[The Cryptovator]

So you wanna express your DT1 power for support Yobit campaign? A DT1 mentality should not be retaliatory, should not attack someone without valid reason. If you are thinking you will tag someone if they tag Yobit participants then it's like a attack and retaliatory feedback. Of course you can show your power and leave feedback as you want, but DT system is quite different from before. Community and other DT1's have power to remove you from DT1 instantly. So you will show your power they will show their power. So it will become a game which should not happen IMO.

Everyone have freedom here to express their opinions, but it doesn't mean you will have to tag them if there opinions are against you. No one have tagged for Yobit yet, so what is the meaning calling all Yobit participants and supporters? You wanna make group? You wanna create different and new trust network? Is it really necessary? I don't think so. Users are discussing each other and leaving their opinions. That's all and nothing going to change I know. Yobit will continue signature campaign either by yahoo62278 or some other else.

Admin will not moderate scam, and you can't expect any decisions from him about Yobit. He would take action against spam like before. So please don't give argumentative statements which would create more problems.

[wolwoo]

So you wanna express your DT1 power for support Yobit campaign? A DT1 mentality should not be retaliatory, should not attack someone without valid reason. If you are thinking you will tag someone if they tag Yobit participants then it's like a attack and retaliatory feedback. Of course you can show your power and leave feedback as you want, but DT system is quite different from before. Community and other DT1's have power to remove you from DT1 instantly. So you will show your power they will show their power. So it will become a game which should not happen IMO.

Everyone have freedom here to express their opinions, but it doesn't mean you will have to tag them if there opinions are against you. No one have tagged for Yobit yet, so what is the meaning calling all Yobit participants and supporters? You wanna make group? You wanna create different and new trust network? Is it really necessary? I don't think so. Users are discussing each other and leaving their opinions. That's all and nothing going to change I know. Yobit will continue signature campaign either by yahoo62278 or some other else.

Admin will not moderate scam, and you can't expect any decisions from him about Yobit. He would take action against spam like before. So please don't give argumentative statements which would create more problems.

I serve myself. For free.

Look at this multi account and feedback. Who is going on is also declaring half of the forum scammers. I declare this guy insecure.

[johhnyUA]

I serve myself. For free.

Look at this multi account and feedback. Who is going on is also declaring half of the forum scammers. I declare this guy insecure.

This is one famous english board troll, just ~him and no problem.

[eddie13]

My biggest problem with yobit is their blatant disrespect of our community and I'm not sure this would even be being debated if their wasn't money/profit involved..

I don't see myself as powerful here

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[suchmoon]

I agree with DarkStar in this post:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5211902.msg53425001#msg53425001

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For me it is not a scam.

How can you possibly reconcile those two statements? It's a blatant scam if it works like DarkStar_ described. By design "investors" get stuck with worthless shitcoin.