Yobit campaign participants and supporters

[johhnyUA]

Look i dont even yobit 10x signature, and 2 accounts tagged me red trust for yobit 10x.

As i remember, two accounts = one person.

wwzsocki states to IconFirm about his alt blurryeyed and IconFirm doesn't deny that fact.

Here is link - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5166722.msg52213978#msg52213978

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[JollyGood]

I didn't think it was possible to top the immaturity of this new crop of DT1 members but you have surprised me again.

That dude is DT1?  Jaaay-zus.

I'm sort of neutral about Yobit's campaign, though I don't like how they sneakily changed the signature from crypotalk to their investbox thing, which I honestly have no idea how it functions.  It sounds too good to be true, although the coins involved are mostly the freebies that Yobit gives away so it can't cost anyone that much to pay 5% interest daily.  Anyone have more info about whether it's actually a Ponzi?  And if they're offering interest on bitcoin and fiat currencies (RUR and USD) that's concerning.

I wouldn't tag their campaign participants, however.  If other DT members want to, that's fine and I wouldn't oppose them but tagging all of the participants en masse wouldn't help things IMO.

After having a brief look at some of the posts here and in other Yobit related threads some users promoting Yobit have really done no favours to themselves with their condescending attitude but I tend to agree with this view about not tagging participants for now unless something drastic was to occur to alter that mindset.

If possible I would like to see a clear and concise list of the users with alt-accounts (or suspected alt-accounts) and those participating in merit abuse and/or reaching DT level by adding alt-accounts to their Trust list in order gain a fake trustworthy status so if the time comes to tag them then those that want to do it can do it.

For those interested this is an excellent thread regarding Yobit: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5134358.0

[wolwoo]

I didn't think it was possible to top the immaturity of this new crop of DT1 members but you have surprised me again.

That dude is DT1?  Jaaay-zus.

I'm sort of neutral about Yobit's campaign, though I don't like how they sneakily changed the signature from crypotalk to their investbox thing, which I honestly have no idea how it functions.  It sounds too good to be true, although the coins involved are mostly the freebies that Yobit gives away so it can't cost anyone that much to pay 5% interest daily.  Anyone have more info about whether it's actually a Ponzi?  And if they're offering interest on bitcoin and fiat currencies (RUR and USD) that's concerning.

I wouldn't tag their campaign participants, however.  If other DT members want to, that's fine and I wouldn't oppose them but tagging all of the participants en masse wouldn't help things IMO.

I tend to agree with this view about not tagging participants but will reconsider unless something drastic was to occur however I would like to see a clear and concise list of the users with alt-accounts (or suspected alt-accounts) and those participating in merit abuse and/or reaching DT level by adding alt-accounts to their Trust list in order gain a fake trustworthy status so if the time comes to tag them then those that want to do it can do it.

Is this your plan?

[DarkStar_]

I still don't have 100% certainty, but I still don't see scam in Investbox.
For me it is not a scam.

How much have you personally invested into InvestBox and the non-scammy X10 token? With 10% daily profit, think of how much money you'll make! I bet that everyone here defending the X10 token has not purchased any themselves nor would they ever consider it, knowing the dump scheme that will happen. Random people clicking your signature won't know about that and might think it's actually legitimate.

edit: Or, would you, in good faith, recommend that someone invest into X10 token for 10% daily interest?

This point is pretty much moot now because they changed their signature, but I'd still like to hear a response.

(and before someone resorts to personal attacks, yes I've used ChipMixer and I've bet over 15 BTC at sportsbet.io)

[Vispilio]

How much have you personally invested into InvestBox and the non-scammy X10 token? With 10% daily profit, think of how much money you'll make! I bet that everyone here defending the X10 token has not purchased any themselves nor would they ever consider it, knowing the dump scheme that will happen. Random people clicking your signature won't know about that and might think it's actually legitimate.

edit: Or, would you, in good faith, recommend that someone invest into X10 token for 10% daily interest?

This point is pretty much moot now because they changed their signature, but I'd still like to hear a response.

(and before someone resorts to personal attacks, yes I've used ChipMixer and I've bet over 15 BTC at sportsbet.io)

No one in his right mind should invest in X10, it's obviously a pyramid scheme.

Yet there are people knowingly chasing these kinds of things, looking to get in early and get out before the scam falls apart...

Like the price of X10 briefly went from 22 sat to 30 sats yesterday, someone could have bought in, made 10% overnight, and cashed out at around 20% higher for overall profits of 30% in 1 day...

I wouldn't recommend anyone to trade this way or advertise ponzis, but the fact remains there are people who are convinced they can beat the schemers / gambling sites / sports bookies at their own game, and they deliberately pursue rigged products...

[otto_diesel]

This is the culture that i mentioned.   They must be sanctioned. For tagging everyone with copy paste sentences.

My feedback is not copy pasted & is 100% accurate with a reference link.

Sending intimidating PM's to forum members is an abuse of your DT1 level & against forum rules.

This, together with your previous misdemeanours & scam promoting antics - a tag is justified from anyone, weather on DT or not as a warning for others that you can't be trusted..

last time i will tell you step by step.

1. again, I did NOT WORE yobit 10X sig. it was cryptotalk.org sig. 
2. cryptotalk.org  is NOT a scam.
3. you cant give a person a negative trust for wearing cryptotalk.org signature.

you are lyching hundreds of people for 100$. it's against forum rules.

[kotwica666]

I still don't have 100% certainty, but I still don't see scam in Investbox.
For me it is not a scam.

How much have you personally invested into InvestBox and the non-scammy X10 token? With 10% daily profit, think of how much money you'll make! I bet that everyone here defending the X10 token has not purchased any themselves nor would they ever consider it, knowing the dump scheme that will happen. Random people clicking your signature won't know about that and might think it's actually legitimate.

edit: Or, would you, in good faith, recommend that someone invest into X10 token for 10% daily interest?

This point is pretty much moot now because they changed their signature, but I'd still like to hear a response.

(and before someone resorts to personal attacks, yes I've used ChipMixer and I've bet over 15 BTC at sportsbet.io)

Knowing the principle of Investbox, I think it is a dangerous investment or even a gamble. It looks like a bet to me who will be the first to sell earned coins. It is obvious that with such a high%, the number of coins for sale would grow very quickly, so the price would have to fall proportionally quickly.
I agree that it would be unfair for random people to click on the signature without knowing the risk.
Sometimes I like gambling, but only if I have the resources to do so. I don't have such funds during Christmas, but I admit that I was thinking about trying this game. Soon I will try .. Your post even provoke me a bit

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I still don't have 100% certainty, but I still don't see scam in Investbox.
For me it is not a scam.

How much have you personally invested into InvestBox and the non-scammy X10 token? With 10% daily profit, think of how much money you'll make! I bet that everyone here defending the X10 token has not purchased any themselves nor would they ever consider it, knowing the dump scheme that will happen. Random people clicking your signature won't know about that and might think it's actually legitimate.

edit: Or, would you, in good faith, recommend that someone invest into X10 token for 10% daily interest?

This point is pretty much moot now because they changed their signature, but I'd still like to hear a response.

(and before someone resorts to personal attacks, yes I've used ChipMixer and I've bet over 15 BTC at sportsbet.io)

I can confirm that. Yobit Investbox is a scam!
I personally invested $100 before a year and a half in Yobit Investbox buying one of his shitcoin. Also with 10% interest. After the first 24h and first payments, I was never positive counting investment + profit. So, my $100 investment +10% reward worth $95 after the first 24h. After a few days, I decided to withdraw and sell daily interest only, and keep my basic investment active. Two weeks later, my initial investment worth $0,001, profit which I am withdrawing from Investbox worth around $15.
later I followed some of their tokens, the same schemes was always repeated.
For me, it is a SCAM!

On gambling, I have the chance to win something, small but still have a chance. But on Yobit IB, I can only lose.

[kotwica666]

I still don't have 100% certainty, but I still don't see scam in Investbox.
For me it is not a scam.

How much have you personally invested into InvestBox and the non-scammy X10 token? With 10% daily profit, think of how much money you'll make! I bet that everyone here defending the X10 token has not purchased any themselves nor would they ever consider it, knowing the dump scheme that will happen. Random people clicking your signature won't know about that and might think it's actually legitimate.

edit: Or, would you, in good faith, recommend that someone invest into X10 token for 10% daily interest?

This point is pretty much moot now because they changed their signature, but I'd still like to hear a response.

(and before someone resorts to personal attacks, yes I've used ChipMixer and I've bet over 15 BTC at sportsbet.io)

I can confirm that. Yobit Investbox is a scam!
I personally invested $100 before a year and a half in Yobit Investbox buying one of his shitcoin. Also with 10% interest. After the first 24h and first payments, I was never positive counting investment + profit. So, my $100 investment +10% reward worth $95 after the first 24h. After a few days, I decided to withdraw and sell daily interest only, and keep my basic investment active. Two weeks later, my initial investment worth $0,001, profit which I am withdrawing from Investbox worth around $15.
later I followed some of their tokens, the same schemes was always repeated.
For me, it is a SCAM!

On gambling, I have the chance to win something, small but still have a chance. But on Yobit IB, I can only lose.

I think the price chart for every coin listed in InvestBox with a 10% daily interest looks like a classic pump & dump. At the beginning there is a panic buy to invest the most, to get the greatest possible profit, and then there is the panic sale of earned coins. The one who sells at the moment of the biggest bubble wins the game. It looks like you have invested too late or sold too late. It's just my guess, so don't take it personally.

[JollyGood]

I can confirm that. Yobit Investbox is a scam!I personally invested $100 before a year and a half in Yobit Investbox buying one of his shitcoin. Also with 10% interest. After the first 24h and first payments, I was never positive counting investment + profit. So, my $100 investment +10% reward worth $95 after the first 24h. After a few days, I decided to withdraw and sell daily interest only, and keep my basic investment active. Two weeks later, my initial investment worth $0,001, profit which I am withdrawing from Investbox worth around $15.
later I followed some of their tokens, the same schemes was always repeated.
For me, it is a SCAM!

On gambling, I have the chance to win something, small but still have a chance. But on Yobit IB, I can only lose.

The idea that any organisation can use these types of trash tactics in an attempt to lure in investors speaks volumes about the sort of outfit Yobit actually is.

[wolwoo]

Fuck off
All the projects went down to magma. You're up here scam chat. Go ask Vitalik, why he sold 100k ethereum for $ 1400.

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Fuck off

there is no need for such words. We can discuss civilized.

All the projects went down to magma. You're up here scam chat. Go ask Vitalik, why he sold 100k ethereum for $ 1400.

I didn't see anywhere that VItalik promises 10% daily profit if you buy and hold ETH. have you seen anything like that?

[wolwoo]

Fuck off

there is no need for such words. We can discuss civilized.

All the projects went down to magma. You're up here scam chat. Go ask Vitalik, why he sold 100k ethereum for $ 1400.

I didn't see anywhere that VItalik promises 10% daily profit if you buy and hold ETH. have you seen anything like that?

you are after the small details. I am getting angry. on the other side, the guy "busted" and screwed everyone. you can't talk to him, "market conditions bla bla".
you're being hypocritical. everything in life rises and descends. I resisted the employees trying to get over $ 100 neo here. Look at the projects in binance, they're all at the bottom ... call them "scam" if you say I'll give you the right. because they are all scam


"From March 2018 to December 2018, NPXS owners will be included in each month's airdrop plan to 7.316% of tokens. In 2019, 2.11637% of the locked tokens will be airdroped on a monthly basis, and by 2020 this rate will be 0.88187%." https://kriptokoin.com/pundixte-airdrop-donemi/

There is only a difference in sales-marketing technique between 7% per month and 10% per day. but you can't call it scam Pundix.


and yes the pos will give the ethereum %. and again yes, the ethereum fell more than 90% without giving anything.

[JollyGood]

Fuck off

there is no need for such words. We can discuss civilized.

Thank you examplens for trying to keep this thread civil and for not responding with like-for-like when faced with profanities.

[suchmoon]

There is only a difference in sales-marketing technique between 7% per month and 10% per day. but you can't call it scam.

False equivalence and whataboutism are your two favorite fallacies.

No, there is nothing in common between POS/airdrop shitcoins and yobit's X10 scam. X10 is not POS, it's not an airdrop, it's not even a coin or a token. It's just some numbers on the website that Yobit deceptively presents as an "investment" but really they just take your money to prop up the pump until they can dump into it. It's a variation of a ponzi scheme (earlier investors get paid by funds collected from newer investors), more egregious and somewhat more convoluted than the regular ones, but a scam nonetheless.

Having said that, I think someone did call Pundi X a scam so I don't know why you said "can't call it scam".

[wolwoo]

There is only a difference in sales-marketing technique between 7% per month and 10% per day. but you can't call it scam.

False equivalence and whataboutism are your two favorite fallacies.

No, there is nothing in common between POS/airdrop shitcoins and yobit's X10 scam. X10 is not POS, it's not an airdrop, it's not even a coin or a token. It's just some numbers on the website that Yobit deceptively presents as an "investment" but really they just take your money to prop up the pump until they can dump into it. It's a variation of a ponzi scheme (earlier investors get paid by funds collected from newer investors), more egregious and somewhat more convoluted than the regular ones, but a scam nonetheless.

Having said that, I think someone did call Pundi X a scam so I don't know why you said "can't call it scam".

I know you'll misunderstand, so I added the word "pundix" later. as you know my english is bad and I write and read with translate
 
It's nice of you to illustrate the issue of 3-5 posts!  :)I can show you dozens of titles about pundix. positive

pundix doesn't appear on marketcap when it first comes out, but it's over 200 sat. hundreds of millions of dollars ...https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/pundi-x/

Have a lot of premined coins, open the title to them all. XRP, NEM... IF THE PREMINED COIN IS PROHIBITED AND SCAM THE COAMS LIKE XRP AND NEM IN SCAM!

here we have joined each other for a small listed project. for what? not for rules or principles! You wanted to excel. No, you're not superior to me, you're not superior to anyone.

Vitalik sells 100k ethereum for $ 1400 in 2017, earning $ 140 million...but Vitalik is a valid man.
YOBİT? you are hypocritical because when it comes to Yobit "SCAM"


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5203127.msg53132348#msg53132348  >>>Yobit- PUMP / DUMP Tracking / Analysis
i opened this title
If it is a crime to make transactions in yobit, yes I committed that crime.

[suchmoon]

Vitalik sells 100k ethereum for $ 1400 in 2017, earning $ 140 million...but Vitalik is a valid man.
YOBİT? you are hypocritical because when it comes to Yobit "SCAM"

Once again, you're only bringing up unrelated examples as if they are similar to Yobit's X10. They're not. And if you find something that is similar to Yobit's X10, most likely it would be a scam too. There are many shitcoin scams out there. It doesn't make Yobit's scam legitimate.

Deceptive "100% safe" "10% daily" marketing is fraud because in fact it is a zero-sum game where Yobit wins and "investors" lose. There isn't much to discuss until you man up and address this issue directly instead of resorting to logical fallacies.

[JollyGood]

I buried tens of thousands of dollars into this market

That's because you are incapable of learning simple lessons.

sometimes i want to cry
man stuck in campaign monthly (cryptotalk&yobit), took the money
then suddenly things like enlightenment   and morality bla bla bla

WHAT OFFERED TO YOU?

Morals, bla bla bla?  You're advertising a scam for pennies, and that's how justify it?  

@ the Turkish community.  Do you really think this guy demonstrates good judgement?  By having him included in your trust network, you are essentially trusting the judgement of this person.  A person who will admittedly sell his morality for few bucks.  

Well he has been gently egged-on by at least two users from that community either in this thread or one of many others. Instead of trying to reign the OP in a little bit they backed his stance without openly stating it but the tone of their posts show it.

How on earth could any community or local language board consider either putting forward or backing a user with the lack of common courtesy as the OP is beyond me because he is one of the most unsuitable candidates either for Merit Source rank or DT1 or DT2 or anything else that might hold any sort of responsibility. It seems the majority of the Turkish community have not exactly gone out all guns blazing to make a case for him to represent them in any way shape or form, it seems more a case of a handful of users from that community trying to force the selection of the OP for either Merit Source or DT1 as their trust circles show.

And as you put it in such an apt manner, he is a person that has no value for morality for the sake of a few bucks.

At the moment I have added at least 3 of those users who have not helped the situation (and are part in part protagonists) to my distrust list and also added them on to my IGNORE button too because I prefer not to read their drivel.

[DireWolfM14]

Well he has been gently egged-on by at least two users from that community either in this thread of one of many others. Instead of trying to reign the OP in a little bit they backed his stance without openly stating it but the tone of their posts show it.

How on earth could any community or local language board consider either putting forward or backing a user with the lack of common courtesy as the OP is beyond me because he is one of the most unsuitable candidates either for Merit Source rank or DT1 or DT2 or anything else that might hold any sort of responsibility. It seems the majority of the Turkish community have not exactly gone out all guns blazing to make a case for him to represent them in any way shape or form, it seems more a case of a handful of users from that community trying to force the selection of the OP for either Merit Source or DT1 as their trust circles show.

It's very odd, I agree.  Wolwoo is immature, angry, and obnoxious.  

Maybe in some way he represents the general feeling in the Turkish community about how the trust system has affected them.  It's unfortunate, because now their anger is preventing them from seeing the other side of the coin.  

Not long ago the same sort of thing happened with the Russian local, but as time went on cooler heads prevailed.  Now the more reasonable members of the Russian local have come to terms with the fact that this is a global forum.  Trust system xenophobia is probably more harmful to the local boards than it is to the rest of the forum.  Falsely trusted scammers will have an easier time preying on their own countrymen than they will the rest of the community, but maybe it'll take that happening before they see the error in their ways.

I'm not saying that wolwoo is a scammer, but he's demonstrated an unwillingness to put his ethics above his income.  That just screams poor judgement.  Not to mention all the arrogant trolling.  How any rational person could back his behavior is a mystery to me.

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Looks like more of the same narcissistic whining you've been spewing for weeks now.  So what?

[wolwoo]

Well he has been gently egged-on by at least two users from that community either in this thread of one of many others. Instead of trying to reign the OP in a little bit they backed his stance without openly stating it but the tone of their posts show it.

How on earth could any community or local language board consider either putting forward or backing a user with the lack of common courtesy as the OP is beyond me because he is one of the most unsuitable candidates either for Merit Source rank or DT1 or DT2 or anything else that might hold any sort of responsibility. It seems the majority of the Turkish community have not exactly gone out all guns blazing to make a case for him to represent them in any way shape or form, it seems more a case of a handful of users from that community trying to force the selection of the OP for either Merit Source or DT1 as their trust circles show.

It's very odd, I agree.  Wolwoo is immature, angry, and obnoxious.  

Maybe in some way he represents the general feeling in the Turkish community about how the trust system has affected them.  It's unfortunate, because now their anger is preventing them from seeing the other side of the coin.  

Not long ago the same sort of thing happened with the Russian local, but as time went on cooler heads prevailed.  Now the more reasonable members of the Russian local have come to terms with the fact that this is a global forum.  Trust system xenophobia is probably more harmful to the local boards than it is to the rest of the forum.  Falsely trusted scammers will have an easier time preying on their own countrymen than they will the rest of the community, but maybe it'll take that happening before they see the error in their ways.

I'm not saying that wolwoo is a scammer, but he's demonstrated an unwillingness to put his ethics above his income.  That just screams poor judgement.  Not to mention all the arrogant trolling.  How any rational person could back his behavior is a mystery to me.

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Looks like more of the same narcissistic whining you've been spewing for weeks now.  So what?

God Damn it, it's not narcissism.
I just can't say what I want to say because I don't have English. In order to answer you we have opened the title of English translation.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5214962.0


I wouldn't agree with you if I were the Russians. it is unacceptable for such a large community to fall under the domination of a small minority.

it also makes no sense for the Russians to be indifferent to the insults to their exchanges.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5215696.0

russian title opened
Let's see what the Russians have to say.