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December 24, 2019, 11:04:24 PM
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I just read this article and it really startled me. Seems "the big boys" are not betting on the crypto horse and would hope to see it die out.
Guess that is no news but when social media platforms are applying this type of censorship it crosses some limits in my book.
https://news.bitcoin.com/speculation-abounds-regarding-youtubes-removal-of-crypto-content/
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December 24, 2019, 11:34:33 PM
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There has been immense pressure on YouTube to restrict and censor content. The issue is much bigger than just cryptocurrency. Multiple lawsuits have already been filed against YouTube for their moderation policies:

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Strange times make for strange bedfellows. So it is in 2019 when conservative nonprofit Prager University finds itself allied with a group of left-leaning LGBTQ+ YouTubers. The common denominator? Both groups are suing YouTube for discriminating against their videos.

However, it's not actually clear that YouTube is cracking down on crypto-related broadcasters. This may be a coordinated mass-flagging attack:

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While many are pointing to centrally organized, mass Youtube censorship of crypto, some are wondering if a more personal conflict might be involved. Screenshots from an alleged Telegram conversation posted by Chico Crypto show a user identified as @IamSamSmith stating “This is only the beginning of your demise Chico. You started a war which you will not win. I Sam Smith vow to bring upon you the same pain which you did to me. We will keep flagging.”

The user’s self-description reads: “Fighting back against rasist scammars in crypto.” When news.Bitcoin.com reached out to the user via Telegram, he claimed “I got chicocrypto banned absolutely.” When asked about the other channels he claimed he was involved in the removal of their content as well, saying: “Many of them are anti Indians and they spew hate speech.”

On his Telegram channel, Sam Smith Truth, the user states:
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Youtube is finally taking a stand against the ‘white population’ of crypto by removing videos, and giving strikes. Diversity is a beautiful thing and crypto should welcome all backgrounds.

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December 24, 2019, 11:40:20 PM
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December 25, 2019, 12:02:15 AM
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I just read this article and it really startled me. Seems "the big boys" are not betting on the crypto horse and would hope to see it die out.
Guess that is no news but when social media platforms are applying this type of censorship it crosses some limits in my book.

Is this the beginning for a new crypto exclusive youtube clone?

Clones already exist, but apparently this rumor is not against crypto but scam content that happened to use crypto as vehicle.

That said you should never depend on anyone. Google could in fact declare any crypto material forbidden overnight. Its their service, after all...

But suppose its true. Then what. It would not affect Bitcoin one little inch. It might affect some youtubers that make their living from that, and they would have to emigrate to one of the many available. Its not really the end of anything.

It is also not the first time "social media" bans "crypto". I think i could mention Facebook among others. Did it hurt Bitcoin? Nope. Only p2p decentralized networks can resist censorship, the rest can be intervened at any time without warning, by the State or the company itself if they decide to.

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December 25, 2019, 02:42:03 AM
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The one YouTuber that I used to watch with crypto content has also showed that the other video he made was removed by YouTube on an instant. YouTube has a current issue with the Coppa which many YouTubers doesn't like the decision they've made although this isn't related to crypto content but I think they are being tough with specific contents.

We can't say that YouTube is being pressured and with the relation of crypto content, they're becoming stricter. There are other existing video streaming websites already but YouTube is the top of them. We don't need a clone, we just need clarifications from them.

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December 25, 2019, 03:03:06 AM
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The one YouTuber that I used to watch with crypto content has also showed that the other video he made was removed by YouTube on an instant. YouTube has a current issue with the Coppa which many YouTubers doesn't like the decision they've made although this isn't related to crypto content but I think they are being tough with specific contents.

We can't say that YouTube is being pressured and with the relation of crypto content, they're becoming stricter. There are other existing video streaming websites already but YouTube is the top of them. We don't need a clone, we just need clarifications from them.

Many people don't agree with the use of cryptocurrency because on many factors like it is not secured, not have kyc, does not know where the money came from. Those are common saying of the people if they hear about the use of cryptocurrency. By the time goes by the community slowly gaining attached to the world of cryptocurrency, they see how does it benefits if you have this kind of coin. Also, this is a good source of income too; if you are trying to look at the world of digital currency, there is a lot of things you can do like trading. This one you can exchange your coins into different currency and gain a profit, we have short term trading you are earning daily money but not too much high, else a long term trading it can give you an upper advantage. Still, it takes too much time; next is you want to play gambling better to play online gambling to gain more assets. Today there are a lot of advertisements promoting the use of bitcoin and the other cryptocurrency because they know the potential on it.

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December 25, 2019, 04:29:16 AM
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I just read this article and it really startled me. Seems "the big boys" are not betting on the crypto horse and would hope to see it die out.
Guess that is no news but when social media platforms are applying this type of censorship it crosses some limits in my book.

Is this the beginning for a new crypto exclusive youtube clone?

Clones already exist, but apparently this rumor is not against crypto but scam content that happened to use crypto as vehicle.

That said you should never depend on anyone. Google could in fact declare any crypto material forbidden overnight. Its their service, after all...

But suppose its true. Then what. It would not affect Bitcoin one little inch. It might affect some youtubers that make their living from that, and they would have to emigrate to one of the many available. Its not really the end of anything.

It is also not the first time "social media" bans "crypto". I think i could mention Facebook among others. Did it hurt Bitcoin? Nope. Only p2p decentralized networks can resist censorship, the rest can be intervened at any time without warning, by the State or the company itself if they decide to.
The thing you said was right and its not the end of the world if these big platforms would ban out  crypto content.We do already experience it on the past
and as you said Bitcoin havent been affected with that until things goes back to normal.

We dont know on whats the reason of those deletions but for sure it do violates YT terms.

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December 25, 2019, 05:23:16 AM
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I just read this article and it really startled me. Seems "the big boys" are not betting on the crypto horse and would hope to see it die out.
Guess that is no news but when social media platforms are applying this type of censorship it crosses some limits in my book.
https://news.bitcoin.com/speculation-abounds-regarding-youtubes-removal-of-crypto-content/
Is this the beginning for a new crypto exclusive youtube clone?
This will confirm that Google is really against Cryptocurrency and since they owned Youtube and they know this is a good channel for Cryptocurrency, they are now banning some channels at the slightest, I have subscribed to a lot of channels and thank goodness they are not yet deleting it, they should take away videos that are reported to be coming from scam projects in the Cryptocurrency but not those verified by users as a big help to them.

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December 25, 2019, 05:39:39 AM
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Whether if we improvise a new created youtube like video platform, we can't really get the same return of what youtube could provide us with the cryptocurrency related videos. And at the same time, youtube might as well need us in some aspect. I am just confused about this sudden news but I do really believe that the content creator have violated some terms and agreement between them and youtube, not really focusing on the cryptocurrency it self. Because if not so, what's the concrete reason for them avoid crypto in the first place?
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if you have ever checked out cryptocurrency related content on the internet including Youtube you would have realized that these contents aren't really that valuable. in fact many of them are very misleading and there are lots of them that are malicious. such as those that aim to pump and dump shitcoins (aka manipulation which is illegal), or those that are advertising malware and all kinds of scam.
so if Youtube removed even 90% of them from their platform, i still wouldn't be surprised and i would definitely not call that move "against crypto"!

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December 25, 2019, 06:03:28 AM
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I think when bitcoin have been higher price will have many big power against with bitcoin and try to make people left bitcoin as investment assets, they always try to give bad reputation for bitcoin and make many people left bitcoin and move to other investment, most worried when bitcoin become legal payment transaction because many people look interested to use bitcoin than other fiat currency.

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December 25, 2019, 06:10:19 AM
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I just read this article and it really startled me. Seems "the big boys" are not betting on the crypto horse and would hope to see it die out.
Guess that is no news but when social media platforms are applying this type of censorship it crosses some limits in my book.
https://news.bitcoin.com/speculation-abounds-regarding-youtubes-removal-of-crypto-content/
Is this the beginning for a new crypto exclusive youtube clone?
This will confirm that Google is really against Cryptocurrency and since they owned Youtube and they know this is a good channel for Cryptocurrency, they are now banning some channels at the slightest, I have subscribed to a lot of channels and thank goodness they are not yet deleting it, they should take away videos that are reported to be coming from scam projects in the Cryptocurrency but not those verified by users as a big help to them.

They are against of advertising those cryptocurrencies promotion because they are scared of what crypto can do to their ownership. They want the community to just always use a fiat because they know that fiat is much more certain and effective as a world's currency.

When they know something is about cryptocurrency, they take actions and they want to eliminate it. But they have nothing to do with cryptocurrencies capability to regulate around the world.

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December 25, 2019, 06:13:44 AM
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I have my own crypto channel on YouTube, my video still looks safe now because it only focuses on price analysis, I don't know the channel in question above about what channels are about crypto? when it comes to inviting investment in crypto I think YouTube is deleting it for a reason, but if it is unreasonable there is no need to worry about this platform usually just looking for sensation, see before Facebook and others forbid about crypto but eventually they make their own crypto, in drama they usually there are some victims and I appreciate the channel  Wink

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There are other possibilities of crypto-related content being removed on the site. As others have mentioned, it could be an organized attack. But we still can't rule out the possibility of Google's opposition to cryptocurrencies, though it's much unlikely, since there are already rumors of Google supporting cryptocurrencies in services such as Google Pay.



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Youtube knew how bug industry crypto is and being a business establishment i dont think Youtube can afford losing this chance.they even showing  videos with violent scene then why not crypto related.
But we cannot change if there are groups that doing everything to bring bitcoin and crypto down so its better to not believing everything that comes out from news.









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I have my own crypto channel on YouTube, my video still looks safe now because it only focuses on price analysis, I don't know the channel in question above about what channels are about crypto? when it comes to inviting investment in crypto I think YouTube is deleting it for a reason, but if it is unreasonable there is no need to worry about this platform usually just looking for sensation, see before Facebook and others forbid about crypto but eventually they make their own crypto, in drama they usually there are some victims and I appreciate the channel  Wink

Reason cited by Youtube for this removal is "sale of regulated goods.". I also have a small YouTube channel and all videos are safe till now. I think these videos have violated YouTube terms and conditions. I haven't seen the videos that are removed so can't say with confidence.


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Who or what are these "the big boys"? Are they the rich bankers? Or the elite rulers? Let them be aware that the success of crypto will not be needing their support. They are too few as compared to the billions of ordinary people who prefer the convenience, privacy, and freedom offered by crypto.

If this censorship will continue, this will just push people to use crypto covertly. If they think they can stop its use and adoption with this strategy, they are mistaken.

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December 25, 2019, 10:51:54 AM
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I could immediately point out to the scam giveaways happening in Youtube as the root cause of why they want to remove crypto-related content entirely in Youtube. During the 4th quarter of this year there has been an insane rising amount of scam giveaways being uploaded and streamed in Youtube where they are fooling a lot of viewers that there is really a legit giveaway of various cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin and Ethereum, some of them are immediately removed but others are not put down immediately making them scam a lot of people. With this they are trying to prevent the possibility that all Youtube channels related to crypto has the potential to upload this type of scam in their channels and I think that is what they are trying to prevent.
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I have my own crypto channel on YouTube, my video still looks safe now because it only focuses on price analysis, I don't know the channel in question above about what channels are about crypto? when it comes to inviting investment in crypto I think YouTube is deleting it for a reason, but if it is unreasonable there is no need to worry about this platform usually just looking for sensation, see before Facebook and others forbid about crypto but eventually they make their own crypto, in drama they usually there are some victims and I appreciate the channel  Wink

Reason cited by Youtube for this removal is "sale of regulated goods.". I also have a small YouTube channel and all videos are safe till now. I think these videos have violated YouTube terms and conditions. I haven't seen the videos that are removed so can't say with confidence.

Of course if you're a Youtuber and didn't violated any of their terms then definitely you won't be target from them.

But the problem is that there are a lot of youtube videos that popping up, either promoting HYIP, phishing links and other crypto illegal activities. So I'm not going to be surprise if they did take down those sites and started cleaning up. Other social media platforms used by cyber criminals (Twitter, Facebook) should do the same.

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December 25, 2019, 11:04:42 AM
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that is a problem that is often discussed at this time, some say that there are many videos related to crypto that have been deleted by YouTube, if indeed youtube wants to fight crypto it will be bad news, as we know that YouTube is Google's property, is it possible that in the future Google will also censor crypto-related content.
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