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December 25, 2019, 03:25:34 PM
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I’ve been into Bitcoin since 2014. It’s always been my main thing, however I’ll admit I got swept up in the 2017 cycle and got burned on quite a few projects. I eventually consolidated back to 100% bitcoin.

Now I find myself in a situation where I really believe in Ethereum as the only other viable project. I’ve been accumulating Ether to the point where now I’m 80% BTC, 10% Eth and, 10% USDC (prepared to buy more BTC when the time is right).

I’m preparing for Eth 2.0 staking. I see all the Defi projects built on Eth. The stablecoins, the ecosystem. If Eth fell, it would bring a huge chunk of the crypto market down with it. So for this reason, I can’t see ethereum really disappearing. It’s the only crypto that I’ve actually used (I bought something with USDC, an ERC-20 token).

That said, I am concerned about those stolen $100million in Eth. That can depress the value of Eth for years. I’m concerned about the constant hard forking, the constant delay of Eth 2.0, and the general amateurish feeling of the project. I hate that Vitalik, and the ethereum foundation dumped their bags on people at the ATH.

Part of me wants to just sell my Eth for BTC and not look back. Another part of me wants to keep buying Eth as it goes down.

Any intelligent insights on this forum? Not a pissing match, not a shitcoin shill session. Just honest feelings about Ethereum from other veterans in the space.
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December 25, 2019, 04:04:36 PM
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That said, I am concerned about those stolen $100million in Eth. That can depress the value of Eth for years. I’m concerned about the constant hard forking, the constant delay of Eth 2.0, and the general amateurish feeling of the project. I hate that Vitalik, and the ethereum foundation dumped their bags on people at the ATH.
It would be better if you could give us a reference to all your concerns.
  • $100M stolen eth - are you talking about the Eth's stolen from PlusToken's wallet? If yes, then there's nothing that can be done about it. The dumping continues and will keep on going until those stolen eths are sold out. You can take advantage of what's happening now though if you are for long term.
  • Hardforking & constant delay - I would rather call it "network upgrade" but yeah the delay for the launching of ethereum 2.0 is is also delaying the growth of eth both in development and in price. I read that it could be postponed until 2021
  • Selling at ATH - Ah well, this came as a surprise as well. But what can we do? 70,000 ETH sold for around $100 million at the time would have discouraged more ethereum enthusiasts if this was announced in 2017. In hinsight, it looks like they actually made the right move. It would have been harder for them if they liquidated later. If they didn't have that kind of funds since 2018, we would probably see ethereum 2.0 by 2025 or later


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December 25, 2019, 04:13:47 PM
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It would be too late for us to dump what we have today since they have already dumped, once we do it today and the price goes up without dipping a below our selling price it would mean we will be forced to buy back higher price. That is just priceless example of buy high sell low scenario, the last time it went $300 should have been your best opportunity but today I'm not doing it.

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December 25, 2019, 04:29:07 PM
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Ethereum is good but in my opinion that makes ethereum prices destroyed because tokens are made with eth smartcontracts, makes people sell eth like investors, dev project tokens or scammers so I think eth is not too good to keep

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December 25, 2019, 04:46:18 PM
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I’ve been into Bitcoin since 2014. It’s always been my main thing, however I’ll admit I got swept up in the 2017 cycle and got burned on quite a few projects. I eventually consolidated back to 100% bitcoin.

Now I find myself in a situation where I really believe in Ethereum as the only other viable project. I’ve been accumulating Ether to the point where now I’m 80% BTC, 10% Eth and, 10% USDC (prepared to buy more BTC when the time is right).

I’m preparing for Eth 2.0 staking. I see all the Defi projects built on Eth. The stablecoins, the ecosystem. If Eth fell, it would bring a huge chunk of the crypto market down with it. So for this reason, I can’t see ethereum really disappearing. It’s the only crypto that I’ve actually used (I bought something with USDC, an ERC-20 token).

That said, I am concerned about those stolen $100million in Eth. That can depress the value of Eth for years. I’m concerned about the constant hard forking, the constant delay of Eth 2.0, and the general amateurish feeling of the project. I hate that Vitalik, and the ethereum foundation dumped their bags on people at the ATH.

Part of me wants to just sell my Eth for BTC and not look back. Another part of me wants to keep buying Eth as it goes down.

Any intelligent insights on this forum? Not a pissing match, not a shitcoin shill session. Just honest feelings about Ethereum from other veterans in the space.

Have you ever seen DeFi that built in ethereum platform that was really useful for us and fix the common problem in the community? I have not, at least not yet.

Im not sure about does ethereum is really need the fresh money but i just hear if almost a half from the total ethereum were dumped at ATH was coming from the vitalik's personal wallet (pre-mined coin for him)

The fact that the ico address of ethereum itself still contains more than 30k bitcoin at this moment.





That said, I am concerned about those stolen $100million in Eth. That can depress the value of Eth for years. I’m concerned about the constant hard forking, the constant delay of Eth 2.0, and the general amateurish feeling of the project. I hate that Vitalik, and the ethereum foundation dumped their bags on people at the ATH.
  • Hardforking & constant delay - I would rather call it "network upgrade" but yeah the delay for the launching of ethereum 2.0 is is also delaying the growth of eth both in development and in price. I read that it could be postponed until 2021
I just think if what has already said by ethereum core developers if complete ethereum 2.0 updates can't be done in the next year and they were saying the possible date to complete all of updates in the next year after 2020 which is 2021. it doesn't mean ethereum core dev is postponing the ethereum 2.0

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December 25, 2019, 05:10:21 PM
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Yes, now in this not calm time it is difficult to determine how the cryptocurrency will behave. Some say that everything will disappear and collapse. Other participants promise a good future for cryptocurrency. But according to forecasts, we are on the verge of big changes in the field of cryptocurrency. Since many other rich countries want to release their very promising crypt. And I believe that now Ethereum and Bitcoin will gradually grow and reach new opportunities in the crypto world.
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December 25, 2019, 05:18:38 PM
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Why the worry since you are holding just 10% ETH in your portfolio? Moreover vitalik and team are really working hard to keep ETH at its glory position or even surpass past success, i think you should think twice, ETH still has better chance of growing higher someday

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December 25, 2019, 05:20:55 PM
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I kind of think that the dump should be an opportunity for developers to get things fixed & prevent bigger dumps in the future. The market is probably trying to tell everyone that something is wrong and need fixing but this does bother us too much. Price manipulations have even worsen the situation... It's a bit hard to tell if something is going wrong or not thesedays.
I would keep buying if I were you. Price shouldn't matter too much anyway. There are some really interesting things happening on the Blockchain.
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December 25, 2019, 06:18:16 PM
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I’ve been into Bitcoin since 2014. It’s always been my main thing, however I’ll admit I got swept up in the 2017 cycle and got burned on quite a few projects. I eventually consolidated back to 100% bitcoin.

Now I find myself in a situation where I really believe in Ethereum as the only other viable project. I’ve been accumulating Ether to the point where now I’m 80% BTC, 10% Eth and, 10% USDC (prepared to buy more BTC when the time is right).

I’m preparing for Eth 2.0 staking. I see all the Defi projects built on Eth. The stablecoins, the ecosystem. If Eth fell, it would bring a huge chunk of the crypto market down with it. So for this reason, I can’t see ethereum really disappearing. It’s the only crypto that I’ve actually used (I bought something with USDC, an ERC-20 token).

That said, I am concerned about those stolen $100million in Eth. That can depress the value of Eth for years. I’m concerned about the constant hard forking, the constant delay of Eth 2.0, and the general amateurish feeling of the project. I hate that Vitalik, and the ethereum foundation dumped their bags on people at the ATH.

Part of me wants to just sell my Eth for BTC and not look back. Another part of me wants to keep buying Eth as it goes down.

Any intelligent insights on this forum? Not a pissing match, not a shitcoin shill session. Just honest feelings about Ethereum from other veterans in the space.
I think there will be a time when everything will be fine and go back to the way it was, I am now a little bit in storing ethereum, no more than 30% and the remaining bitcoin and some altcoin for short-term sale. And surprises will still apply in cryptocurrency

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December 25, 2019, 06:26:44 PM
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I just think if what has already said by ethereum core developers if complete ethereum 2.0 updates can't be done in the next year and they were saying the possible date to complete all of updates in the next year after 2020 which is 2021. it doesn't mean ethereum core dev is postponing the ethereum 2.0
Yes of course they won't be postponing the development of ethereum 2.0, it will continue until they are ready. I was talking about postponing the full launch when I mentioned 2021.


Why the worry since you are holding just 10% ETH in your portfolio?
Probably because his entire portfolio is $100,000 or more. Assuming it's $100K, the $10K worth of Eth is still not a joke.
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December 25, 2019, 06:27:20 PM
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Ethereum is definitely a sleeping giant, its the best altcoin so far and its still my favourite among other competitors like EOS and Tron, i believe with the upcoming upgrades it will deliver better performance

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December 25, 2019, 06:45:39 PM
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If ETH 2.0 get postponed again i won't like it at all, many like myself are waiting and i belief that the Prove of Stake will make ETH have better value, we will see many whales buying and holding to get rewards
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December 25, 2019, 06:52:44 PM
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Even if we say that you can still sell your ETH as of these days, I guess that we're a little bit too late in selling our Ethereums. It's been a while since we saw pump from cryptocurrency. What I'm waiting now is the pump and the BTC halving. Once the halving happens, it would only be a matter of time to see a major pump.




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December 25, 2019, 07:33:33 PM
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If ETH 2.0 get postponed again i won't like it at all, many like myself are waiting and i belief that the Prove of Stake will make ETH have better value, we will see many whales buying and holding to get rewards

Any big change takes time! Moving a billion dollar valued coin into a different algorithm requires a great amount of effort and a lot of technical expertise. ETH will eventually move to POS but it is just taking its own sweet time.

Big whales as well as commkn people like us, are already buying it so that they can earn passive income from staking. The demand of ETH is only going to increase and not decrease post movement to POS. For me, it is definitely a sleeping giant right at this moment!

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December 25, 2019, 09:45:28 PM
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Now we have an idea that the devs of ETH will sell again if we reach the peak of ethereum. And by that time, we shouldn't be ignorant and confident anymore and we have to do what exactly they are planning to do so that we won't be left behind.

I still have ETH and believing on it as long as there's an update and potential upgrade and development that it's trying to conduct for its technology. I still think that there will be a recovery for ETH but it's possibly that it won't be on a $1400 peak anymore.

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to be honest, I just don't feel like Ethereum is sleeping giant at all and even right now Ethereum in my opinion is not overvalued. The switch to PoS might be beneficial for the whole Ethereum community but that's it, there's nothing more to it. In the past the price could get that high simply because all the things that revolve around Ethereum and the use of ERC20 that are massive but nowadays those projects have switched to their own mainnet leaving Ethereum blockchain's behind which also means they are dumping their ETH reserve.

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Yea, I get where you are coming from. But, Ethereum has lots of potentials that are yet to be exploited. There might have been some glitches to this point in time, but I think Ethereum will get to its feet and boom.

And here is the funny thing in the crypto space: we can never be sure of anything. One minute, things are looking bad, next minute, things begin to look too good.

Hold with your Etherium and possibly buy more as it goes down. Don't take my word for it.

It's all a risk. isn't it?
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December 25, 2019, 10:01:50 PM
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Not a sleeping giant because its already pump so many times, and this dump is just a part of their progress. The top altcoins will not give up from reaching another peak and I believe ETH will bounce back next year and we will see ATH again. ETH will always be a good coin, a coin where you can get more profit and more usage.

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Although throughout 2019 the performance of ethereum is arguably disappointing, and now the price of ethereum is only at $ 126.
But it must be admitted ethereum is still the best altcoins. And I'm still optimistic about the future of ethereum, therefore I think
ethereum is a sleeping giant.Because I see ethereum developer is still active,they want make ethereum can be useful for the cryptocurrency
community by making various projects, one of the projects is ethereum 2.0. The planned launch in 2020 could raise ethereum prices.

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Ethereum is definitely a sleeping giant, its the best altcoin so far and its still my favourite among other competitors like EOS and Tron, i believe with the upcoming upgrades it will deliver better performance
The better performance is actually true to consider ethereum has planned to upgrade the protocol with so many upgraded and will be added to the new features too. The real problem here does it make others wanna buy ethereum again to be used for the long term investment or not? So many people are putting big speculation to the future of ethereum but the price of ethereum itself doesn't even move from the current position to the above $140 position again which means if that is a really bad result.
TRON AND EOS are facing the same problem with ethereum too as their price keep plunged a lot. The protocol update is actually upgrading everything in ethereum but it does not always bring FOMO.

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December 25, 2019, 11:25:58 PM
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Not a sleeping giant because its already pump so many times, and this dump is just a part of their progress. The top altcoins will not give up from reaching another peak and I believe ETH will bounce back next year and we will see ATH again. ETH will always be a good coin, a coin where you can get more profit and more usage.
Although I can not say anything about time, IMO ETH is one of the most important and successful projects that we all need. Yes, it is clear that news about Vitalik's recent sale of 30k and delaying of 2.0 has an impact on ETH negatively. But, the market needs it, I do not know better than ETH, which is suitable for second place. So be sure that the price will increase at the first opportunity and when the 2.0 update is over we will all see the price boom together.
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it's a successful centralized scam pretending to be decentralized.





















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nothing more has to be said

it's not relevant to decentralized technology, decentralized altcoins, or decentralized cryptocurrency
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December 26, 2019, 01:21:55 AM
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Why the worry since you are holding just 10% ETH in your portfolio? Moreover vitalik and team are really working hard to keep ETH at its glory position or even surpass past success, i think you should think twice, ETH still has better chance of growing higher someday
Even 10% could make a difference on your portfolio. Who knows, that 10% might worth a huge amount of money, so yeah.

Looking for the past prices of eth, we couldn't reallt say neither it's a shinking ship or sleeping giant. We're not really undervalued which is the price never really reachead a very botton mark. We've had tons of increase and decrease these past few months even year. The experienced ones take that as a chance to make an entry and exit point.

I don't even know whether ETH 2.0 will get postponed or not, still, a great development takes more time to be completed. As to make sure nothing goes wrong and everything is in place.
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I’ve been into Bitcoin since 2014. It’s always been my main thing, however I’ll admit I got swept up in the 2017 cycle and got burned on quite a few projects. I eventually consolidated back to 100% bitcoin.

Now I find myself in a situation where I really believe in Ethereum as the only other viable project. I’ve been accumulating Ether to the point where now I’m 80% BTC, 10% Eth and, 10% USDC (prepared to buy more BTC when the time is right).
10% is just enough and I have the same idea of how I divide my coins. Mostly the trusted Bitcoin of course.

That said, I am concerned about those stolen $100million in Eth. That can depress the value of Eth for years.
There is still no proof of this right?
Is it really that easy to bag $105M and just vanish like a bubble being popped? I dont think so.
They will undergo a lot of things before they could even take this out to hard cash.

Part of me wants to just sell my Eth for BTC and not look back. Another part of me wants to keep buying Eth as it goes down.

Any intelligent insights on this forum? Not a pissing match, not a shitcoin shill session. Just honest feelings about Ethereum from other veterans in the space.
I disagree to see. Ethereum price had just been playing at $120-130 and it had already been a while like that.
If that news was true, then we should have been seeing it fluctuate down until 2 digit numbers.
But look, it is still at $124.

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December 26, 2019, 01:45:46 AM
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Seeing that there are still many projects currently popping up that were built with the Etherum platform, then I think that trust still exists and is strong for ETH and will not sink to death like Titanic. In my opinion, it is true that all alt trends are down
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It might be worthwhile going with the latter on this topic simply due to the fact there isn't much competition market cap wise for Ethereum from similar platforms and its recent upgrades now give it a ranking of second place under EOS by CCID's global blockchain technology ratings index so there's plenty of potential once the market realizes it

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Seeing that there are still many projects currently popping up that were built with the Etherum platform, then I think that trust still exists and is strong for ETH and will not sink to death like Titanic. In my opinion, it is true that all alt trends are down
but not many are serious. even most are junk coins. just look at how easy people make tokens with the ethereum blockchain and they can make their trash tokens with only very little capital. that's why ethereum is widely used as a tool to make junk tokens.
it all depends on how the developer resolves this problem. if you want investor confidence back then there must be something fixed. indirectly the junk tokens make trust in ETH also flawed.









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No need to worry about ethereum, because Ethereum has a professional developer. The current price is very bad and there are no signs to go up. But I am sure ethereum will rise when Ethereum 2.0 is launched soon.
we know ethereum as a valuable altcoin compared to other altcoins. Ethereum is the center of other coins for development.

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December 26, 2019, 02:43:22 AM
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I'd never consider a coin that has gone thousands percent up from its initial price as a sleeping giant even in the slightest. The premise about this PoS switching is promising but doesn't necessarily make it any better than it's now.
It might be worthwhile going with the latter on this topic simply due to the fact there isn't much competition market cap wise for Ethereum from similar platforms and its recent upgrades now give it a ranking of second place under EOS by CCID's global blockchain technology ratings index so there's plenty of potential once the market realizes it
Quite the opposite I think, once people realizes that these platform like ethereum which shares the same category as EOS or anything out there gives no real meaning, it becomes overvalued.

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December 26, 2019, 03:10:46 AM
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None of the above. Ethereum is just a sailing ship. Sometimes, it braves bad weather in the ocean. Sometimes, the weather is good and its sailing is perfectly smooth. I am referring to its price rising and falling. It is not sinking obviously. It is moving forward. Take a look at their lined up updates and you will realize how active it is. It is not a sleeping giant either. It is widely awake. It has yet to get back to $1,400 though.
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I would say its a Sinking Sleeping Giant which is on a ship
It could sink but it is also a sleeping giant at the same price

The risk reward is huge at least imo
Putting the price assume at $200
With target profit range of $600

At most, you will just lose your $200
But the reward side is really huge if the coin could overturn the bearish trend

There's no doubt ever sinking ship could somehow reward one with treasures if you ride on the right one
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At first, Vitalik and his team decided to sell some ethereum for them to fund the ETH 2.0 that will transitioned from POW to POS and it is not an easy thing, and they are the only one I knew who have guts to make this possible. The main thing why it is delayed because they want to transition smoothly without bugs.

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You do have some good points.
But why give up now?
I bet you had been holding those ETH for a long time now.
Besides, ETH is one of the trusted coins out there. Where else would you put all those 10 percent that you have been holding?
You already have a large percentage for bitcoin so IMO risking it with another new coin will just be difficult and it might end up bad.
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None of the above. Ethereum is just a sailing ship. Sometimes, it braves bad weather in the ocean. Sometimes, the weather is good and its sailing is perfectly smooth. I am referring to its price rising and falling. It is not sinking obviously. It is moving forward. Take a look at their lined up updates and you will realize how active it is. It is not a sleeping giant either. It is widely awake. It has yet to get back to $1,400 though.
I think ETH is considered a very good option during this time because investors have been inclined to invest a lot in this coin recently. The market is currently not stable, so it takes a lot of time for things to get better. Personally, I still spend a lot of time researching because ETH has helped me earn huge profits in the past

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During the recent weeks, reports are coming in that a number of Ethereum developers are no longer being active in the project and many of them are dumping their coins. And this is what money can do to the people. Many of these developers became filthy rich, when they sold a part of their stash at ATH prices ($1,450 per coin). Now they know that ETH is never going to get back to those levels, and they are busy spending their money and moving on to the other projects. Ethereum 2.0 was supposed to roll out by the end of 2019. The new date being given is 2024.

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I was also a follower of ETH before, and when the market exploded in 2017 I was really crazy about it. However, over time, ICOs have revealed its limitations, which undermines my beliefs and that of many investors.
Up to now I only keep 20% of ETH in my total assets. If in 2020 ETH cannot be upgraded to 2.0, I will probably sell all the ETH I hold and move to Bitcoin.


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December 26, 2019, 05:03:14 AM
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Although ETH's reputation is not good at the moment because of the junk and fraudulent ICOs, I still believe in ETH. ETH is currently being traded at $ 120 ~ 130, which is a good price and worth buying.
Perhaps the news of the $ 100 million stolen and the delay in upgrading 2.0 caused the price of ETH to plummet, but I'm sure the development team will have a way to fix this and bring ETH back.


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December 26, 2019, 05:09:46 AM
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I’ve been into Bitcoin since 2014. It’s always been my main thing, however I’ll admit I got swept up in the 2017 cycle and got burned on quite a few projects. I eventually consolidated back to 100% bitcoin.

Now I find myself in a situation where I really believe in Ethereum as the only other viable project. I’ve been accumulating Ether to the point where now I’m 80% BTC, 10% Eth and, 10% USDC (prepared to buy more BTC when the time is right).

I’m preparing for Eth 2.0 staking. I see all the Defi projects built on Eth. The stablecoins, the ecosystem. If Eth fell, it would bring a huge chunk of the crypto market down with it. So for this reason, I can’t see ethereum really disappearing. It’s the only crypto that I’ve actually used (I bought something with USDC, an ERC-20 token).

That said, I am concerned about those stolen $100million in Eth. That can depress the value of Eth for years. I’m concerned about the constant hard forking, the constant delay of Eth 2.0, and the general amateurish feeling of the project. I hate that Vitalik, and the ethereum foundation dumped their bags on people at the ATH.

Part of me wants to just sell my Eth for BTC and not look back. Another part of me wants to keep buying Eth as it goes down.

Any intelligent insights on this forum? Not a pissing match, not a shitcoin shill session. Just honest feelings about Ethereum from other veterans in the space.
Besides bitcoin the only other coin that I'm watching is ethereum and that is because I have a very strong feeling that at some point in the future ethereum is going to wake up and give once again amazing profits, but if you do not feel like taking your chances then it is OK to just keep your current portfolio in which 10% is dedicated to it, that way if it crashes then you're not going to be that affected by it and if it goes up then you are not completely left out and you still obtain some profits.
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The answer is not yet sure but I still holding some eth on my purse. This is the only project that helps me understand tokenization and smart contract. I guess we could say that this project still is an early adoption of their paltform. Blockchain still on going imrpovement and eth still doing their thing to make their platform a good one. From 2017 ATH of 1.4k$ down to 127$ is a huge loss but its not due to a low value of project but bearish sentiment of this market. Well, on my final thought eth is one of the sleeping giants.



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December 26, 2019, 05:27:51 AM
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When viewed from the circumstances that op provided, I conclude that ethereum is just a sleeping giant who is going through a difficult period for several reasons.
Update 2.0 that does not come and the time is unclear could be a scourge for some people to drop the trust of believers.
negative issues will always exist in this crypto world not only in ethereum. What is clear as long as the developer is still there and develop their coins, I think there is hope.



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December 26, 2019, 06:11:34 AM
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You can keep accumulating Ethereum at its low price but don't have in mind that it will get anywhere close to its ATH. Ethereum network has lots of setbacks which needs to be fixed given the stolen tokens will be dumped from time to time is a major concern for price growth.
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I think the distribution of your portfolio is exactly 80% for bitcoin, 10% for ethereum and the rest for other coins. so I don't think you need to sell ethereum for bitcoin. and I'm also still optimistic that ethereum can pump again when the bear market has come. hopefully next year after bitcoin is reduced by half bitcoin can pump and make the altcoin market green again.

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December 26, 2019, 06:34:01 AM
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I could only suggest you hold some ethereum while you can sell the other ethereum, and back to bitcoin to hold. I think ethereum has a chance to increase, especially if the next update is run better because people will see how good the next update. But if the next update is not like what they hope, ethereum will need longer to increase back. That will be up to you to hold and sell some ethereum or hold all of ethereum until the next update release. Make sure you think twice before you decide.

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December 26, 2019, 07:09:54 AM
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Ethereum's team has announced this and of course the other alts will do the same, just that they are not public. You should know that this is a pricing market and that things that should not have happened are common in this market. First you need to understand the nature of the market, then you have the right speculation strategy. I think ETH is pretty good in the future, when Etherem 2.0 really works, we can wait for the price to be high and sell for profit, don't try to do Staking because Ethereum's team will soon be pushing the price down.

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December 26, 2019, 08:14:30 AM
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Of all the altcoins in the market, ethereum is my all time favorite. The potential is beyond compare to the others. We can't also deny the fact that most of the investors consider ethereum after bitcoin. It isnt a sinking ship, remember that the dump is a usual scenario in crypto space, what you will look at ethereum's is the continuous use of the platform and the contract.

You'll see how eth will gonna boom like before.
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December 26, 2019, 08:19:03 AM
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I was also surprised to see lots of news about a huge dump of Ethereum, Updated: $25 Mln Worth of Ethereum (ETH) Has Been Sent to Top Exchanges. Is Major Sell-Off Imminent?.

It was even mentioned that it could be Vitalik or someone close to the project is dumping it. So it's really hard what to say about the current status of this project. Part of me wanted to see Ethereum recovering, but it the people behind the project are dumping it then what can you tell about the state of the project?
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December 26, 2019, 08:25:29 AM
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Of all the altcoins in the market, ethereum is my all time favorite. The potential is beyond compare to the others. We can't also deny the fact that most of the investors consider ethereum after bitcoin. It isnt a sinking ship, remember that the dump is a usual scenario in crypto space, what you will look at ethereum's is the continuous use of the platform and the contract.

You'll see how eth will gonna boom like before.

what you all whine here is a fact and represents the etherium coin  , that is why im also going to say  that etherium is a sleeping giant and not a sinking ship  .

 speaking of sleeping giant  that means that it will sleep or will not show any sign of increase after a long period of time and we people are only going to be shock one day that eth are pumping and that means he is now awake     .  for now all we gotta do is keep calm and wait  .
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December 26, 2019, 08:27:21 AM
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so you can take the ETH now under $ 130, I'm afraid next year we will all no longer see below that cheap price again, I still buy some ETH for long-term investment, at this time the price is still fairly cheap and it is the end of 2019, I also felt the ETH owned by the ETH foundation dumped on ATH a few years ago it was possible to buy it when it was cheap now and I think the funds were not spent on the project, but I think ETH is like a sleeping giant that might someday wake up again and surprise many people, You invest exactly as I hold ETH

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December 26, 2019, 09:04:28 AM
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I think keeping 10% ETH as you do is good option from now. ETH is changing to able to staking, but i'm not really believe in ETH staking tech. ETH already a good project, but changing to POS is not guarantee that they will success. However, keep a small part in ETH is good for investors to avoid missing a great chance to have good profit.


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For me ETH is a sinking ship in the middle of an ocean that cannot be helped anymore.
So don't expect more from him, too many accidents have been made on purpose.
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For me ETH is a sinking ship in the middle of an ocean that cannot be helped anymore.
So don't expect more from him, too many accidents have been made on purpose.

I want to ask the mistake they made, because so far eth is one of the altcoins that provides progress in the field of crypto development. and I think eth is currently asleep for the price issue but when compared with the technology which until now continues to help many developers

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Even though it looks like both sinking and a sleeping giant. It is more on a sleeping giant compare to sinking ship because when you talk about a sleeping giant, there is a huge potential for it and that is what I see in ethereum because a lot of companies are building their application with it and it proves that there is something in ethereum that the other smart contract cryptocurrency doesn't have.

 
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Ethereum sleeping well and never wake up again after raise with higher last October on 2017, never see ethereum have higher price above $1000 and look impossible getting ethereum can be with higher price, maybe less hope for getting much profit with ethereum investing because Vitalik as owner never want to make new way how to wake up ethereum price.

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December 26, 2019, 11:53:42 AM
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Ethereum sleeping well and never wake up again after raise with higher last October on 2017, never see ethereum have higher price above $1000 and look impossible getting ethereum can be with higher price, maybe less hope for getting much profit with ethereum investing because Vitalik as owner never want to make new way how to wake up ethereum price.
It is not only Ethereum gives the shot last 2017, everything does. This year is another market story, though we are thinking that ETH is a sinking/sleeping giant but can't deny that we are still in hope that one day, this sleeping giant will wake up.
Frankly speaking, and even ETH price sinks but wondering why it still in the 2nd place after bitcoin in the CMC chart.

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Disatisfying individuals never see the importance of a certain coin. Does Ethereum already leave behind from the market competition? Of course not, Ethereum still alive and still consider a competitive coin in the market however we couldn't also decline those people think negative as they also suffering big losses after the bullish market end. Maybe they are just blinded enough to see the good sides of ETH that will surely help to have a better price in the future.

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December 26, 2019, 12:32:22 PM
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the only one? come on don't be too upset after the fire at the end of 2017.
maybe ETH is indeed one of the best alt projects, but there are still others you just need to look deeper into, I admit you might be disappointed because the bubble is very high in alt 2017.
but it's over. You should open your gaze to other projects, maybe some of the top 50 you can try.
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December 26, 2019, 12:38:19 PM
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It is not  only ethereum that is the only sleeping giant I also see Litecoin as another sleeping giant altcoin waiting to explode in 2020 more improved ethereum 2.0 is coming next year with improved scalability and bitcoin halving next year would surely pumps with major altcoins like eth thus two major events in 2020 that might likely pump eth, you should hodl your 10% portfolio definitely you would earn reasonable amount of profit from it

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December 26, 2019, 12:56:09 PM
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I think bitcoin was more profitable, So far i know altcoin was following bitcoin price trend and it's something if bitcoin go up or down altcoin will affected the only altcoin can rise when it's was strong enough or bitcoin price was stagnant, How about spliting your fund on bitcoin and altcoin to get more better results?
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December 26, 2019, 01:56:00 PM
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I look at actions and circumstances. Once I bought Ether for 8$ and imagine my joy when its price rose to 1000$. In general, I earned quite well, but now the situation with the ether is incomprehensible, so at the moment I stick closer to bitcoin.
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December 26, 2019, 03:25:14 PM
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When viewed from the circumstances that op provided, I conclude that ethereum is just a sleeping giant who is going through a difficult period for several reasons.
Update 2.0 that does not come and the time is unclear could be a scourge for some people to drop the trust of believers.
negative issues will always exist in this crypto world not only in ethereum. What is clear as long as the developer is still there and develop their coins, I think there is hope.
if the ETH 2.0 update isn’t released on time, then again we will see a long drop in Ethereum price... it will be even sadder than last year. if this will happens again there is a chance that we will see Ethereum for $ 30, which will be very dangerous for its existence in this market. I think that Vitalik will do everything that is possible for the deadlines for the implementation of goals were saved






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December 26, 2019, 04:45:46 PM
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I always loved Ethereum & still do, i like it more than BTC itself.
Ethereum should be a $1000+ token, but this cryptosphere is just so weird,.
It's the best blockchain with the best Dapps out there, so sad to see it worth like $150 & may be even lower if this bear winter continues.
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70% sleeping giant for me. the reason why i still have a feel eth just a sinking ship because the dev it self , delay and delay about eth 2.
also , according to vitalik it self on a news i read( i forget what name news is that) eth is stuck in the middle of confusion.
“In order to add scalability to my blockchain – what should I sacrifice? Should I sacrifice Decentralization? Or should I sacrifice Security?”
however, enthusiasm for eth 2 still damn high, lets see phase 0 on january.

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I don't know about giving up on Ethereum at this point. It was too late when I heard Ethereum was sinking because of a recent hacking. Though it's a bummer that Ethereum is being dump, I'm just waiting for it to finish in order to buy some because I know that Ethereum would one day go pass beyond $150. At least we are yet given another opportunity by the dumpers to invest in some cheap Ethereum again.
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December 27, 2019, 03:01:46 AM
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I’ve been into Bitcoin since 2014. It’s always been my main thing, however I’ll admit I got swept up in the 2017 cycle and got burned on quite a few projects. I eventually consolidated back to 100% bitcoin.

Now I find myself in a situation where I really believe in Ethereum as the only other viable project. I’ve been accumulating Ether to the point where now I’m 80% BTC, 10% Eth and, 10% USDC (prepared to buy more BTC when the time is right).

I’m preparing for Eth 2.0 staking. I see all the Defi projects built on Eth. The stablecoins, the ecosystem. If Eth fell, it would bring a huge chunk of the crypto market down with it. So for this reason, I can’t see ethereum really disappearing. It’s the only crypto that I’ve actually used (I bought something with USDC, an ERC-20 token).

That said, I am concerned about those stolen $100million in Eth. That can depress the value of Eth for years. I’m concerned about the constant hard forking, the constant delay of Eth 2.0, and the general amateurish feeling of the project. I hate that Vitalik, and the ethereum foundation dumped their bags on people at the ATH.

Part of me wants to just sell my Eth for BTC and not look back. Another part of me wants to keep buying Eth as it goes down.

Any intelligent insights on this forum? Not a pissing match, not a shitcoin shill session. Just honest feelings about Ethereum from other veterans in the space.

I'm also do not see Ethereum going down to its position, I strongly believe that it is secured in the second spot, so many tokens are relying on Ethereum, I am very bullish on Ethereum in fact 20% of my portfolio is Ethereum, Bitcoin being the main, even if there are few ICO or IEO that build their token in Ethereum, there are still who use their platform for educational or company only token.


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December 27, 2019, 03:23:48 AM
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I still believe in Ethereum and I consider it a sleeping giant and it seems that Ethereum developers continue to work and work hard to improve network scalability and reduce congestion that has happened so far and I believe that 2020 the giant will wake up from sleep.
it's better to do Ethereum stock to hold it and wait for the giant to wake up and prove it.

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December 27, 2019, 03:29:31 AM
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I still believe in Ethereum and I consider it a sleeping giant and it seems that Ethereum developers continue to work and work hard to improve network scalability and reduce congestion that has happened so far and I believe that 2020 the giant will wake up from sleep.
it's better to do Ethereum stock to hold it and wait for the giant to wake up and prove it.
we all know that ethereum is indeed an asset that once had a glory with a very fast developing market. but the ethereum 2.0 update doesn't necessarily make the price go up. ethereum prices can improve if the market is really in a better condition. although in an update if the market does not support I think we will wait longer for this giant to wake up from his long sleep.
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December 27, 2019, 03:36:12 AM
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None of the above. Ethereum is just a sailing ship. Sometimes, it braves bad weather in the ocean. Sometimes, the weather is good and its sailing is perfectly smooth. I am referring to its price rising and falling. It is not sinking obviously. It is moving forward. Take a look at their lined up updates and you will realize how active it is. It is not a sleeping giant either. It is widely awake. It has yet to get back to $1,400 though.
I think ETH is considered a very good option during this time because investors have been inclined to invest a lot in this coin recently. The market is currently not stable, so it takes a lot of time for things to get better. Personally, I still spend a lot of time researching because ETH has helped me earn huge profits in the past

However, you need to be more careful when investing in the long term because even a small mistake will make you lose more than 30% of your assets in a short time.

That loss in a short time is unavoidable especially if your investment is planned for the long term. A long term investment is accepting the fact that the value of your portfolio will dive and rise depending on the condition of the market. But since you are looking at the longer range it does not matter much for as long as it is growing little by little despite the price fluctuations.

ETH is next to Bitcoin. There is no reason to fear about its progress. It has been number 2 for a long time in the overall rank.
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December 27, 2019, 03:43:18 AM
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I think etherum is a sleeping giant. we know that vitalik always makes a surprise, as it did in early 2018 when it sold large quantities of etherum and then the market went down. it means that most likely at the moment he also has a large amount to pump etherum, and also we are waiting for etherum 2.0.
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December 27, 2019, 07:28:35 AM
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When viewed from the circumstances that op provided, I conclude that ethereum is just a sleeping giant who is going through a difficult period for several reasons.
Update 2.0 that does not come and the time is unclear could be a scourge for some people to drop the trust of believers.
negative issues will always exist in this crypto world not only in ethereum. What is clear as long as the developer is still there and develop their coins, I think there is hope.
if the ETH 2.0 update isn’t released on time, then again we will see a long drop in Ethereum price... it will be even sadder than last year. if this will happens again there is a chance that we will see Ethereum for $ 30, which will be very dangerous for its existence in this market. I think that Vitalik will do everything that is possible for the deadlines for the implementation of goals were saved
that will happen for sure as plustoken and more whale have been sending their ethereum to the market. I just expect the price of ethereum will touch $100 in the future. I can't expect if that will happen next year or when but the fundamental of the ethereum itself has already told us about that.
Ethereum POS will bring so many holders to stake their ethereum to get the annual yield but that will not happen next year. that means dump for ethereum caused by some whale may not be patience for that.
Vitalik is even prefer holding bitcoin rather than ethereum.

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It would be too late for us to dump what we have today since they have already dumped, once we do it today and the price goes up without dipping a below our selling price it would mean we will be forced to buy back higher price. That is just priceless example of buy high sell low scenario, the last time it went $300 should have been your best opportunity but today I'm not doing it.

those who have a lot of capital will rule the market.
however the price will continue to rise whether it is manipulated or not, because eth use every year will continue to increase.
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December 27, 2019, 10:00:08 AM
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I still believe with ethereum can pump again we just need to be patient and wait again. at this time the ethereum value has decreased dramatically but that does not mean ethereum will sink and end. ethereum is currently in second place as the top coin and the developers are also still active and plan to release ethereum version 2.0 so in my opinion there is still a chance for ethereum to reach the highest price again.

 
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December 27, 2019, 10:37:03 AM
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Sleeping giant... why would you think it's sinking, crypto is not a traditional type of investment, it's very unpredictable here, what we think that its sinking because we based in other kind of investment is wrong.

Man calm down, just also look at the past performance of ETH so you'll realize how strong this asset is.

Do you think investors will just let go and leave crypto, no.. they will stay here because they believe on the future potential of ETH that will help to be a too for massive adoption.

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December 27, 2019, 11:00:13 AM
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Who told you that the ship for ETH is sinking do you see the rankings down? it's still placed on top of the alt's chain so I conclude that there's still a potential for another ATH to reach up. Maybe you are just frustrated for the current situation and if you see the whole things all of the alt's suffer from the dump and the good thing there is you can buy them at the cheapest rate.

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December 27, 2019, 11:24:04 AM
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Sleeping Giant on my own opinion.

You are using PlusToken as an example of the drift in price of Ethereum.
Okay, let us say that really happened.
But how much was just lost in the price of Ethereum? $10? That low? For how much $200M?
By that, we could say that its strength is still there.
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December 27, 2019, 11:36:23 AM
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It would be too late for us to dump what we have today since they have already dumped, once we do it today and the price goes up without dipping a below our selling price it would mean we will be forced to buy back higher price. That is just priceless example of buy high sell low scenario, the last time it went $300 should have been your best opportunity but today I'm not doing it.

those who have a lot of capital will rule the market.
however the price will continue to rise whether it is manipulated or not, because eth use every year will continue to increase.
this is a picture from year to year since eth release.
Rather than rule and i would like to call that as manipulating the market since a big capital means a lot of resources for the whale to do anything to the market. We have seen so many stories about the whales are manipulating the market even create a big dump instantly. that is the worst case that can happen with ethereum. But when so many pressures have come and that will not help the price.

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December 27, 2019, 11:36:59 AM
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Ethereum is a sleeping Giant in my opinion, because even after hard times ethereum stands strong serving as the leader to the altcoins. It is the only altcoin that stood high against bitcoin in terms of competence on the dominance. As of now ethereum seems sleeping, because years back itself the price is predicted to grow but scenario isn't supportive. Probably the upcoming year will give good growth for ethereum.
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December 27, 2019, 01:30:35 PM
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When viewed from the circumstances that op provided, I conclude that ethereum is just a sleeping giant who is going through a difficult period for several reasons.
Update 2.0 that does not come and the time is unclear could be a scourge for some people to drop the trust of believers.
negative issues will always exist in this crypto world not only in ethereum. What is clear as long as the developer is still there and develop their coins, I think there is hope.
if the ETH 2.0 update isn’t released on time, then again we will see a long drop in Ethereum price... it will be even sadder than last year. if this will happens again there is a chance that we will see Ethereum for $ 30, which will be very dangerous for its existence in this market. I think that Vitalik will do everything that is possible for the deadlines for the implementation of goals were saved

2.0 will be on time, but people seem to think it's right around the corner. It's not. There has to be a lot of time needed and care to ensure critical bugs don't happen. Rush it and you'll end up depreciating the price even more. Delay it, and you'll see something even better happen to it when it finally does get out fully mature and bug free.

$30 ETH? I'll be buying through my nose.

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Ethereum is a cryptocurrency. Lol.
Don't depend from what you have seen today but refer to what it gained before and its future. Ethereum is really down right now and anytime it may turn into a shitcoin. However, as long as it is developing and Vitalik accepts coin that will use ERC20 TOKEN, then ethereum will stay alive.



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December 27, 2019, 02:14:29 PM
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I’ve been into Bitcoin since 2014. It’s always been my main thing, however I’ll admit I got swept up in the 2017 cycle and got burned on quite a few projects. I eventually consolidated back to 100% bitcoin.

Now I find myself in a situation where I really believe in Ethereum as the only other viable project. I’ve been accumulating Ether to the point where now I’m 80% BTC, 10% Eth and, 10% USDC (prepared to buy more BTC when the time is right).

I’m preparing for Eth 2.0 staking. I see all the Defi projects built on Eth. The stablecoins, the ecosystem. If Eth fell, it would bring a huge chunk of the crypto market down with it. So for this reason, I can’t see ethereum really disappearing. It’s the only crypto that I’ve actually used (I bought something with USDC, an ERC-20 token).

That said, I am concerned about those stolen $100million in Eth. That can depress the value of Eth for years. I’m concerned about the constant hard forking, the constant delay of Eth 2.0, and the general amateurish feeling of the project. I hate that Vitalik, and the ethereum foundation dumped their bags on people at the ATH.

Part of me wants to just sell my Eth for BTC and not look back. Another part of me wants to keep buying Eth as it goes down.

Any intelligent insights on this forum? Not a pissing match, not a shitcoin shill session. Just honest feelings about Ethereum from other veterans in the space.

I came to the crypto market in mid-2017 and the first cryptocurrency I met was ETH. Next, I began to participate in cryptocurrency projects and accumulate ERC-20 tokens. I also had to study all the important points related specifically to the Ethereum platform, namely wallets, exchanges, how to determine the network load and choose the right gas. All this gave me the opportunity to get closer to ETH as much as possible and I consider this platform and this cryptocurrency the best for me and I hope that in the future ETH will show the best result.
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December 27, 2019, 03:23:21 PM
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I don't know about giving up on Ethereum at this point. It was too late when I heard Ethereum was sinking because of a recent hacking. Though it's a bummer that Ethereum is being dump, I'm just waiting for it to finish in order to buy some because I know that Ethereum would one day go pass beyond $150. At least we are yet given another opportunity by the dumpers to invest in some cheap Ethereum again.
The current situation of ethereum is very complex, it will surely not be a shitcoin, but the dark clouds on it make me think we are at risk. In order to save the situation, they should trans ETH 2.0 a little faster or make another innovation. Because this market does not move every coin to second place easily.
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December 27, 2019, 03:27:21 PM
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I don't know about giving up on Ethereum at this point. It was too late when I heard Ethereum was sinking because of a recent hacking. Though it's a bummer that Ethereum is being dump, I'm just waiting for it to finish in order to buy some because I know that Ethereum would one day go pass beyond $150. At least we are yet given another opportunity by the dumpers to invest in some cheap Ethereum again.
The current situation of ethereum is very complex, it will surely not be a shitcoin, but the dark clouds on it make me think we are at risk. In order to save the situation, they should trans ETH 2.0 a little faster or make another innovation. Because this market does not move every coin to second place easily.

You have a point dude in this kind of situation for ethereum it need to make faster for ethereum 2.0 or otherwise the price will continue to falling down but I believe on ethereum potential it will surely go back to high price sooner or later but right now Im still waiting for a positive news on ethereum 2.0.

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You have a point dude in this kind of situation for ethereum it need to make faster for ethereum 2.0 or otherwise the price will continue to falling down but I believe on ethereum potential it will surely go back to high price sooner or later but right now Im still waiting for a positive news on ethereum 2.0.
I see that such a monotonous discussion is being held regarding all cryptocurrencies, and not just regarding ethereum.  I do not think that we need to look at the current situation of the price of ethereum from the point of view of bad prospects in the future, because today the general state of the cryptocurrency market does not allow the cryptocurrency to rise up.  We must understand that the ethereum team is working on improving the ethereum and we see the results of their work in improving the technical characteristics of ETH, but full success will depend primarily on the demand for the coin on the market and on the activity of investors who will support ethereum.

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December 27, 2019, 04:46:35 PM
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Ethereum is a cryptocurrency. Lol.
Don't depend from what you have seen today but refer to what it gained before and its future. Ethereum is really down right now and anytime it may turn into a shitcoin. However, as long as it is developing and Vitalik accepts coin that will use ERC20 TOKEN, then ethereum will stay alive.

that why we prepare on eth 2.0 , its a progress of developing ETH , and OP ask is eth right now a sinking ship or sleeping giant, its a speculations or a prediction.

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I am not sure about ethereum future... Honestly I doubt that ETH will ever repeat its 2017 success. I would better consider investing in other altcoins and make a portfolio. But BTC will grow first and it's much more stable of course.

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December 31, 2019, 04:09:59 AM
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I always loved Ethereum & still do, i like it more than BTC itself.
Ethereum should be a $1000+ token, but this cryptosphere is just so weird,.
It's the best blockchain with the best Dapps out there, so sad to see it worth like $150 & may be even lower if this bear winter continues.
While the fundamentals of ethereum are amazing that does not really tell you when investors are going to wake up to the fact they have ignored the second best coin of the market for years, but instead of lamenting the situation of ethereum take advantage of it, while most people are going to wait until ethereum is worth 1000 dollars again to invest in it you can do while its price is below 150, even with a conservative prediction you could easily get 3x your money during the next years.
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December 31, 2019, 04:19:56 AM
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I am not sure about ethereum future... Honestly I doubt that ETH will ever repeat its 2017 success. I would better consider investing in other altcoins and make a portfolio. But BTC will grow first and it's much more stable of course.

ETH went up so much in 2017 because of the hype surrounding the ICOs. That was the single most factor, which enabled the Ethereum investors to receive a ROI of 120x in 2017. But now the ICO bubble has burst and the ETH prices are sliding down to what it was prior to the ICO boom. On top of that, the incompetence and arrogance of the Ethereum developers are not helping the coin either. The development timelines are getting pushed back, and the users are getting frustrated as a result of this.

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I’m preparing for Eth 2.0 staking. I see all the Defi projects built on Eth. The stablecoins, the ecosystem. If Eth fell, it would bring a huge chunk of the crypto market down with it. So for this reason, I can’t see ethereum really disappearing. It’s the only crypto that I’ve actually used (I bought something with USDC, an ERC-20 token).

First, I think if ETH fail it won't bring a huge chunk of the crypto market because those who are using their platform can easily migrate to another successful blockchain though I also see ETH going strong and not disappearing anytime soon.


That said, I am concerned about those stolen $100million in Eth. That can depress the value of Eth for years. I’m concerned about the constant hard forking, the constant delay of Eth 2.0, and the general amateurish feeling of the project. I hate that Vitalik, and the ethereum foundation dumped their bags on people at the ATH.

What done is done, we cannot do anything about it so do not stress yourself over this matter.  If you are hoping for ETH to recover, you have to believe on their developer.

Part of me wants to just sell my Eth for BTC and not look back. Another part of me wants to keep buying Eth as it goes down.

Any intelligent insights on this forum? Not a pissing match, not a shitcoin shill session. Just honest feelings about Ethereum from other veterans in the space.

If another part of you wanted to buy instead of just hodl and wait then I guess you still believe on the ETH developer.  There maybe delay on ETH upgrade but if it is done I guess all your waiting will not be in vain.  Bitcoin also suffers the same fate as ETH, its price goes down and yet to recover to its ATH.
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I’ve been into Bitcoin since 2014. It’s always been my main thing, however I’ll admit I got swept up in the 2017 cycle and got burned on quite a few projects. I eventually consolidated back to 100% bitcoin.

Now I find myself in a situation where I really believe in Ethereum as the only other viable project. I’ve been accumulating Ether to the point where now I’m 80% BTC, 10% Eth and, 10% USDC (prepared to buy more BTC when the time is right).

I’m preparing for Eth 2.0 staking. I see all the Defi projects built on Eth. The stablecoins, the ecosystem. If Eth fell, it would bring a huge chunk of the crypto market down with it. So for this reason, I can’t see ethereum really disappearing. It’s the only crypto that I’ve actually used (I bought something with USDC, an ERC-20 token).

That said, I am concerned about those stolen $100million in Eth. That can depress the value of Eth for years. I’m concerned about the constant hard forking, the constant delay of Eth 2.0, and the general amateurish feeling of the project. I hate that Vitalik, and the ethereum foundation dumped their bags on people at the ATH.

Part of me wants to just sell my Eth for BTC and not look back. Another part of me wants to keep buying Eth as it goes down.

Any intelligent insights on this forum? Not a pissing match, not a shitcoin shill session. Just honest feelings about Ethereum from other veterans in the space.

I seriously doubt that it's either one of those polar extremities that you present.

It's neither a "sleeping giant" or a "sinking ship" per se. But currently I do think that it is undervalued. Even so, though, you can barely say that it is a sleeping giant if it's already number 2 on the coin market cap list in terms of market capitalization.

I think that 2020 will present better market conditions for ICOs, most of which rely on the ETH platform which will likely drag ETH up with it.

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Ethereum rises and like this because of the smart contract factor they create, making the developers always use it and while the boom makes ETH rising as the project is successful in use. But on the other hand, they are the developers using it to be scammers behind the smart contract ETH and investors do not trust them anymore and make eth the more lonely interest. I know Ethereum is still no potential if the ecosystem can be in the Fox and I expect a lot on Ethereum 2.0

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With upcoming Ethereum 2.0 and possibility of staking I would bet on Ethereum. Still it is a giant with the biggest development team.
But it is hard to predict which blockchain will win the smart-contract fight in the future.

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I think I am more inclined on the latter part - eth as sleeping giant. Eth development team is still in continuous pursuit of making their ecosystem usable by many entities. And the good part in my opinion is that, Vitalik will not let his platform die for nothing. It is like his precious baby so I strongly believe that there are more good things coming for ethereum network.
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Who sold all of their Ethereum in late 2017, they did the right thing! Whoever held ETH to see when Ethereum price hit 2K USD, they, we were greedy! By seeing this year's movement, It seems Ethereum is sinking the ship! Ethereum is a giant coin, no doubt here but they really losing huge popularity! The hard fork couldn't save Ethereum, I don't feel Ethereum 2.0 network upgrade would do that! I am still holding Ethereum and waiting when Ethereum proves me wrong! ETH should gain a higher price with Bitcoin growth like before!

Bitcoin is gonna hit 100K usd
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December 31, 2019, 03:05:34 PM
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The problem of most young analysts is the orientation not on the general dynamics of the market, but on its short-term indicators. Ethereum is one of the founding projects in the crypto industry.
Thanks to it, ICOs so beloved earlier by all became possible. In addition, a huge community of developers allows projects to constantly improve and go to new levels.
The fact that the price of Ethereum has been growing for a long time is associated with the stagnation of the entire market, and not just Ethereum in particular.

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December 31, 2019, 03:56:41 PM
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$100M eth is a big deal if i must say but at the same time, i must confess that eth is a strong coin that has been able to stand the test of time. I don't think the stolen eth can stop me from investing in eth but i will just be smart about it.

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December 31, 2019, 04:37:19 PM
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Ethereum can pump again when the bear market has come. hopefully next year after bitcoin is reduced by half bitcoin can pump and make the altcoin market green again. I could only suggest you hold some ethereum while you can sell the other ethereum, and back to bitcoin to hold. I think ethereum has a chance to increase, especially if the next update is run better because people will see how good the next update. I think ETH is pretty good in the future, when Etherem 2.0 really works, we can wait for the price to be high and sell for profit, don't try to do Staking because Ethereum's team will soon be pushing the price down.

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December 31, 2019, 08:31:04 PM
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ETH is the king of Altcoin.
no ship sank, There are no sleeping giants. ETH follows the trend of the Bitcoin price if Bitcoin goes down ETH will also go down. Let's wait for some surprises that will be present in the market later, Especially for now the price of ETH is still too cheap, I make sure you all have some ETH for future investment.

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December 31, 2019, 09:52:57 PM
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ETH is the king of Altcoin.
no ship sank, There are no sleeping giants. ETH follows the trend of the Bitcoin price if Bitcoin goes down ETH will also go down. Let's wait for some surprises that will be present in the market later, Especially for now the price of ETH is still too cheap, I make sure you all have some ETH for future investment.
ETH does have potential and may make such an opinion come out because ETH is still trapped in the current price range and has not managed to grow in price. but if we see from its potential then I am also sure that ETH is still waiting for time, and if you are sure to invest then find the right time to start

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December 31, 2019, 10:07:27 PM
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It's not a sinking ship but it's no longer a sleeping giant. Let's admit it that we've expected much with ethereum but mostly it became a failure to most. I'm still have my last ethereums on hold and willing to wait until I can see the price becomes acceptable for me to sell.
ETH is the king of Altcoin.
no ship sank, There are no sleeping giants. ETH follows the trend of the Bitcoin price if Bitcoin goes down ETH will also go down. Let's wait for some surprises that will be present in the market later, Especially for now the price of ETH is still too cheap, I make sure you all have some ETH for future investment.
Turning into it and let events on 2020 be the one that will push the price of it higher.

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December 31, 2019, 10:37:48 PM
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It's not a sinking ship but it's no longer a sleeping giant. Let's admit it that we've expected much with ethereum but mostly it became a failure to most. I'm still have my last ethereums on hold and willing to wait until I can see the price becomes acceptable for me to sell.
ETH is the king of Altcoin.
no ship sank, There are no sleeping giants. ETH follows the trend of the Bitcoin price if Bitcoin goes down ETH will also go down. Let's wait for some surprises that will be present in the market later, Especially for now the price of ETH is still too cheap, I make sure you all have some ETH for future investment.
Turning into it and let events on 2020 be the one that will push the price of it higher.
I'm still optimistic that ETH could show its market dominance among altcoins. Yes, Ethereum is not a sleeping giant anymore but consider it a sinking ship if people will never risk their money for investment. The future of this certain is only in the hands of the investors but of course, the devs have had a big role for this in order to turn back its potentiality.
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December 31, 2019, 11:30:17 PM
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It's not a sinking ship but it's no longer a sleeping giant. Let's admit it that we've expected much with ethereum but mostly it became a failure to most. I'm still have my last ethereums on hold and willing to wait until I can see the price becomes acceptable for me to sell.
I'm still optimistic that ETH could show its market dominance among altcoins. Yes, Ethereum is not a sleeping giant anymore but consider it a sinking ship if people will never risk their money for investment. The future of this certain is only in the hands of the investors but of course, the devs have had a big role for this in order to turn back its potentiality.
Just like bitcoin, there are holders that are not willing to sell at any price. The developer that sold and plunged the price back to the current we have is desperate and is probably in need of money. We have no choice but to remain optimistic until we sell it at a satisfying price soon.
The future isn't just with the investors but it's more with the developers and how they'll show the development of it to us.

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January 01, 2020, 01:29:38 AM
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It's not a sinking ship but it's no longer a sleeping giant. Let's admit it that we've expected much with ethereum but mostly it became a failure to most. I'm still have my last ethereums on hold and willing to wait until I can see the price becomes acceptable for me to sell.
I'm still optimistic that ETH could show its market dominance among altcoins. Yes, Ethereum is not a sleeping giant anymore but consider it a sinking ship if people will never risk their money for investment. The future of this certain is only in the hands of the investors but of course, the devs have had a big role for this in order to turn back its potentiality.
Just like bitcoin, there are holders that are not willing to sell at any price. The developer that sold and plunged the price back to the current we have is desperate and is probably in need of money. We have no choice but to remain optimistic until we sell it at a satisfying price soon.
The future isn't just with the investors but it's more with the developers and how they'll show the development of it to us.
That is what matters at the end of the day. We should not care if the developers sold their ethereum at the peak price because maybe that is their way to secure their funding for the further developments. There is still a long road for ethereum to go through and that means there will be more developments as it will evolve into a giant cryptocurrency that could possible replace bitcoin in total market capitalization.

 
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January 01, 2020, 02:02:21 AM
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Ethereum have sleep well more than last two years with lower price, now have new year ethereum have been come back with higher price and forget with bad moment last two year to raise on higher price, always have second chance for getting profit with ethereum and halving time looks close hope can give positive side for ethereum back on their position again with higher price.
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January 01, 2020, 06:12:20 AM
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Ethereum have sleep well more than last two years with lower price, now have new year ethereum have been come back with higher price and forget with bad moment last two year to raise on higher price, always have second chance for getting profit with ethereum and halving time looks close hope can give positive side for ethereum back on their position again with higher price.
Some big names in the market are having different speculations but wondering that they are all optimistic about the possible growth of Ethereum.

https://coinswitch.co/news/ethereum-price-prediction-2020-2021-2022-2025-latest-eth-price-prediction-ethereum-news-update

They expect that the continuous growth/spread of Ethereum globally will help to push its price higher next year. I believe it was meant to happen but of course, this is all just speculation, nothing exactly will happen. But remembering that we reach to almost $1k, not wondering if this will happen again once we are in full recovery.



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January 01, 2020, 07:07:05 AM
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After Vitalik or ethereum owner sell his assets during 2018 make ethereum have lower price and hard get back what fantastic price in 2017 above $1,500, now we need Vitalik to back up his coin by buying back and re invest again with ethereum, without buy back and make new update progress like hard fork very difficult looking for ethereum have higher price again.
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Very many investors have high hopes for ETHEREUM, because ETH is considered as one of the most popular ALTCOIN and has very good potential. After reaching the peak of its glory in 2017, until now ETH has not shown any sign of reviving.
Some people still hope ETH is able to change the situation when eth 2.0 is launched, but if that doesn't happen, then Eth will continue to sleep and will even sink further.


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January 01, 2020, 07:37:59 AM
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Very many investors have high hopes for ETHEREUM, because ETH is considered as one of the most popular ALTCOIN and has very good potential. After reaching the peak of its glory in 2017, until now ETH has not shown any sign of reviving.
Some people still hope ETH is able to change the situation when eth 2.0 is launched, but if that doesn't happen, then Eth will continue to sleep and will even sink further.



Yes and sad to say that those high hopes lead the founder take it for granted, as he knew that people are aware that this last month will have a better price for Ethereum so many people bought it wishing something good news will happen that time, but sad to say that it didn't happen instead the founder itself have sold before people will.
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January 01, 2020, 08:25:43 AM
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If I were you, I would keep holding the dominating position of Bitcoin in portfolio, but I would buy Ethereum as well. In my opinion, ETH is a good option for diversification of the portfolio, so it is okay to keep 10% of funds in Ethereum.
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January 01, 2020, 08:58:41 AM
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Very many investors have high hopes for ETHEREUM, because ETH is considered as one of the most popular ALTCOIN and has very good potential. After reaching the peak of its glory in 2017, until now ETH has not shown any sign of reviving.
Some people still hope ETH is able to change the situation when eth 2.0 is launched, but if that doesn't happen, then Eth will continue to sleep and will even sink further.


Not only popular but eth is also in the rank 2 of the top crypto currency thats why there are many people still believe in it .all do the price continue declining after the ATH and never return back. The hope of the investors is still there but the question is if they can hold it  and how long  if theres another bear market come.

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January 01, 2020, 09:14:26 AM
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I’ve been into Bitcoin since 2014. It’s always been my main thing, however I’ll admit I got swept up in the 2017 cycle and got burned on quite a few projects. I eventually consolidated back to 100% bitcoin.

Now I find myself in a situation where I really believe in Ethereum as the only other viable project. I’ve been accumulating Ether to the point where now I’m 80% BTC, 10% Eth and, 10% USDC (prepared to buy more BTC when the time is right).

I’m preparing for Eth 2.0 staking. I see all the Defi projects built on Eth. The stablecoins, the ecosystem. If Eth fell, it would bring a huge chunk of the crypto market down with it. So for this reason, I can’t see ethereum really disappearing. It’s the only crypto that I’ve actually used (I bought something with USDC, an ERC-20 token).

That said, I am concerned about those stolen $100million in Eth. That can depress the value of Eth for years. I’m concerned about the constant hard forking, the constant delay of Eth 2.0, and the general amateurish feeling of the project. I hate that Vitalik, and the ethereum foundation dumped their bags on people at the ATH.

Part of me wants to just sell my Eth for BTC and not look back. Another part of me wants to keep buying Eth as it goes down.

Any intelligent insights on this forum? Not a pissing match, not a shitcoin shill session. Just honest feelings about Ethereum from other veterans in the space.

Actually 10% of Eth in your portfolio is still low, even some bad things are happening on Ethereum, we cannot take out the fact, that this is the first smart contract, transaction is fast and cheap and most of all so many tokens are relying on Ethereum smart contract, but of course, as a holder your analysis is the on thing that matters, whether to sell or to hodl.

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January 01, 2020, 09:23:11 AM
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I’ve been into Bitcoin since 2014. It’s always been my main thing, however I’ll admit I got swept up in the 2017 cycle and got burned on quite a few projects. I eventually consolidated back to 100% bitcoin.

Now I find myself in a situation where I really believe in Ethereum as the only other viable project. I’ve been accumulating Ether to the point where now I’m 80% BTC, 10% Eth and, 10% USDC (prepared to buy more BTC when the time is right).

I’m preparing for Eth 2.0 staking. I see all the Defi projects built on Eth. The stablecoins, the ecosystem. If Eth fell, it would bring a huge chunk of the crypto market down with it. So for this reason, I can’t see ethereum really disappearing. It’s the only crypto that I’ve actually used (I bought something with USDC, an ERC-20 token).

That said, I am concerned about those stolen $100million in Eth. That can depress the value of Eth for years. I’m concerned about the constant hard forking, the constant delay of Eth 2.0, and the general amateurish feeling of the project. I hate that Vitalik, and the ethereum foundation dumped their bags on people at the ATH.

Part of me wants to just sell my Eth for BTC and not look back. Another part of me wants to keep buying Eth as it goes down.

Any intelligent insights on this forum? Not a pissing match, not a shitcoin shill session. Just honest feelings about Ethereum from other veterans in the space.
The demand is on the investors so we can say that Ethereum is a is a sleeping giant even if the founders dump their holdings.

Just keep on buying as the market will surely recover and right now eth still in 2nd position, the risk in investing eth is not that high compared to other currencies.

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January 01, 2020, 10:15:54 AM
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Very many investors have high hopes for ETHEREUM, because ETH is considered as one of the most popular ALTCOIN and has very good potential. After reaching the peak of its glory in 2017, until now ETH has not shown any sign of reviving.
Some people still hope ETH is able to change the situation when eth 2.0 is launched, but if that doesn't happen, then Eth will continue to sleep and will even sink further.


Well, the data that you provide is not wrong, starting with the breakthrough in 2017, eth has created a special impression in the minds of many users, most investors always believe it can go further at that moment but the glory was short-lived, a series of bad news came, the market reversed and the effects on eth, ETH was unable to stand back after heavy falls regardless of the new updates. Nowadays, whether it was a sunken ship or saying it was a sleeping giant, every name fits its status, very sad for a miracle generation

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January 01, 2020, 10:22:51 AM
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After Vitalik or ethereum owner sell his assets during 2018 make ethereum have lower price and hard get back what fantastic price in 2017 above $1,500, now we need Vitalik to back up his coin by buying back and re invest again with ethereum, without buy back and make new update progress like hard fork very difficult looking for ethereum have higher price again.
thats the game changer on the part of ethereum, vitalik and his co founders just made a huge selling of ethereum. Im thinking now ethereum will drop even more and vitalik will be finding another or will create another project.

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January 01, 2020, 10:25:42 AM
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After Vitalik or ethereum owner sell his assets during 2018 make ethereum have lower price and hard get back what fantastic price in 2017 above $1,500, now we need Vitalik to back up his coin by buying back and re invest again with ethereum, without buy back and make new update progress like hard fork very difficult looking for ethereum have higher price again.
it's around 2017 and not 2018. When vitalik sold his asset and the price of ethereum touched the peak price and it's not even make the price go to the bottom. I just try to suggest you to see the chart before you can say something about that. Pleas you must understand it better dude.



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January 01, 2020, 11:04:39 AM
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but not many are serious. even most are junk coins. just look at how easy people make tokens with the ethereum blockchain and they can make their trash tokens with only very little capital. that's why ethereum is widely used as a tool to make junk tokens.
it all depends on how the developer resolves this problem. if you want investor confidence back then there must be something fixed. indirectly the junk tokens make trust in ETH also flawed.

In my opinion, trash tokens are not only found on the Eth platform, but other platforms also have lots of garbage tokens popping up. I think that strengthening regulations is really needed to suppress the emergence of the garbage token project and it cannot be avoided
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The highest ROI in cryptocurrency in 2019 was in altcoins, we see that in more altcoins. If anyone invested in these, I believe his opinion will be different with staying only with bitcoin. What is important is right investment and it is not easy, it demands a lot of research. The war with ethereum is baseless, if ethereum turns out well this year, majority of the money will move to bitcoin. asides bitcoin and USDT, Ethereum-bitcoin pair has made more volume they need in other in that space.
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January 01, 2020, 11:26:38 AM
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The highest ROI in cryptocurrency in 2019 was in altcoins, we see that in more altcoins. If anyone invested in these, I believe his opinion will be different with staying only with bitcoin. What is important is right investment and it is not easy, it demands a lot of research. The war with ethereum is baseless, if ethereum turns out well this year, majority of the money will move to bitcoin. asides bitcoin and USDT, Ethereum-bitcoin pair has made more volume they need in other in that space.
Of course we would see in that way considering that they do really differ in value and alts can possibly outperform btc in any angle when it comes to profit multiplier but basing up on having a established price and
community support then theres no doubt on btc. ETH wont anytime sink or goes down as we do consider there were lots of alts that been using up ETH platform thats why its hard to believe on
that this will drop down soon.

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January 02, 2020, 11:40:23 PM
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Just like bitcoin, there are holders that are not willing to sell at any price. The developer that sold and plunged the price back to the current we have is desperate and is probably in need of money. We have no choice but to remain optimistic until we sell it at a satisfying price soon.
The future isn't just with the investors but it's more with the developers and how they'll show the development of it to us.
That is what matters at the end of the day. We should not care if the developers sold their ethereum at the peak price because maybe that is their way to secure their funding for the further developments. There is still a long road for ethereum to go through and that means there will be more developments as it will evolve into a giant cryptocurrency that could possible replace bitcoin in total market capitalization.
I'm counting on it but I'm not that too positive as before with Ethereum after all of these disappointing news. I really don't feel good with those but it's okay, I still have it and if I'm a bit disappointed this might turn into positive thought as soon as we see the developments going on.
No matter what I feel, I'm still holding this although it's not a sleeping giant anymore but there's a development that's on process which we should lean on.

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January 02, 2020, 11:50:06 PM
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After Vitalik or ethereum owner sell his assets during 2018 make ethereum have lower price and hard get back what fantastic price in 2017 above $1,500, now we need Vitalik to back up his coin by buying back and re invest again with ethereum, without buy back and make new update progress like hard fork very difficult looking for ethereum have higher price again.
thats the game changer on the part of ethereum, vitalik and his co founders just made a huge selling of ethereum. Im thinking now ethereum will drop even more and vitalik will be finding another or will create another project.
They see the future of ETH might be on a drop level but selling their own coin is alarming. The price is dumping, but I think its just the effect of the market condition and let’s see what will happen after the update of ETH. If the updates fail, then they made a good decision to sell while the price is still high because fail updates will result to a bottom price.
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January 02, 2020, 11:54:09 PM
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Not only popular but eth is also in the rank 2 of the top crypto currency thats why there are many people still believe in it .all do the price continue declining after the ATH and never return back. The hope of the investors is still there but the question is if they can hold it  and how long  if theres another bear market come.
Price decline simply beause there's no demand anymore, a smart contract platform like ETH is to be expected to decline after IEO and ICO is dying. ETH is relying its capitalisation on that after all.even if the upgrade to ETH 2.0 with pos is released it won't do anything because this coin has now considered to have no utilization anymore. that's why more and more people are switching to another alts.

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January 05, 2020, 02:17:18 AM
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I am not sure about ethereum future... Honestly I doubt that ETH will ever repeat its 2017 success. I would better consider investing in other altcoins and make a portfolio. But BTC will grow first and it's much more stable of course.

ETH went up so much in 2017 because of the hype surrounding the ICOs. That was the single most factor, which enabled the Ethereum investors to receive a ROI of 120x in 2017. But now the ICO bubble has burst and the ETH prices are sliding down to what it was prior to the ICO boom. On top of that, the incompetence and arrogance of the Ethereum developers are not helping the coin either. The development timelines are getting pushed back, and the users are getting frustrated as a result of this.
It seems as if the ETH developers are trying to do too much too fast and that is never a good idea since this always leads to mistakes and since ETH is in such a weak position if someone finds a bug in the updates that ethereum wants to implement that could crash its price, so it is a good idea they are taking their time with the updates since it is difficult to know if ethereum will recover in the case such a mistake was made, but even after the updates I do not see ETH going up as much since as you say the interest in icos has decreased in an immense way.
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January 05, 2020, 03:24:06 AM
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Not only popular but eth is also in the rank 2 of the top crypto currency thats why there are many people still believe in it .all do the price continue declining after the ATH and never return back. The hope of the investors is still there but the question is if they can hold it  and how long  if theres another bear market come.
Price decline simply beause there's no demand anymore, a smart contract platform like ETH is to be expected to decline after IEO and ICO is dying. ETH is relying its capitalisation on that after all.even if the upgrade to ETH 2.0 with pos is released it won't do anything because this coin has now considered to have no utilization anymore. that's why more and more people are switching to another alts.

I dont think you see eth only as a tokenized platform. first of all ethereum is the number 1 dApp and many projects are relying on them. How do you think those projects become known. They all copy the eth smart contract even Binance so how the hell did eth suddenly will lose utilization. To be honest, this migration of eth is a strategy for them to improved their congested and scalability problem. So I think, your contradicting the facts that eth will probably one of the best project this year.

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I believe that Ethereum is not a sinking ship instead it is just a sleeping giant waiting for its time to rise up once again. It has already proven to us its capacity and capability to out grow its price way back 2017 when at the same time Bitcoin have experienced a price hike along with the other cryptocurrencies that exist within the crypto market. It is just maybe because the market is still down that we are seeing Ethereum's price is slowly falling but surely this 2020, we can see Ethereum as one of the potential Altcoins that will soon to rise up once again. I believe on what Ethereum can be so despite of the downfall, I still keep Ethereum into my list of potential assets in my wallet together with Bitcoin because I do hereby believe that like Bitcoin, Ethereum can also be a gigantic one that is waiting for its time to shine once again.

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I'm even surprised that the much anticipated ethereum 2.0 project may be shifted to subsequent year. Its quite difficult for me to give my verdict as to the issue of ethereum, but I have always believed that ethereum is a good project that would stand the test of time.
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The point to note here is that during the past few weeks, a number of Ethereum promoters have dumped their coins, using various exchanges. Now ask yourself. Why they are dumping their coins, if they are so confident about the future of ETH? Their behavior is suspicious and I would rate Ethereum as a sinking ship right now. After staying afloat for a while, its exchange rate against BTC has one again fallen to somewhere around BTC0.018 per coin. I expect it to go down even further, during the next few months.

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January 06, 2020, 04:13:37 AM
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Not only popular but eth is also in the rank 2 of the top crypto currency thats why there are many people still believe in it .all do the price continue declining after the ATH and never return back. The hope of the investors is still there but the question is if they can hold it  and how long  if theres another bear market come.
Price decline simply beause there's no demand anymore, a smart contract platform like ETH is to be expected to decline after IEO and ICO is dying. ETH is relying its capitalisation on that after all.even if the upgrade to ETH 2.0 with pos is released it won't do anything because this coin has now considered to have no utilization anymore. that's why more and more people are switching to another alts.
we wait eth eth innovation for hardfork this month, whether successful or delayed again, of course it will provide confidence for investors if eth fulfills its promise, at least a little hope until eth is not a sinking ship. Major changes occurred, after ICO switched to IEO


I dont think you see eth only as a tokenized platform. first of all ethereum is the number 1 dApp and many projects are relying on them. How do you think those projects become known. They all copy the eth smart contract even Binance so how the hell did eth suddenly will lose utilization. To be honest, this migration of eth is a strategy for them to improved their congested and scalability problem. So I think, your contradicting the facts that eth will probably one of the best project this year.

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January 06, 2020, 08:42:39 AM
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I would have said sleeping giant but the recent trend of developers selling off large amounts of Cryptocurrencies has me thinking twice, it's almost as if they have given up in the project, I can understand selling at ATH price although I can't understand why a developer would sell 90000 ETH at current low rates but it happened, and that is not even adding the $100m worth of ETH from plus token, let's just wait and see how it goes.
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January 10, 2020, 02:50:08 AM
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I believe that Ethereum is not a sinking ship instead it is just a sleeping giant waiting for its time to rise up once again. It has already proven to us its capacity and capability to out grow its price way back 2017 when at the same time Bitcoin have experienced a price hike along with the other cryptocurrencies that exist within the crypto market. It is just maybe because the market is still down that we are seeing Ethereum's price is slowly falling but surely this 2020, we can see Ethereum as one of the potential Altcoins that will soon to rise up once again. I believe on what Ethereum can be so despite of the downfall, I still keep Ethereum into my list of potential assets in my wallet together with Bitcoin because I do hereby believe that like Bitcoin, Ethereum can also be a gigantic one that is waiting for its time to shine once again.
If it is really a sleeping giant then it needs to wake up soon or when it tries to do so many will not care anymore about it, there are many competitors in the market and especially the binance coin has been doing great during the last years while the developers of ethereum just watch and let someone else become the platform in which most tokens get released, and if this does not change soon ethereum may even lose its position as the second most important coin in the market.
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January 12, 2020, 09:39:19 PM
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Bitcoin is king but ETH certainly can make up ground in the future.
Definitely consider continuing to hold ETH.
Most of the decentralized finance dApps and projects, about 90%, are running on the ethereum blockchain. Defi  (lending, staking, analytics, tokenization, oracles, DAO, DEXs) is in its infancy but it will continue to grow and increase ETH's prominence.  ETH's future looks bright and will give a higher multiple ROI than Bitcoin.
For an excellent review of DeFi and why ETH will be king in the future, see:

https://www.publish0x.com/cryptocurrency-insights/defi-best-class-2020-xyjxjm
(tip the author, he worked hard to compile the info  Wink )

So it is an easy choice,  go with ETH =  Sleeping giant.
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January 14, 2020, 04:30:04 PM
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It's not a sinking ship but it's no longer a sleeping giant. Let's admit it that we've expected much with ethereum but mostly it became a failure to most. I'm still have my last ethereums on hold and willing to wait until I can see the price becomes acceptable for me to sell.
I'm still optimistic that ETH could show its market dominance among altcoins. Yes, Ethereum is not a sleeping giant anymore but consider it a sinking ship if people will never risk their money for investment. The future of this certain is only in the hands of the investors but of course, the devs have had a big role for this in order to turn back its potentiality.
Just like bitcoin, there are holders that are not willing to sell at any price. The developer that sold and plunged the price back to the current we have is desperate and is probably in need of money. We have no choice but to remain optimistic until we sell it at a satisfying price soon.
The future isn't just with the investors but it's more with the developers and how they'll show the development of it to us.
Developers must be able to show what developments or updates they will make in order to attract investors to invest in it or be able to encourage many people to start buying coins and also for investors if the project is good, they will start investing and hope that it will can provide benefits and hope that the developer can give what is best to develop the project.

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January 14, 2020, 04:32:50 PM
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It's not a sinking ship but it's no longer a sleeping giant. Let's admit it that we've expected much with ethereum but mostly it became a failure to most. I'm still have my last ethereums on hold and willing to wait until I can see the price becomes acceptable for me to sell.
I'm still optimistic that ETH could show its market dominance among altcoins. Yes, Ethereum is not a sleeping giant anymore but consider it a sinking ship if people will never risk their money for investment. The future of this certain is only in the hands of the investors but of course, the devs have had a big role for this in order to turn back its potentiality.
Just like bitcoin, there are holders that are not willing to sell at any price. The developer that sold and plunged the price back to the current we have is desperate and is probably in need of money. We have no choice but to remain optimistic until we sell it at a satisfying price soon.
The future isn't just with the investors but it's more with the developers and how they'll show the development of it to us.
Developers must be able to show what developments or updates they will make in order to attract investors to invest in it or be able to encourage many people to start buying coins and also for investors if the project is good, they will start investing and hope that it will can provide benefits and hope that the developer can give what is best to develop the project.

The develops have done the latest updates and it has already showed to the holders but to be done all of the updates need the time. Ethereum is a large scale blockchain protocol which widely used and that makes ethereum consumes more time to make it happen. I just suggest you to watch all of the articles about the ethereum updates again.

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January 14, 2020, 04:43:23 PM
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I could only suggest holding some ethereum while selling the other ethereum and holding back to bitcoin. I think ethereum has an opportunity to grow, especially if the next update is running better as people will see how good the next update is. But if the next update isn't what they're looking for, ethereum will need much longer time to get back up. It will be up to you to hold some ethereum and sell it or hold all ethereum until the next release of the update. I believe it has a lot of potential to make people profit
actually ethereum is still one of the potential coins, but at this time the potential is probably not very profitable. so maybe for the time being investing a small amount can be utilized but we can make these investments in stages and have to be careful and also we can wait until the ethereum 2.0 update first to see its development.

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January 14, 2020, 05:08:18 PM
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Bitcoin is king but ETH certainly can make up ground in the future.
Definitely consider continuing to hold ETH.
Most of the decentralized finance dApps and projects, about 90%, are running on the ethereum blockchain. Defi  (lending, staking, analytics, tokenization, oracles, DAO, DEXs) is in its infancy but it will continue to grow and increase ETH's prominence.  ETH's future looks bright and will give a higher multiple ROI than Bitcoin.
For an excellent review of DeFi and why ETH will be king in the future, see:

https://www.publish0x.com/cryptocurrency-insights/defi-best-class-2020-xyjxjm
(tip the author, he worked hard to compile the info  Wink )

So it is an easy choice,  go with ETH =  Sleeping giant.

I agree with you, EThereum plays an important role and I consider it a sleeping giant too. So much project are in Ethereum already from their Dapps, Defi, etc.  Thanks also for the resources given, this will also build confidence to other Holder, very promising for Eth ahead indeed.

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January 14, 2020, 05:29:21 PM
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I honestly don't hesitate to say that ethereum is a giant altcoin that is sleeping. I personally am very confident with this altcoin, on the other hand I also will not hesitate to add some more Eth if I have capital. and I think some of the investors out there also have the same thoughts about the potential of ethereum for future investment.
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January 14, 2020, 05:34:59 PM
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I honestly don't hesitate to say that ethereum is a giant altcoin that is sleeping. I personally am very confident with this altcoin, on the other hand I also will not hesitate to add some more Eth if I have capital. and I think some of the investors out there also have the same thoughts about the potential of ethereum for future investment.
Quite right, but it seems to me that today it is Ethereum that shows the best scale of growth in its price in the entire cryptocurrency market, and these figures are even higher than bitcoin.  I believe that eth has really great potential due to its technical characteristics, in addition, the team brings a lot of ideas to life, which attracts the attention of investors and potential users.

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January 14, 2020, 05:59:22 PM
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Bitcoin is king but ETH certainly can make up ground in the future.
Definitely consider continuing to hold ETH.
Most of the decentralized finance dApps and projects, about 90%, are running on the ethereum blockchain. Defi  (lending, staking, analytics, tokenization, oracles, DAO, DEXs) is in its infancy but it will continue to grow and increase ETH's prominence.  ETH's future looks bright and will give a higher multiple ROI than Bitcoin.
For an excellent review of DeFi and why ETH will be king in the future, see:

https://www.publish0x.com/cryptocurrency-insights/defi-best-class-2020-xyjxjm
(tip the author, he worked hard to compile the info  Wink )

So it is an easy choice,  go with ETH =  Sleeping giant.

I really like the fact that you recogn ETH as a giant altcoin project, but I don't think up to 90 percent of DAPPS and projects as stated are built on Ethereum blockchain. TRON and EOS also constitute a considerable percentage of the overral. That said, I'm holding a bag of ETH, now it's almost 25 percent of my entire portfolio, 70 percent for the king (BTC) ofcourse.
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January 14, 2020, 07:10:08 PM
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You have been following cryptocurrencies for many years so it must be a very experienced and successful person in this market. Please share with us more, thank you very much. In your opinion, is Bitcoin your favorite thing?
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January 14, 2020, 07:26:26 PM
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Ethereum is really reliable. your accumulation of Ether to the point where I now 80% BTC, 10% Eth and, 10% USDC I find very reasonable in the current situation. Congratulations in advance.
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January 14, 2020, 07:36:41 PM
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in my opinion for ETH 2.0 there will be an increase in the potential and development of the technology, one of the first features to be introduced is proof-of-stake, and hopefully it will bring great changes to ETH going forward.
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January 14, 2020, 07:44:41 PM
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You should think twice about selling your Eth for BTC. It may not be very good at the moment, but it will be a great opportunity for you shortly. Just buy Eth I'm also buying Eth left a lot
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January 14, 2020, 08:18:40 PM
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in my opinion for ETH 2.0 there will be an increase in the potential and development of the technology, one of the first features to be introduced is proof-of-stake, and hopefully it will bring great changes to ETH going forward.
proof-of-stake goes back to 2012-08-19 (genesis of first pos coin).
If it sinks or becomes a giant depends on scaling, without it it sinks, with or without pos

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January 14, 2020, 10:45:19 PM
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Keeping 10% of your assets in ETH is not a bad idea. I think ETH may be unreliable at the moment since the owner dumped the price however, there are so many projects using its blockchain today and it may just be around for a while. My problem is that most of the projects using Eth blockchain are not doing well and many more have already exit scammed

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January 15, 2020, 02:03:06 AM
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I honestly don't hesitate to say that ethereum is a giant altcoin that is sleeping. I personally am very confident with this altcoin, on the other hand I also will not hesitate to add some more Eth if I have capital. and I think some of the investors out there also have the same thoughts about the potential of ethereum for future investment.
Ethereum has experimented a significant growth during the last days but we still do not know if this is the beginning of something bigger or just a temporary correction, I really hope that this is the beginning of something big and that ethereum at least gets back to a price above 500 dollars, if ethereum is able to do that it is going to show to the world that it is still a coin that should be taken seriously and if you do not do that then you are probably going to miss on some easy profits.
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January 15, 2020, 02:11:42 AM
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Keeping 10% of your assets in ETH is not a bad idea. I think ETH may be unreliable at the moment since the owner dumped the price however, there are so many projects using its blockchain today and it may just be around for a while. My problem is that most of the projects using Eth blockchain are not doing well and many more have already exit scammed
well, save ethereum with the amount of 10% of all the assets you have is good, I can say that's because ethereum has the potential to rise when the price of bitcoin experiences price increases like this then the price of all cryptocurrency will go up, so there is no harm if saving ethereum and the remaining 90% of capital you can use to trade on bitcoin or other coins that are rising sharply at the exchange place.

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Has any one checked the market share of Ethereum lately? Ethereum now accounts for just 7% of all the cryptocurrency market capitalization (compared to 31% in June 2017). The trends indicate that this share may further go down and there is a real threat of ETH losing its position as the no.2 cryptocurrency. The developers are also not helping. They are postponing timelines again and again and as a result the users have lost their confidence in Ethereum. The perfect example is that of Ethereum 2.0. No one really knows when it will be rolled out.

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The perfect example is that of Ethereum 2.0. No one really knows when it will be rolled out.
The initial story was that there will be a total of 92,000,000 Ether when the ICO happened and people invested.
60 million - Pre-sale, 12 million - dev fund and ~18 million mined - 1 million coins mined per month for 18 months prior to going from POW to POS.

It is developing to a total farce, 18 months long gone, total supply no longer anywhere near accurate, majority of tokens outright scams, devs dont seem to care about scaling or implementing promisses

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Has any one checked the market share of Ethereum lately? Ethereum now accounts for just 7% of all the cryptocurrency market capitalization (compared to 31% in June 2017). The trends indicate that this share may further go down and there is a real threat of ETH losing its position as the no.2 cryptocurrency. The developers are also not helping. They are postponing timelines again and again and as a result the users have lost their confidence in Ethereum. The perfect example is that of Ethereum 2.0. No one really knows when it will be rolled out.
ETH just get old real quick, their whole market is built up from the hype of smart contract back then and right now it's still a thing because they are popular enough to make almost all exchanges accept them thus giving broader chance of garnering the capitals though it's now slowly sinking.
Delay in ETH 2.0 will just spell their downfall and increase the lingering doubt among the community whether this coin is still worth it or not.

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Has any one checked the market share of Ethereum lately? Ethereum now accounts for just 7% of all the cryptocurrency market capitalization (compared to 31% in June 2017). The trends indicate that this share may further go down and there is a real threat of ETH losing its position as the no.2 cryptocurrency. The developers are also not helping. They are postponing timelines again and again and as a result the users have lost their confidence in Ethereum. The perfect example is that of Ethereum 2.0. No one really knows when it will be rolled out.
ETH just get old real quick, their whole market is built up from the hype of smart contract back then and right now it's still a thing because they are popular enough to make almost all exchanges accept them thus giving broader chance of garnering the capitals though it's now slowly sinking.
Delay in ETH 2.0 will just spell their downfall and increase the lingering doubt among the community whether this coin is still worth it or not.
Delay might be negative but that would only make the price to go down and give us the opportunity to buy cheaper again.
Look at BSV now, people were thinking that CSW is fake but BSV just made a new ATH in just 24 hours.

This means we can never tell, as long as the project stays, they could rise anytime.

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You should think twice about selling your Eth for BTC. It may not be very good at the moment, but it will be a great opportunity for you shortly. Just buy Eth I'm also buying Eth left a lot
It would be better to buy both ETH and BTC and some other top altcoins that are experiencing a very good price increase, and this provides a good opportunity for anyone who holds it at this time.
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discarding ETH now will only make me lose, because I've been saving it since 2017 when the ICO trend. I have already entered, so I have also added more ETHs to my bag in 2019, with the aim of getting more ETH to patch up leaks in 2017. I hope the developer will soon realize Ethereum 2.0, and hopefully this can restore investor confidence in it. thus, the hope of a large pump may still occur.
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Eth is a good invest by the way, taking advantage of price loss is the best move presently, if you are in for long term hold then don't bother selling your ETH, remember that the 2.0 upgrade is around the corner, it should feel more safer holding both btc and eth don't you think?

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Has any one checked the market share of Ethereum lately? Ethereum now accounts for just 7% of all the cryptocurrency market capitalization (compared to 31% in June 2017). The trends indicate that this share may further go down and there is a real threat of ETH losing its position as the no.2 cryptocurrency. The developers are also not helping. They are postponing timelines again and again and as a result the users have lost their confidence in Ethereum. The perfect example is that of Ethereum 2.0. No one really knows when it will be rolled out.
ETH just get old real quick, their whole market is built up from the hype of smart contract back then and right now it's still a thing because they are popular enough to make almost all exchanges accept them thus giving broader chance of garnering the capitals though it's now slowly sinking.
Delay in ETH 2.0 will just spell their downfall and increase the lingering doubt among the community whether this coin is still worth it or not.
Delay might be negative but that would only make the price to go down and give us the opportunity to buy cheaper again.
Look at BSV now, people were thinking that CSW is fake but BSV just made a new ATH in just 24 hours.

This means we can never tell, as long as the project stays, they could rise anytime.
Anything can happen, but if ethereum needs something similar to what happened to BSV to go up in price then ethereum is really done, it needs to go up because its developers are working hard to improve their coin but many investors are seeing the opposite, it is as if they do not care and all the excitement that at the beginning ethereum generated seems to be gone and it is difficult to tell if things are going to change after so much time in which the coin has remained almost static.
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January 19, 2020, 04:03:18 AM
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The current price of the ethereum is on the dump state. But I am hoping that it is just sleeping and preparing itself to have a bull run like what will happen on bitcoin. For sure when the price of bitcoin rises up, the other coins including ethereum will increase its price also since they are dependent on the market movement of bitcoin.

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You should think twice about selling your Eth for BTC. It may not be very good at the moment, but it will be a great opportunity for you shortly. Just buy Eth I'm also buying Eth left a lot

Bitcoin and Eth should not be an issue at all, they are worthy to be in anyone's portfolios, it's a very bad decision to sell one and buy the other, keep both coins, diversification is always a good decision, don't listen to FUDS or shills, look at what happen to Bitcoin SV everybody though Bitcoin SV will get pass Ethereum, look at the market now, Eth still is on top.

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The current price of the ethereum is on the dump state. But I am hoping that it is just sleeping and preparing itself to have a bull run like what will happen on bitcoin. For sure when the price of bitcoin rises up, the other coins including ethereum will increase its price also since they are dependent on the market movement of bitcoin.

Ethereum at this moment is priced at $176.07, not bad for its price before which is relatively lower than today. In addition, it is not just Ethereum not getting the momentum but most of the cryptos are getting bullish as they follow the step bitcoin is taking into. But what is evident to the market right now is that, most of the investment cryptocurrency is getting huge in value, compared to those that are potential crypto for daily transactions such as stable coins USDT, Tether  and more.
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The current price of the ethereum is on the dump state. But I am hoping that it is just sleeping and preparing itself to have a bull run like what will happen on bitcoin. For sure when the price of bitcoin rises up, the other coins including ethereum will increase its price also since they are dependent on the market movement of bitcoin.


Don't forget Ethereum was once trailing around $60 and now it has almost increased by three folds, there is more to come and IO think Ethereum will definitely rise to a new level as the value of bitcoin has already started to increase and as per my knowledge once Ethereum's value is increased it does not need any support from bitcoin for atleast 3 months, just take the first quarter of 2018 for example.

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Why is everyone divided into two camps regarding ethereum? Someone worships him, someone bury him. Very strange. I always stuck to the position, if they are talking about something, both good and bad, then this is something worthwhile. Because it is impossible to please everyone, but it is possible to hook everyone, this is exactly what Ethereum did. Everyone speaks of him, although he has been the second coin for many years, but conversations have begun quite recently.
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If we look the situation right now we can say that ETH is like a sleeping giant because all we see that bitcoin is already recovering it's good price so based on past experienced if the price value of bitcoin is increasing,on the other side eth's price will decrease so practically you can sell your eth to invest in bitcoin.
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You cannot blame Vitalik and his team selling at all time high, they need funds as well to continue development of the project itself. As you have said, ethereum is already a main factor on the crypto market so it will not go dump without very huge reasons like they cant transition their network to POS. But as for me, I still believe in ethereum that they will continue to impress people in the coming years, ethereum keeps on building they never stop.
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I am more likely to consider ethereum a sleeping giant than a sinking ship. Soon we should see another improvement of this coin called Ethereum 2.0. If they are successful, then the sleeping giant may wake up.
Ethereum has been falling in price, like all altcoins, and, in addition, has lost popularity due to the falling popularity of ICO projects. However, it will still change.
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I think seeing ETH as a sinking ship or a sleeping giant depends on many factors.  The first thing is that the steady growth of the market will bring a growth for ETH.  Regarding the technology and promised improvements of ETH, it is necessary to convert working evidence from Prof of Word to Prof of stake and limit the amount of ETH provided to ETH.  With the current announcement, the total supply of ETH is limitless.  It is these issues that have not brought ETH price increases recently.
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I am more likely to consider ethereum a sleeping giant than a sinking ship.
Indeed, even if there is a survey taken , majority would say that it's a sleeping giant.

Soon we should see another improvement of this coin called Ethereum 2.0. If they are successful, then the sleeping giant may wake up.
Ethereum has been falling in price, like all altcoins, and, in addition, has lost popularity due to the falling popularity of ICO projects. However, it will still change.
That would certainly bring boost to the price of ETH, it's possible to rise $1,000 if the pump is real, like BSV, hype could possibly happen as people think of a bull market, actually we have a great start this year, so it's not impossible that ETH will rise as the market stays bullish.

let's say 500 usd is achievable this year, that would already bring a good percentage of profit.

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For me, ETH is a sleeping giant. Like what OP said about ETH 2.0. I think i can hold it longer until that time come. Like halving, i think 2.0 will bring ETH on next level, although not reach it's last ATH i think ETH can be pumped too in future.

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I could only suggest holding some ethereum while selling the other ethereum and holding back to bitcoin. I think ethereum has an opportunity to grow, especially if the next update is running better as people will see how good the next update is. But if the next update isn't what they're looking for, ethereum will need much longer time to get back up. It will be up to you to hold some ethereum and sell it or hold all ethereum until the next release of the update. I believe it has a lot of potential to make people profit

 
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For some reason or another, either dont care or not capable of the defs seem to have lost control.
The move to pos suppose to a long long time ago, new day new promise.
Inflation still out of control, the initial sales pitch was that there will be 92 million in total
Scaling is a lot of talk and promises but no action to see.
One project fail after another ‘Homestead’, ‘Metropolis’, ‘Serenity’
That sleeping giant its on its dead bed, the creator already sold some to organize procession.

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For me, ETH is a sleeping giant. Like what OP said about ETH 2.0. I think i can hold it longer until that time come. Like halving, i think 2.0 will bring ETH on next level, although not reach it's last ATH i think ETH can be pumped too in future.
The delay slowly decays all the hype though. I remembered when the announcement of ETH 2.0 everyone got so pumped but now it's rarely discussed. It seems the devs can't take advantage of the right momentum but instead keep delaying. Not that I'm complaining and to be honest I'm not a die hard fan of ETH but the lacks of progress is really such unfortunate thing.

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January 20, 2020, 05:34:49 AM
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its not a sinking ship nor a sleeping giant
last time i checked it was awaken giant that in the second place by market cap
it will go higher but not as much as it already did
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January 20, 2020, 09:58:14 AM
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its not a sinking ship nor a sleeping giant
last time i checked it was awaken giant that in the second place by market cap
it will go higher but not as much as it already did

All are still speculating and there's no assurance whether it will pumped high after this year or it will remain at this level.
Depends from how the market will push thru no one can exactly answer this question as even the developers can't push
investors and supporters to buy and hold their coin,.
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January 20, 2020, 10:42:41 AM
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I believe and feel that ETH will be giant, better than BTC, of course I have doubts and want to buy BTC because it more stable, but believe ETH will show us big growth - thats my opinion!
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January 20, 2020, 02:38:30 PM
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For me, ETH is a sleeping giant. Like what OP said about ETH 2.0. I think i can hold it longer until that time come. Like halving, i think 2.0 will bring ETH on next level, although not reach it's last ATH i think ETH can be pumped too in future.
The delay slowly decays all the hype though. I remembered when the announcement of ETH 2.0 everyone got so pumped but now it's rarely discussed. It seems the devs can't take advantage of the right momentum but instead keep delaying. Not that I'm complaining and to be honest I'm not a die hard fan of ETH but the lacks of progress is really such unfortunate thing.
You are right, but for me who only rely on news don't have any choice beside to believe it can make ETH pumped. Maybe it will almost like bitcoin with halving which make me believe bitcoin pumped too. And both of that coin i will hold longer.

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January 20, 2020, 03:09:11 PM
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I believe and feel that ETH will be giant, better than BTC, of course I have doubts and want to buy BTC because it more stable, but believe ETH will show us big growth - thats my opinion!
for a large growth, of course, it will happen. we have waited a very long time and now I think is the beginning of that growth to occur. but as you said, to be better than bitcoin I don't think that's possible.
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January 24, 2020, 05:01:04 AM
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The current price of the ethereum is on the dump state. But I am hoping that it is just sleeping and preparing itself to have a bull run like what will happen on bitcoin. For sure when the price of bitcoin rises up, the other coins including ethereum will increase its price also since they are dependent on the market movement of bitcoin.
Just to be clear if ethereum is going to depend on bitcoin skyrocketing to go up in value then it is never going to grow up as everyone is expecting, ethereum needs to begin to move independently or it is never going to reach its all time high again, but since 2017 this has not been the case and people are starting to doubt if this is ever going to happen again and even if it does it will not matter if you are not holding any ethereum at that time.
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January 24, 2020, 05:47:09 AM
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right now, I feel what you feel. I want to sell the ETH I have for bitcoin, but on the other hand I want to buy the ETH and multiply it. to be honest, the development of ETH is not so great for now, but when the price of bitcoin goes up, the price of ETH - BTC also goes up, even, when the price goes up above $ 500 it is already extraordinary. it's just that, until now there has been no sign for it, even for ETH 2.0. we really cannot blame vitalik in this matter, because the development for ETH is based on demand and needs.
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Ethereum has never been called a sinking ship, it will only become once people are abandoning the chain and projects are moving to another chain, but it's not the case so far, they may be quiet right now, and that includes the price but not for long, they are still on target once Ethereum POS start moving things are going to change.

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January 24, 2020, 06:00:17 AM
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For me, ETH is a sleeping giant. Like what OP said about ETH 2.0. I think i can hold it longer until that time come. Like halving, i think 2.0 will bring ETH on next level, although not reach it's last ATH i think ETH can be pumped too in future.
The delay slowly decays all the hype though. I remembered when the announcement of ETH 2.0 everyone got so pumped but now it's rarely discussed. It seems the devs can't take advantage of the right momentum but instead keep delaying. Not that I'm complaining and to be honest I'm not a die hard fan of ETH but the lacks of progress is really such unfortunate thing.
You are right, but for me who only rely on news don't have any choice beside to believe it can make ETH pumped. Maybe it will almost like bitcoin with halving which make me believe bitcoin pumped too. And both of that coin i will hold longer.
I don't think that ETH is a sinking ship because as you can see in the market almost all crypto is experiencing downfall right now but when we think on a good side, just look on how ETH survived and even making itself good whether the market is not good as of now. That is because of its famousness and its platform making every investor profitable. Maybe halving is a good idea but ETH is different from bitcoin.

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January 24, 2020, 09:28:44 AM
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Personally, I believe that Ethereum is currently the most promising coin of 2020. And while Ethereum is in sleep mode, it is possible to buy at a very competitive price. And according to analysts this year, Ethereum should surprise us. So there is a high probability that Ethereum will repeat the year 2017 and become even more expensive.
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Ethereum has never been called a sinking ship, it will only become once people are abandoning the chain and projects are moving to another chain, but it's not the case so far, they may be quiet right now, and that includes the price but not for long, they are still on target once Ethereum POS start moving things are going to change.
The only reason why I continue to believe in ETH is a successful update that took place at the beginning of this year. All 2019 I was sure that this project could not continue to exist and I was waiting for an update. The update was successful and they did not move the deadlines, that's why I did not sell all of my ETH immediately.


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January 24, 2020, 10:26:04 AM
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Ethereum has never been called a sinking ship, it will only become once people are abandoning the chain and projects are moving to another chain, but it's not the case so far, they may be quiet right now, and that includes the price but not for long, they are still on target once Ethereum POS start moving things are going to change.

Actually it has been called such a few times by a few people. If people have said Bitcoin can die, surely people will also say the same about ETH;) In fact, even when people talked about the ETH flippening I was still thinking this wouldn't last, but in the end I saw it had potential and gave in. (I bet ETC people said it would sink in 2016).

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January 24, 2020, 11:10:16 AM
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The current price of the ethereum is on the dump state. But I am hoping that it is just sleeping and preparing itself to have a bull run like what will happen on bitcoin. For sure when the price of bitcoin rises up, the other coins including ethereum will increase its price also since they are dependent on the market movement of bitcoin.
Just to be clear if ethereum is going to depend on bitcoin skyrocketing to go up in value then it is never going to grow up as everyone is expecting, ethereum needs to begin to move independently or it is never going to reach its all time high again, but since 2017 this has not been the case and people are starting to doubt if this is ever going to happen again and even if it does it will not matter if you are not holding any ethereum at that time.
If we look at 2018 and 2019, ETH does not really provide results or provide benefits for those who hold the coin or it can be said that in that year we often see price reductions that occur which then make investors will certainly prefer to stay afloat or holding the coin and this is normal. Maybe this time it takes a factor that can drive the rising price of altcoin.
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January 24, 2020, 12:31:28 PM
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Ethereum has never been called a sinking ship, it will only become once people are abandoning the chain and projects are moving to another chain, but it's not the case so far, they may be quiet right now, and that includes the price but not for long, they are still on target once Ethereum POS start moving things are going to change.
The only reason why I continue to believe in ETH is a successful update that took place at the beginning of this year. All 2019 I was sure that this project could not continue to exist and I was waiting for an update. The update was successful and they did not move the deadlines, that's why I did not sell all of my ETH immediately.
Well, maybe your only reason is a common reason for ethereum holders up to this point, if ethereum and the media don't give this event, perhaps we have abandoned ethereum long ago because patience is not always infinite, it can only stop at a certain level, in the past, ethereum has gained a lot of trust from people but over the years, it has used nearly all of that belief and hasn't created anything new. This event is probably the last to determine ethereum's next path, hopefully ethereum won't keep quiet as nearby tiny people are starting to grow and come close to it

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As Ethereum marked the third anniversary of its genesis block on July 30th, has it made enough progress to ward off upstart challengers like EOS or Hashgraph, or just created a platform for them to leapfrog into the next generation of blockchain? So Ethereum good move slowly slowl.   
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As Ethereum marked the third anniversary of its genesis block on July 30th, has it made enough progress to ward off upstart challengers like EOS or Hashgraph, or just created a platform for them to leapfrog into the next generation of blockchain? So Ethereum good move slowly slowl.   
Too slow thay if they failed to make it good it will be worste investment for investors. Ethereum platform is good idea no doubt about it but the problem is the people using the platform . If vitalik cant control many tokens created using thier platform it will end nothing and it will lose interest of neq potential investors that is serious about thier investment.

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January 25, 2020, 04:14:24 AM
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Any intelligent insights on this forum? Not a pissing match, not a shitcoin shill session. Just honest feelings about Ethereum from other veterans in the space.
I wouldn't call it an intelligent insight but I was skeptical of alts, including ETH in 2019. After seeing how they still make crazy movement during this month, I'm eager to believe that some major alts like ETH does have a future in crypto. Especially looking at its development.

I'm not sure how the market will react to ETH going full PoS, maybe it is already priced in but I doubt so, anyway I like the spirit behind it, to stop wasting energy. I hope the development of Casper will be done within a year or two, this could give ETH a massive boost.
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As Ethereum marked the third anniversary of its genesis block on July 30th, has it made enough progress to ward off upstart challengers like EOS or Hashgraph, or just created a platform for them to leapfrog into the next generation of blockchain? So Ethereum good move slowly slowl.   
Too slow thay if they failed to make it good it will be worste investment for investors. Ethereum platform is good idea no doubt about it but the problem is the people using the platform . If vitalik cant control many tokens created using thier platform it will end nothing and it will lose interest of neq potential investors that is serious about thier investment.
there are many Scam projects that make Ethereum a home, and this makes Ethereum's image worsen, I strongly agree if Vitalik makes regulations to prevent many scam projects, if it is done I am sure that ethereum will slowly recover
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I’ve been into Bitcoin since 2014. It’s always been my main thing, however I’ll admit I got swept up in the 2017 cycle and got burned on quite a few projects. I eventually consolidated back to 100% bitcoin.

Now I find myself in a situation where I really believe in Ethereum as the only other viable project. I’ve been accumulating Ether to the point where now I’m 80% BTC, 10% Eth and, 10% USDC (prepared to buy more BTC when the time is right).

I’m preparing for Eth 2.0 staking. I see all the Defi projects built on Eth. The stablecoins, the ecosystem. If Eth fell, it would bring a huge chunk of the crypto market down with it. So for this reason, I can’t see ethereum really disappearing. It’s the only crypto that I’ve actually used (I bought something with USDC, an ERC-20 token).

That said, I am concerned about those stolen $100million in Eth. That can depress the value of Eth for years. I’m concerned about the constant hard forking, the constant delay of Eth 2.0, and the general amateurish feeling of the project. I hate that Vitalik, and the ethereum foundation dumped their bags on people at the ATH.

Part of me wants to just sell my Eth for BTC and not look back. Another part of me wants to keep buying Eth as it goes down.

Any intelligent insights on this forum? Not a pissing match, not a shitcoin shill session. Just honest feelings about Ethereum from other veterans in the space.
As of now, we cannot still confirm that Ethereum is totally falling down cause it looked like that way back but all of a sudden, it was able to regain its position from being next on bitcoin. You should take it as an opportunity while Ethereum's value si still low to buy lots of it and wait for the value to increase as bitcoin halving occurs. Let us all stay optimistic about Eth because it has all the potential of becoming more successful in the future togethere with bitcoin.
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Looking at the plans of Ethereum and developments coming up, I would say it is near to a sleeping man rather than giant. If we see a spring like before when all the new projects were choosing ETH for their coin, ETH will not go up. If new projects starts accepting the developments of ETH then we may see some movement. I would say the POS update will bring in at least some new members to the community.

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January 25, 2020, 12:15:39 PM
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Looking at the plans of Ethereum and developments coming up, I would say it is near to a sleeping man rather than giant. If we see a spring like before when all the new projects were choosing ETH for their coin, ETH will not go up. If new projects starts accepting the developments of ETH then we may see some movement. I would say the POS update will bring in at least some new members to the community.

Everything being equal, the switch to POS should bring in new Ethereum supporters and hence increase its value. If I say ETH is a sleeping giant, I won't be exaggerating since the developments so far are impressive, even though some Ethereum co-founder dumped a whooping sum which isn't cool. The future will tell anyway, we can't be very sure about our opinions in crypto.

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January 25, 2020, 12:25:12 PM
 #187

 Cheesy worries over holding will not amount to good, so, let's stop the worry and be focused to the positive side of Ethereum. We all know that, the development currently going in Ethereum network will need more time to prove its worth. Personally, am holding my portfolios, most especially that of the Ethereum.

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January 25, 2020, 02:22:53 PM
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◦ the switch to POS should bring in new Ethereum supporters and hence increase its value.
◦◦ the developments so far are impressive
◦◦◦ Ethereum co-founder dumped a whooping sum which isn't cool.
1, why POS is a proven fail, hundreds of pos coins created in 2014 where are the now, even the father of all started trading at $0.40 and now years later halved in price https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/peercoin/
2, how so? still unlimited supply, switch to pos suppose to happen at beginning of 2018 now 2020 and still has not happened, scaling not sorted lots of talk talk talk no action
3, well he knows whats up

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January 25, 2020, 04:26:40 PM
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I lost hope with etehreum can back to higher price because until today I never see new update from ethereum team and owner with new way how to make eth back with higher price, although last month have update news with system upgrade but etehreum keep stable with lower price and never move on to higher price.
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