Bitcoin cannot be decentralized if the Internet is centralized

[jessyj48]

Who even cares if internet is centralized or not? we have VPN every where online right? And moreover bitcoin is not running on the internet but blockchain, internet is only required to make transaction, you only have a point if blockchain was internet

[Bitcoinislife09]

The title is a bit confusing but I get the point. For sure we all know that the bitcoin is decentralized because of the miners the mine bitcoin and process the transactions also it is not centralized because no one control bitcoin or regulates bitcoin. Thinking about bitcoin I think it is clear that it has nothing to do with the bitcoin technology we just use it to connect, either way, internet is both centralized and decentralized,, decentralized because it composed of a lot of routers that bounce information also at the same time, for example, we visit one website that only has one server that whats makes it centralized.

[jostorres]

I am still trying to understand what you mean by the internet being centralized, if you’re referring to all these companies like Google, Facebook, and Amazon as you have said, then you’re completely wrong. And by the way, Amazon has nothing to do with controlling the internet, it’s just an online shopping platform and nothing else.

Facebook is a social media platform and they will only be focusing on that and nothing else. Google is just a search engine like Yahoo, Bing, Yandex, etc. These people don’t control the internet, they just help you reach the content you need. If it was able for them to control the internet and control Bitcoin, then the government would have started up similar platforms and their first targets would even be the dark web and not even Bitcoin, because there are lots of weird things going on there than you can imagine.

[Abiky]

I am still trying to understand what you mean by the internet being centralized, if you’re referring to all these companies like Google, Facebook, and Amazon as you have said, then you’re completely wrong. And by the way, Amazon has nothing to do with controlling the internet, it’s just an online shopping platform and nothing else.

Facebook is a social media platform and they will only be focusing on that and nothing else. Google is just a search engine like Yahoo, Bing, Yandex, etc. These people don’t control the internet, they just help you reach the content you need. If it was able for them to control the internet and control Bitcoin, then the government would have started up similar platforms and their first targets would even be the dark web and not even Bitcoin, because there are lots of weird things going on there than you can imagine.

It's true that the aforementioned companies don't control the Internet in their entirety. But technically they do, since their services are indispensable within cyber space. A person cannot live nowadays without using Google, Facebook, or even Amazon. One fact is that Amazon also provides cloud services (storage, web hosting, etc), which are not limited only to e-commerce. Considering that most people don't care about using centralized services which steal their utmost sensitive information, decentralizing the whole Internet would be quite a difficult (if not impossible) task to achieve.

Bitcoin may be decentralized by design, but it still depends on the centralized public Internet for transaction broadcasting. While you could say anyone can use privacy solutions like Tor & VPN, these same solutions are not 100% anonymous. If you become the target of ISPs and the government, it'll be difficult to use Bitcoin without getting noticed. That's why we need a decentralized Internet infrastructure in order to maintain the Bitcoin blockchain as resilient as possible. After all, Bitcoin full node operators are subject to different governments' regulations.

Nonetheless, the implementation of satellites, radio waves, and even mesh networks may be the first step to further decentralized the way we access the Bitcoin blockchain. But a lot of hard work needs to be done in order to provide a perfect solution that would resist the opposition of worldwide governments and ISPs. Just my thoughts

[Sanugarid]

Let's put it in another situation like this... It's like you're saying you can't achieve freedom because there is government controlling you with laws. But in reality, you still have freedom even if there's rules and regulations. Same situation with it. You cannot say that Bitcoin and other cryptocurrency can't be decentralized just because internet is centralized. I disagree with this. You use internet with crypto. Even if others can control the internet, it doesn't mean they can control cryptocurrency since they are still decentralized in nature.

Definitely, even if the government regulating the use of bitcoin, you can actually buy your own because in my own opinion, the internet is decentralized because we are all able to access it without knowing who is moderating. Let us say that there are particular website or application can regulate you but in all, internet is decentralized.
 

Who even cares if internet is centralized or not? we have VPN every where online right? And moreover bitcoin is not running on the internet but blockchain, internet is only required to make transaction, you only have a point if blockchain was internet

This is one of the answer if you want to buy bitcoin but your country regulates it. Although firewall are being used in your country but this VPN can allow you ti change your IP and location. Nothing can stop us buying bitcoin because we have experienced the greatness of this digital currency ourselves.