Iran has made a huge mistake and the world will pay a price for it.

[KingScorpio]

Just keep in mind in evaluating things, that the USA does not need Middle East oil anymore. Thanks to fracking, those days are over.

Because oil is a fungible resource, it is likely that no part of this fracas with affect oil prices.

the problem is imperialism, attacking us embassies revealed that treaties with iran are worthless they are no partners they are imperialists

[BADecker]

Just keep in mind in evaluating things, that the USA does not need Middle East oil anymore. Thanks to fracking, those days are over.

Because oil is a fungible resource, it is likely that no part of this fracas with affect oil prices.

the problem is imperialism, attacking us embassies revealed that treaties with iran are worthless they are no partners they are imperialists

No, the problem is, all the fracking in CA is setting off some massive earthquakes. When CA falls off into the Pacific, Iran might win by default.

[KingScorpio]

Just keep in mind in evaluating things, that the USA does not need Middle East oil anymore. Thanks to fracking, those days are over.

Because oil is a fungible resource, it is likely that no part of this fracas with affect oil prices.

the problem is imperialism, attacking us embassies revealed that treaties with iran are worthless they are no partners they are imperialists

No, the problem is, all the fracking in CA is setting off some massive earthquakes. When CA falls off into the Pacific, Iran might win by default.

fracking isn't that dangerous, also there are increasingly electric cars. the middle eastern oil is not needed in the west, there are alternatives, but we all know that they will constantly threathen the west, thats why they want nuclear weapons

[squatz1]

Indeed, it was a gutsy move. They are already experts at raiding embassies but imho they shouldn't have bragged about it online. And after that dude got killed they chose to escalate by firing those missiles.

I don't really know what's their game, if they really think they can take on America. I remember there's some conspiracy theory circulating that China and Russia would support an aggression by Iran and when conflict starts, they all gang up on an overstretched America. How likely would that be?

This really isn't an issue for right now anymore, both Iran and the US came out saying that both of them are going to be relaxing tensions against one another and do not want war. Makes sense for both sides to be honest.

Iran doesn't want to go to war with the US (and their coalition) and be destroyed as a nation.
America doesn't want to deal with the issues at home of dealing with a war. As those are never too popular when its a war like this. People have a bad taste in their mouth from Iraq and Afghan.

This is going to wind down now, maybe a few more hiccups for the next couple months. But we now know that neither nation wants this to turn into war.

[franky1]

(facepalm x3)

its wise enough for Iran to stay away from USA

U.S. Citizens should honestly prepare themselves for an upcoming war.

if they really think they can take on America.

iran are not attacking america or its citizens.. iran are defending their country against foreign military that are in iran.. they want that military to get out and go home

american citizens have nothing to fear. american citizens eat and sleep thousands of mile of land and thousand mile if water away from iran.. calm down

[KingScorpio]

(facepalm x3)

its wise enough for Iran to stay away from USA

U.S. Citizens should honestly prepare themselves for an upcoming war.

if they really think they can take on America.

iran are not attacking america or its citizens.. iran are defending their country against foreign military that are in iran.. they want that military to get out and go home

american citizens have nothing to fear. american citizens eat and sleep thousands of mile of land and thousand mile if water away from iran.. calm down

you have no idea what iran seeks,

iran tries to become a regional hegemon, then attacking and insulting others, bullying them,

iran tried to pressure european leaders to spend 400 billion for the reconstruction of syria.

they are not just an economic or communist power seeking to develop themselves and the region like germany they are active imperialists.

[darkangel11]

They continue to produce nuclear weapons and that will eventually lead to an open conflict. It may not be now but it will happen. There's only 2 ways you can go with nuclear weapon production these days. One is the route of secrecy and the other of open hostility. North Korea chose the second one and it made it an outlaw and Iran is trying to become just like that. Their problem is the country is Islamic and we all know that they can't just wall themselves and sit tight on their asses, they want to travel, spread their religion, influence the region. It's not going to happen!

[Cnut237]

I don't really know what's their game, if they really think they can take on America.

I think they can take on America. Not in a straight, all-out US vs Iran war of course, but then that's not Iran's style. The history of US foreign interventions since WW2 gives context and lessons. Iran doesn't have to have tanks arranged on the White House lawn in order to win. There are other avenues. They are already causing oil prices to rise...

I remember there's some conspiracy theory circulating that China and Russia would support an aggression by Iran and when conflict starts, they all gang up on an overstretched America. How likely would that be?

Very unlikely I think to see an overt conflict between China/Russia and the US, but it's no secret that Iran is allied with both China and Russia. For example, they conducted a joint naval drill in December.
Despite China's ever-growing role in world affairs, they have somehow managed to stay quite neutral so far in the chaos of the Middle East. I would imagine this is intentional rather than inadvertent. One concern I suppose is that the US/Iran thing might cause China to take a side, although again, whilst that is far more likely than an outright China/US conflict, I would still say it is unlikely overall.
Most likely I think is proxy attacks around the world against US interests, probably involving Hezbollah, and maybe involving covertly channeled Russian funding. Just speculation though, I'm no expert.

[dogtana]

Why should the world pay for US doing? Would be a bit cowardly or at leadt incompetent from Iran, wouldn't it?

[BADecker]

Why should the world pay for US doing? Would be a bit cowardly or at leadt incompetent from Iran, wouldn't it?

Are you trying to say that the US made Iran? The US would be giving the world a gift if it could tame Iran. But since Iran won't be tamed, the gift to the world will be the US getting rid of Iran. The price the world will pay is fear.

[PoS]

Shah of Iran when Iran looked like this and the head of state was not religious and wearing a suit.
https://youtu.be/6kySR3fpa5s
https://youtu.be/XrCK6CD1dKM

[tvbcof]

Shah of Iran when Iran looked like this and the head of state was not religious and wearing a suit.
https://youtu.be/6kySR3fpa5s
https://youtu.be/XrCK6CD1dKM

If you pitched a bitch about the western puppet giving your resources away to foreign powers it looked a bit more like this:



It's not surprising to me that the revolution happened and has show staying power.  The peeps on the ground understand the options.

The above is kinda reminiscent certain activities a while later.  Basically the same group with basically the same set of trainers (some would call them demons):

[gabmen]

They continue to produce nuclear weapons and that will eventually lead to an open conflict. It may not be now but it will happen. There's only 2 ways you can go with nuclear weapon production these days. One is the route of secrecy and the other of open hostility. North Korea chose the second one and it made it an outlaw and Iran is trying to become just like that. Their problem is the country is Islamic and we all know that they can't just wall themselves and sit tight on their asses, they want to travel, spread their religion, influence the region. It's not going to happen!

Hence the fear for most of us. And iran doesn't seem to have any plans of backing down despite the consequences of a full blown war against the us may bring. Even the regular citizens seem to be primed up to go against america. Trump may have deescalated things by refraining to retaliate the bombing of their military houses in iraq, but with recent updates of iran admitting they've shot down a passenger plane, things could escalate again with renewed vigor.

[Wysi]

I am not surprised at the decision made by US which all started with the assassination of the Irani general who was hailed as hero by one sent of Muslims wherein as a war criminal by the other sect and so this time it will Iran whose economy will be collapsed and if they go at war then they will be doomed back to stone age and whole world will feel the wrath of economic slowdown and raise of inflation for a short period of time but as much as predicted.

[sovie]

Iran no doubt has made many mistake but it seems like it’s not going to made its biggest ever mistake i.e. attacking the USA. Good news is that things are getting back on track and hopefully we won’t see any direct fighting between these two countries.

[Negotiation]

In my opinion if Iran wars with Iran in the US the most affected here will be Iran It will have a great shape for the people and economy of the country. That's why the Iranians should stop this attack Considering the progress of humankind  Trump must immediately stop planning for war against them.

[Ditchs]

I would have agreed with u when this strike first took place op but as time goes on I see it was a measured response to the killing of Iran's general. What made me think this is when the attack took place it was literallly only a minute or 2 after the attack when Iran's prime minister created a tweet saying we believe this was proportionate attack and will not be seeking to strike further targets. Ok that's clue one but the details about the strike itself make me absolutely convinced that Iran intentionally missed U.S. troops. They fired ballistic missiles at the base not ur average run of the mill rocket like Hezbollah consistently uses on isreal and are very inaccurate snd hard to aim.(which are provided to Hezbollah by iran). The missiles Iran used are multi million dollar semi-sophisticated weapons. All this evidence just tells me that Iran had to do something to not look weak to the international community and more importantly their own people. Thanks guys!

[Jet Cash]

I understand that Trump realises that he suffered a major strategic defeat by authorising the assasination, and that it was based on misinformation and manipulation by the warmongers in the White House. It seems he is not happy about this, and there have been some high level changes.

With regards to the response by Iran. It seems to have been orchestrated to provide an off ramp for both Iraq and the US, and Iran was involved in the negotiation. This explains why The US was given one hours notice of the response, and they were able to evacuate the areas. It also explains why the anti-missile defences were not activated.

[Ditchs]

I understand that Trump realises that he suffered a major strategic defeat by authorising the assasination, and that it was based on misinformation and manipulation by the warmongers in the White House. It seems he is not happy about this, and there have been some high level changes.

With regards to the response by Iran. It seems to have been orchestrated to provide an off ramp for both Iraq and the US, and Iran was involved in the negotiation. This explains why The US was given one hours notice of the response, and they were able to evacuate the areas. It also explains why the anti-missile defences were not activated.

Yea trump did an interview a few days ago and the woman interviewing him asked if they had solid intelligence an attack on America or embassies was imminent he said he personally believed the guy was gonna attack 4 embassies.. what is trump a pyshic now? So far there is no intelligence to back up his claims....

[KingScorpio]

Shah of Iran when Iran looked like this and the head of state was not religious and wearing a suit.
https://youtu.be/6kySR3fpa5s
https://youtu.be/XrCK6CD1dKM

societies looking like that also age, and end up having not enough young people to replace the old ones,

also such societies have to keep dicriminitating/surpressing its labourers, while continueing to enrich its capitalist elite

to prevent decay they usually leach labour workforce from other societies, like the usa in its founding years from the monarchies of europe, or the west from eastern europe and russia,

and later india/china.

societies that uplift women are usually not sustainable, competition ends up being a sin and a waste of ressources.

caring for the elderly indefinate will piss of the young tax payers

regards