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January 08, 2020, 07:16:16 PM
Last edit: January 10, 2020, 08:15:18 AM by hosseinimr93
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Recently, there have been some discussions about those who send 50 merit in a single transactions.
You can visit the following threads.

50 merit for an non-contribute topic
Posts: 0, Activity:0, merit: 136
Does this tread really deserve the attention it has got?
Reduce 50 merit limit per post.

I provided some data with the help of DdmrDdmr merit dashboard for a 100-day period (from September 24, 2019 to January 03, 2020)
In these 100 days, we have 26 merit transactions that contain 50 merit. ( I didn't consider merits sent in the art contest)
Numbers in parentheses are number of earned merits.

from TMAN (1195) to The-Devil (102)
from TMAN (1195) to Vispilio (761)
from TMAN (1195) to Vispilio (761)
from TMAN (1195) to yogg (1109)
from TMAN (1195) to tk808 (537)
from TMAN (1195) to tk808 (537)

from franky1 (577) to gmaxwell (2040)
from franky1 (577) to theymos (6388)
from franky1 (577)to 50 to gmaxwell (2040)

from suchmoon (3467) to tk808 (537)
from suchmoon (3467) to LTU_btc (295)

From theymos (6388) to eaLiTy (162)
From JL421 (0) to Newbie1273819 (136) suspicious
From phr0stbyt3 (0) to Newbie1273819 (136) suspicious
From emberbekas (0) to Isildur (official) (80)
From Vlad2Vlad (167) to Nasakioto (133)
From gjhiggins (105) to BitcoinFX (253)
From Rw13enlib88 (25) to Hal (681)
From abctc (4) to BCNext (53)
From Deathwing (209) to Vispilio (761)
From Jalum (0) to Neovitadi (252) suspicious
From asdalani (0) to Neovitadi (252) suspicious
From stripykitteh (1) to Neovitadi (252) suspicious
From MicroGuy (11) to satoshi (2397)
From Mitchell (433) to Royse777 (591)
From marcus_of_augustus (191) to infofront (909)


According to these data, I don't think there is a big issue. I mean there aren't many abusers.

TMAN, franky1 and suchmoon are only users that have sent 50 merit in a single transaction more than one time in the 100-day period.
There is no doubt that there is no problem with these merit transactions.

There are 15 users that have sent 50 merit in a single transaction in the 100-day period.
It's obvious that, JL421, phr0stbyt3, Newbie1273819, Neovitadi, Jalum, asdalani, stripykitteh have abused the merit system.


Edit: while I was writing, tranthidung made a post and provided some data too.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5215884.msg53555092#msg53555092

The second post by tranthidung with some clarification:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5215884.msg53557181#msg53557181

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January 09, 2020, 12:11:18 AM
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I don't get the point of this topic...really.

According to these data, I don't think there is a big issue. I mean there aren't many abusers.
Obviously theymos is abusing the system. TMAN, suchmoon, Mitchell are well-known abusers too Roll Eyes

It's obvious that, JL421, phr0stbyt3, Newbie1273819, Neovitadi, Jalum, asdalani, stripykitteh have abused the merit system.
Simply report them so DT will paint them red... Also the first three ones were discussed in another topic.
Edit : here is the topic : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5215492.0 (no need to duplicate the same topic, already created by yourself)
Edit 2 : Shit. Just understand why

 
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January 09, 2020, 01:28:11 AM
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I don't get the point of this topic...really.
Re-read the subject, OP's just stating those transactions.
Simply report them so DT will paint them red...
That is already considered as a misuse of the Trust System. We now refrain from tagging them red just for Abusing the Merit System.




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January 09, 2020, 01:51:51 AM
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The system is not black and white, you can't limit it because there are people who are abusing the system, just think outside the box and accept that there are really abusers no matter how good the system is, what's important is that majority are still not abusing it.

Merit system is not a big deal actually, I find trust can be more abused than a merit, that's my 2 cents.




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January 09, 2020, 02:19:00 AM
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I made my second post on this, with some clarification, please add that one in your OP, and my first post edited a little too (with some clarifications).

As I wrote in my analyses, I don't see serious things with 50-merit transactions (I could be wrong). Especially if we look at how many of such transactions gave away to shitposters. Don't let the shitposters affect the good-posters.

I don't know, but as theymos said he never sticks to anything so the community's complaints might cause some changes.
I am never completely tied to anything, but let's try this for at least a few months and seehow it works.




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January 09, 2020, 02:30:31 AM
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Simply report them so DT will paint them red... Also the first three ones were discussed in another topic.
This is so 2018. It's not a thing that is done by DT members anymore. Personally i would love to see something done about clear misuse of large amounts of sMerits. Like reversing the transaction or something in that line.

I know people will claim that this is something small or the merit abuse is the least of our worries, but we have to look at things from different perspective.

Imagine a newbie who has spent months and months trying to acquire even just 10 merits and then boom. Someone receives 50 Merit for a useless post, quite discouraging, isn't it?

My other worry is what if sending 50 Merits becomes the new normal? Now that the abusers know that they will get away with sending 50 sMerits to worthless posts... What happens when 50 sMerist start flying from Left, Right and Centre?
The merit system we have fought so hard to keep growing positively in the right direction will literally be blown into pieces by abusers.

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January 09, 2020, 10:55:40 AM
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from TMAN (1195) to Vispilio (761)
from TMAN (1195) to Vispilio (761)

from TMAN (1195) to tk808 (537)
from TMAN (1195) to tk808 (537)


If you check both users you will see I helped them rank up to legendary as I believe the merit system was not made to hold users back like the guys above, in a similar vein I believe op should be a hero by now and ill be dropping 50 on him next time I get sauce. As long as merits are getting sent I am happy, much better than them getting pulled out the pool as I didnt have time to spend them!

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Those users have reputations to give 50merits to a single user. Based on their judgement those people deserved it.

I have more than 50smerits in my posession then I decided to give it to a single user also. I'm pretty sure I will be starting again another issue like what happened with TMAN's merited post. But IMO its any user right to give it to someone whom we think deserved it whatever quality post he produced. Since we dont have similar judgement here and as long the reason of it isnt trading or transacting merits that involve money.

Thanks OP for researching those information but in the end this kind of thing will not be an issue for people who knows what theyre doing.


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January 09, 2020, 02:16:18 PM
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Simply report them so DT will paint them red... Also the first three ones were discussed in another topic.
This is so 2018. It's not a thing that is done by DT members anymore.
Time stopped right there for some people  Smiley

I don't get the point of this topic...really.
Re-read the subject, OP's just stating those transactions.
Re-read my edit 1 & 2.

Collecting merit in such way is pathetic imo.

 
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January 09, 2020, 02:48:44 PM
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Imagine a newbie who has spent months and months trying to acquire even just 10 merits and then boom. Someone receives 50 Merit for a useless post, quite discouraging, isn't it?
Users reputation in the forum isn't built only with merits.
Those who have sent and received 50 merit for a useless post without any reason and are abusing the system, not only haven't earned anything, but also have destroyed their reputation.
Merits don't make users reputable and high-quality posters.
Fortunately, everything goes in the forum is public and abusing the system is not that easy.
A newbie shouldn't be discouraged by such things. Because abusers earn nothing.

As I said, there are probably some abuses, but we are not facing a big problem.

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Imagine a newbie who has spent months and months trying to acquire even just 10 merits and then boom. Someone receives 50 Merit for a useless post, quite discouraging, isn't it?
Users reputation in the forum isn't built only with merits.
Agree, If somebody in this community is losing hope just because they don't get merits, they don't belong here. I kept telling my fellow users here that merits just means to admire the effort or content of someone similar to social media likes. It's wrong to have a merit-focusing mentality just because they wanted to rank quickly and earn money since one of the qualifications in the campaigns is merits.

I've seen a lot of merit transactions that made me think it was very unfair. Sometimes, favoritism is being applied when meriting someone but all these things don't bother me now. I just realized that it wasn't really for merits that I wanted to stay here, it's about your learning passion. So if I didn't receive any merit to a self-made thread of mine, who cares at least I made a contribution to my local. If someone is interested in how I've done it so far, try to check how many quality threads I've made to earn those merits that I have.

 
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According to these data, I don't think there is a big issue. I mean there aren't many abusers.
What do you mean by that sentence? Please explain a bit in detail.
I saw "theymos" on the list above, I doubt if you are trying to suspect him abusing the merit system created by himself.  Huh
It is a serious thing for me. Since he is an administrator forum, this accusation may ruin the reputation of the forum.
So, please be careful to write down something that may cause bad impacts on the overall forum.

>I am not siding with anyone. This opinion is purely my own.

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Last edit: January 10, 2020, 08:29:18 AM by hosseinimr93
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According to these data, I don't think there is a big issue. I mean there aren't many abusers.
What do you mean by that sentence? Please explain a bit in detail.
I saw "theymos" on the list above, I doubt if you are trying to suspect him abusing the merit system created by himself.  Huh
It is a serious thing for me. Since he is an administrator forum, this accusation may ruin the reputation of the forum.
So, please be careful to write down something that may cause bad impacts on the overall forum.

>I am not siding with anyone. This opinion is purely my own.

I know who Theymos is. Wish you had read the full topic before making a post.
I just counted 50 merit transactions in a 100-day period.
Total number of 50 merit transactions was 26.
TMAN, franky1  and suchmoon made 6, 3 and 2 of transactions respectively.
All of us know they are trusted members of the forum and I said:

There is no doubt that there is no problem with these merit transactions.

There were 15 other users who had sent 50 merit in a single transaction.

I checked these transactions one by one. (Some of transactions like the one theymos made didn't need to be checked.)
There were a few users that had abused the merit system. These users had sent 50 merit to other users without any reason and I mentioned their usernames as follows.

It's obvious that, JL421, phr0stbyt3, Newbie1273819, Neovitadi, Jalum, asdalani, stripykitteh have abused the merit system.

Do you see theymos among these usernames?

Edit: I edited the OP. I added the "suspicious" in front of transactions made by abusers.

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January 10, 2020, 06:31:40 AM
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~snp~
If you read carefully my post above, it is actually a suggestion only, I don't try to debate with you. Sorry, I have no time to debate with you this time, I am quite busy with my real-jobs.

Of course, I know that you know very well who theymos is. Your account is older than me. If you don't know him, how pitty you just wasting time since May 04, 2017, here.

What I stated above is to warn you that we must be careful to write down something that may cause bad impacts on the overall forum. But surely that's up to you, to accept or not.

Well, I hope this post can speed up your progress to reach Hero. You really have an extraordinary critical soul.  Roll Eyes

Thanks, this is the last response of me to your post above. Good luck!!!!!

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January 10, 2020, 02:01:22 PM
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I don't get the point of this topic...really.

According to these data, I don't think there is a big issue. I mean there aren't many abusers.
Obviously theymos is abusing the system. TMAN, suchmoon, Mitchell are well-known abusers too Roll Eyes

It's obvious that, JL421, phr0stbyt3, Newbie1273819, Neovitadi, Jalum, asdalani, stripykitteh have abused the merit system.
Simply report them so DT will paint them red... Also the first three ones were discussed in another topic.
Edit : here is the topic : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5215492.0 (no need to duplicate the same topic, already created by yourself)
Edit 2 : Shit. Just understand why
Theymos gives merit if they deserve it , at the same time i don't think he will do that because he know the consequences, can you show something that he really abusing the system?

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January 10, 2020, 11:09:48 PM
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I don't get the point of this topic...really.

According to these data, I don't think there is a big issue. I mean there aren't many abusers.
Obviously theymos is abusing the system. TMAN, suchmoon, Mitchell are well-known abusers too Roll Eyes

It's obvious that, JL421, phr0stbyt3, Newbie1273819, Neovitadi, Jalum, asdalani, stripykitteh have abused the merit system.
Simply report them so DT will paint them red... Also the first three ones were discussed in another topic.
Edit : here is the topic : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5215492.0 (no need to duplicate the same topic, already created by yourself)
Edit 2 : Shit. Just understand why
Theymos gives merit if they deserve it , at the same time i don't think he will do that because he know the consequences, can you show something that he really abusing the system?

I wouldn't answer you firstly, because we all know that theymos is the biggest merit abuser living in earth...ever...and since you are a FULL MEMBER i will give you the most awaited ANSWER but in the form of 2 questions : How do you become a full member seriously? and How old are you?
Of course, you aren't asked to answer it but to think twice.
Tips : read between the lines comrades before commenting

 
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