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January 08, 2020, 11:23:43 PM
Last edit: January 08, 2020, 11:40:57 PM by The-One-Above-All
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Let me correct the "unwarranted" statement.  The feedback itself is appropriate.  It just isn't necessary.  That's what I should have written.  I am in no way criticizing you for negging this guy, because I wouldn't trust him either.
Yes please. It's quite a nuisance to be attacked for something that isn't necessary but is appropriate masked under the reasoning that it isn't appropriate. This is a general statement based off of sentiment over the last couple of months, not particularly saying that you've been attacking people! Content theft is by every definition stealing, therefore a trust-related action. How do we handle plagiarism? Forum staff bans the users. Should we vilify people who leave negative ratings for plagiarism, i.e. scamming? No.

Fork your own words if want fork. Stealing is a no go.

The "plagiarism" of posting some other persons work for helpful reasons is fucking requiring a BAN is bogus as fuck here WHEN you take it in the full context of the SCAMMING, EXTORTING, TRUSTABUSE and shady escrow and supporting other AUCTION SCAMMERS

Let's START WITH THE MOST SERIOUS SCAMMING, EXTORTING AND TRUST ABUSING scum like you first lauda, after we ban you, tman, nutildah, then we can start thinking up a more suitable punishments for those posting GUIDES to help others without giving FULL CREDIT to those that made the guide originally. Sure some punishment but lets start getting sensible here in the full context of the danger posed to members of this forum.
Like take their sigs away for a year.

SO yes let's delete his sigs for a year or 2 AFTER we have banned the scammers and extortionists and auction scammers like you.

Turns my stomach to see a fucking dirt bag like you and your scummy scammer supporter pals screaming these types of "plagiarists " must be banned IMMEDIATELY LOL

How did you get all cocky and start posting back on meta as if you have a snow white history here you croatian dog??

Myself or my good friends will NEVER stop reminding you that you don't get to call for bans and punishments for LESSER crimes than you have committed here many times.

Sure punish them, 2 year sig ban for helpful non financially motivated guides etc, BUT ONLY if we are punishing consistent scammers and extortionists and trust abusers with BANS FIRST.

The peado, rapist, murdering, armed robber,  crying DEATH PENALTY for the guy that shop lifted the 1cent candy LOL --- whilst the sicko thief murderer becomes a judge and jury all rolled into one and paid nicely ahahahahahah no thanks.

Negative trust is perhaps fine, but NOT protocol here is it??, although I see NO DIRECT financial risk of other members COMPARED to the scamming , extorting, auction scamming, trust abusing etc.

No more double standards in meta. You will be called on it EVERY TIME. No scammers get to cry for others punishments for LESSER deeds. Fuck off. If not by ourselves we have infinite friends that will ALWAYS be there to tell the truth.

These people do not give one fuck about plagiarism at all. They post memes or even pics with WORDING (guides, definitions, who passages of text etc) that would be classed as plagiarism if it were not in PICTURE form not text LOL ...like that makes any fucking difference.

THEN they BEG for their own PALS chibitchity or whatever his name is to be reinstated after admitting he did plagiarize for financial reasons LOLLOLOLOL
Double standards.





 


The plagiarism aspect is clearly noted in the " abuse" of trust
Lauda speculates on the validity of it and implications of it.

We answer and BOOM off topic and irrelevant HOW SO??

Mods MORE than welcome to explain for clarity.

The abuse is based on plagiarism, which is a mod issue not red trust anyway right??? suggesting bans etc is just the icing on the cake from scammers?? is it off topic to say that SCAMMERS that pose a clear and direct danger to honest members should be taken care of 1st?? this is not permitted flow?? how so??

OUR post debates the legitimacy of the plagiarism claim, the motivation , the full context of punishment for dangers posed to honest members here??? and the right of scammers to call for bans for posting guides without full credits to the original creator??

Let's get to the bottom of this mystery???

WHO reported and WHO deleted??? enough is enough , lets debate and CLARIFY the permitted flow here on this forum. ANOTHER gamed and weaponized metric (deleted posts).

Come on mods STOP hiding up sniping away with deletes. Let's hear your clear and detailed explanation. I don't give 1 fuck if this account gets banned on SPURIOUS grounds. It only serves as an example of how fucked this forum is.  My friends are numerous and horny to take up this torch. You will NEVER silence the truth and the message that double standards here are NOT going to be tolerated.

Permitted flow is so subjective, and the last weapon they have when all others are crushed.

Either the guy is being abused or not , who is abusing him and why is it abuse?? are double standards abuse or not?  I realize these are complex concepts for most here. Plagiarism ?? copying guides to help other with no direct financial gain vs undeniable scamming?? hhmmmmm which to tackle first??

The moderation here and the leverage of the broken gamed metrics it produces are clear and dangerous. Permitted flow needs to be thrashed out and made transparent. Else it is a scam like most things here now.
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January 09, 2020, 01:27:26 AM
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Because you aren't discussing the plagiarism of that user at all (or the fact that they appear to be evading a ban with an alt account).

You are basically talking about every user EXCEPT the one the thread is aimed at. As usual, you're commenting in a post that has NOTHING to do with the DT members and yet, the bulk of your post is regarding DT members.

Simply throwing the word 'plagiarism' into your post a couple of times, does NOT magically make it 'on-top'. Roll Eyes


Either the guy is being abused or not , who is abusing him and why is it abuse?? are double standards abuse or not?  I realize these are complex concepts for most here. Plagiarism ?? copying guides to help other with no direct financial gain vs undeniable scamming?? hhmmmmm which to tackle first??
See, you don't care about the alleged plagiarism at all (and I doubt you even looked at the posts). You are just wanting to bang your 'DT are all corrupt trust abusers' drum. You have plenty of other threads (that you have started) for that purpose.

BTW, copying guidesplagiarism to farm merit to rank up to participate in bounties and campaigns IS 'direct financial gain' Roll Eyes


WHO reported and WHO deleted???
Wasn't me, but I would have if I had seen it in time.
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January 09, 2020, 01:38:25 AM
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Wasn't me, but I would have if I had seen it in time.
Wasn't me either, and I was directly involved in that discussion.  I've got OP on ignore and didn't even read what he wrote--and even when it was quoted here I didn't read it except for a quick skimming in which I noticed:

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The peado, rapist, murdering, armed robber,  crying DEATH PENALTY for the guy that shop lifted the 1cent candy LOL

So it would have been obvious to anyone else that OP's post was just another rant that he crow-barred into a thread that he had no business posting in.  It might not even have gotten reported.  It's possible a moderator read it and just deleted it.  Who knows, but people are tired of all this nonsense from cryptohunter's alt accounts.  It's been going on for way too long.

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January 09, 2020, 09:12:19 AM
Last edit: January 09, 2020, 09:41:06 AM by The-One-Above-All
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Because you aren't discussing the plagiarism of that user at all (or the fact that they appear to be evading a ban with an alt account).

You are basically talking about every user EXCEPT the one the thread is aimed at. As usual, you're commenting in a post that has NOTHING to do with the DT members and yet, the bulk of your post is regarding DT members.

Simply throwing the word 'plagiarism' into your post a couple of times, does NOT magically make it 'on-top'. Roll Eyes


Either the guy is being abused or not , who is abusing him and why is it abuse?? are double standards abuse or not?  I realize these are complex concepts for most here. Plagiarism ?? copying guides to help other with no direct financial gain vs undeniable scamming?? hhmmmmm which to tackle first??
See, you don't care about the alleged plagiarism at all (and I doubt you even looked at the posts). You are just wanting to bang your 'DT are all corrupt trust abusers' drum. You have plenty of other threads (that you have started) for that purpose.

BTW, copying guidesplagiarism to farm merit to rank up to participate in bounties and campaigns IS 'direct financial gain' Roll Eyes


WHO reported and WHO deleted???
Wasn't me, but I would have if I had seen it in time.

What is this coward sock puppet talking about??

THIS IS COMPLETELY INCORRECT.

The thread is ABOUT DT MEMBERS DESTROYING HIS ACCOUNT. This is why idiots like the pharmacist and this puppet are completely TRASHED by us in every single debate.

I very much doubt the initial poster started a thread to NOT talk about DT destroying/abusing his account BUT rather to discuss his own alleged plagiarism LOL. It says on the red trust clearly what it is for. He is clearly being sarcastic saying " thanks for abusing/destroying my account with red when I was trying to help noobies with guides"...he is CORRECT to be saying that too, regarding the plagiarism aspect. READ ON.

The initial POSTER gets to determine the thread content NOT lauda who wants to ONLY talk about the initial posters wrong doing outside of any context of his own behavior. It is the DT's behavior that is ALSO in question here. Their behavior must be assessed in the full context of their history here. Is it double standards and abuse or not??? lets find out...

Those DT members ARE abusing his account in the context that their scamming is OKAY but his presenting some guides they claim are plagiarised are worthy of red trust and a ban. Besides plagiarism is NOT a red trusting issue it is for the mods to take care of. SO again it is outside of the boards protocol and is abuse.

To set sensible punishment (which is what lauda starts adding to this thread) the full context of wrong doing here and the punishment given for that should be raised to discuss appropriate and consistent options for the punishment.

I don't need to talk about what LAUDA or DT want to frame the discussion as. I only need to discuss what the initial poster wants to discuss. DT members abusing/destroying his account. Certainly abusing it with their double standards when they are found BEGGING for their plagiarist for financial gain PAL chibitchity to be reinstated after he admitted he plagiarized for financial reasons. DOUBLE STANDARDS = ABUSE ... scum bags like lauda and the smarmacist were complaining i remember about his ban or saying he should not be banned in the first place if i recall

How can lauda be begging for his pal to be reinstated when they admitted if was for financial gain, so therefore campaign scamming? but be demanding BAN for this guy?? this is ABUSE. You can not create a 2 tier system, one for your friends and one for others can you?? sorry for bringing this up though lol

Is that clear now??

So having established that. I want to know how the fuck my post is off topic and irrelevant.

Even more funny is this. The permitted flow seems to allow turds like the pharmacist and other such low functioning double standards dregs to come to MY threads and totally derail them with OFF TOPIC and IRRELEVANT garbage which is not deleted even when I report it.

If you want examples of such threads that are pulled WAY WAY WAY off topic and totally derailed by these same DT shit stains then simply ask.

NICE TRY though, next please. Fun destroying cowards and imbeciles. On to someone that can give a slightly better excuse for the SCAMMY delete.

There needs to be a clear and transparent guide to permitted flow. We make threads and the permitted flow seems to be ANYTHING FUCKING GOES.  

When we comment on threads and are clearly addressing the content in the initial post DIRECTLY we get deleted for off topic and irrelevant LOL

Nice echo chambers we are creating here.

I mean where is the reporter and cowardly mod that keeps pushing this double standards moderation here in meta?? where are they hiding??

Notice this sock puppets merit is being powered up by LFC bitchcon and dubious nullius??? hmm how interesting.
Another account that will be used to further entrench scammers and scum bags on DT.
Try not to be so transparent guys, it is getting too easy to spot. Come on tman slap him with 50 merits whilst you still can.

The smarmacist here claiming it has been going on for too long LOL... bring me some more posts that you can demonstrate are off topic and irrelevant. HINT go to our deleted posts thread in rep and bring them here. There you will find a ton more that are WAY WAY WAY WAY more on topic and relevant that 99% of the shit littered on other threads by DT deliberately trying to derail them.

This board is turning into one GIANT double standards SCAM.

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So having established that.
You have not established anything relevant. Simply saying "That is completely incorrect", does not actually make it so.


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I want to know how the fuck my post is off topic and irrelevant.
Your continued 'Whataboutism' is very much off-topic.

OP is upset that various users have tagged/flagged their account. Various users explain it is for plagiarism and that they've been identified as a possible ban evader.

You then cry "but what about Lauda, tman, nutildah and their abuse?", then go on another long winded rant and then throw in "but what about the ChiBitCTy plagiarism case??" to finish.  While ignoring or attempting to gloss over the fact that the OP is a plagiarist. Roll Eyes

As mentioned previously, you have multiple threads about Lauda, tman, nutildah et al. to discuss them and what you perceive to be their abuse of all and sundry and if you would like to discuss the ChiBitCTy case, perhaps open a thread about that. Although, I'm fairly sure that it was already discussed here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5114253.20


Now, having established that, do you now understand "how the fuck your post is off topic and irrelevant" to that thread? Huh
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January 11, 2020, 12:47:39 PM
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So having established that.
You have not established anything relevant. Simply saying "That is completely incorrect", does not actually make it so.


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I want to know how the fuck my post is off topic and irrelevant.
Your continued 'Whataboutism' is very much off-topic.

OP is upset that various users have tagged/flagged their account. Various users explain it is for plagiarism and that they've been identified as a possible ban evader.

You then cry "but what about Lauda, tman, nutildah and their abuse?", then go on another long winded rant and then throw in "but what about the ChiBitCTy plagiarism case??" to finish.  While ignoring or attempting to gloss over the fact that the OP is a plagiarist. Roll Eyes

As mentioned previously, you have multiple threads about Lauda, tman, nutildah et al. to discuss them and what you perceive to be their abuse of all and sundry and if you would like to discuss the ChiBitCTy case, perhaps open a thread about that. Although I'm fairly sure that it was already discussed here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5114253.20


Now, having established that, do you now understand "how the fuck your post is off topic and irrelevant" to that thread? Huh

When will these cowardly sock puppets start to understand it is impossible to defeat me and the truth here.

1. the OP is claiming it is ABUSE that they have flagged him for this alleged plagiarism and lauda is also claiming he should be banned
2. I confirm that they are ABUSING him and the trust system by IMPOSING DOUBLE STANDARDS
a/ they screaming their pal chibitchity should not have been banned for ADMITTING FINANCIALLY  MOTIVATED plagiarism, and then scream they want him re-instated after the ban
b/ I also give my opinion that it is also abuse on the grounds that THEY have done far more financially motivated wrong doing than him, and now are speaking about red trust, flags and a ban whilst NOT having any of those themselves. The CORRECT punishment for a alleged crime can only be discussed and decided upon in the context of ALL OTHER CRIMES here on this forum in order to establish a consistent and credible punishment.
3. The mods REFUSE to delete posts from these fucking dregs that appear on our threads and have NOTHING TO DO WITH THE INITIAL POST AT ALL. and at times these corrupt cunting mods will go and merit off topic allegations that have NO relevance at all to the thread.

You have not debunked any of those points so fuck off back under your rock you cowardly piece of shit.

One only has to take note of those powering up your merits to realize who controls this dirty cunt.

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these are obvious lauda and scammers supporters

also

look at MOST of your posts??? they seem to predominantly stalking our account you creepy cowardly little freak.

Now realize I will keep caving your skull in in public like this and pointing out what a low functioning coward you are.

Stop taking hours to dream up this crap and reply more quickly It is fun to crush you.
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