Can you guys identify Whale move?

[psjin128]

As i am looking at bitcoin chart now, BTC price just soared little bit in a short time.

It happened because of whale's move or not.


Btw, can anybody identify whale's move? If there is a way to see it, is there a tip for it?

And has anyone experienced BISPEX exchange known as its insurance funding?


Thx!

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[Soots]

There's now way to identify these guys on when they're trying to enter the market. I don't see any possible reason for them to take the good moves, since it was difficult to analyze while crypto price has no stable increase. Most traders was hesitant when price gains a fewer percentage and suddenly crashes down.
One thing I would like to see now for possible whales to take actions, if there's a huge bounce maybe that's the good signs and we won't see any portion of reds on our blockfolio.

[rosezionjohn]

As i am looking at bitcoin chart now, BTC price just soared little bit in a short time.

I would not say it soared. It's been downhill since going pass $9,000.

Btw, can anybody identify whale's move? If there is a way to see it, is there a tip for it?

The best way to know is when you personally know someone who can move the market. Some people are good at analyzing the charts but nobody can really determine when a pump is about to happen until it happens. A whale or whales could have been anyone with a deep pocket or any group working together.

[bassbity]

Since yesterday bitcoin has dropped but it's not so bad maybe it's just a correction and it won't cause a severe dump.

I don't know if this is a transfer from the pope or not because we don't have evidence to see that so we can only hear it from other people.

To identify the steps of the pope I think it is difficult to know because they are anonymous.

[alexforneus]

People are so hyped about whales transactions. I dont think that we should track every big transaction

[romero121]

Everything with cryptocurrencies were manipulative, upon the same at times due to whale move the market is manipulated. At times the same is done through speculations and circulating news feeds creating positive and negative impact over the market. Identifying whale move is really a hard task, and experts predict it good.

Large volume fund transactions were also predicted as whale move. Some of this is done intentionally to make changes in the market, while majority are just transactions.

[angrybirdy]

As i am looking at bitcoin chart now, BTC price just soared little bit in a short time.

It happened because of whale's move or not.

That is one thing, but as I have heard, we suddenly feel the dump in the market due to this coming Chinese New Year. Most crypto investors were probably selling their holdings due to this event.

Btw, can anybody identify whale's move? If there is a way to see it, is there a tip for it?


Thx!

There is no way to identify their movement. We really can't determine where their funds are circulating and it is like finding glass in the middle of the ocean. We can't even follow their move or see it anyway.

[Beparanf]

Whales are considered as investors that are able to give impact in the market if they invest a huge amount. Any individual who will invest huge amount can make the market price, and we don't know how to know or monitor them just simply try to analze the graphs if there's a chance to earn then grasps it.

[White Christmas]

Btw, can anybody identify whale's move? If there is a way to see it, is there a tip for it?

Thx!

Actually there is no any signs on how to identify if the whales are manipulating the market or not or if there is a sign it really hard for us to confirm if that doings is based on the whales of the cryptocurrency because we don't know on how they are manipulating it. It is kind of hard to know because the current market is really hard to predict even though the expert are anticipating and analyzing the flow of the market they don't even know if the market flows is just made by the whales or not.
It really hard to tell even the expert if the whale are starting to move in order to control the market or not.

[msarro]

As i am looking at bitcoin chart now, BTC price just soared little bit in a short time.

It happened because of whale's move or not.


Btw, can anybody identify whale's move? If there is a way to see it, is there a tip for it?


Thx!

Just swim with whales and you will get the benefit. Dont know which pumps are real and which one are backed by whales. Normally whale pumping is not easy to diagnose but abnormal behaviours like that of BSV are totally manipulation by whales.

[Capt00]

As i am looking at bitcoin chart now, BTC price just soared little bit in a short time.

It happened because of whale's move or not.


Btw, can anybody identify whale's move? If there is a way to see it, is there a tip for it?


Thx!

Well it went up a bit but it didn't soar because if we say soared meaning it has a significant increase in price, well atleast for me. Anyways, I don't this increase has something to do with whales because normally whales do large transactions which can shake people minds but who knows, no one can really tell what made it to went up really but I guess it is because of the upcoming halving that is why we are having a good price now.

[ethereumhunter]

It is not easy to identify the whale's move, and we cannot detect if the market moves are because of the whales. The whales themselves will not say to other people who know, and they let the public identify and guess. Maybe the whales do not make an entry on the pump and dump time because they are busy to make more money from another way. We don't know the real thing that happens at the market, and we only know that the market moves.

[amacar2]

Follow @whale_alert on twitter if you are really interested to know transactions involving large sum of bitcoin or crypto. Most of the time these large transaction might not cause any market movement but hype around it can cause fomo and panic. Its hard to predict market move or whale move just by looking at the amount being transferred between addresses.

[FairUser]

There are a few bots on twitter and telegram that can track whales moving BTC and USDT. But I think it does not work correctly in this market, it's all relative and reference for us to see. And I think the price is not affected by the movements of the whales, if it happened then I would have predicted it correctly many times in this market. Also the bitcoin price is recovering a bit after it went down to $ 8200, hopefully we can see the BTC price can go up from here. If it continues to go down in the next few days, it is difficult for it to reach $ 10,000 before halving

[kryptqnick]

As i am looking at bitcoin chart now, BTC price just soared little bit in a short time.

It happened because of whale's move or not.


Btw, can anybody identify whale's move? If there is a way to see it, is there a tip for it?


Thx!

I think it's pretty easy: there are NO WHALE MOVES on the market, so there's nothing to identify. Some price fluctuations are natural, others happen due to bad/good news, FOMO, FUD, and other similar things. Usually when something writes about a whale move is then turns out that an exchange decided to move their funds or something like that. There's nobody able to make a significant difference, and if some rich people can make these tiny changes, should we really bother looking into that? And in any case, it's not like we can do anything with such people or we should act differently when we are trading and the price changes because of a whale rather than because of bad news, right?

[ChrisPop]

There are definitely way to spot the institutional's investors footstamps in the market. For example you can look at volume climaxes. That usually represents buying or selling pressure from the "big pockets" entities out there. Also when you see candlestick wicks accompanied by volume many times it is just the professional traders at work - engineering liquidity for filling their orders.

There are many technical analysis tools to get at least a mere lookout on what the institutional traders are doing at any given time. Open interest is a gauge you might want to keep in sight as well.

[dothebeats]

That's somewhat difficult to discern right now IMO as rapid movement of the price plus sudden influx of volume cannot be attributed to whales playing in the market.we have had episodes of huge amounts of coins moving from point A to point B though no definite price movement has been seen nor recorded even after a couple of weeks.

With the huge amount of traders involved in this free market, I actually find it hard to believe that a whale can still control much of the market. Then again, who knows? Many of them have already done the most obvious thing in order to conceal their movements anyways, and that is to split what they have and do all the harmonic trading simultaneously.

[zenhu]

No, that can't. We can just see the trade's volume to analyst coin movement. I think its not making any sense if we just looking to whales move, its purely fundamental and technical factors that can make the prices move.

[TastyChillySauce00]

not even those whale alert twtter account could give exact information about whale move. the only best way is to know it from the price movement which actually defeat its main purpose of identifying whale move which is to predict the price in the future. I mean, even if there's method out there to identify whale move I'm sure they aren't just being dumb and get identified like that. They'd try to hid their movement by any means.

[Swordsoffreedom]

One sign that price is moving up or down because of one single person/organization is that price is changing only on one exchange and other exchanges then follow.

[hatshepsut93]

Whales are a boogeyman of Bitcoin's market, every time the price changes people start talking about whales, but they don't make any in-depth analysis, they don't make any investigations that would uncover these whales, instead people just make shitposts like "zomg the whales crashed the market again" - you can't know for sure if the price moved because of a single individual, a small group or if it was a result of thousands smaller traders. People in Bitcoin community love conspiracy theories, so it's no surprise that they created their own conspiracy theory about whales.

My advice is to stop caring about whales, all these "whale alerts" are useless and can be used to manipulate the suckers. Try to base your trading on quality TA, learn more about how Bitcoin works so you can judge its fundamentals, etc.

[pixie85]

As i am looking at bitcoin chart now, BTC price just soared little bit in a short time.

It happened because of whale's move or not.

This is easy to identify in some cases and very hard in other. That dump on January 23 was a whale move because how would you explain it otherwise? The price went down by $300 in just 30minutes  and somebody dumped 400BTC on Bitstamp in 3 minutes instantly taking the price down by $120.

It gets harder when that whale buys or sells many times a day putting pressure on the market but not dumping at all. You will never be sure who is doing what because exchanges will not disclose their users.

[DoublerHunter]

There's a lot of conspiracy theories out there about the whale in the market when the market price goes up, people start talking about the whale and also when it drop also a whale. No one knows who did a big transaction or a group of smaller transactions that become big and then call it a whale. Nevertheless, no one will give an exact answer to your question. If there is a chance that we will know the movement of a whale, we are also getting rich than them.

[oktana]

to identify their steps can be seen from the activities of large transaction movements that can be seen in telegram bots such as whale alerts, but can only be analyzed roughly whether it will affect or not.

the bitcoin price difference of around $ 200 or vice versa has an important effect for traders, especially if the price rises higher, this movement can also run from chart development naturally, not always from whale movements.

[Apened]

As i am looking at bitcoin chart now, BTC price just soared little bit in a short time.

It happened because of whale's move or not.


Btw, can anybody identify whale's move? If there is a way to see it, is there a tip for it?


Thx!

If there is a big amount of bitcoins or amount transfered from uknowm wallet to a big exchange there are many bots that you may use live to update you from time to time when a big amount of transactions was made the be careful on the market what might possibly to happen after that.

[Zemomtum]

Well, the whale move in itself is determined by the technical analysis and some fundamental news. They knew these things more than any trader and can easily read the psychology of traders. sometimes technical analysis might assist you to guest their movement right but not always

[samcrypto]

As i am looking at bitcoin chart now, BTC price just soared little bit in a short time.

It happened because of whale's move or not.


Btw, can anybody identify whale's move? If there is a way to see it, is there a tip for it?


Thx!

We will hear this kind of news if the whales move their funds out of an exchange but we can’t see them from a normal days. The short up trend is already an uptrend and we just failed to beat another resistance. We trade on a sideways so expect more pump and dump in short term. Its good to follow the whales, do this by searching for a coin that is pumping in short without having any big news.

[TIDOVEE]

to identify their steps can be seen from the activities of large transaction movements that can be seen in telegram bots such as whale alerts, but can only be analyzed roughly whether it will affect or not.

the bitcoin price difference of around $ 200 or vice versa has an important effect for traders, especially if the price rises higher, this movement can also run from chart development naturally, not always from whale movements.

Most times people don't understand what the whale itself is.
And that's why noticing it's movement is more difficult. When you see an heavy transaction usually at a time, that is whales movement. They are the rich investors that tend to have a massive Influence on the the transaction. You will have to study the market chat constantly to observe their movement. They can cause a crash on a project.based on their huge investment.

[Coin_trader]

Well, the whale move in itself is determined by the technical analysis and some fundamental news. They knew these things more than any trader and can easily read the psychology of traders. sometimes technical analysis might assist you to guest their movement right but not always

You can't identify it by the technical analysis itself since it's more on fundamental analysis. You can't determine on a chart that the movement is a whale move or just people rushing in to ride the waves. The best way is to combine TA to FA. You can use some big transaction tracker such as https://whale-alert.io/ to determine whale movement. If there is a sudden price jump before/after that big transaction then its definitely a whale movement. If no big transaction then there is big fluctuations in price then its general trader force.

Remember this. No whales left there funds on exchange. They always transfer it to there cold storage after the trade for safety purposes so its easy for them to track. Unless the exchange itself do the manipulation then it can't be track down.

[Savemore]

There is a way for you to know if there are whales who start accumulating positions and it is through volume. If the price is consolidating, then there are masive volumes per day and the price have only small movement then it is the time that whales are start buying and collecting positions in the market. Volume is important indicator and we can see those whales through reading volumes.

[Landak]

difficult to identify, if at a glance what we might know is from the pump/dump quickly in the last 24 hours. like what happened to bitcoin sv earlier this month, I guess that's also one of the big whales. if from a long-term analysis, it will be difficult to identify it. although there is already information from whales-alert.io but that also cannot provide certainty that the big whales will dump and the pump can be that just an ordinary transaction.

[nicolas1979]

Most whales moving before news and weekend, they create bait to invite people get involve with their transactions, after that your money will become their target. Crypto news is not like forex, need to built perspective before they eat your money and that's need time. No one can't identify whales but if play in event ( ICO, IEO, etc ) is just manipulation group ( not whales ), mostly they using telegram channel for communication and enter market in one shoot with all member fund, dump isn't?

[adroitful_one]

If you're watching an exchange and you notice one guy putting in a huge order, then do exactly the same thing he does. That tends to work well for me. You have to be careful and make sure it's one whale making the orders, but if you do, follow him. It's easier to do on some of the smaller coins with less volume since you can keep track of the orders easier. Buy when he buys, sell when he sells. There's a reason he has so much money.

[clickerz]

If you're watching an exchange and you notice one guy putting in a huge order, then do exactly the same thing he does. That tends to work well for me. You have to be careful and make sure it's one whale making the orders, but if you do, follow him. It's easier to do on some of the smaller coins with less volume since you can keep track of the orders easier. Buy when he buys, sell when he sells. There's a reason he has so much money.

That's what the usual indicator, a huge buy or sell order. But what if the guy made a staggering position in smaller amounts. Though it may result in a bigger total order sometimes it is not a guarantee its a whale moves. But yeah, a volume is a must to watch when trading.

[stomachgrowls]

As i am looking at bitcoin chart now, BTC price just soared little bit in a short time.
It happened because of whale's move or not.
Btw, can anybody identify whale's move? If there is a way to see it, is there a tip for it?
Thx!

Theres no way for you to find out and people do only know when its too late.Talking about charts then you can identify sell or buy orders that trying to wall out prices. Heres some good read https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=58638.0

Tips? Actually theres none but these kind of movement will really profit you out if you do know on how to utilize it.Dont focus too much on charts because most likely prices do react with sentiments that do pops out in the market and also this one might interest you in: https://www.tradingview.com/ideas/whales/

[Sadlife]

There's a way to find out on who's buying what or who's selling crypto. I guess some exchanges provides data/API or chart to show some of their big users movement but anonymously. You could also try whale-alert.io but there are tons of them and watching whales move their funds would surely burn your eyes and mind.

[Amel]

There is no specific way to identify whale steps, I myself only monitor prices every hour to see whale orders. If you are able to make bots, it's better to make bots to identify whale steps. You can take advantage of direct action or just a warning on your computer. Yeah, that's quite difficult because the whales are moving quickly supported by the number of traders on the market who are ontime.

[johnwest]

Whale Alert is the best way to get the latest update on a large amount transfer. They tweet about most of the top alts too. They even have their API's if you are a developer and creating your own bots. 

[Distinctin]

As i am looking at bitcoin chart now, BTC price just soared little bit in a short time.

It happened because of whale's move or not.


Btw, can anybody identify whale's move? If there is a way to see it, is there a tip for it?


Thx!

Don't make it a big deal for you mate. The market comes like that all the way it goes either going up or just it dumps. Whales have to surround but they are not in control of the market price and its changes. They have their own strategy, the same thing that we have...it all just happens that they have capabilities to make things work with them. But it doesn't mean that all of the happenings around can be put blame on them coz there is a lot of factors that could ever change its trends from time to time.

[boris singer]

Whale Alert is the best way to get the latest update on a large amount transfer. They tweet about most of the top alts too. They even have their API's if you are a developer and creating your own bots.  

I also often use it as a reference, information looks accurate about large nominal movements. A little analysis of the possibility of this movement begins with a notification about the number of usdt / usdc burned at the Incinerator, and we can see a few hours later will definitely be transferred to certain exchanges and affect the overall price of bitcoin.

[wajik-tempe]

As i am looking at bitcoin chart now, BTC price just soared little bit in a short time.

It happened because of whale's move or not.


Btw, can anybody identify whale's move? If there is a way to see it, is there a tip for it?


Thx!

It's hard for BTC because price could be pump and dump without any news or anything because it's worldwide and new investors could come without noticable, but if low volume coins with nothing good news or and the price could go 10%, there might be whales are pumping it to make a trap.

[FanEagle]

The whale alert twitter account is actually a good help for the movements if you only wonder about coins going one place to another, however if it is only the price you care about it still works. You can check that place and if there is a huge movement going on that is unexpected previously and something happens at the price like going up or down, you can usually attribute it to the price itself.

We have seen plenty of times when there was a move of 30k+ bitcoins from one place to another and price going down right afterwards, that is something we have caught with our own eyes before. Yet the trouble is to find when that will be an issue and when it is nothing important, there is plenty of whale movements that never impact crypto as well, they just change wallets time to time and if you are paranoid enough even that could scare you.

[spike420211]

Many times I tried to analyze the behavior of whales in individual coins, especially with regard to volumes, and each time nothing came out.
Everything seems pointless, so I quit this venture. The only thing you can focus on is how and when the whales gain their positions.

[LUCKMCFLY]

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You have to observe the volume, the volume gives a lot of information, you can also check the Long and Shorts charts, you can extract information from there. In many cases I usually use tensorcharts.com, because in this particular case the volume shown in green indicates purchase and sales red. If you are a user who has TradingView or Tensorcharts.com in a paid version, I recommend that you look for the Volume Profile, which is an excellent tool to see what may be happening, basically by combining all this information you can more or less intuit that it is happening, and then it is in you to make your respective analysis.

[wozzek23]

As i am looking at bitcoin chart now, BTC price just soared little bit in a short time.

It happened because of whale's move or not.


Btw, can anybody identify whale's move? If there is a way to see it, is there a tip for it?


Thx!

It's hard for BTC because price could be pump and dump without any news or anything because it's worldwide and new investors could come without noticable, but if low volume coins with nothing good news or and the price could go 10%, there might be whales are pumping it to make a trap.

Yes, lower volume coins are actually the targets of the whales as they can easily create bullish or bearish trap over those coins. New investors are the ones who get trapped in these traps and loose their money but the whales keep filling their pockets. Some group of extreme big whales might even play with the price of bitcoins if the amount they hold is larger than atleast 30% of the total volume.

This might give them huge benefits by creating bullish or bearish traps and a lot of investors might face loss in this. There are a lot of telegram bots which speculate each and every movement in the altcoin markets and keeps give us the latest updates so it is easy to predict the whale movements for those altcoins.

[Distinctin]

Hypes is one thing that whales will be doing. And it is pretty obvious to look at when a certain coin/s do skyrocket without any single factors that the market it has. Seeing its price moves instantly from $1 to $100, you'll be careful about that kind of scheme cause that meant to be a trap and it only gives you losses once hypes are getting over.

[GreatArkansas]

Whale Alert is the best way to get the latest update on a large amount transfer. They tweet about most of the top alts too. They even have their API's if you are a developer and creating your own bots. 

I think what's OP need is whale move on some exchanges which that twitter bot (Whale Alert) is impossible to track, since that twitter bot (Whale Alert) is only focusing on transaction happened on some blockchain network, like in Bitcoin network transfer from some bitcoin address to another address with some specific amount of being transferred.

But this is also good especially if there are some huge amounts being transferred from an unknown wallet to some exchange wallet, then it's possible that users who transfer the cryptocurrency in the exchange's address has something to do with, like selling it or use it to buy some cryptocurrency or just kidding, like to troll or whatsoever, we still don't know what is their motive.

[sheenshane]

I think what's OP need is whale move on some exchanges which that twitter bot (Whale Alert) is impossible to track, since that twitter bot (Whale Alert) is only focusing on transaction happened on some blockchain network, like in Bitcoin network transfer from some bitcoin address to another address with some specific amount of being transferred.

Upon reading on OP thread this what twitter account that comes up in my mind. The "whale alert" twitter account was actively posting a live tracking of large crypto transactions from any exchanges or any crypto wallets. At this moment they had a tweet about the transaction of 1,000 BTC transferred from wallet Xapo to exchange Bitstamp. They have great help to track down those largest transactions that related to whale's movement or those exchanges fund transfer. Just like what happens of those hacked incidences of exchange.

[mbakruroh]

No one can do that, even an expert will meet difficult road to identify them. Whales is smart person with big money to create monopoly in crypto world and I believe every world have it. They work alone and mostly using fundamental method to create speculation. They trade depend moment but the problem is they can generate address in million so look's natural, we can't track them.

[samuraijin]

if you understand and read the charts, I think you see that we should actually enter the bullish market now but there is no movement, that's how to identify whales where they are still playing and waiting for people who hold bitcoin in a bag to sell it cheap now with make them saturated with uncertain prices, to be honest even the price of $ 10k per bitcoin in 2020 is a cheap price in my opinion, but they have not played with it still gradually and slowly, so just wait now

[kotajikikox]

As i am looking at bitcoin chart now, BTC price just soared little bit in a short time.

It happened because of whale's move or not.


Btw, can anybody identify whale's move? If there is a way to see it, is there a tip for it?


Thx!

You can only identify whales movements after the effect take place in market because  no one knows when they will be buying or when they will sell.

Mostly they pump a certain currency to attract investors and after that they will withdraw the investment and small investors surely trapped inside and will sell at lower prices thats the way they manipulate market movements

[Shasha80]

There is no sure way to guess the movement of whales in the market, but usually the movement of whales is a little easy to recognize with
a little investigation I did. Although the answer will not be 100% accurate but at least in my experience, several times my guess is right.
The first step is usually if the price of cryptocurrency goes up, I check whether there is big news that can make the price go up or no,
second step do an analysis of whether it's time to go up or down . If the cryptocurrency price rises without cause, it's almost certain this
is a movement from whales.

[Joyawan13]

an increase in bitcoin can occur with whale movements, for example a sudden increase in bitcoin, but that does not mean an increase in the price of bitcoin is all because of the whale, the rise and fall of the price of bitcoin is not easy to predict, so suppose we want to invest or trade crypto, don't bother think of a sudden increase in bitcoin that can go up high and vice versa can also go down quickly. invest and trade while we want it and get profit with our own strategies and ways, and follow positive advice & methods from seniors and seniors here.

[tungaqhd]

As i am looking at bitcoin chart now, BTC price just soared little bit in a short time.

It happened because of whale's move or not.


Btw, can anybody identify whale's move? If there is a way to see it, is there a tip for it?


Thx!

There are some telegram channels which alert you when it found "whale move", one of them is "Whale F*ck" (* is u). It is pretty quick and correctly.

[Dart18]

A whale moves using his body and thru the waves of the water. 
Did I get it right?
Just kidding.

No one knows my dear.
It could be me or it could be you.
Who would know that both of us could manipulate the price?
If you have a lot of time to check all the address of those who have large amounts in their wallet then you are free to do so.
Check them with your daily routine.

[the rise]

make sure the spike stays at the same value, for example stays in ​​8400 or 8500 area, if this happens it can be ascertained because the real development of chart analysis is in accordance with many traders' predictions, whales cannot manipulate in this case, unless prices are immediately slammed hard in short time. No one can predict their movements unless bitcoin fails several times at the price of resistance and also applies when it fails to penetrate the price of support.

[dimonstration]

an increase in bitcoin can occur with whale movements, for example a sudden increase in bitcoin, but that does not mean an increase in the price of bitcoin is all because of the whale, the rise and fall of the price of bitcoin is not easy to predict, so suppose we want to invest or trade crypto, don't bother think of a sudden increase in bitcoin that can go up high and vice versa can also go down quickly. invest and trade while we want it and get profit with our own strategies and ways, and follow positive advice & methods from seniors and seniors here.

We will sure can identify when price suddenly increase without any news or FUD. But there is no way we can know when will they plan to do it. They may spread FUD but they might be too many to know whether they will try to manipulate the market. It will depend on how much they will buy and sell that will affect the market.

[The Cryptovator]

Identify whales movement exactly isn't possible. Because really we don't know who are whales. But usually predictors guess whales moved based on buy order. There is also another way they guess, when big amount move from/to the exchange. I think that's the only way for guesses, I don't know/believe if there is any. Also something happen when big amount of fund move or increase buy pressure. I have seen some case btc go little up sometimes after such as news. I am in few signa group and noticed from there although I don't followed them.

[rijaljun]

As i am looking at bitcoin chart now, BTC price just soared little bit in a short time.
It happened because of whale's move or not.
Btw, can anybody identify whale's move? If there is a way to see it, is there a tip for it?
Thx!

Unfortunately to know what whales gonna do in an exchange is almost impossible, you don't know who the whales, what their position. But, there is a twitter account (https://twitter.com/whale_alert) that will inform you if there is  big money transferred to or from exchanges which can be an indication for you that something's gonna happen.

[ballerin and giroud]

If you want know this stuff then you must know who whales is. There is no information against it in my opinion, their movement cannot be guessed easily unless there is good information against the market then you will see they will buy a lot of bitcoin and its otherwise you will know as well when there is bad information then you will see the whales will sell their bitcoin to avoid getting lose. Actually you can use this startegy to know the market movement although it is not really accurate.

[Baoo]

Not really sure if we can expect the next move of the whales, the market is volatile and we barely see a stability, and it is really disappointing due to the whole market and even the media are controlled by the whales or capitalists, they are like the wolves and unfortunatley  the traders are like the sheep.
Plus, we just need to exploit  any opportunity wisely ( big pump, or dip ) that's how we can make a profit specifically in a long term. Try to ignore that media news or information especially in Twitter, Facebook and some websites related to cryptocurrencies.

[BuNga_cute]

It is very difficult to identify whales movements, as far as I know, whales can be identified with our instincts.But  too risk to do.
And also we can use the help of bots, later we will be given a alert signal if the whales are moving. Both methods are mentioned
have their respective risks. But for me to predict whales movement from paying attention to price movements in the market, if
prices suddenly go down or go up, it's possible manipulation by whales. Because if the market moves normally it's usually readable
through the analysis that we do or at least there is big news that affects prices in the market.

[Bim abk]

It is very difficult to identify whales movements, as far as I know, whales can be identified with our instincts.But  too risk to do.
And also we can use the help of bots, later we will be given a alert signal if the whales are moving. Both methods are mentioned
have their respective risks. But for me to predict whales movement from paying attention to price movements in the market, if
prices suddenly go down or go up, it's possible manipulation by whales. Because if the market moves normally it's usually readable
through the analysis that we do or at least there is big news that affects prices in the market.

indeed it will be difficult to identify the price manipulation movements made by the pope, sometimes they manipulate by making periodic buy with small amounts, and making price movements that make people provoked and when the price reaches their goal of selling large quantities and making dumps. This is very difficult to see, especially if the manipulation is done in stages.

[gabbie2010]

As i am looking at bitcoin chart now, BTC price just soared little bit in a short time.
It happened because of whale's move or not.
Btw, can anybody identify whale's move? If there is a way to see it, is there a tip for it?
Thx!

Unfortunately to know what whales gonna do in an exchange is almost impossible, you don't know who the whales, what their position. But, there is a twitter account (https://twitter.com/whale_alert) that will inform you if there is  big money transferred to or from exchanges which can be an indication for you that something's gonna happen.

I believed whale_alert would help to caution hodlers or traders of any possible dump in price however predicting the exact time the whales would start the manipulations is quite difficult to know.
Meanwhile some expert traders usually capitalize on time of dumping or pumping by the whales to make some quick bucks this requires some level of expertise to make such profits.

[ReiMomo]

That is right, manipulation of the crypto market is quite not easy to know. Yes, it could be tracked by the whale alert twitter account but that is a general transaction and we dont know who is the whale or big investors. The most transaction that I have seen on the twitter account of whale alert has come from exchange. Of course, it will transfer a quite big amount for their business. For me, whale move is can't identify whether whale or not.

[marilynmanson21]

it is very difficult to identify whales, because their movements are planned, so it is not possible to identify their steps, but if you want to see whale transactions, you can join the "whale alert" channel, usually there will be updates on whale wallet transactions,

[BitcoinHunt3r]

Maybe if price already pumped, people will know after pumped. Because whale itself if they are really exist wouldn't tell people they will pump the price or not. If me usually i follow rumour that come about bitcoin. Because although still a rumour, bitcoin price already pumped because of it. And then people will make their decision when real event that rumoured come.

[posi]

A whale moves using his body and thru the waves of the water. 
Did I get it right?
Just kidding.
No one knows my dear.

Experienced crypto day traders who have an insider in the whales club or who following every huge purchase and sells does know how to identify whales move. Besides, whales alert also do a pretty good job in knowing the whales moves.

It could be me or it could be you.
Who would know that both of us could manipulate the price?
If you have a lot of time to check all the address of those who have large amounts in their wallet then you are free to do so.
Check them with your daily routine.

You might be right but manipulating the price of crypto market is not something easy as you think because before some could manipulated the price of a market some person to have the purchase of at least 5% of current total circulated supply.

[iv4n]

Here is the list of top 100 richest bitcoin addresses. You can follow these addresses and maybe you will catch a transaction to some exchange and then you can be sure that whale is ready to make a move. I think this is a waste of time, but that is my opinion. Following buy and sell orders is almost the same, and you will need less effort for that. Of course I wouldn't relay just on one source when making decision about my trade. Information's are everywhere around, putting them together is a problem.

[Distinctin]

Here is the list of top 100 richest bitcoin addresses. You can follow these addresses and maybe you will catch a transaction to some exchange and then you can be sure that whale is ready to make a move. I think this is a waste of time, but that is my opinion. Following buy and sell orders is almost the same, and you will need less effort for that. Of course I wouldn't relay just on one source when making decision about my trade. Information's are everywhere around, putting them together is a problem.

I would like to see the list also and it maybe it helps me to track them by then.

I think they are hard to track, not even we have the list and see them transacting big amount will just fall into whales performing hypes again. Its something we need to find out and dig deeper about their trx. It may be we could have some sort of awareness if we belong to their group or something that we've been in attached to them as a follower or whatever it is.

[jostorres]

There are whales already accumulated at the huge buy or sell orders.
Most of the whales might be using trading bots to diversify their orders according to the price movement.
But, usually whenever I see huge buy or sell orders and if the trading volume rises eventually in larger amount than whales might be on the market.

This must be a sign but diversifying their capital into smaller amounts would never let us know when they make a movement.

Understanding the markets needs some study about the patters and graphs. Even the whales do study the graph so they plan their buy and sell orders eventually. This makes us possible to predict the price whales will enter or exit.

[Republikcoin.com]

the only signal we have at the moment is halving. before or after halving, there will definitely be a large enough pump whether it's for bitcoin or for the altcoin. however, there are many signs to identify the presence of whales, only they are only limited to predictions. however, for current conditions, halving is more than just a prediction.

[Xxmodded]

the only signal we have at the moment is halving. before or after halving, there will definitely be a large enough pump whether it's for bitcoin or for the altcoin. however, there are many signs to identify the presence of whales, only they are only limited to predictions. however, for current conditions, halving is more than just a prediction.

When halving time is coming many people become smart prediction with bitcoin and altcoin price because they have most accurate and correct predicting with bitcoin and altcoin price, not have to learn with bitcoin chart because absolutely bitcoin will go on to higher price and keep profitable for every investors.

[Latviand]

Many times I tried to analyze the behavior of whales in individual coins, especially with regard to volumes, and each time nothing came out.
Everything seems pointless, so I quit this venture. The only thing you can focus on is how and when the whales gain their positions.

This simply proves how volatile the market is and whale movements cannot be determined or identified. It does depend on the whales whether they would move out their large holdings of Bitcoins from an exchanger to another exchanger or whatsoever. What i am pointing out is that, they have their own perfect timing of doing so because the market is way unpredictable and also, whales cannot take full control of the market , but they would be able to move the price for a short period of time.

[iv4n]

Here is the list of top 100 richest bitcoin addresses. You can follow these addresses and maybe you will catch a transaction to some exchange and then you can be sure that whale is ready to make a move. I think this is a waste of time, but that is my opinion. Following buy and sell orders is almost the same, and you will need less effort for that. Of course I wouldn't relay just on one source when making decision about my trade. Information's are everywhere around, putting them together is a problem.

I would like to see the list also and it maybe it helps me to track them by then.

I think they are hard to track, not even we have the list and see them transacting big amount will just fall into whales performing hypes again. Its something we need to find out and dig deeper about their trx. It may be we could have some sort of awareness if we belong to their group or something that we've been in attached to them as a follower or whatever it is.

I'm really sorry, only now I see that I didn't provide the link to site with those addresses, here it is https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-bitcoin-addresses.html. There are other sites with similar info, you can search for them. This is the one of the good ones, I can try to find other good ones, I have them somewhere in history.

[karanggatak]

I think it will be very difficult to predict whale movements because bitcoin is anonymous. We don't know who the whales are. we can only guess that when bitcoin suddenly goes up or down without any news or anything that can affect the price of bitcoin. then surely that is the motion of the popes.

[el kaka22]

We can't really predict it but we can identify it, that is very different from each other. If you ask me when will a whale make a move or what is about to happen I wouldn't know a lick about it, how could I know because no whale comes up to me and tells me when they will make a move.

However, if we are talking about a whale move, you can literally check the movements in the market and if there is a huge move in a very quick manner, 90%+ chance it is a whale, it is very very rare that thousands of people will get together and make the market move in a minute, but the market moving in a minute a lot would mean one guy (or bunch of rich people who talk to each other) would actually make sense, those guys know what they are doing and always have some sort of synchronized moves together.

[Cimmy_revenger]

I don't know how to identify this whale transaction or not, even though the transaction is indeed very large.
but what will be the effect if the balance goes into exchange ?
make a bluff or really make a change.

[alisonwonder]

I don't know how to identify this whale transaction or not, even though the transaction is indeed very large.
but what will be the effect if the balance goes into exchange ?
make a bluff or really make a change.

there is a twitter account that always provides transaction information in large numbers, maybe that's what the said Whale. but if it's sent to exchange there's always FUD and we don't know whether it has an effect or not. but it should have an effect not just displacement.

[ultrloa]

Actually it's very hard to identify the actual whale move since there's no live stats given and most provably those whales don't want to show that since they can manipulated if they will(but that just my opinion) maybe try your best to became a good trader and don't rely on whale fuds.

[Golftech]

I don't know how to identify this whale transaction or not, even though the transaction is indeed very large.
but what will be the effect if the balance goes into exchange ?
make a bluff or really make a change.

there is a twitter account that always provides transaction information in large numbers, maybe that's what the said Whale. but if it's sent to exchange there's always FUD and we don't know whether it has an effect or not. but it should have an effect not just displacement.

Those kinds of transactions mostly used by big investors to manipulate the market, it's tough to know which directions it might go since
whales are very good in playing with investors/ traders emotions. They have all the time to assess and observe if what the possible
next  target, be careful playing with those so called whales they always have second options.

[alisonwonder]

I don't know how to identify this whale transaction or not, even though the transaction is indeed very large.
but what will be the effect if the balance goes into exchange ?
make a bluff or really make a change.

there is a twitter account that always provides transaction information in large numbers, maybe that's what the said Whale. but if it's sent to exchange there's always FUD and we don't know whether it has an effect or not. but it should have an effect not just displacement.

Those kinds of transactions mostly used by big investors to manipulate the market, it's tough to know which directions it might go since
whales are very good in playing with investors/ traders emotions. They have all the time to assess and observe if what the possible
next  target, be careful playing with those so called whales they always have second options.

sometimes the information they tweet is very detailed sent from the wallet to the exchanger for, but you're right it will still be difficult to predict, maybe it's a manipulation or indeed a real buying like this is happening right now that is bullish.

[Oasisman]

Those kinds of transactions mostly used by big investors to manipulate the market, it's tough to know which directions it might go since
whales are very good in playing with investors/ traders emotions. They have all the time to assess and observe if what the possible
next  target, be careful playing with those so called whales they always have second options.

Safe thing to do to ride the whales pump is to buy cheap and hold it long term. Not unless if you're an expert trader who's expert in following the market sentiments and momentum. Specially, now that the block halving event will drag a lot of investors attention to accumulate more Bitcoin and other alts, since the news and trend seems to be bullish as a definition of the outcome from the past halving.

[kapalmabur]

actually it can be done, I follow a special channel in the telegram called 'whalebotalert', maybe it can help if you as a trader, I use it and it is good, usually the price goes up when there is a notification when there is a large USDT fund going into Bitcoin, try use it

[rodskee]

your first post is this

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5216355.msg53567055#msg53567055

ANN thread of Bispex

and the next is you are promoting this team that launched a airdrop and you have gained something like that.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5217077.msg53589832#msg53589832

and here you are asking about that Bispex exchange?obvious that you are the Dev of this and a simple advertising is what you are doing here right?why not answer your own question about that exchange?because for sure you have the best answer from your questions.

[SaShiRaJaVu]

We can't really predict it but we can identify it, that is very different from each other. If you ask me when will a whale make a move or what is about to happen I wouldn't know a lick about it, how could I know because no whale comes up to me and tells me when they will make a move.

There are teams that used to monitor the whale transaction and they used to spread the FUD once in a while when exchanges start moving the coins too, so it is hard to identify huge whale transactions all the time. The synchronized moves does not happen in the market with major coins and it will happen in small coins with small valuation.

 

[btccashacc]

Nah, we can't do that, this is the hardest thing to do, at least you know a guy or a bunch of people who holds a lot of bitcoins, to be honest we don't know who's behind that address. Anyway I believe as time goes by, there will be more people get into the bitcoin and leads to these whales loosing their power. So we as a small trader don't have to worry about are they going to pump or dump the price.

[kentrolla]

I don't think this pump was due to any whales move and I think we need to focus more on market situations than whale's move because we have no idea what will be their next move and we can only identify it by the way market trends, so we are better of closely monitoring the market and price trend than going after the reason for soar or dump.

[GuyFromBarcelona]

yo can't predict what decisions other person is going to make.  that it's only in films.. you can make a guess, but will be just luck.

[STT]

Your experiencing a common human flaw which is to place a human face on every natural phenomena, the world is larger then just us.   A big move doesnt have to be a big person moving a piece on a chess board, it can be the accumulation of a million people and their feelings towards worth of cash or various assets vs the secure transaction accessible across the internet that Bitcoin represents.
    I'm certain its not about whales, its a flock movement like the way sparrows fly or fish swim in sequence effected by each other in time but also as a group hence seperate units can appear as one.    I would label this as consensus opinion which moves in waves usually, to have BTC backed into thousands of value like this is more faith then any thought would occur but here we are.   Its not whales alone, they cannot move the ocean.

[FanEagle]

Big whales would never play blind as the new traders do because they only invest if their research permits them to. Big whales have been making TA and would only enter or exit the markets accordingly.

Now, how is it possible for you to predict their movements? The most simple answer from my side would be for you to start understanding the graphs and implying the patters and strategies onto the graph to show you further movements. You can predict the future price of any coin if you made some.

Technical Analysis and if you have the ability to understand the graphs. You can even predict at which point big whales would enter or exit by considering some of the large buy/sell orders. Big whales never buy or sell coins at the current market value. They always set buy and sell orders above or below the market price by making their own research.

[tbterryboy]

yo can't predict what decisions other person is going to make.  that it's only in films.. you can make a guess, but will be just luck.

Not actually only our luck will play in this situation. Our research and our knowledge about the trading markets would be most useful in this case. What most of the newbies think is that they could never predict the future for any coin and it makes them buy or sell at the price they could feel reliable just by speculating few buy and sell orders, volume, etc.

These few things would never help you to buy at a correct price as you would need a lot of other strategies which would help you to find better price for yourself to invest. Even the big whales are human beings and god has given them the same brain as we have so why not utilize it like them? Even you can find where the big whales might enter or exit if you have the ability to spend hours of your day in making huge research in front of your desktop.

[criza]

yo can't predict what decisions other person is going to make.  that it's only in films.. you can make a guess, but will be just luck.

Not actually only our luck will play in this situation. Our research and our knowledge about the trading markets would be most useful in this case. What most of the newbies think is that they could never predict the future for any coin and it makes them buy or sell at the price they could feel reliable just by speculating few buy and sell orders, volume, etc.

These few things would never help you to buy at a correct price as you would need a lot of other strategies which would help you to find better price for yourself to invest. Even the big whales are human beings and god has given them the same brain as we have so why not utilize it like them? Even you can find where the big whales might enter or exit if you have the ability to spend hours of your day in making huge research in front of your desktop.

Indeed, knowledge and being wise are two of the important things a trader or an investor should have because, without it, you would just be drifting into the market and is not capable to see the possible and potential coins that might rise or bloom in the future. A lot of people have earned a lot of profit by learning all about the current trends and new coins available in the market, so it recommendable for the newbies to first read about the basics and fundamentals in the market before engaging in trading or investments for them to avoid such risk.

Whales would mostly consists of a group of people dealing with various cryptocurrency or Bitcoin in the market, they own a lot of stock in it, you could see its movement mostly if someone sold a large volume of Bitcoin in the market, which could really affect the standing of a coin in the market.

[adaseb]

Don't know if any of you guys trade on Bitmex, but apparently there was a spoofer who kept placing these 20M-50M orders from time to time leading up to the peak in February.

Basically it was so apparent it was a spoof and most people assumed that since it was a large bid, he had a larger offer somewhere and the market would tank, however the complete opposite happened and we kept going up and up. Many people tried to countertrade him and ended up with huge losses.

I think he found a way to trick some algos because whenever the large bid appeared in a bull trend, almost immediately price would spike up $5-$10 or so. So far haven't seem him back yet.

[BlackFor3st]

As i am looking at bitcoin chart now, BTC price just soared little bit in a short time.

It happened because of whale's move or not.


Btw, can anybody identify whale's move? If there is a way to see it, is there a tip for it?

And has anyone experienced BISPEX exchange known as its insurance funding?


Thx!

It is pretty difficult to identify the whales move but if you will just follow the market closely without thinking any negative then you can have a useful information as your basis to check if it was being done by whales or just a trespassing traders that wants to play with the market.

As what I observed, most of the whales are holding their assets for a long term one and they have people to spread a lot of hype in order to boost the market condition. Aside from it, I didn't experience yet any big whales that are playing with the market condition like the big whales are trading daily or weekly. But as what I observed with the market, it is within it's normal condition as the dip is not that big and not that long also.

[okala]

As i am looking at bitcoin chart now, BTC price just soared little bit in a short time.

It happened because of whale's move or not.


Btw, can anybody identify whale's move? If there is a way to see it, is there a tip for it?

And has anyone experienced BISPEX exchange known as its insurance funding?


Thx!

You should go and make money and become one of the whales. You can define the movement of any coins I you can generate 50% of it volumes. It is very difficult to become whales if you are not one of them. The reason why their are making is because majority of the traders don't know or have knowledge on what the whales do!

[justdimin]

Rich people usually can afford stuff like that. When you have 20-50 million to put on bitmex and try to profit from it, you will have a bigger chance of a success compared to a person who puts up 20-50 dollars in total. The amount of money that is required to move the whole market up or down is a lot but when you have that type of money you can wager on bitcoin to go up and actually take it up yourself as well all leading up to you making a lot more money.

All in all being a whale helps you trade even in bitcoin world and it has always been a great deal in stock markets, look at Warren Buffet, whatever that dude buys goes up because he is both famous and rich enough to buy a ton of it to make it go up just from buying.

[adaseb]

Rich people usually can afford stuff like that. When you have 20-50 million to put on bitmex and try to profit from it, you will have a bigger chance of a success compared to a person who puts up 20-50 dollars in total. The amount of money that is required to move the whole market up or down is a lot but when you have that type of money you can wager on bitcoin to go up and actually take it up yourself as well all leading up to you making a lot more money.

All in all being a whale helps you trade even in bitcoin world and it has always been a great deal in stock markets, look at Warren Buffet, whatever that dude buys goes up because he is both famous and rich enough to buy a ton of it to make it go up just from buying.

Yes but keep in mind that the whales that make these 20-50 million dollar bids/asks they always have a risk incase some other whale takes that trade for them. There were times in the past when some whale was spoofing and he got caught on the other side of the market when some other whale just as large just took his bid or offer because he wanted to take profit. Then what does he do?

Warren Buffet might be rich but the stock doesn't go up just because he buys it. Most of the stocks he hold he held for many many years and even if he was a buyer he wouldn't be doing a market buy. He just holds many of his positions due to dividends and because the stock value will result in more money than keeping cash in a savings account. I don't think Warren Buffet is someone who pumps and dumps stocks.

[xvids]

Rich people usually can afford stuff like that. When you have 20-50 million to put on bitmex and try to profit from it, you will have a bigger chance of a success compared to a person who puts up 20-50 dollars in total. The amount of money that is required to move the whole market up or down is a lot but when you have that type of money you can wager on bitcoin to go up and actually take it up yourself as well all leading up to you making a lot more money.

All in all being a whale helps you trade even in bitcoin world and it has always been a great deal in stock markets, look at Warren Buffet, whatever that dude buys goes up because he is both famous and rich enough to buy a ton of it to make it go up just from buying.

Yes but keep in mind that the whales that make these 20-50 million dollar bids/asks they always have a risk incase some other whale takes that trade for them. There were times in the past when some whale was spoofing and he got caught on the other side of the market when some other whale just as large just took his bid or offer because he wanted to take profit. Then what does he do?

Warren Buffet might be rich but the stock doesn't go up just because he buys it. Most of the stocks he hold he held for many many years and even if he was a buyer he wouldn't be doing a market buy. He just holds many of his positions due to dividends and because the stock value will result in more money than keeping cash in a savings account. I don't think Warren Buffet is someone who pumps and dumps stocks.

This is why I like Bitcoin or crypto the price couldn't easily be manipulated.
It takes some huge amount to create a movement and if their plan didn't work then it would be a huge loss for the whales.
They could create some FUD and FOMO by moving their crypto but if people wouldn't care about it or ignore it then nothing would happen.
We are the one who is creating this price pump and dump every one is contributing to it so don't blame the whales or other things.

[buwaytress]

Yes but keep in mind that the whales that make these 20-50 million dollar bids/asks they always have a risk incase some other whale takes that trade for them. There were times in the past when some whale was spoofing and he got caught on the other side of the market when some other whale just as large just took his bid or offer because he wanted to take profit. Then what does he do?

Or, it could simply be the exchange whales telling each other, hey, let's benefit from a bit of shifting around. It shows that volume's good on our platforms, it shows also that whales and rich peeps trust us, and it only costs us a few dollars after a few txs. It's not like these whales don't know each other too, even if they're not at exchanges. The community would have been really small back when people were mining and sending to each other.

[Golftech]

Rich people usually can afford stuff like that. When you have 20-50 million to put on bitmex and try to profit from it, you will have a bigger chance of a success compared to a person who puts up 20-50 dollars in total. The amount of money that is required to move the whole market up or down is a lot but when you have that type of money you can wager on bitcoin to go up and actually take it up yourself as well all leading up to you making a lot more money.

All in all being a whale helps you trade even in bitcoin world and it has always been a great deal in stock markets, look at Warren Buffet, whatever that dude buys goes up because he is both famous and rich enough to buy a ton of it to make it go up just from buying.

Having such amount of investment and the right knowledge to use gives you all the opportunities to move  the market according to your plan directions.
Most of the time whales are creating artificial movements, testing the emotions of each traders around, they've got enough funding and strategy to try and checked how things will work for them to make more money out from the hands of those small players.
It's tough to follow them as they can changed right after their first move since they still got the money to use to switch from one direction to another.

[pooya87]

Rich people usually can afford stuff like that. When you have 20-50 million to put on bitmex and try to profit from it, you will have a bigger chance of a success compared to a person who puts up 20-50 dollars in total. The amount of money that is required to move the whole market up or down is a lot but when you have that type of money you can wager on bitcoin to go up and actually take it up yourself as well all leading up to you making a lot more money.

All in all being a whale helps you trade even in bitcoin world and it has always been a great deal in stock markets, look at Warren Buffet, whatever that dude buys goes up because he is both famous and rich enough to buy a ton of it to make it go up just from buying.

Having such amount of investment and the right knowledge to use gives you all the opportunities to move  the market according to your plan directions.
Most of the time whales are creating artificial movements, testing the emotions of each traders around, they've got enough funding and strategy to try and checked how things will work for them to make more money out from the hands of those small players.
It's tough to follow them as they can changed right after their first move since they still got the money to use to switch from one direction to another.

it is not as easy as it may look like. in fact a lot of whales have gone broke trying to manipulate the market. for example during 2017 i have seen many bear whales who tried going against the market and manipulate it to push it down but they were crushed under the sheer amount of total buy strength that they lost a lot of money in the process.

[Lecam]

As i am looking at bitcoin chart now, BTC price just soared little bit in a short time.

It happened because of whale's move or not.


Btw, can anybody identify whale's move? If there is a way to see it, is there a tip for it?

And has anyone experienced BISPEX exchange known as its insurance funding?


Thx!

No one can identify whale move because we don't know who's the whale I think there's a lot of whale so we don't know if that movement do whale. I think trader can also do movement when they are buying more bitcoin.
Bispex its my first time heard that you can search it very well before you gonna do fund it.

[carlfebz2]

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Thx!

No one can identify whale move because we don't know who's the whale I think there's a lot of whale so we don't know if that movement do whale. I think trader can also do movement when they are buying more bitcoin.
Bispex its my first time heard that you can search it very well before you gonna do fund it.

Whale moves can really be detect out when its already too late or the price do already reacts due to their actions this is why its really hard

to determine or spot it out when they are just still planning or tending to make a move and in times of such event its either you do go along with those
movements or fully contradicts.

Whales are normal on any market and due to their financial capability they do really have a big impact towards market possible next movements.

[adaseb]

Yes but keep in mind that the whales that make these 20-50 million dollar bids/asks they always have a risk incase some other whale takes that trade for them. There were times in the past when some whale was spoofing and he got caught on the other side of the market when some other whale just as large just took his bid or offer because he wanted to take profit. Then what does he do?

Or, it could simply be the exchange whales telling each other, hey, let's benefit from a bit of shifting around. It shows that volume's good on our platforms, it shows also that whales and rich peeps trust us, and it only costs us a few dollars after a few txs. It's not like these whales don't know each other too, even if they're not at exchanges. The community would have been really small back when people were mining and sending to each other.

No I don't think its the whales who are telling each other by posting large bids/asks. Honestly I am pretty sure there are tons of whales out there that trade against themselves. Whales aren't worried about small retail traders front-running them but they would be more concerned about some large whale which takes their orders and profits instead of them.

The reason why the spoofs are there is because its most likely to trick bots. I noticed 2 things. When in an up-trend there is a large bid that appears close to the fair value, then usually within a few seconds there is a large amount of market buys that are executed. This can be very profitable if you are fast.

Second thing is that in a down-trend, when there is a large bid that is all of a sudden removed from the market, usually there is a market selling that is going on. Many people notice this and they set bots so they catch the action. However keep in mind, sometimes these might be traps.

[buwaytress]

No I don't think its the whales who are telling each other by posting large bids/asks. Honestly I am pretty sure there are tons of whales out there that trade against themselves. Whales aren't worried about small retail traders front-running them but they would be more concerned about some large whale which takes their orders and profits instead of them.

The reason why the spoofs are there is because its most likely to trick bots. I noticed 2 things. When in an up-trend there is a large bid that appears close to the fair value, then usually within a few seconds there is a large amount of market buys that are executed. This can be very profitable if you are fast.

Well, we can only speculate, but old money does tend to talk to each other, and it's to avoid that kind of risk of falling for other whales sniping that'll motivate them to seek out each other for mutual benefit.

In any case, I wonder why no one talks about Spoofy anymore. All that speculation before, surprised no one doxed Spoofy to the end, or did that already happen? Or what about that botnet that got crippled I think back in 2018. I'm sure it's built up to previous numbers by now.

[Saisher]

As i am looking at bitcoin chart now, BTC price just soared little bit in a short time.

It happened because of whale's move or not.


Btw, can anybody identify whale's move? If there is a way to see it, is there a tip for it?


Thx!

What happen this week can be considered a whale move with over 12000 Bitcoin dump it has huge impact in the market and until now the market is down, although in the process of recovering, people can easily trace where the dump is happening because it is traceable on the exchange