Can you guys identify Whale move?

[Golftech]

Rich people usually can afford stuff like that. When you have 20-50 million to put on bitmex and try to profit from it, you will have a bigger chance of a success compared to a person who puts up 20-50 dollars in total. The amount of money that is required to move the whole market up or down is a lot but when you have that type of money you can wager on bitcoin to go up and actually take it up yourself as well all leading up to you making a lot more money.

All in all being a whale helps you trade even in bitcoin world and it has always been a great deal in stock markets, look at Warren Buffet, whatever that dude buys goes up because he is both famous and rich enough to buy a ton of it to make it go up just from buying.

Having such amount of investment and the right knowledge to use gives you all the opportunities to move  the market according to your plan directions.
Most of the time whales are creating artificial movements, testing the emotions of each traders around, they've got enough funding and strategy to try and checked how things will work for them to make more money out from the hands of those small players.
It's tough to follow them as they can changed right after their first move since they still got the money to use to switch from one direction to another.

[pooya87]

Rich people usually can afford stuff like that. When you have 20-50 million to put on bitmex and try to profit from it, you will have a bigger chance of a success compared to a person who puts up 20-50 dollars in total. The amount of money that is required to move the whole market up or down is a lot but when you have that type of money you can wager on bitcoin to go up and actually take it up yourself as well all leading up to you making a lot more money.

All in all being a whale helps you trade even in bitcoin world and it has always been a great deal in stock markets, look at Warren Buffet, whatever that dude buys goes up because he is both famous and rich enough to buy a ton of it to make it go up just from buying.

Having such amount of investment and the right knowledge to use gives you all the opportunities to move  the market according to your plan directions.
Most of the time whales are creating artificial movements, testing the emotions of each traders around, they've got enough funding and strategy to try and checked how things will work for them to make more money out from the hands of those small players.
It's tough to follow them as they can changed right after their first move since they still got the money to use to switch from one direction to another.

it is not as easy as it may look like. in fact a lot of whales have gone broke trying to manipulate the market. for example during 2017 i have seen many bear whales who tried going against the market and manipulate it to push it down but they were crushed under the sheer amount of total buy strength that they lost a lot of money in the process.

[Lecam]

As i am looking at bitcoin chart now, BTC price just soared little bit in a short time.

It happened because of whale's move or not.


Btw, can anybody identify whale's move? If there is a way to see it, is there a tip for it?

And has anyone experienced BISPEX exchange known as its insurance funding?


Thx!

No one can identify whale move because we don't know who's the whale I think there's a lot of whale so we don't know if that movement do whale. I think trader can also do movement when they are buying more bitcoin.
Bispex its my first time heard that you can search it very well before you gonna do fund it.

[carlfebz2]

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Thx!

No one can identify whale move because we don't know who's the whale I think there's a lot of whale so we don't know if that movement do whale. I think trader can also do movement when they are buying more bitcoin.
Bispex its my first time heard that you can search it very well before you gonna do fund it.

Whale moves can really be detect out when its already too late or the price do already reacts due to their actions this is why its really hard

to determine or spot it out when they are just still planning or tending to make a move and in times of such event its either you do go along with those
movements or fully contradicts.

Whales are normal on any market and due to their financial capability they do really have a big impact towards market possible next movements.

[adaseb]

Yes but keep in mind that the whales that make these 20-50 million dollar bids/asks they always have a risk incase some other whale takes that trade for them. There were times in the past when some whale was spoofing and he got caught on the other side of the market when some other whale just as large just took his bid or offer because he wanted to take profit. Then what does he do?

Or, it could simply be the exchange whales telling each other, hey, let's benefit from a bit of shifting around. It shows that volume's good on our platforms, it shows also that whales and rich peeps trust us, and it only costs us a few dollars after a few txs. It's not like these whales don't know each other too, even if they're not at exchanges. The community would have been really small back when people were mining and sending to each other.

No I don't think its the whales who are telling each other by posting large bids/asks. Honestly I am pretty sure there are tons of whales out there that trade against themselves. Whales aren't worried about small retail traders front-running them but they would be more concerned about some large whale which takes their orders and profits instead of them.

The reason why the spoofs are there is because its most likely to trick bots. I noticed 2 things. When in an up-trend there is a large bid that appears close to the fair value, then usually within a few seconds there is a large amount of market buys that are executed. This can be very profitable if you are fast.

Second thing is that in a down-trend, when there is a large bid that is all of a sudden removed from the market, usually there is a market selling that is going on. Many people notice this and they set bots so they catch the action. However keep in mind, sometimes these might be traps.

[buwaytress]

No I don't think its the whales who are telling each other by posting large bids/asks. Honestly I am pretty sure there are tons of whales out there that trade against themselves. Whales aren't worried about small retail traders front-running them but they would be more concerned about some large whale which takes their orders and profits instead of them.

The reason why the spoofs are there is because its most likely to trick bots. I noticed 2 things. When in an up-trend there is a large bid that appears close to the fair value, then usually within a few seconds there is a large amount of market buys that are executed. This can be very profitable if you are fast.

Well, we can only speculate, but old money does tend to talk to each other, and it's to avoid that kind of risk of falling for other whales sniping that'll motivate them to seek out each other for mutual benefit.

In any case, I wonder why no one talks about Spoofy anymore. All that speculation before, surprised no one doxed Spoofy to the end, or did that already happen? Or what about that botnet that got crippled I think back in 2018. I'm sure it's built up to previous numbers by now.

[Saisher]

As i am looking at bitcoin chart now, BTC price just soared little bit in a short time.

It happened because of whale's move or not.


Btw, can anybody identify whale's move? If there is a way to see it, is there a tip for it?


Thx!

What happen this week can be considered a whale move with over 12000 Bitcoin dump it has huge impact in the market and until now the market is down, although in the process of recovering, people can easily trace where the dump is happening because it is traceable on the exchange