Can you guys identify Whale move?

[Golftech]

I don't know how to identify this whale transaction or not, even though the transaction is indeed very large.
but what will be the effect if the balance goes into exchange ?
make a bluff or really make a change.

there is a twitter account that always provides transaction information in large numbers, maybe that's what the said Whale. but if it's sent to exchange there's always FUD and we don't know whether it has an effect or not. but it should have an effect not just displacement.

Those kinds of transactions mostly used by big investors to manipulate the market, it's tough to know which directions it might go since
whales are very good in playing with investors/ traders emotions. They have all the time to assess and observe if what the possible
next  target, be careful playing with those so called whales they always have second options.

[alisonwonder]

I don't know how to identify this whale transaction or not, even though the transaction is indeed very large.
but what will be the effect if the balance goes into exchange ?
make a bluff or really make a change.

there is a twitter account that always provides transaction information in large numbers, maybe that's what the said Whale. but if it's sent to exchange there's always FUD and we don't know whether it has an effect or not. but it should have an effect not just displacement.

Those kinds of transactions mostly used by big investors to manipulate the market, it's tough to know which directions it might go since
whales are very good in playing with investors/ traders emotions. They have all the time to assess and observe if what the possible
next  target, be careful playing with those so called whales they always have second options.

sometimes the information they tweet is very detailed sent from the wallet to the exchanger for, but you're right it will still be difficult to predict, maybe it's a manipulation or indeed a real buying like this is happening right now that is bullish.

[Oasisman]

Those kinds of transactions mostly used by big investors to manipulate the market, it's tough to know which directions it might go since
whales are very good in playing with investors/ traders emotions. They have all the time to assess and observe if what the possible
next  target, be careful playing with those so called whales they always have second options.

Safe thing to do to ride the whales pump is to buy cheap and hold it long term. Not unless if you're an expert trader who's expert in following the market sentiments and momentum. Specially, now that the block halving event will drag a lot of investors attention to accumulate more Bitcoin and other alts, since the news and trend seems to be bullish as a definition of the outcome from the past halving.

[kapalmabur]

actually it can be done, I follow a special channel in the telegram called 'whalebotalert', maybe it can help if you as a trader, I use it and it is good, usually the price goes up when there is a notification when there is a large USDT fund going into Bitcoin, try use it

[rodskee]

your first post is this

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5216355.msg53567055#msg53567055

ANN thread of Bispex

and the next is you are promoting this team that launched a airdrop and you have gained something like that.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5217077.msg53589832#msg53589832

and here you are asking about that Bispex exchange?obvious that you are the Dev of this and a simple advertising is what you are doing here right?why not answer your own question about that exchange?because for sure you have the best answer from your questions.

[SaShiRaJaVu]

We can't really predict it but we can identify it, that is very different from each other. If you ask me when will a whale make a move or what is about to happen I wouldn't know a lick about it, how could I know because no whale comes up to me and tells me when they will make a move.

There are teams that used to monitor the whale transaction and they used to spread the FUD once in a while when exchanges start moving the coins too, so it is hard to identify huge whale transactions all the time. The synchronized moves does not happen in the market with major coins and it will happen in small coins with small valuation.

 

[btccashacc]

Nah, we can't do that, this is the hardest thing to do, at least you know a guy or a bunch of people who holds a lot of bitcoins, to be honest we don't know who's behind that address. Anyway I believe as time goes by, there will be more people get into the bitcoin and leads to these whales loosing their power. So we as a small trader don't have to worry about are they going to pump or dump the price.

[kentrolla]

I don't think this pump was due to any whales move and I think we need to focus more on market situations than whale's move because we have no idea what will be their next move and we can only identify it by the way market trends, so we are better of closely monitoring the market and price trend than going after the reason for soar or dump.

[GuyFromBarcelona]

yo can't predict what decisions other person is going to make.  that it's only in films.. you can make a guess, but will be just luck.

[STT]

Your experiencing a common human flaw which is to place a human face on every natural phenomena, the world is larger then just us.   A big move doesnt have to be a big person moving a piece on a chess board, it can be the accumulation of a million people and their feelings towards worth of cash or various assets vs the secure transaction accessible across the internet that Bitcoin represents.
    I'm certain its not about whales, its a flock movement like the way sparrows fly or fish swim in sequence effected by each other in time but also as a group hence seperate units can appear as one.    I would label this as consensus opinion which moves in waves usually, to have BTC backed into thousands of value like this is more faith then any thought would occur but here we are.   Its not whales alone, they cannot move the ocean.

[FanEagle]

Big whales would never play blind as the new traders do because they only invest if their research permits them to. Big whales have been making TA and would only enter or exit the markets accordingly.

Now, how is it possible for you to predict their movements? The most simple answer from my side would be for you to start understanding the graphs and implying the patters and strategies onto the graph to show you further movements. You can predict the future price of any coin if you made some.

Technical Analysis and if you have the ability to understand the graphs. You can even predict at which point big whales would enter or exit by considering some of the large buy/sell orders. Big whales never buy or sell coins at the current market value. They always set buy and sell orders above or below the market price by making their own research.

[tbterryboy]

yo can't predict what decisions other person is going to make.  that it's only in films.. you can make a guess, but will be just luck.

Not actually only our luck will play in this situation. Our research and our knowledge about the trading markets would be most useful in this case. What most of the newbies think is that they could never predict the future for any coin and it makes them buy or sell at the price they could feel reliable just by speculating few buy and sell orders, volume, etc.

These few things would never help you to buy at a correct price as you would need a lot of other strategies which would help you to find better price for yourself to invest. Even the big whales are human beings and god has given them the same brain as we have so why not utilize it like them? Even you can find where the big whales might enter or exit if you have the ability to spend hours of your day in making huge research in front of your desktop.

[criza]

yo can't predict what decisions other person is going to make.  that it's only in films.. you can make a guess, but will be just luck.

Not actually only our luck will play in this situation. Our research and our knowledge about the trading markets would be most useful in this case. What most of the newbies think is that they could never predict the future for any coin and it makes them buy or sell at the price they could feel reliable just by speculating few buy and sell orders, volume, etc.

These few things would never help you to buy at a correct price as you would need a lot of other strategies which would help you to find better price for yourself to invest. Even the big whales are human beings and god has given them the same brain as we have so why not utilize it like them? Even you can find where the big whales might enter or exit if you have the ability to spend hours of your day in making huge research in front of your desktop.

Indeed, knowledge and being wise are two of the important things a trader or an investor should have because, without it, you would just be drifting into the market and is not capable to see the possible and potential coins that might rise or bloom in the future. A lot of people have earned a lot of profit by learning all about the current trends and new coins available in the market, so it recommendable for the newbies to first read about the basics and fundamentals in the market before engaging in trading or investments for them to avoid such risk.

Whales would mostly consists of a group of people dealing with various cryptocurrency or Bitcoin in the market, they own a lot of stock in it, you could see its movement mostly if someone sold a large volume of Bitcoin in the market, which could really affect the standing of a coin in the market.

[adaseb]

Don't know if any of you guys trade on Bitmex, but apparently there was a spoofer who kept placing these 20M-50M orders from time to time leading up to the peak in February.

Basically it was so apparent it was a spoof and most people assumed that since it was a large bid, he had a larger offer somewhere and the market would tank, however the complete opposite happened and we kept going up and up. Many people tried to countertrade him and ended up with huge losses.

I think he found a way to trick some algos because whenever the large bid appeared in a bull trend, almost immediately price would spike up $5-$10 or so. So far haven't seem him back yet.

[BlackFor3st]

As i am looking at bitcoin chart now, BTC price just soared little bit in a short time.

It happened because of whale's move or not.


Btw, can anybody identify whale's move? If there is a way to see it, is there a tip for it?

And has anyone experienced BISPEX exchange known as its insurance funding?


Thx!

It is pretty difficult to identify the whales move but if you will just follow the market closely without thinking any negative then you can have a useful information as your basis to check if it was being done by whales or just a trespassing traders that wants to play with the market.

As what I observed, most of the whales are holding their assets for a long term one and they have people to spread a lot of hype in order to boost the market condition. Aside from it, I didn't experience yet any big whales that are playing with the market condition like the big whales are trading daily or weekly. But as what I observed with the market, it is within it's normal condition as the dip is not that big and not that long also.

[okala]

As i am looking at bitcoin chart now, BTC price just soared little bit in a short time.

It happened because of whale's move or not.


Btw, can anybody identify whale's move? If there is a way to see it, is there a tip for it?

And has anyone experienced BISPEX exchange known as its insurance funding?


Thx!

You should go and make money and become one of the whales. You can define the movement of any coins I you can generate 50% of it volumes. It is very difficult to become whales if you are not one of them. The reason why their are making is because majority of the traders don't know or have knowledge on what the whales do!

[justdimin]

Rich people usually can afford stuff like that. When you have 20-50 million to put on bitmex and try to profit from it, you will have a bigger chance of a success compared to a person who puts up 20-50 dollars in total. The amount of money that is required to move the whole market up or down is a lot but when you have that type of money you can wager on bitcoin to go up and actually take it up yourself as well all leading up to you making a lot more money.

All in all being a whale helps you trade even in bitcoin world and it has always been a great deal in stock markets, look at Warren Buffet, whatever that dude buys goes up because he is both famous and rich enough to buy a ton of it to make it go up just from buying.

[adaseb]

Rich people usually can afford stuff like that. When you have 20-50 million to put on bitmex and try to profit from it, you will have a bigger chance of a success compared to a person who puts up 20-50 dollars in total. The amount of money that is required to move the whole market up or down is a lot but when you have that type of money you can wager on bitcoin to go up and actually take it up yourself as well all leading up to you making a lot more money.

All in all being a whale helps you trade even in bitcoin world and it has always been a great deal in stock markets, look at Warren Buffet, whatever that dude buys goes up because he is both famous and rich enough to buy a ton of it to make it go up just from buying.

Yes but keep in mind that the whales that make these 20-50 million dollar bids/asks they always have a risk incase some other whale takes that trade for them. There were times in the past when some whale was spoofing and he got caught on the other side of the market when some other whale just as large just took his bid or offer because he wanted to take profit. Then what does he do?

Warren Buffet might be rich but the stock doesn't go up just because he buys it. Most of the stocks he hold he held for many many years and even if he was a buyer he wouldn't be doing a market buy. He just holds many of his positions due to dividends and because the stock value will result in more money than keeping cash in a savings account. I don't think Warren Buffet is someone who pumps and dumps stocks.

[xvids]

Rich people usually can afford stuff like that. When you have 20-50 million to put on bitmex and try to profit from it, you will have a bigger chance of a success compared to a person who puts up 20-50 dollars in total. The amount of money that is required to move the whole market up or down is a lot but when you have that type of money you can wager on bitcoin to go up and actually take it up yourself as well all leading up to you making a lot more money.

All in all being a whale helps you trade even in bitcoin world and it has always been a great deal in stock markets, look at Warren Buffet, whatever that dude buys goes up because he is both famous and rich enough to buy a ton of it to make it go up just from buying.

Yes but keep in mind that the whales that make these 20-50 million dollar bids/asks they always have a risk incase some other whale takes that trade for them. There were times in the past when some whale was spoofing and he got caught on the other side of the market when some other whale just as large just took his bid or offer because he wanted to take profit. Then what does he do?

Warren Buffet might be rich but the stock doesn't go up just because he buys it. Most of the stocks he hold he held for many many years and even if he was a buyer he wouldn't be doing a market buy. He just holds many of his positions due to dividends and because the stock value will result in more money than keeping cash in a savings account. I don't think Warren Buffet is someone who pumps and dumps stocks.

This is why I like Bitcoin or crypto the price couldn't easily be manipulated.
It takes some huge amount to create a movement and if their plan didn't work then it would be a huge loss for the whales.
They could create some FUD and FOMO by moving their crypto but if people wouldn't care about it or ignore it then nothing would happen.
We are the one who is creating this price pump and dump every one is contributing to it so don't blame the whales or other things.

[buwaytress]

Yes but keep in mind that the whales that make these 20-50 million dollar bids/asks they always have a risk incase some other whale takes that trade for them. There were times in the past when some whale was spoofing and he got caught on the other side of the market when some other whale just as large just took his bid or offer because he wanted to take profit. Then what does he do?

Or, it could simply be the exchange whales telling each other, hey, let's benefit from a bit of shifting around. It shows that volume's good on our platforms, it shows also that whales and rich peeps trust us, and it only costs us a few dollars after a few txs. It's not like these whales don't know each other too, even if they're not at exchanges. The community would have been really small back when people were mining and sending to each other.