Send shady merits

[ChuckBuck]

I believe this is not a new problem, it always exists in this forum and there is no specific solution or penalty  
Unknowingly, I glanced over and saw information about this guy. Let's take a look at his merit: here
It includes 17 merit from one user, XinXan

Now let's take a look at the posts which received merit:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5221586.msg53729298#msg53729298
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5221724.msg53733662#msg53733662
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5222445.msg53752875#msg53752875

All posts inform the service. Are they worth for those merit  
About XinXan, his history does not give such merit to anyone, not an active user in merit.

So my question, what is their relationship? It seems that Merit is being abused without any punishment for such things   Any other comments, let me know what you think  

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[TheBeardedBaby]

I already asked him the question if they have any relations. Let's see what he will answer, or he just gonna deleted my comment, since it's self moderated thread.
We have no proof to do anything but it's really suspicious. For me this is just an alt account.
I don't think someone will tag it only for those transactions, theymos already warned the DTs to be careful tagging merit "abuse" without proof. If it was sold or purchased merit with proof we could have tagged him but...

[dkbit98]

Not the first merit abuse example on bitcointalk forum.
It is not easy to prove anything is this or other examples, but I see similar things happening almost every day.

[TMAN]

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given you 50 merits, not for this post but a general hand towards ranking up . I don't have time to give you individual merits for posts, but I checked your last few pages and IMO you aren't a bounty pajeet fucker so you deserve a rank up dude

anyone who wants to moan about it can touch my furniture.

[Lucius]

So my question, what is their relationship? It seems that Merit is being abused without any punishment for such things   Any other comments, let me know what you think  

Very likely this is about XinXan is sending merits to his alt accounts, or he is selling merits. I read somewhere that the average price of 1 merit on black market is around $5 or more, so it doesn't surprise me that there are such suspicious transactions.

I think there is very little that can be done, everyone is almost completely free to give his merits to any post, no matter what the post is about. I think this kind of thing primarily discourages some users who have a very good post/s but no one rewards them with even 1 merit.

[Perkjeff]

So my question, what is their relationship? It seems that Merit is being abused without any punishment for such things   Any other comments, let me know what you think  

Very likely this is about XinXan is sending merits to his alt accounts, or he is selling merits. I read somewhere that the average price of 1 merit on black market is around $5 or more, so it doesn't surprise me that there are such suspicious transactions.

I think there is very little that can be done, everyone is almost completely free to give his merits to any post, no matter what the post is about. I think this kind of thing primarily discourages some users who have a very good post/s but no one rewards them with even 1 merit.

XinXan is active enough to send merits but not enough to post a single post since June 2019  

TEAM360 said there :

TEAM360 is a family, not an individual person. I created this account for contribution for the community and promotional purpose.

XinXan may be part of TEAM360 and sent some merits to make this account more "legit" for people.

[MoparMiningLLC]

IMO you aren't a bounty pajeet fucker so you deserve a rank up dude

anyone who wants to moan about it can touch my furniture.

the greatest thing I have read today lol

[sujonali1819]

Not sure that there is any relationship between them or not. But it is really quite suspicious. Team360 received the first 1 merit from crypto1010 and the second merits from XinXan at the same time (05:38:10 PM and 05:38:34 PM) And the first merited post was deleted. You can see that post here: http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5372/53728092.html. (Thanks Loycev)

[20kevin20]

Very likely this is about XinXan is sending merits to his alt accounts, or he is selling merits. I read somewhere that the average price of 1 merit on black market is around $5 or more, so it doesn't surprise me that there are such suspicious transactions.

I think there is very little that can be done, everyone is almost completely free to give his merits to any post, no matter what the post is about. I think this kind of thing primarily discourages some users who have a very good post/s but no one rewards them with even 1 merit.

Everyone's free to give his merits to any post, but abusing it and traffic of merit is a different thing.

If someone's discouraged by the fact that a member's earned merit for a subjectively undeserved post and gives BitcoinTalk up for that reason, then their purpose being a member here is pretty clear. You don't write for the merit, you do it for the forum and because you just want to share an idea and some effort with someone else.

To me it looks like TEAM360 is an account trying to be boosted by XinXan, hence might be his own. Unless we've proof, that'll remain just a mystery though.
What looks pretty shady is that he's clearly offering services ("From 29th Jan to 31 Jan(The Year of 2020) I will provide free promotional service."), but two posts below he says "I don't offer any service here". This thread, which is his too, clearly offers services too.

The sketchy part comes with XinXan's activity. No posts since 12th of June 2019, yet he gave merit ('coincidentally') in the past month. Things get even sketchier when you put TEAM360's thread next to an ANN thread created by coinliker, a member XinXan has given merit to on the 7th of January. Both threads are using the general structure. Even the first paragraph is centered and bolded in both threads. I doubt TEAM360 was so inspired by coinliker's thread that he decided to go for the same thread structure.

The thing I cannot link though is the level of English these users are using. While TEAM360 is using a lower level of English ("but not reached much people", "Don't run add for your project" etc), the other mebers have a noticeably higher level of English. It could all be about intentionally using a lower level of English to lower the chances of the users being linked together.

[taufik123]

given you 50 merits, not for this post but a general hand towards ranking up . I don't have time to give you individual merits for posts, but I checked your last few pages and IMO you aren't a bounty pajeet fucker so you deserve a rank up dude
anyone who wants to moan about it can touch my furniture.

you are amazing bro. Calculates all posts and gives 50 merits in this one post.
but he deserves it.
But am I worthy too?
Please check some of my previous posts.

-snip- I read somewhere that the average price of 1 merit on black market is around $5 or more, -snip-

sell 1 merit for $ 5 or more?
that's a pretty high price but for those who want to get merit and move up the rank quickly it certainly becomes a shortcut.
Those who use the services of buying and selling merit only make junk posts that fill this forum.

[TMAN]

But am I worthy too?

I can barely read English nevermind Indonesian!

but yea - what I can see I think you are deserving..

stay lucky my man!

[taufik123]

I can barely read English nevermind Indonesian!

but yea - what I can see I think you are deserving..

stay lucky my man!

thank you for the appreciation bro.
I was active in the local Indonesian forum and there where I came from.
Only a few posts in English.

[sujonali1819]

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sell 1 merit for $ 5 or more?
that's a pretty high price

If 5$ would be high then what is 15$ for per merit? I have seen on Fiverr where many gigs are open for selling merit for 15$. I have also create a topic about it. You can see here

Btw @tafik123 you are really lucky. Congrats you for receiving 50 merits from TMAN

[Doxiva]

One more connection I am getting here from the investigation of marlboroza- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5218834.msg53757311#msg53757311

XinXan has given 5 merits to coinliker too. He has been tagged for selling fake reviews.

https://i.imgur.com/gu4KHEg.png

Team360 has posted a list of earning method-

1. Reviewhunt
2. Latium
3. Ferrum
4. Bounty0x
5. Bountyhive
6. Bountyhunters
7. Anytask (Recently Launched)

If we check coinliker youtube channel, first 3 sites were recommended within the last week.

https://i.imgur.com/92y0thD.png

marlboroza can bring some more proof, maybe.

[ChuckBuck]

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@iasenko So I did a bit of digging @XinXan created a thread in 2015 where he stated that he was working on a game. From what it looks like @XinXan has some Designing Skills. I feel like he is part of their team because recently @TEAM360 created a post where they are offering "Art services", So it could be that @XinXan is sending merits as a sort of vouch for @TEAM360. Or it could be simply a case of merit selling and I'm just trying to give @XinXan the benefit of the doubt. He hasn't been active on the forum since June 2019 so this case of sending merit all of a sudden to a newbie account does seem suspicious. Definitely keep an eye on them.

So Xinxan's account could be hacked and now it's used for other purposes, there are too many ways to think in this case.

I don't have time to give you individual merits for posts, but I checked your last few pages and IMO you aren't a bounty pajeet fucker so you deserve a rank up dude

I will do the rest with the merit you gave me  Merit should be circulated on this forum, whenever I see a worthy post, I will send merit  Thank you very much!

Very likely this is about XinXan is sending merits to his alt accounts, or he is selling merits. I read somewhere that the average price of 1 merit on black market is around $5 or more, so it doesn't surprise me that there are such suspicious transactions.

I was surprised at the price of a merit, it was terrible  as I said above, maybe his account was hacked, he didn't work for a long time.

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Thanks for your information, but I don't have the authority or ability to check it, I just want to hear from everyone.

[kawetsriyanto]

given you 50 merits, not for this post but a general hand towards ranking up .~~

~~what I can see I think you are deserving.. stay lucky my man!

@TMAN, If there is an honor gift of the most generous merit sender, you must be the winner. I hope someone can make a thread to vote the most generous merit sender someday. And I will guarantee to vote for you. Anyway, those who got 50 merits from you are definitely so lucky members. Indeed they are good posters, but not all good posters are lucky as them, for example me (still not lucky)..    

~~that's a pretty high price but for those who want to get merit and move up the rank quickly it certainly becomes a shortcut.~~

Yes, it is a shortcut, rank up in short time. But we must know, it is the way to lose your account immediately. Someone will report it soon and the account will get "perma ban". Then say "goodbye" to the account because of the fool mistake!!  

[Lucius]

I was surprised at the price of a merit, it was terrible  as I said above, maybe his account was hacked, he didn't work for a long time.

Maybe someone will dig up something relevant about his account and the possible connection with the accounts he sent merits. I think it's somewhere in 2015 or 2016 buying/selling accounts on forum become something that has become negative and DT members start to tag such accounts. Before that it was quite normal, selling and buying accounts was a legitimate business, and some members have a dozen of them, which is not against forum rules.

Problems arise when these accounts are used to abuse signature campaigns or for merit abuse. Airdropped merits on these accounts have become something that can be sold for a decent price. For example, Legendary accounts get 200 merits (in my case), and if you sell them for only $5 each it is easy $1000.

[ChuckBuck]

Problems arise when these accounts are used to abuse signature campaigns or for merit abuse. Airdropped merits on these accounts have become something that can be sold for a decent price. For example, Legendary accounts get 200 merits (in my case), and if you sell them for only $5 each it is easy $1000.

LOL  Very easy money for anyone  I'm thinking about making money by selling merit, well, I'm going to get rich quickly with the amount of merit I can earn  Just kidding 
In the end, problems like this continued and I think no way to stop them. I didn't complain when I didn't get the desired amount of merit, I find cheating in merit seems too easy  It's not fair to many people out there

[Furious 7]

Problems arise when these accounts are used to abuse signature campaigns or for merit abuse. Airdropped merits on these accounts have become something that can be sold for a decent price. For example, Legendary accounts get 200 merits (in my case), and if you sell them for only $5 each it is easy $1000.

LOL  Very easy money for anyone  I'm thinking about making money by selling merit, well, I'm going to get rich quickly with the amount of merit I can earn  Just kidding 
In the end, problems like this continued and I think no way to stop them. I didn't complain when I didn't get the desired amount of merit, I find cheating in merit seems too easy  It's not fair to many people out there

Many have sold services in a number of cases before that might have happened to many people on this forum, but are there steps to stop it?
By posting rubbish they still get examples of achievements as shown by the OP, only by posting like that then he was given to him.

[ScamViruS]

Problems arise when these accounts are used to abuse signature campaigns or for merit abuse. Airdropped merits on these accounts have become something that can be sold for a decent price. For example, Legendary accounts get 200 merits (in my case), and if you sell them for only $5 each it is easy $1000.

I saw many in the marketplace, many merit abuser selling merits. They sell each merit at a much higher price. Cost per merit is $20!   You can check here :  https://www.fiverr.com/dollydeval/supply-bitcointalk-merits-for-your-bitcointalk-account?ref_ctx_id=72b2b24c-2675-4e12-8695-d6011172768c



Many merit abuser may not have been caught by the community. But what I see is that, the users can not go too far by buying merit, they get stuck at a limited rank.