Send shady merits

[TheBeardedBaby]

Merit selling is not a big issue just because you won't be able to rank up more than member without being spotted.
You have a really high chance of loosing the account together with the investment you made when buying merit. If it's just to participate in bounties, that you are not so harmful for the community, of course you cheated your way up which is not nice, but you can't go any further up without consequences.

If 1 merit cost 20$ then you need to spend a bit more than 1BTC just to rank up from Hero to Legendary, I don't think anyone will make such investment only for ranking up.
Prices are ...
5000$ to rank up to Hero,
3000$ to rank up to Sr. Member,
1800$ to rank up to Full member
180$ to rank to Member.

So I saved myself 31680$ just earning my meirt for free

[20kevin20]

Merit selling is not a big issue just because you won't be able to rank up more than member without being spotted.
You have a really high chance of loosing the account together with the investment you made when buying merit. If it's just to participate in bounties, that you are not so harmful for the community, of course you cheated your way up which is not nice, but you can't go any further up without consequences.

If 1 merit cost 20$ then you need to spend a bit more than 1BTC just to rank up from Hero to Legendary, I don't think anyone will make such investment only for ranking up.
Prices are ...
5000$ to rank up to Hero,
3000$ to rank up to Sr. Member,
1800$ to rank up to Full member
180$ to rank to Member.

So I saved myself 31680$ just earning my meirt for free

Here's 2 more from me! Too bad you need activity, not merit, to advance to Legendary.. I really hope you're going to rank up soon enough - you really deserve it.

If someone's stupid enough to pay $20 for 1 merit which could be earned by simply posting a helpful thread/reply on the forum, they deserve their loss so let them be. They'll take down with them the members who've sent them merit too as they'd all become suddenly suspicious, so it's a win situation for us.

From what I've seen, those users who can't rank up due to lack of quality posting will give up in the end. Merit is such a good measure to stop them but I wish it wasn't a requirement for the top members like you and LoyceV Mobile to rank up.

[ChuckBuck]

but are there steps to stop it?

No, as you can see, there's no punishment, no tagging restrictions, nothing happens 

Many merit abuser may not have been caught by the community

Finding undetected users is unnecessary  Because there's no remedy or solution, nothing, I'm just posting here to see what everyone's opinion is about, this topic doesn't work to denounce such users.

[TheBeardedBaby]

Merit selling is not a big issue just because you won't be able to rank up more than member without being spotted.
You have a really high chance of loosing the account together with the investment you made when buying merit. If it's just to participate in bounties, that you are not so harmful for the community, of course you cheated your way up which is not nice, but you can't go any further up without consequences.

If 1 merit cost 20$ then you need to spend a bit more than 1BTC just to rank up from Hero to Legendary, I don't think anyone will make such investment only for ranking up.
Prices are ...
5000$ to rank up to Hero ,
3000$ to rank up to Sr. Member,
1800$ to rank up to Full member
180$ to rank to Member.

So I saved myself 31680$ just earning my meirt for free

Here's 2 more from me! Too bad you need activity, not merit, to advance to Legendary.. I really hope you're going to rank up soon enough - you really deserve it.

If someone's stupid enough to pay $20 for 1 merit which could be earned by simply posting a helpful thread/reply on the forum, they deserve their loss so let them be. They'll take down with them the members who've sent them merit too as they'd all become suddenly suspicious, so it's a win situation for us.

From what I've seen, those users who can't rank up due to lack of quality posting will give up in the end. Merit is such a good measure to stop them but I wish it wasn't a requirement for the top members like you and LoyceV Mobile to rank up.

Thanks for the merit, but you really need to send it to someone who could really use it and need them to actually rank up. I have no where to go any higher so basically those merits are just for prestige, and kind of a lost ones.

Back to to the OP, I have not received any answer to my question even tho the guy was online some hours ago. This kind of shady behavior is exactly what I expected, the whole case is a bit fishy. Let's wait and see how it will go.

[20kevin20]

Thanks for the merit, but you really need to send it to someone who could really use it and need them to actually rank up. I have no where to go any higher so basically those merits are just for prestige, and kind of a lost ones.

Back to to the OP, I have not received any answer to my question even tho the guy was online some hours ago. This kind of shady behavior is exactly what I expected, the whole case is a bit fishy. Let's wait and see how it will go.

I always keep a little bit of Merit for those who deserve it, I'm never running out of them.

TEAM360 surely saw your message and most likely this thread too. They probably prefer to now go through PMs with potentially interested people rather than answering our questions. He/she knows what they're doing isn't right.

XinXan is also active (last active a day ago), but no response to this thread. Taking into account that he gives away Merit, he must know about the existence of this thread too.

[Lucius]

Buying merits outside the forum can also be very risky in the sense that fraud is very likely to happen, unless an escrow is used - but would any trusted member agree to such a deal? I have no doubt in that, I know there have been cases where there are some reliable escrows that have mediated the purchase/sale of accounts, which is not explicitly banned - but definitely not desirable.

If 1 merit cost 20$ then you need to spend a bit more than 1BTC just to rank up from Hero to Legendary, I don't think anyone will make such investment only for ranking up.

There are merit sales at a more affordable price, but I think some people do not care too much for unethical acts, they buy accounts before, now they buy/sell merits. This is something that is difficult to prove, and sanctions are very rare - which seems very encouraging to those who choose to do such things.


What I would also like to mention is the unethical distribution of merits between the alt accounts. Some have made considerable progress in this way, but they still stay shitposters, and only merits which they could get, they gave to themselves. If I had 2-3 alt Legendary accounts my total number of merits would certainly be much bigger than it is now. But I never wanted to play dirty, those who cheat on others actually cheat on themselves.

Let no one get me wrong, a lot of members deserved every merit they got.

[MoparMiningLLC]

just seems like a lot of unnecessary work to create multiple accounts to xfer merit back and forth from and/or working with those to trade merit or even to buy it. However, people do it every day. They also buy legendary and hero accounts daily.

There is no trust or security here other than what one is willing to risk as you can truly never trust anyone here simply based on their account rank and/or merit.

[Jawhead999]

I think the buyer is only newbie who want to post images. They think copper membership is a bit expensive than buy 1 merit. The cost of copper is $ 26,67, while 1 merit is $ 20. They can save $ 6,67 to buy some food
No one will buy 1 merit for $20 if they're a member or above. It's a very stupid thing if someone member do it.

[ChuckBuck]

They can save $ 6,67 to buy some food

To be honest, I don't think the merit is so expensive  Its actual price will be much lower, in places and people that we cannot see, $20 is just the price to start a service, I think nobody wants to buy it.
Certainly the merit trade is always going on in this forum 

Back to to the OP, I have not received any answer to my question even tho the guy was online some hours ago. This kind of shady behavior is exactly what I expected, the whole case is a bit fishy. Let's wait and see how it will go.

TEAM360 surely saw your message and most likely this thread too. They probably prefer to now go through PMs with potentially interested people rather than answering our questions. He/she knows what they're doing isn't right.
XinXan is also active (last active a day ago), but no response to this thread. Taking into account that he gives away Merit, he must know about the existence of this thread too.

There is a little difference in my mind.  Certainly they already know about the issue we are talking, but this is not a threat to them, because it is not a complete allegation and no flag was sent. So all they need to do is stay silent, no matter what is going on  silent to overcome the storm 

[rdbase]

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sell 1 merit for $ 5 or more?
that's a pretty high price

If 5$ would be high then what is 15$ for per merit? I have seen on Fiverr where many gigs are open for selling merit for 15$. I have also create a topic about it. You can see here

Btw @tafik123 you are really lucky. Congrats you for receiving 50 merits from TMAN

But couldnt these accounts on fivver be traced for selling merits to these accounts buying them? If they are gigs selling certain amount of merits I believe they can be traced eventually.
Bad form for anyone who is participating in such a manner to stoop so low just for a fast way to rank up.
Just be creative enough and you can receive merits quite easily.
I just spent 1 minute in creating a picture when they was giving some out during the 10th anniversary party.
And even theymos sent 15 to me.
So it isnt too hard in needing to spend any amount of crypto/money for those tick offs of achievement on your name.

[solosequenosenada]

Who needs to buy merits when we have @TMAN aka 50Merits   

[lolxxxx]

Problems arise when these accounts are used to abuse signature campaigns or for merit abuse. Airdropped merits on these accounts have become something that can be sold for a decent price. For example, Legendary accounts get 200 merits (in my case), and if you sell them for only $5 each it is easy $1000.

I saw many in the marketplace, many merit abuser selling merits. They sell each merit at a much higher price. Cost per merit is $20!   You can check here :  https://www.fiverr.com/dollydeval/supply-bitcointalk-merits-for-your-bitcointalk-account?ref_ctx_id=72b2b24c-2675-4e12-8695-d6011172768c



Many merit abuser may not have been caught by the community. But what I see is that, the users can not go too far by buying merit, they get stuck at a limited rank.

Why not we just hire him and see from which account he or she is going to merit and then just report?

Maybe, Team360 has bought some merits to rank-up... Many new people coming here making announcements believes that they must have some merit and greater rank so people can take their project seriously and I keep telling them that you do not need merit or bigger rank for your influence you just need a unique idea a perfect team and something that can make you better then and trusted then others.. people just wants to be secure...

I think that we are not aware of merit market, Its already selling I see.

I hope people must learn that merit is something that must be earned not bought and it has nothing to do with your ideas you can get influence if you are genuine... that's all.

Regards

[20kevin20]

Why not we just hire him and see from which account he or she is going to merit and then just report?

Maybe, Team360 has bought some merits to rank-up... Many new people coming here making announcements believes that they must have some merit and greater rank so people can take their project seriously and I keep telling them that you do not need merit or bigger rank for your influence you just need a unique idea a perfect team and something that can make you better then and trusted then others.. people just wants to be secure...

I think that we are not aware of merit market, Its already selling I see.

I hope people must learn that merit is something that must be earned not bought and it has nothing to do with your ideas you can get influence if you are genuine... that's all.

Regards

Would you pay someone to break the BitcoinTalk rules just to see who they are? $20 a merit? I would not. One day or another they will get exposed, just like this guy OP is accusing. Lies are short, right?

And sometimes people will do anything possible just to get up to that minimum rank needed for a sig campaign.

[lolxxxx]

Why not we just hire him and see from which account he or she is going to merit and then just report?

Maybe, Team360 has bought some merits to rank-up... Many new people coming here making announcements believes that they must have some merit and greater rank so people can take their project seriously and I keep telling them that you do not need merit or bigger rank for your influence you just need a unique idea a perfect team and something that can make you better then and trusted then others.. people just wants to be secure...

I think that we are not aware of merit market, Its already selling I see.

I hope people must learn that merit is something that must be earned not bought and it has nothing to do with your ideas you can get influence if you are genuine... that's all.

Regards

Would you pay someone to break the BitcoinTalk rules just to see who they are? $20 a merit? I would not. One day or another they will get exposed, just like this guy OP is accusing. Lies are short, right?

And sometimes people will do anything possible just to get up to that minimum rank needed for a sig campaign.

Umm, We will not be breaking but we will be helping don't you think? Or instead of getting merit just ask him from which account he is going to merit? _{can also be done without paying him or getting merit for real..}

[cryptoaddictchie]

Who needs to buy merits when we have @TMAN aka 50Merits   

If price of 1 merit is $20, Imagine how much money TMAN dumping already $1k is big already so only fool would buy those merit with that price. I cant blame but wonder why there are so eager to pay for a huge amount to get merits. Obviously its for bounty campaign but if they will joined altcoin campaign it still a gamble without assurance.

I am dumping merits too but not for money but for their efforts and quality post here. Hoping for a positive change soon for this merit issue.

[20kevin20]

Umm, We will not be breaking but we will be helping don't you think? Or instead of getting merit just ask him from which account he is going to merit? _{can also be done without paying him or getting merit for real..}

Well, by "hiring" I understood something completely different.

[ScamViruS]

If price of 1 merit is $20, Imagine how much money TMAN dumping already $1k is big already so only fool would buy those merit with that price. I cant blame but wonder why there are so eager to pay for a huge amount to get merits. Obviously its for bounty campaign but if they will joined altcoin campaign it still a gamble without assurance.

I am dumping merits too but not for money but for their efforts and quality post here. Hoping for a positive change soon for this merit issue.

Without a fool, no one will buy per merit with $20. The thought of buying merit and rank up is just stupid idea. People who buy merit to rank up. Their purpose is to join the bounty or join the signature campaign. But they do not understand that, if they give something good to the community, they will be able to earn merit. But they want to do it in a shortcut way.

[LoyceV]

If 1 merit cost 20$ then you need to spend a bit more than 1BTC just to rank up from Hero to Legendary, I don't think anyone will make such investment only for ranking up.
Prices are ...
5000$ to rank up to Hero,
3000$ to rank up to Sr. Member,
1800$ to rank up to Full member
180$ to rank to Member.

So I saved myself 31680$ just earning my meirt for free

Not bad I gave away cycled $189260 worth of sMerit

If someone's stupid enough to pay $20 for 1 merit which could be earned by simply posting a helpful thread/reply on the forum, they deserve their loss so let them be.

That's why theymos wrote a long time ago not to worry too much about Merit abuse. It's a tiny fraction at a high price.
I kinda expected people to start selling quality posts instead of selling sMerit, but I guess the users who sell sMerit aren't the same users who create quality.

[magneto]

There is no way these two aren't alts of each other, or at least related in one way or another through this service of team360 or whatever it's called. Better yet, they could be bought merits.

Unfortunately merit farming is a widespread issue and according to some people, on local boards you are able to obtain a lot of merits for an extremely cheap price.

From a sig campaign point of view though, it shouldn't be that big of an issue if the campaign manager does his due diligence in terms of at least just glancing over the merit sources

[irfan_pak10]

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given you 50 merits, -snip-

This is so generous, There is a great saying

"Happiness is not made by what we own. It is what we share."

—Rabbi Jonathan Sacks