[PoW] Ergo - Welcome to Smart Money!

[SteamCoin]

I've heard it's time to buy erg

Haha, it's just about time 

True, but I believe now we have the great opportunity to watch economy collapse and die, so we should be ready)

I agree. The main thing is that they do not miss good chances of development.

Well, we can only hope and watch.

But is there no insider information about new listings? Or it only becomes known when they announce it publicly?

Ofc no, it would be really weird, so we just hope about better future xd

It's not just weird, it's against the law

All I fear is that the Russian government have would understand the value of Ergo, and will try to take it away

I think that's an exaggeration. Plus, if I'm not mistaken, the project de jure is not under Russian control

Yeah but still u know..government

It won't always be like this (at least I hope so).

[talkmeout]

I've heard it's time to buy erg

Haha, it's just about time 

True, but I believe now we have the great opportunity to watch economy collapse and die, so we should be ready)

I agree. The main thing is that they do not miss good chances of development.

Well, we can only hope and watch.

But is there no insider information about new listings? Or it only becomes known when they announce it publicly?

Ofc no, it would be really weird, so we just hope about better future xd

It's not just weird, it's against the law

All I fear is that the Russian government have would understand the value of Ergo, and will try to take it away

I think that's an exaggeration. Plus, if I'm not mistaken, the project de jure is not under Russian control

Yeah but still u know..government

It won't always be like this (at least I hope so).

Yeah and actually I see no reason to strangle this project

[SteamCoin]

I've heard it's time to buy erg

Haha, it's just about time 

True, but I believe now we have the great opportunity to watch economy collapse and die, so we should be ready)

I agree. The main thing is that they do not miss good chances of development.

Well, we can only hope and watch.

But is there no insider information about new listings? Or it only becomes known when they announce it publicly?

Ofc no, it would be really weird, so we just hope about better future xd

It's not just weird, it's against the law

All I fear is that the Russian government have would understand the value of Ergo, and will try to take it away

I think that's an exaggeration. Plus, if I'm not mistaken, the project de jure is not under Russian control

Yeah but still u know..government

It won't always be like this (at least I hope so).

Yeah and actually I see no reason to strangle this project

Well, in general there are some, but Ergo is unlikely to have problems in the future

[SteamCoin]

Guys, take part in the voting for our favorite project! https://atomars.com/currency-voting

[talkmeout]

Guys, take part in the voting for our favorite project! https://atomars.com/currency-voting

I do it every day! 

[SteamCoin]

Guys, take part in the voting for our favorite project! https://atomars.com/currency-voting

I do it every day! 

But, unfortunately, we are losing 

[talkmeout]

Guys, take part in the voting for our favorite project! https://atomars.com/currency-voting

I do it every day! 

But, unfortunately, we are losing 

By the number of votes, we can see that the community is already there and soon one will be even more, and this is very good!

[SteamCoin]

Ergo now is listed on Coinsbit, nice!

[talkmeout]

Ergo now is listed on Coinsbit, nice!

Yeah, and this's pretty awesome!

[garyfan]

simple？？ solid and innovative cryptocurrency？？

To run this node, and wallet, I need to set the profile to be connected to the node in a specific link. Why can't you just double-click to open it, and then click to create a wallet? In a word, I think you should design it more simply and easy to use!

[talkmeout]

simple？？ solid and innovative cryptocurrency？？

To run this node, and wallet, I need to set the profile to be connected to the node in a specific link. Why can't you just double-click to open it, and then click to create a wallet? In a word, I think you should design it more simply and easy to use!

It would be too easy

[SteamCoin]

simple？？ solid and innovative cryptocurrency？？

To run this node, and wallet, I need to set the profile to be connected to the node in a specific link. Why can't you just double-click to open it, and then click to create a wallet? In a word, I think you should design it more simply and easy to use!

Interesting feedback. Maybe they'll get familiarized with one, or you need to try tweeting with them

[SteamCoin]

simple？？ solid and innovative cryptocurrency？？

To run this node, and wallet, I need to set the profile to be connected to the node in a specific link. Why can't you just double-click to open it, and then click to create a wallet? In a word, I think you should design it more simply and easy to use!

It would be too easy

Lmao, you're right 

[talkmeout]

simple？？ solid and innovative cryptocurrency？？

To run this node, and wallet, I need to set the profile to be connected to the node in a specific link. Why can't you just double-click to open it, and then click to create a wallet? In a word, I think you should design it more simply and easy to use!

It would be too easy

Lmao, you're right 

haha I know right, everything is how it should be

[SteamCoin]

simple？？ solid and innovative cryptocurrency？？

To run this node, and wallet, I need to set the profile to be connected to the node in a specific link. Why can't you just double-click to open it, and then click to create a wallet? In a word, I think you should design it more simply and easy to use!

It would be too easy

Lmao, you're right 

haha I know right, everything is how it should be

Although about simplicity, he's right, it would be nice if it were simple and many people could use blockchain technologies

[talkmeout]

simple？？ solid and innovative cryptocurrency？？

To run this node, and wallet, I need to set the profile to be connected to the node in a specific link. Why can't you just double-click to open it, and then click to create a wallet? In a word, I think you should design it more simply and easy to use!

It would be too easy

Lmao, you're right 

haha I know right, everything is how it should be

Although about simplicity, he's right, it would be nice if it were simple and many people could use blockchain technologies

Btw, the blockchain, already an awesome technology, but still very far from ideal and many companies still prefer traditional methods (and somewhere blockchain is not needed at all)

[SteamCoin]

simple？？ solid and innovative cryptocurrency？？

To run this node, and wallet, I need to set the profile to be connected to the node in a specific link. Why can't you just double-click to open it, and then click to create a wallet? In a word, I think you should design it more simply and easy to use!

It would be too easy

Lmao, you're right 

haha I know right, everything is how it should be

Although about simplicity, he's right, it would be nice if it were simple and many people could use blockchain technologies

Btw, the blockchain, already an awesome technology, but still very far from ideal and many companies still prefer traditional methods (and somewhere blockchain is not needed at all)

Simplicity is one of the main requirements for technology, and Ergo is moving rapidly towards simplification of technology and, in turn, the adoption of the blockchain in general!

[kushti]

  - New Proof-of-Work scheme, Autolykos – a variant of Equihash with better ASIC-resistance

How does it have better ASIC resistance, when Equihash is claimed to have superlinear time-memory tradeoffs (TMTO)
while Autolykos can be solved with no memory and constant slowdown?

IMHO it's closer to Ethash than to Equihash.

Sorry for the long reply, had problems with recovering the password!


Autolykos is based on k-sum problem and not very different from generalized based problem based Equihash then. Can you explain about "no memory and constant slowdown" please?

[kushti]

  - New Proof-of-Work scheme, Autolykos – a variant of Equihash with better ASIC-resistance

How does it have better ASIC resistance, when Equihash is claimed to have superlinear time-memory tradeoffs (TMTO)
while Autolykos can be solved with no memory and constant slowdown?

IMHO it's closer to Ethash than to Equihash.

Autolykos is pretty close to Equihash, it is based on k-sum problem , but also adds a signature component for somewhat pool-resistance. Parameters are chosen in order to be much more memory-intensive (and memory-bandwidth intensive) than ZCash's and other popular Equihash coins PoWs.

Autolykos is very different from Equihash in memory requirements.

Equihash searches for an arbitrary size 2^k subset of indices,
whose corresponding items must xor to 0 (as well as satisfy
other conditions on the ordered binary tree of indices and items).
Memory is needed to sort and combine partial solutions.
Without memory, finding a solution would take longer than the age of the universe.

Autolykos instead generates the possible subsets as genIndexes(m||nonce),
as shown in Algorithm 1 of https://docs.ergoplatform.com/ErgoPow.pdf
The element at an index j is trivially computed as H(j||M||pk||m||w)
No memory at all is required for that.
It could be used to cache the hash computation of elements, but that is at best
a constant factor speedup.

Ah I see. We're discussing it, see https://github.com/ergoplatform/ergo/issues/1100 (are you BigEvilSoloMiner aka AsicResearcher maybe though? )

[SteamCoin]

  - New Proof-of-Work scheme, Autolykos – a variant of Equihash with better ASIC-resistance

How does it have better ASIC resistance, when Equihash is claimed to have superlinear time-memory tradeoffs (TMTO)
while Autolykos can be solved with no memory and constant slowdown?

IMHO it's closer to Ethash than to Equihash.

Autolykos is pretty close to Equihash, it is based on k-sum problem , but also adds a signature component for somewhat pool-resistance. Parameters are chosen in order to be much more memory-intensive (and memory-bandwidth intensive) than ZCash's and other popular Equihash coins PoWs.

Autolykos is very different from Equihash in memory requirements.

Equihash searches for an arbitrary size 2^k subset of indices,
whose corresponding items must xor to 0 (as well as satisfy
other conditions on the ordered binary tree of indices and items).
Memory is needed to sort and combine partial solutions.
Without memory, finding a solution would take longer than the age of the universe.

Autolykos instead generates the possible subsets as genIndexes(m||nonce),
as shown in Algorithm 1 of https://docs.ergoplatform.com/ErgoPow.pdf
The element at an index j is trivially computed as H(j||M||pk||m||w)
No memory at all is required for that.
It could be used to cache the hash computation of elements, but that is at best
a constant factor speedup.

Ah I see. We're discussing it, see https://github.com/ergoplatform/ergo/issues/1100 (are you BigEvilSoloMiner aka AsicResearcher maybe though? )

Wow, you're here, that's awesome! Thank you for your work, you do great!