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February 07, 2020, 12:08:55 PM
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Hello.
There is a coin - "Idena is the first Proof-of-Person Blockchain"
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5194871.0

I think this is a scam.
Here are my reasons.
1. 36,000,000 premined coins (82% of all coins in hands of team now).
2. They also get 12000 coins from invitations.
3. 5% of all new emitted coins goes to the team ~ 13000 coins each epoch.
12000+13000=25000 coins each epoch goes to the team. Thats ~10%
4. More people you invite, the more income you will have. Doesn't remind you of a financial pyramid?
5. I was deceived at a very early stage, why - it is not clear. For no reason, my invitation was turned off for me.
But mining without it is impossible. Feel it? That is, the developer controls who can mine and who can not.
Although dev speaks of the need for decentralization and democracy in his manifesto. That is misinformation.

That's all for now.
Perhaps I will expand this list even further.
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February 07, 2020, 12:19:29 PM
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Forget it about a while, why you using alt account only for judge this coin?
If you're have a strong proof about this coin will scam, I think you will not using alt account. I'm very suspicious about you now, not the coin.

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February 07, 2020, 03:46:01 PM
Last edit: February 27, 2020, 07:46:38 AM by Tytanowy Janusz
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Bunch of lies. This is paid troll. I'm early adopter (mining this POP -proof of person - coin for close to 3 months) so i can easily clear things out to end this stupid accusation.


"1. 36,000,000 premined coins (82% of all coins in hands of team now)."

82% currently and only because there was no ICO.
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There are dozens of etherum token ICOs with 100% premine and sold during ICO. Is it better? Who was scammed here? Early adopters who are mining testnet coins?

"2. They also get 12000 coins from invitations."

It is a testnet. And 12k is a lie. It is ~5k/epoch on average from 10 last epochs (1 epoch is 7 days currently) ->https://scan.idena.io/address?address=0xcbb98843270812eeCE07BFb82d26b4881a33aA91#rewards . Network grows exponential and there is lack of invitations. Every day bunch of people beggs for them on telegram. That's why team is sending them in an amount exceeding the capacity of a single node (1 invitation per person per epoch).



"3. 5% of all new emitted coins goes to the team ~ 13000 coins each epoch.
12000+13000=25000 coins each epoch goes to the team. Thats ~10%"

Is this a scam? A lot of projects distributes part of coins/tokens to developers. It is written in IDENA FAQ. No one hides it.

"4. More people you invite, the more income you will have. Doesn't remind you of a financial pyramid?"

This is a lie. You can invite only 1 person per epoch (7 days) and you are getting reward for invitation (Rewards comes from mining pool. You get supply/number of invitations send by whone network ~1200 DNA if person you invite validates 3 times in a row. ). That's the end. Next week you can invite another person.


Calling this "financial pyramid" ... damn ... I don't know if you are stupid or you are intentionally lying

"5. I was deceived at a very early stage, why - it is not clear. For no reason, my invitation was turned off for me.
But mining without it is impossible. Feel it? That is, the developer controls who can mine and who can not."

Another lie. Everyone who validate 3 times in a row can invite one person per epoch (7 days) not only devs. We have 355 nodes now and devs are sending 0-20 invites per epoch another 170 are sent by community. Control of who is mining or not is far from their hands.

Another lie. You were not deceived at a very early stage. Your invitation was terminated and you did not lose anything.

FUD bullshit

He terminated your account at 28 of January (candidate without even a single validation done with 0 stake) and next validation was at first of February. So you had 4 days to get new one. You did not loose anything. He did not profit anything. Where is SCAM? Who scammed who? he may have noticed that you are begging for another invitation after you get one from him.

We are tolking about this event ->https://scan.idena.io/tx?tx=0x3aea651a7606b7a7f0eb724d1d12fab2f576c085228797a08265dc599f76a8dd

Also coward. Gave invitation code from one admin account, terminated from another admin account.

That is a lie. He created invitation on the same account that he terminated it.

Who give him a right to terminate my account after I activated it and reported AI that I ACTIVATE it and AI said OK.
EVERYONE HAS THE SAME RIGHT. THAT'S HOW INVITATION SYSTEM IS INVENTED.

Did you see my screenshot ? Why different accounts there ?
My account was activated from address 0xB61721bC3898EEB239A3cC6df7aC4522b258098f
Terminated from 0xcbb98843270812eeCE07BFb82d26b4881a33aA91
https://scan.idena.io/address?address=0x2fa177f08FE1587E627481e797E41c7D659C9927

You need to learn how to use explorer:



https://scan.idena.io/address?address=0xB61721bC3898EEB239A3cC6df7aC4522b258098f
https://scan.idena.io/address?address=0x2fa177f08FE1587E627481e797E41c7D659C9927

That's the end of my time for this FUD scam bullshit and those 2 accounts. Everyone who has brain knows what is going on - Paid FUD spamming service or someone with trolling hobby.
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February 07, 2020, 04:02:04 PM
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This topic is bulllshit and a troll crap

Premine as premine so far we don`t know how it will be distributed as its a testnet still, the whole concept and blockchain is more or less done from ZERO so you expect someone to invest years of work and pay ppl for his pocket?

Also this is full blockchian where ppl have 100% consensus you can be part and one day vote on primine use (that is what I think will happen)!

But whats the point topic OP is a bad persona and a troll so pls close it and be gone!

1. Also you lie a lot 82% as chain just started, daily emission is ~50K and there is no block halving so after 1 year + it will be 50%, in few years under 10%

2. they don`t get 12 000 for invites the reward is shared for all ppl that invite others and now they let community invite first!

3. you math is wrong

4. You don`t get more coins if you invite ppl over time!? its a reward to make ppl invite you get ONLY if they validate and after that you get ZERO

5. This is fucking testnet WTF deceived YOU, and who ever asked you to join by force!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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February 07, 2020, 04:02:36 PM
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Oh boy.
This moron is back again.
He attacked everyone from community because Idena is testnet...
and he was furious that he even created some crap flips and changed his name many times.
It is our old friend LO - better known as The Testnet Guy Grin

Just ignore everything he say

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February 07, 2020, 04:17:11 PM
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You forgot to log into your other sockpuppet account:

quantumj https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2748354
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February 07, 2020, 04:20:00 PM
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He is well known FUD-er.
Stop making false accusations!
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February 07, 2020, 04:26:21 PM
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Where is the point where he is scamming people this is not an ICO it's mining, ok the pre mine is huge but I have seen other mining algo with billions of pre mine, they developed the coin with their own idea and funds so it's right that they have a developer shares, less we forget Satoshi has a huge premine too from the start.

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February 07, 2020, 04:28:11 PM
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Thank you for giving attention to this revolutionary concept!

That way people can read about it, join Discord and network and realize by themselves what the actual truth is, instead of your "truth".

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February 07, 2020, 05:00:18 PM
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New account only to spread fud and spam, what not to trust Grin

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February 07, 2020, 07:15:11 PM
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dukabit realy pissed you out, since you went trough all this trouble, also making those shitty kidy revenge flips

quantumj here
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... man, what is wrong with you? Are you just bored?

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What's wrong with you?
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February 14, 2020, 02:37:10 AM
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I think this thread has helped the popularity of Idena just check their discord and telegram channel so many people are now asking, invitation code because they do want to mine this coin, so far for me, this is the next big thing because of its uniqueness.

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February 18, 2020, 02:28:13 PM
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There is an opinion that this fraud came from VULTR (investigation will continue).
From some VULTR's admins, who decided to improve the company's business in such a fraudulent way.
Just analyze the situation a bit.
1. To run idena wallet, everyone always recommends using VPS, because there is a huge amount of traffic - there can be 10-15 GB per day.
But what kind of traffic is this? The developers did not answer this question.
But keep that in mind.
2. For each question in a Telegram or Discord about which VPS to use, everyone (you understand who) always answers that it is best to use VULTR.
But why ? Vultr is shit that requires the first payment for Card/Paypal (that is, you are identifying yourself) and only then can you pay with cryptocurrency.

A small conclusion. While small.
You create a huge amount of fake traffic on the Vultr servers.

Now you understand where this scam is from?
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February 18, 2020, 03:17:48 PM
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I think this was not really an accusation but more of an advertising, first thing I'm curious about this new user who created an account just to make an accusation about the Idena and create an accusation based on its small information he/she have hmmm  Huh

Maybe a random user who just wanted to rant for having his/her invitation was cancelled or was off.

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There is an opinion that this fraud came from VULTR (investigation will continue).
From some VULTR's admins, who decided to improve the company's business in such a fraudulent way.
Just analyze the situation a bit.
1. To run idena wallet, everyone always recommends using VPS, because there is a huge amount of traffic - there can be 10-15 GB per day.
But what kind of traffic is this? The developers did not answer this question.
But keep that in mind.
2. For each question in a Telegram or Discord about which VPS to use, everyone (you understand who) always answers that it is best to use VULTR.
But why ? Vultr is shit that requires the first payment for Card/Paypal (that is, you are identifying yourself) and only then can you pay with cryptocurrency.

A small conclusion. While small.
You create a huge amount of fake traffic on the Vultr servers.

Now you understand where this scam is from?


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February 27, 2020, 09:38:38 AM
Last edit: February 27, 2020, 09:51:34 AM by Crypt0-B
 #18

Scam IDENA team carried out a hidden pre-sale of 7,000,000 coins at a hidden price, instead of publicly announcing the start of trading and publicly announcing the price.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5194871.580
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February 27, 2020, 12:26:06 PM
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Scam IDENA team carried out a hidden pre-sale of 7,000,000 coins at a hidden price, instead of publicly announcing the start of trading and publicly announcing the price.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5194871.580
Hidden? Everyone knew about it lol. It was a private sale to fund initial development.
Don't lie.
There is no information about pre-sale nowhere.
Or show the links, posts about public pre-sale, proofs and so on.
And don't show whitepaper. WP is a plan, not a fact.
 
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February 27, 2020, 03:54:52 PM
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Yeah Idena is a scam, it's best that you stay away so that the "idiots" who follow the project earn more.

Anybody who wants to listen to fucking noobs without any knowledge will soon suffer the consequences   Wink
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