Leave gambling, if it destroys you.

[thisappointed]

but if i dont have a debt , i hardly win

You could buy things for your friends and/or make good investments that long term puts you ahead but short term means you have very little available money.    If somehow that leads you to have better luck with the little money left then great I guess.   I'd say thats the smartest approach anyway, pay bills first, pay down the mortgage as much as possible with the few bits left after all monthly bills paid only then gamble the little left that is of no consequence.   Its a bad idea to gamble with money you need later anyhow.

Correct, that is basically useless and so dumb for someone to do, because if you will gamble without saving any money, you will be force to make a loan, sell your stuffs that you need, or even your properties if you have no choice because you need the money to pay those things that you have mentioned. The problem here since then is that they are playing gambling without any moderation, without any self-discipline, without any proper mindset or precautions, just in case they need one.

[deisik]

Gambling can only be seeing as a fun only when you are playing the game with not your real money.

Well, I am glad you are having fun with that, that means you are having fun without taking any risk. But, I'd like to tell you that majority of the gamblers who are having fun would not have fun when they are not risking their money, of course that's including me and my definition of having fun is to gamble by risking a money that you can afford to lose anytime.

I don't think anyone will be playing with his or her hard earned money in the name having fun in gambling with it dude. It will only be fun if and only if you are making profit from playing gambling but once you are losing it will not be fun as usual let be sincere to our selves.

Let us be honest. Having fun almost always means spending some hard earned money

But do we have to follow this rule in all cases or consider it inevitable, sort of carved in stone?

More specifically, why can't we have fun and earn money in the process? I'm not sure about following a stricter definition of the term here, but if you like your job, like what you are doing and it pays well at that, i.e. enough to make a living, won't your job be a form of fun on its own? I know that this is rarely the case in real life (just rephrasing your words), but is this state unnatural in itself, or is it in fact more unnatural to force yourself or be forced by circumstances to do something which you don't like at all for the sole purpose of providing sustenance for you and your family?

[imstillthebest]

Gambling can only be seeing as a fun only when you are playing the game with not your real money.

Well, I am glad you are having fun with that, that means you are having fun without taking any risk. But, I'd like to tell you that majority of the gamblers who are having fun would not have fun when they are not risking their money, of course that's including me and my definition of having fun is to gamble by risking a money that you can afford to lose anytime.

I don't think anyone will be playing with his or her hard earned money in the name having fun in gambling with it dude. It will only be fun if and only if you are making profit from playing gambling but once you are losing it will not be fun as usual let be sincere to our selves.

Let us be honest. Having fun almost always means spending some hard earned money. In the first place, we are working hard so that we can support our needs and have some fun. That fun depends on each and every person. It may mean shopping to a lot of ladies. It could mean drinking to a lot of gents. Or it could mean vacation or travel, watching a movie, watching games and concerts, gambling, and so on. It is fun to gamble, win or lose, but it would be much more fun to gamble and win. However, losing is always more probable than winning in gambling.

i dont find fun in gambling with zero bets but the fun only starts once i have a balance i bet something that is large enough  but it also makes me sad angry if i loose all this balance  but not all people are the same   . i see some gamblers that bets a verry tiny bet and he seems to be enjoying with that  . his happiness is only small  . they are the people that will never leave gambling because they can fully control thier selves to not get tempted to up their bets and bust everything they got .

[milewilda]

LOL  It's very easy to say that but in reality what other opportunities you have to win a big amount of money? If you want to make money without gambling you need to have... money! So only gambling can offer you the opportunity to become rich when you have nothing.

This is the fastest and easiest way on making money thats why most or majority of people do end up to have this option due to this possibility thats why
gambling industry becomes so big and profitable because people do always come back and try their luck on changing up their lives.The only issue here
is that addiction what messes out peoples lives where they do commit or experience consequences due to severe addiction.It is indeed hard on making yourself
finding an entertainment or wont stress yourself out when you do know that you do have real money on stake.

In fact gambling industry become big but not everywhere, I think it depends on the culture of the country. There are countries where gambling is a kind of way of life but there are other where it's not perceived as a good thing and people are not fond of it there.

not to mention those countries that has a law against gambling so Banning is what they have for this gaming.

And also you are correct about the Culture because in some places gambling is part of their daily lives and i have witnessed that already,in some "slum" places here in my country there are many people that starts gambling the moment they wake up in the morning.

Well you both have the points which is indeed true about places which do gambling is just like a casual thing into their place where its citizens can fully access without any problems.
Opposite to other places which do have strict rules or laws on prohibiting it.It will really just depend on the government who do handle it out.
Gambling effects can really destroy someones life if you dont know on how to handle yourself towards addiction.Leave while still early if you do
see yourself on being impulsive.

[Betwrong]

That is what we get in gambling. Sometimes we will feel it is difficult to get the win in gambling, and it is better to let the gambling as entertainment without we have a passion for winning the money. If we can realize that, I think we need to leave gambling, and we can search for the other opportunity to make money so we can make our dream come true.

But well, that will not easy because many people are trying to leave gambling, but they feel that it is difficult to do because gambling still attracts them to come to gambling places. If we see that gambling only makes us losing much money, then we need to leave gambling as soon as possible before it's too late.

LOL  It's very easy to say that but in reality what other opportunities you have to win a big amount of money? If you want to make money without gambling you need to have... money! So only gambling can offer you the opportunity to become rich when you have nothing.

I disagree with that, because if you don't have money for making valuable bets, you will hardly win big, unless it's a lottery, and you win the jackpot. Now, you can write a book, and it can become a best seller, and you can earn millions of USD as a result. What are the odds of that, you may ask. Well, pretty much the same as of winning a lottery jackpot.

[Darker45]

Gambling can only be seeing as a fun only when you are playing the game with not your real money.

Well, I am glad you are having fun with that, that means you are having fun without taking any risk. But, I'd like to tell you that majority of the gamblers who are having fun would not have fun when they are not risking their money, of course that's including me and my definition of having fun is to gamble by risking a money that you can afford to lose anytime.

I don't think anyone will be playing with his or her hard earned money in the name having fun in gambling with it dude. It will only be fun if and only if you are making profit from playing gambling but once you are losing it will not be fun as usual let be sincere to our selves.

Let us be honest. Having fun almost always means spending some hard earned money

But do we have to follow this rule in all cases or consider it inevitable, sort of carved in stone?

More specifically, why can't we have fun and earn money in the process? I'm not sure about following a stricter definition of the term here, but if you like your job, like what you are doing and it pays well at that, i.e. enough to make a living, won't your job be a form of fun on its own? I know that this is rarely the case in real life (just rephrasing your words), but is this state unnatural in itself, or is it in fact more unnatural to force yourself or be forced by circumstances to do something which you don't like at all for the sole purpose of providing sustenance for you and your family?

I just love how you bring up discussions into the philosophical level.

This is no rule actually, much less carved in stone. Anybody can have his/her own way of having fun for as long as it does not hurt another.

We belong to different countries with different standards of living, and of course labor realities. From where I am making this post, I would say more than 90% of workers are doing their work out of sheer necessity. I mean, if they could earn the same income elsewhere, they would immediately leave their work. But most of the time, workers here are choosing lesser evils. The problem is that they need the money. They need to eat and buy clothes and pay the house rent or mortgage. They need to send their children to school.

Karl Marx says labor makes man a man. But I guess he was referring to the right way of doing labor wherein, for example, a worker could express his human creativity. That should be the natural state. However, everything regarding labor in my place is on the other side of the fence; long hours, unpaid overtime, low wage, inhumane treatment, and so on. But I guess it is also natural to adapt to the circumstances around you.

[TalkStar]

For me gambling is fun.

Most gamblers take it as fun at the beginning but day by day it turns into addiction for them. Actual problem arise at that moment when they wanna choose it as an option of earning. Its quite tough for them to get out from this habit and its common with most of the gambler. I don't think that they don't want to quit but addiction of making faster profits drive them hard which start to create unexpected problems in their real life. Getting out from this habit isn't an easy task for all but some guys can survive due to their strong self control.

Continuing gambling is okay until it starts to control your own otherwise it will definitely bring negative results for you. Some people still exists who have enough wide luck to make some easy money from gambling but it doesn't works for all. In my personal view i think only they should continue gambling as a daily habit who have enough backup to recover their losses. If you can't afford to lose then its better to keep far distance.

[Bagaji]

Gambling can only be seeing as a fun only when you are playing the game with not your real money.

Well, I am glad you are having fun with that, that means you are having fun without taking any risk. But, I'd like to tell you that majority of the gamblers who are having fun would not have fun when they are not risking their money, of course that's including me and my definition of having fun is to gamble by risking a money that you can afford to lose anytime.

I don't think anyone will be playing with his or her hard earned money in the name having fun in gambling with it dude. It will only be fun if and only if you are making profit from playing gambling but once you are losing it will not be fun as usual let be sincere to our selves.

Let us be honest. Having fun almost always means spending some hard earned money. In the first place, we are working hard so that we can support our needs and have some fun. That fun depends on each and every person. It may mean shopping to a lot of ladies. It could mean drinking to a lot of gents. Or it could mean vacation or travel, watching a movie, watching games and concerts, gambling, and so on. It is fun to gamble, win or lose, but it would be much more fun to gamble and win. However, losing is always more probable than winning in gambling.

Good to know that you have differentiate the word FUN and if make add to what you are mentioned above. Playing gambling as a Fun that people do say simply mean to use your leasure time to play gambling not minding whether you are losing or making profit.

[deisik]

More specifically, why can't we have fun and earn money in the process? I'm not sure about following a stricter definition of the term here, but if you like your job, like what you are doing and it pays well at that, i.e. enough to make a living, won't your job be a form of fun on its own? I know that this is rarely the case in real life (just rephrasing your words), but is this state unnatural in itself, or is it in fact more unnatural to force yourself or be forced by circumstances to do something which you don't like at all for the sole purpose of providing sustenance for you and your family?

I just love how you bring up discussions into the philosophical level

You're welcome, bro!

Other than that, I wouldn't dare to call it a philosophical level (though I wouldn't argue either because it is mostly a matter of convention and personal preference). If anything, it allows to look at the bigger picture and see things from the proper perspective in their true light and color

We belong to different countries with different standards of living, and of course labor realities. From where I am making this post, I would say more than 90% of workers are doing their work out of sheer necessity. I mean, if they could earn the same income elsewhere, they would immediately leave their work. But most of the time, workers here are choosing lesser evils. The problem is that they need the money. They need to eat and buy clothes and pay the house rent or mortgage. They need to send their children to school

Are you sure you are not putting the cart before the horse?

To make it clear, I don't challenge the fact that the total majority of workers are doing what they are doing for a living out of sheer necessity. But isn't it their choice in the end? For example, you may choose family values (and follow them through, then having to send your children to school) or ignore them altogether. Note that I don't make value judgments here as to what is good and what is bad as I'm only pointing out that the necessity you refer to is a result of some choice made at a certain point in the past

[STT]

Fun is the perfect description, its the people relying and leaning on gambling for some idea of money gained who fall into trouble when the idea doesn't hold up.   Obviously its all luck at best, most I hope for is 50/50 on days I win and days I walk away poorer or lost all I took to the tables.   Thats the game, never be too serious or you end up in thread titles like this blaming the game when the only real rule is dont get too serious.
   Dreams are dangerous, you sleep walk into a lamppost best case scenario  

[Bagaji]

Fun is the perfect description, its the people relying and leaning on gambling for some idea of money gained who fall into trouble when the idea doesn't hold up.   Obviously its all luck at best, most I hope for is 50/50 on days I win and days I walk away poorer or lost all I took to the tables.   Thats the game, never be too serious or you end up in thread titles like this blaming the game when the only real rule is dont get too serious.
   Dreams are dangerous, you sleep walk into a lamppost best case scenario  

Seriously, taken gambling too serious is not advisable because you will really be hurt anytime it move against your expectations which is very likely to be in playing gambling. The reason you will walk away poorer is because other people who are smart or the luck is on their side will walk away Richer.

[livingfree]

Fun is the perfect description, its the people relying and leaning on gambling for some idea of money gained who fall into trouble when the idea doesn't hold up.   Obviously its all luck at best, most I hope for is 50/50 on days I win and days I walk away poorer or lost all I took to the tables.   Thats the game, never be too serious or you end up in thread titles like this blaming the game when the only real rule is dont get too serious.
   Dreams are dangerous, you sleep walk into a lamppost best case scenario  

It's okay to dream as long as you know how to get into it in the right way. But those who wants to reach their dreams through shortcuts, they are the ones that will be mostly affected and ends up with a nightmare.

Gambling is fun as it is when you are extracting and absorbing the essence of it but if you go through behind it, you'll have the other feeling.

[Bagaji]

Fun is the perfect description, its the people relying and leaning on gambling for some idea of money gained who fall into trouble when the idea doesn't hold up.   Obviously its all luck at best, most I hope for is 50/50 on days I win and days I walk away poorer or lost all I took to the tables.   Thats the game, never be too serious or you end up in thread titles like this blaming the game when the only real rule is dont get too serious.
   Dreams are dangerous, you sleep walk into a lamppost best case scenario  

It's okay to dream as long as you know how to get into it in the right way. But those who wants to reach their dreams through shortcuts, they are the ones that will be mostly affected and ends up with a nightmare.

Gambling is fun as it is when you are extracting and absorbing the essence of it but if you go through behind it, you'll have the other feeling.

Gambling should not be seen as shortcut for one to make his or her dreams come true because bit require skills and knowledge on how to play smart over other people to be successful in gambling.

[livingfree]

It's okay to dream as long as you know how to get into it in the right way. But those who wants to reach their dreams through shortcuts, they are the ones that will be mostly affected and ends up with a nightmare.

Gambling is fun as it is when you are extracting and absorbing the essence of it but if you go through behind it, you'll have the other feeling.

Gambling should not be seen as shortcut for one to make his or her dreams come true because bit require skills and knowledge on how to play smart over other people to be successful in gambling.

As I've told, as long as you know the right path for reaching your dream. There's no limitation for somebody to dream of anything whether it will be with gambling or the right one, it depends to him/her how they'll get into it.

And the consequence with the shortcuts is also there but what if he's smart too not just through gambling but also in financial management once he has won the prize since you've mentioned the keyword smart.

[bitcoinst]

Gambling can only be seeing as a fun only when you are playing the game with not your real money.

Well, I am glad you are having fun with that, that means you are having fun without taking any risk. But, I'd like to tell you that majority of the gamblers who are having fun would not have fun when they are not risking their money, of course that's including me and my definition of having fun is to gamble by risking a money that you can afford to lose anytime.

I don't think anyone will be playing with his or her hard earned money in the name having fun in gambling with it dude. It will only be fun if and only if you are making profit from playing gambling but once you are losing it will not be fun as usual let be sincere to our selves.

Let us be honest. Having fun almost always means spending some hard earned money

But do we have to follow this rule in all cases or consider it inevitable, sort of carved in stone?

More specifically, why can't we have fun and earn money in the process? I'm not sure about following a stricter definition of the term here, but if you like your job, like what you are doing and it pays well at that, i.e. enough to make a living, won't your job be a form of fun on its own? I know that this is rarely the case in real life (just rephrasing your words), but is this state unnatural in itself, or is it in fact more unnatural to force yourself or be forced by circumstances to do something which you don't like at all for the sole purpose of providing sustenance for you and your family?

You're right. A person should receive money for the occupation that you like to do and bring pleasure.
In this case, he receives both pleasure from the process and a reward in the form of cash and universal recognition.

However, not every person has this kind of work, we can say that such people are a minority.
Therefore, many people go to gambling to have fun there, and as a result, they get addicted to this pleasure to spend heavily earned money on the emotions that gambling gives.

[coin-investor]

A compulsive gambler will just ignore all these points, even if he is aware of these, the addiction is just to hard to ignore, it will just fall into deaf earns or close mind, the only way is for a close family to tell these things to him and urge him to ask for professional help, this is the only way to do that.

[ethereumhunter]

A compulsive gambler will just ignore all these points, even if he is aware of these, the addiction is just to hard to ignore, it will just fall into deaf earns or close mind, the only way is for a close family to tell these things to him and urge him to ask for professional help, this is the only way to do that.

If he realizes about his addiction, then yes, asking for professional help will be the solution. But sometimes, he cannot see that he is in the addiction position because he feels that what he did before is just to playing gambling without feels addicting. But other people who look at him will say that he gets addicted to gambling and he really needs help. Before we can feel that something wrong happens to us, we must leave gambling for a while, and don't come to the gambling place.

[SquallLeonhart]

The problem with people who are addicts and can't stop is the fact that they are already addicts, if it hurts them or destroys them, how could they stop, if they were capable of stopping they would have stopped long ago. I personally had a bad history and had one bad streak of losing money and after that I stopped gambling for a long time, even now I do not gamble all that much, just the competitions and stuff that look interesting and try to spend as little money as possible.

If you are an addict the only thing that can help you would be a willingness to go to a professional help and also do what they say as well, even the people who get help do not recover that properly since they do not want to comply with the help and relapse back so they should both get help but also want to be helped as well.

[KrisAlex18]

People who want to stop gambling just stop. They don't find reasons why not to and excuses why they can't. It's like smoking. You either stop over night or you never stop. All those limitations like I will only smoke 5 a day don't really work. I don't know anyone who has stopped smoking that way.

I am going on holiday in a few days with a couple of friends. All of them are poker and slot machine fans. I am not. We do have sports betting in common though. I already know how much I will spend gambling on sports. We are going to try and win some money to have a better time elsewhere. If it doesn't work it doesn't work.

My point it, It's OK to gamble a little bit but if you get hooked to it, you don't have anyone else to blame but yourself. People recover from cancer, loosing arms and legs in accidents. Those are real problems. Understand what is important in your life. Your health and your family or that feeling you get when you gamble. If you can't differentiate between those two you are lost.

Indeed, do not let gambling destroys you and do not let it change your lifestyle. There are so many ways for you to stop yourself from it. You should find something worthy of spending your precious time. If you are already an addict of playing a gamble game, then you should do some actions to prevent it because if you do not make a move to remove it, then it would be so bad for you, in a way that your family and friends would be affected too.
Stopping the gambling is a step by step procedure, you won't do it in a one day process, you may lessen your time spending on it each of every day. Make a plan or a list of how much time and money that you will spend in gambling, but make sure it is limited.

To be honest, I said many times to stop gambling but I am still here.
that was back when I was still a newbie and sometimes I lose control in gambling and when I spend all my money, I use to regret saying I'll stop as it will only do harm in my life and to my family, but the moment I got the money, I am gambling again, enjoy when I win and regret when I lose.

Eventually I learn to control and that's the reason why I am still here.

Gambling is fun "if you are in control" so let's always be in control.

It is easy for the gamblers to say stop, but it is really hard for them to do it. The winning of gambling is one of the reasons why players become so addicted to it, but strangely, why losing on it wouldn't trigger them from stopping to play. Do not make yourself so used in gambling because that is really not a good thing at all. There is no enough reason for you to stay in gambling aside from winning the game, so I am hoping that losing from it would also stop you.

[hahay]

A compulsive gambler will just ignore all these points, even if he is aware of these, the addiction is just to hard to ignore, it will just fall into deaf earns or close mind, the only way is for a close family to tell these things to him and urge him to ask for professional help, this is the only way to do that.

If he realizes about his addiction, then yes, asking for professional help will be the solution. But sometimes, he cannot see that he is in the addiction position because he feels that what he did before is just to playing gambling without feels addicting. But other people who look at him will say that he gets addicted to gambling and he really needs help. Before we can feel that something wrong happens to us, we must leave gambling for a while, and don't come to the gambling place.

If they are still very lucky in gambling, then they will continue to gamble without having the desire to stop so it is useless for anyone who helps him to leave gambling will not succeed, even though professional assistance has been done. They will not realize if they are gambling addicts if they get greater profits from losing, those who realize they are gambling addicts are those who get lost continuously because that way they will realize if they have to quit gambling.