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February 20, 2020, 06:18:33 PM
Last edit: February 20, 2020, 06:33:13 PM by deisik
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More specifically, why can't we have fun and earn money in the process? I'm not sure about following a stricter definition of the term here, but if you like your job, like what you are doing and it pays well at that, i.e. enough to make a living, won't your job be a form of fun on its own? I know that this is rarely the case in real life (just rephrasing your words), but is this state unnatural in itself, or is it in fact more unnatural to force yourself or be forced by circumstances to do something which you don't like at all for the sole purpose of providing sustenance for you and your family?

You're right. A person should receive money for the occupation that you like to do and bring pleasure.
In this case, he receives both pleasure from the process and a reward in the form of cash and universal recognition

And it is not only that

I can add that this is probably the only way to actually gain true expertise in virtually any field of human activity and stay ahead of the pack. If you obtain some fun from what you are doing, you will be all the more interested in your subject, more motivated and encouraged via positive feedback loops, which would lead to better understanding it and gaining more insights about it

However, not every person has this kind of work, we can say that such people are a minority.
Therefore, many people go to gambling to have fun there, and as a result, they get addicted to this pleasure to spend heavily earned money on the emotions that gambling gives

So what's the bottom line? Right, we should be looking for jobs and occupations that offer us true satisfaction, fun and pleasure. And then we will feel no need to gamble

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February 20, 2020, 10:51:14 PM
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Really hard to understand what you have written over here. Some of your words contradicts with each other. Did you use some sort of translator to make this post, because if you did, then yeah, it messed it all up. Or is it just language barrier?
Anyway, I got what you are trying to say over here. But, trust me, it is more hard to execute what you have written over here. You can easily make a list and tell people what to do in order to quit gambling, but its not easy for the gambler.
One should not hesitate to take help from professionals if gambling is causing serious problem in their life.

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February 20, 2020, 11:05:10 PM
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So what's the bottom line? Right, we should be looking for jobs and occupations that offer us true satisfaction, fun and pleasure. And then we will feel no need to gamble

The problem with the gambling addicts is that another option has almost no impact on them.  All in their mind is to be able to gamble and feed their addiction with it.  Stopping in gambling is very easy to those who are in control but very difficult to those who are already trapped and addicted.  Getting away from gambling activity need more effort if a person has already a gambling problem.  So finding other things that will cover their time or divert them from gambling needs other people that will encourage and at least guide them out of their gambling addiction. 

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February 20, 2020, 11:23:13 PM
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Really hard to understand what you have written over here. Some of your words contradicts with each other. Did you use some sort of translator to make this post, because if you did, then yeah, it messed it all up. Or is it just language barrier?
Anyway, I got what you are trying to say over here. But, trust me, it is more hard to execute what you have written over here. You can easily make a list and tell people what to do in order to quit gambling, but its not easy for the gambler.
One should not hesitate to take help from professionals if gambling is causing serious problem in their life.

True that, wtf does this even mean;

"Family: in this case it is prioritized, first the family in the number position......now the family is made number 1 more time with family."

Literally no clue.





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February 21, 2020, 08:12:08 AM
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Sorry in advance whether this topic has been created or not.
I often see topics related to stop gambling.

Arise in my mind, everyone is easy to say stop gambling but doing it is very difficult.
So I have the urge that every individual can stop gambling by having the seven elements that I give below.

Thought:
Many gambling addicts think to stop, but emotional problems that encourage individuals to have more money when winning in gambling games, the biggest impact is the opposite that gets is defeat, not to mention the impact on the family when problems arise: "I want to stop gambling". Out of the mouth.

All that is based on the mind, no, sincerely to stop gambling.

There are things you need to remember to stop gambling, not based on money, money is just greed: again, again and again.

To stop gambling there are some addicts to do.

1. Intention: the main capital intention in determining individuals to stop gambling, if someone has a strong determination to stop it will have the percentage of someone actually quitting gambling.
2. Individual mindset: this is very heavy, most difficult for many heavy addicts to do.
The mindset of individuals used to associate with gambling gangs, the mafia, now change the mindset and associate with wise, good, and respectable people, little by little addicts will wake up and the days are full of good deeds.
3. Family: in this case it is prioritized, first the family in the number position......now the family is made number 1 more time with family.
4. Hobbies: this also supports to stop playing gambling, used to be a hobby of balls, horse racing or elements that easily fall prey to gambling, now switch hobbies that do not blend gambling, such as reading, hard work, etc.
5. Debt: if the habit of debt, for now stop, accept it as is, do not look too much up, multiply look down, which needs to be remembered, above the sky there is still sky, below the ground there is still land, thankful.
6. Positive: positive thinking can also encourage someone to be more confident, first thinking evil now thinking positive patterns.
7. Greedy and emotional: stay away from this trait, if you lose in a bet you think placing more bets to win, it's all gone, you get sheer destruction, so you, have to take decision number 5 "debt" front of destruction for your, that's for sure.

If you do the above I believe that anyone can get rid of the habit of gambling.
The important thing to do something that must be a commitment in determining success.

For me gambling is fun.

For me, the first two things that was given is the most important. The intention and individual mindset. Before you stop gambling, it takes courage from yourself that you will stop. It is not bad to play any gambling game but it is bad when you are getting addicted to it. The other things are just minor factors because you are the only one that will help yourself to stop in gambling.

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February 21, 2020, 08:58:41 AM
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So what's the bottom line? Right, we should be looking for jobs and occupations that offer us true satisfaction, fun and pleasure. And then we will feel no need to gamble

The problem with the gambling addicts is that another option has almost no impact on them.  All in their mind is to be able to gamble and feed their addiction with it.  Stopping in gambling is very easy to those who are in control but very difficult to those who are already trapped and addicted.  Getting away from gambling activity need more effort if a person has already a gambling problem.  So finding other things that will cover their time or divert them from gambling needs other people that will encourage and at least guide them out of their gambling addiction

That's because they are obsessed

By the gods of gambling or with Miss Fortune I guess. Kidding aside, when you are passionately involved with something (or with someone, for that matter), your perspective becomes very narrow. You stop noticing things around you, and the same is true with respect to gamblers. The thing is, they don't see other options because they kind of don't want to see them for being so deeply engaged in gambling that they can't think of anything else but gambling more and more, irrespective of losses and harm

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February 21, 2020, 09:13:38 AM
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I think there is many people who wish they could take your advice to just leave gambling when it destroys their life
But just like any other disease this is much easier said then done
You made a good list for points and I agree that you need to find better hobbies if you life is becoming ruined from playing in casinos or other games

This is some helpful information too:
https://www.helpguide.org/articles/addictions/gambling-addiction-and-problem-gambling.htm

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February 21, 2020, 05:16:30 PM
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Leave gambling if you cannot handle it. Simple. If you cannot handle drinking, leave it. Relationships,,, leave them. It is not gambling that is bad, it is the person who cannot control it.

Really hard to understand what you have written over here. Some of your words contradicts with each other. Did you use some sort of translator to make this post, because if you did, then yeah, it messed it all up. Or is it just language barrier?
Anyway, I got what you are trying to say over here. But, trust me, it is more hard to execute what you have written over here. You can easily make a list and tell people what to do in order to quit gambling, but its not easy for the gambler.
One should not hesitate to take help from professionals if gambling is causing serious problem in their life.

Yes he did, most likely. You know, I never get why people do that. I also do not speak English as a first language but people understand me well enough. I even had a guy from England told me before, half of English people cannot speak good English.

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February 22, 2020, 12:26:07 PM
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A compulsive gambler will just ignore all these points, even if he is aware of these, the addiction is just to hard to ignore, it will just fall into deaf earns or close mind, the only way is for a close family to tell these things to him and urge him to ask for professional help, this is the only way to do that.

If he realizes about his addiction, then yes, asking for professional help will be the solution. But sometimes, he cannot see that he is in the addiction position because he feels that what he did before is just to playing gambling without feels addicting. But other people who look at him will say that he gets addicted to gambling and he really needs help. Before we can feel that something wrong happens to us, we must leave gambling for a while, and don't come to the gambling place.
This is the main problem that a gambler used to faces daily. If you are showing other people that how much you are winning from gaming then they will get jealous from you and will start talking wrong about you so don't stop gambling only for other people but try to earn huge profit and collect money then everyone will love you and you will be famous for the successful gambler.
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February 22, 2020, 02:50:03 PM
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Leave gambling if you cannot handle it. Simple. If you cannot handle drinking, leave it. Relationships,,, leave them. It is not gambling that is bad, it is the person who cannot control it.
You included relationships here and I agree with this. If you can't handle the risks in gambling then leave. If you don't love your couple then leave it Cheesy. If you can't drink anymore beer then leave or stop. Gambling already has a bad portrait for the most of the people because of its effects to the people who are doing it.

We can't blame then since it is their body and mind. My point here is that, if you can't control yourself in gambling, leave and don't gamble again and don't wait for gambling to destroy yourself.

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February 23, 2020, 10:38:10 AM
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Most gamblers take it as fun at the beginning but day by day it turns into addiction for them. Actual problem arise at that moment when they wanna choose it as an option of earning. Its quite tough for them to get out from this habit and its common with most of the gambler.

It's different from region to region, but from what I know, only from 2% to 15% of people involved with gambling can be classified as problem gamblers. I think it's dangerous to state that most of the gamblers are addicted because, apart from being not true, it can serve as an excuse for those who gamble too much for not stopping and not going to therapy. When most people are doing something it is considered kind of a norm. Problem gamblers must be aware of the fact that they are not normal gamblers, they are the suffering minority, who should do something about their addiction immediately.

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February 24, 2020, 04:59:09 AM
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I'm a gambler but not addicted,
So, if you can't control yourself, you shouldn't gamble anymore.
You will never know if you have self control if you wont try to gamble.

I think we should keep in mind from the very start why we like to gamble, is it to have fun or for money?

If a person become addicted it will be hard to return back to the old self because of your mindset to win in gambling.

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February 24, 2020, 06:37:10 AM
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I'm a gambler but not addicted,
About 1 million people in the United States is living with gambling addiction problems. When a person becomes addicted, he continues to gamble on a regular basis, even though it threatens his personal life and family life. So, if you can't control yourself, you shouldn't gamble anymore.

It's about time to see if you can still control yourself or not because I see many people playing gambling, and they can control themselves in the first year of playing gambling. But then, after they have the experience to know how they can win the gambling games, they change their mind because they think that they can win in the gambling games. So they slowly lose control of gambling, they use more money in gambling, and even they start to become addicted to gambling. So yes, gambling will become a problem for someone if he cannot control himself, and once we feel that the things become worst, we must leave gambling as soon as possible before it is too late to realize.

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February 24, 2020, 07:22:02 AM
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This points are golden rules for gambler. One of the major reason gamblers doesn't find it easy to quit is the intention to win back their money after losing. This is a great secret for obsession and it always leads to more losses. The greatest solution is to counter your mindset of winning the money back and let it go then you stop immediately. This has helped alot.
They chase their losses because they can’t afford to lose money or they need it badly and rely on gambling too much. It is hard to quit, and if you really want to quit then give it a try and seek some good advices. Don’t just wait for gambling to destroy you, be a responsible one and make no regrets in your gambling journey.


If we're concern about our future situation then we should know our limits. We all know the risks of gambling addiction so we must not have it as a regular source of income because there's no guarantee of winning in gambling.
The result of our gambling mostly base only in our luck and it will be a big risk if we'll only rely things in our luck without even having a small assurance of gaining something.
We should know when to stop and when to continue so we will be able to handle our funds wisely.
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February 24, 2020, 07:38:36 AM
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If we're concern about our future situation then we should know our limits. We all know the risks of gambling addiction so we must not have it as a regular source of income because there's no guarantee of winning in gambling.
The result of our gambling mostly base only in our luck and it will be a big risk if we'll only rely things in our luck without even having a small assurance of gaining something.
We should know when to stop and when to continue so we will be able to handle our funds wisely.

Its difficult to know when to stop and no one can stop at a perfect time.

1-If you are winning in gambling, you keep on playing because you think that you can win or earn more from gambling.

2-If you are losing, you keep on playing because you think you can play more and recover your previous loses.

The only way to play safe is to set your targets prior to playing like you will stop playing if you win certain amount of money and you will also stop if you lose certain amount of money.
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February 24, 2020, 10:57:25 AM
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Its difficult to know when to stop and no one can stop at a perfect time.

1-If you are winning in gambling, you keep on playing because you think that you can win or earn more from gambling.
This is alright as long as you don't end up losing in the end, you should have a limit and then stop regardless of the amount of win, the catch here is, at least you start with a profit.


2-If you are losing, you keep on playing because you think you can play more and recover your previous loses.

I think most of us are guilty on this, personally I have this kind of attitude too and even if I can say I am more discipline now but I cannot assure I would not fall to this kind of mistake again.

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February 24, 2020, 12:05:40 PM
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A compulsive gambler will just ignore all these points, even if he is aware of these, the addiction is just to hard to ignore, it will just fall into deaf earns or close mind, the only way is for a close family to tell these things to him and urge him to ask for professional help, this is the only way to do that.

If he realizes about his addiction, then yes, asking for professional help will be the solution. But sometimes, he cannot see that he is in the addiction position because he feels that what he did before is just to playing gambling without feels addicting. But other people who look at him will say that he gets addicted to gambling and he really needs help. Before we can feel that something wrong happens to us, we must leave gambling for a while, and don't come to the gambling place.
This is the main problem that a gambler used to faces daily. If you are showing other people that how much you are winning from gaming then they will get jealous from you and will start talking wrong about you so don't stop gambling only for other people but try to earn huge profit and collect money then everyone will love you and you will be famous for the successful gambler.

You don't need to tell other people about your winning if you think that will make you get in trouble. You need to leave the gambling as soon as possible if you win so not many gamblers will know about your winning. That can also prevent you from the worst situations that might make you in a trap in the gambling. We always need to remember that we don't need to stay in gambling if we feel it is very difficult to win because saving our money will be important to us.

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February 24, 2020, 12:25:29 PM
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LOL  Cheesy It's very easy to say that but in reality what other opportunities you have to win a big amount of money? If you want to make money without gambling you need to have... money! So only gambling can offer you the opportunity to become rich when you have nothing.
This is the fastest and easiest way on making money thats why most or majority of people do end up to have this option due to this possibility thats why
gambling industry becomes so big and profitable because people do always come back and try their luck on changing up their lives.The only issue here
is that addiction what messes out peoples lives where they do commit or experience consequences due to severe addiction.It is indeed hard on making yourself
finding an entertainment or wont stress yourself out when you do know that you do have real money on stake.
In fact gambling industry become big but not everywhere, I think it depends on the culture of the country. There are countries where gambling is a kind of way of life but there are other where it's not perceived as a good thing and people are not fond of it there.
not to mention those countries that has a law against gambling so Banning is what they have for this gaming.

And also you are correct about the Culture because in some places gambling is part of their daily lives and i have witnessed that already,in some "slum" places here in my country there are many people that starts gambling the moment they wake up in the morning.
Well you both have the points which is indeed true about places which do gambling is just like a casual thing into their place where its citizens can fully access without any problems.
Opposite to other places which do have strict rules or laws on prohibiting it.It will really just depend on the government who do handle it out.
Gambling effects can really destroy someones life if you dont know on how to handle yourself towards addiction.Leave while still early if you do
see yourself on being impulsive.
absolutely correct mate and indeed you have pointed the bottom line,it is still our Own attitude will bring us to decision making,if you know that there is no way you can handle gambling rightfully then better leave it earlier before it gets into your system and turns you to being addicted.









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February 24, 2020, 12:35:04 PM
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I'm all good. Yeah, i've lost a lot compared to what I won but it doesn't destroy me. Things will be complicated only if you are choosing gambling first before your priorities like family, expenses, etc. Greediness will lead you to nothing. In my case, I'm playing for how many years already but I can say I'm good because when it comes to real life priorities, I always chose it first. Eventhough I can't stop myself from playing atleast I set aside my gambling habit when it comes to priorities.
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February 24, 2020, 05:11:46 PM
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Its difficult to know when to stop and no one can stop at a perfect time.

1-If you are winning in gambling, you keep on playing because you think that you can win or earn more from gambling.

2-If you are losing, you keep on playing because you think you can play more and recover your previous loses.

The only way to play safe is to set your targets prior to playing like you will stop playing if you win certain amount of money and you will also stop if you lose certain amount of money.

This is a reasonable approach and it reminds me of trading. Professional traders clearly know the loss cut-off point and the point at which profits should be taken. The problem is that people suffering from gaming addiction are irrational and at the beginning of the game they don’t even think about how to properly end it.

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