[Discussion & Betting] Eurovision Song Contest 2020 - CANCELLED

[Saint-loup]

Netherlands comes with a pretty common and anecdotal "soul" song, the song is a kind of blues with negro spirituals choirs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMcxWB90TTY

Switzerland chose a 100% french song this year. It won't become a hit sale IMO, but the voice of this albanian guy is really beautiful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ryl3FaM3-U

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[tyKiwanuka]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMcxWB90TTY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ryl3FaM3-U

Don't like both. While odds for Netherlands remained unchanged more or less, Switzerlands odds have dropped quite a lot.


Ireland has revealed their entry too now: Lesley Roy "Story Of My Life"

I like it, but odds have gone up

Bulgaria's song from Victoria is now known as well ("Tears Getting Sober"), but couldn't find it on Youtube yet.


It's now only missing these countries with their songs (some artists are already known):

North Macedonia
Russia
Sweden
Azerbaijan
Malta
San Marino
Denmark
Finland
Portugal


Since we talked about the ratio english vs non-english songs earlier, which often was around 75/25, I had a look in which language the winning entries were sung since 2000:

English: 15
English & Other: 3
Domestic: 2 (Serbian & Portuguese)

[Saint-loup]

Ireland has revealed their entry too now: Lesley Roy "Story Of My Life"

I like it, but odds have gone up

Nice song, very "Katy Perry" styled but nice song I think.
BTW AFAIK Austria has revealed its official song this morning, and it's not the one you've quoted (while it's the right singer though) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOuiTJlBC50

Same thing for Greece, it's still Stefania, but it's another song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83ncXE_fOtI

[tyKiwanuka]

Nice song, very "Katy Perry" styled but nice song I think.

Katy Perry was the first thing that came to my mind too

Have updated the first post with Austria and Greece, not sure what went wrong there. I will have to go through the list anyway and link all entries to the Eurovision Youtube channel (when they finally put all songs there). Then we can do some statistics with views, up-/downvote etc. Those stats are often a bit misleading, but give some kind of an overview nevertheless - and it's some fun to watch the changes over the weeks leading up to the ESC.

[Saint-loup]

Have updated the first post with Austria and Greece, not sure what went wrong there.

It must be some scammers, seeking more subscribers and views on their YT channel I suppose.
Cyprus has revealed its (real) entry today

Sandro Nicolas – Running
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwwv348eDMA

[Saint-loup]

OMG   the infamous (big) Mamas have won the swedish Melodifestivalen. WTF! It will be the second time in a row they will represent Sweden   I really hope they will finish out of the top 10  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wufoQX66ufw

[tyKiwanuka]

OMG   the infamous (big) Mamas have won the swedish Melodifestivalen. WTF!

Well, that is really quite a surprise Tbf all girls (or should I say Mamas) are very good singers. I just don't think this song will give Sweden higher chances of winning ESC. Odds have gone up accordingly to 30+.


Bulgaria has revealed Victorias Song "Tears Getting Sober": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_hgYnwZR8I

I like it, and now know why Bulgaria has been among the favourites all the time, but I am afraid that it will sound very different live.


Finland will send Aksel Kankaanranta with "Looking Back": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1aFarZxWQM

Too boring to make any noise I would think. Odds 200+


With only few entries missing now, I still didn't find that one song I can cheer for (and bet on !). Lithuania is odds favourite for now and for my liking this is correct. I am curious about Russia though. From the previous songs from this band, I would think their yet to be revealed song could be very well liked by the audience in all Europe. Combined with some crazy stage performance, they could take the trophy home.

[LTU_btc]

I like Sweden song, but I'm not sure that such gospel style is Eurovision material. Bulgaria sounds good, but I agree that it would be interesting to see live performance on the stage. And Finland - not great, not terrible, it's just boring.

With only few entries missing now, I still didn't find that one song I can cheer for (and bet on !). Lithuania is odds favourite for now and for my liking this is correct. I am curious about Russia though. From the previous songs from this band, I would think their yet to be revealed song could be very well liked by the audience in all Europe. Combined with some crazy stage performance, they could take the trophy home.

You know, I'm biased about Lithuania . But I agree about Russia. I watched most of their clips and it's crazy. Maybe their songs isn't something amazing, it's more about clips. It's interesting what they will be able to show on stage. Iceland song is interesting and not typical. Either they will be one of favorites or they will fail completely.

[tyKiwanuka]

I like Sweden song, but I'm not sure that such gospel style is Eurovision material.

I think every thing song/style is fine. ESC is about variety, uniqueness, crazyness and history has shown that a lot of different genres of songs can be successful at ESC. It's not always about winning, Top5 is a great achievement too already. But as said earlier, I too think, that it's not the song, that will give Sweden the best shot at winning the ESC. But if it's the song the swedish people like(d) the most, that is fine. It's by no means a bad song, but there were better ones imo. But anyway, you should be happy, since Sweden doesn't seem to be a competitior for Lithuania anymore


Portugal will send Elisa with "Medo de sentir": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-aAPJAr0gs

With such songs it's very important to understand the lyrics and thats quite difficult (=impossible) for non-potuguese speaking people. So I don't think Portugal will get past the semi-final.


Senhit from San Marino has posted her two possible songs on her website and you can vote which song should be presented at ESC:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vWNm8R7rOo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crd8x_nbbJA

I think both songs aren't something special, but to show some support, I voted for Freaky. It won't matter which songs gets voted to Rotterdam, because she won't survive the semi-final anyway (at least odds of 600+ suggest that).

[tyKiwanuka]

I think the deadline is today, so we got some news.

Fans voted the song "Freaky" form Senhit for San Marino: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6ZNo_hVA6E


North Macedonia revealed the song "You" from Vasil: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPZumQQExQc


Malta has been among the favourites all the time and now we know their entry as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFCn_8oViRw

Girl can sing. She finished 6th in Britain's Got Talent and won Maltese X Factor. Malta has quite a horrible record at ESC, but this year might be different. I can see this song in Top3.


Now it's just missing Azerbaijan and Russia. Meanwhile Bulgaria has taken the lead in the betting market, but there is no strong favourite for now and things might/will change in the next weeks.

[Saint-loup]

Malta has been among the favourites all the time and now we know their entry as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFCn_8oViRw

Girl can sing. She finished 6th in Britain's Got Talent and won Maltese X Factor. Malta has quite a horrible record at ESC, but this year might be different. I can see this song in Top3.

So it's another "soul" song...   How many are there this year?  
May I suggest to these countries to candidate with some K-pop songs next year?  
More seriously I don't find anything from these countries in those songs, they don't even use a single word in their own language...  
Azerbaijian has revealed its song, and it's a big surprise. Could finish in the top10 IMO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0VzBCvO1Wk

[tyKiwanuka]

So it's another "soul" song...   How many are there this year?  

  There are a lot of songs that sound the same to my uneducated ear. That is why I like Lithuania and look forward to Russia.

Azerbaijian has revealed its song, and it's a big surprise. Could finish in the top10 IMO

Odds suggest that too, they have come down quite a bit for Azerbaijan.


I have updated the OP and all links now lead to Eurovision Youtube channel. It's just missing the (official) videos for Russia, Serbia, Albania, Armenia, Denmark and Italy. Russia will only announce their song on Thursday I read.

These are the five most viewed until now. Some songs are on the channel already for ages, so naturally they have more views than recently added ones, but still interesting:

UK 921,309
Ukraine 916,556
Netherlands 827,640
Australia 809,696
Norway 726,488

[Saint-loup]

So it's another "soul" song...   How many are there this year?  

  There are a lot of songs that sound the same to my uneducated ear. That is why I like Lithuania and look forward to Russia.

Azerbaijian has revealed its song, and it's a big surprise. Could finish in the top10 IMO

Odds suggest that too, they have come down quite a bit for Azerbaijan.


I have updated the OP and all links now lead to Eurovision Youtube channel. It's just missing the (official) videos for Russia, Serbia, Albania, Armenia, Denmark and Italy. Russia will only announce their song on Thursday I read.

These are the five most viewed until now. Some songs are on the channel already for ages, so naturally they have more views than recently added ones, but still interesting:

UK 921,309
Ukraine 916,556
Netherlands 827,640
Australia 809,696
Norway 726,488

You've made an amazing job until now, TYVM for that, I'll send you more merits when I'll be able to do it.
So it seems we have to wait 2 more days to discover the last entry, I hope it will be a good surprise too.
But I must confess I don't really understand why Bulgaria is currently the top dog...   Even if it's a pretty good song, I don't find it very special...

BTW nobody has said anything about it but Denmark is very close to Sweden as for now...(in the top 15)

Azerbaijan already 240 000 views

[tyKiwanuka]

You've made an amazing job until now, TYVM for that

Merci beaucoup Thank you too, for posting updates here and helping me out.
The best is yet to come, when the betting markets shape up and more and more options are available. Looking especially forward to the H2H bets.

But I must confess I don't really understand why Bulgaria is currently the top dog...  Even if it's a pretty good song, I don't find it very special...

I quite like it. It has some sadness and melancholy in it, which I find very comfortable and calming - sounds strange, I know^^. As with other entries, a lot will depend on the live performance (in this case the vocals).

Azerbaijan already 240 000 views

Thats quite a lot considering it was only put up on the channel today. The national selection video from The Roop on Eurovision channel has already over 3.8mln views, but for OP I took the official video as for all participants: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EAUxuuu1w8

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Albania has modified their entry a bit btw and the song also has a new name.

[Saint-loup]

You've made an amazing job until now, TYVM for that

Merci beaucoup Thank you too, for posting updates here and helping me out.
The best is yet to come, when the betting markets shape up and more and more options are available. Looking especially forward to the H2H bets.

There is a platform with H2H bets on Eurovision?

Albania has modified their entry a bit btw and the song also has a new name.

I didn't see that. So they've revamped the song, and translated the lyrics in english...
Well I prefer the original version.

[tyKiwanuka]

There is a platform with H2H bets on Eurovision?

I am not sure, what the crypto books will be offering, but the FIAT bookies always have a lot of betting markets for ESC. In the past this included H2H bets, group bets, finishing Top10/Top5/Top3/last, over/under points and finishing position for countries, jury winner, televoting winner and basically anything you can think of. The inplay market at Betfair is going nuts once the points announcements start -  prices going up and down like crazy then.
A thing that is always very funny, is, when the first country announces their points from televoting. The odds for the country they give their 12 points to, will drop like crazy. And if those 12 points are maybe some friendly points (Cyprus giving 12 points to Greece), this is insane to watch, because it doesn't reflect the voting reality. But there are a lot of traders in this market and they will look to buy high and sell low.


If this Corona virus keeps on spreading like it does, especially in the Netherlands, I fear it might have some effect on the ESC as well. Lets hope the peak is reached soon and everything gets more under control afterwards.

[FatFork]

If this Corona virus keeps on spreading like it does, especially in the Netherlands, I fear it might have some effect on the ESC as well. Lets hope the peak is reached soon and everything gets more under control afterwards.

If the situation continues to develop at this pace, it seems that there will be no ESC. According to the Dutch virologist, all big events are likely to be canceled.
The ESC may still be held, however, in delayed dates.

[Saint-loup]

If this Corona virus keeps on spreading like it does, especially in the Netherlands, I fear it might have some effect on the ESC as well. Lets hope the peak is reached soon and everything gets more under control afterwards.

If the situation continues to develop at this pace, it seems that there will be no ESC. According to the Dutch virologist, all big events are likely to be canceled.
The ESC may still be held, however, in delayed dates.

What? Where have you seen that please? Do you have a link about that?
They could easily organize it without public or very few public. Eurovision doesn't need all this public and journalists. It's a TV show.

There is a platform with H2H bets on Eurovision?

I am not sure, what the crypto books will be offering, but the FIAT bookies always have a lot of betting markets for ESC. In the past this included H2H bets, group bets, finishing Top10/Top5/Top3/last, over/under points and finishing position for countries, jury winner, televoting winner and basically anything you can think of. The inplay market at Betfair is going nuts once the points announcements start -  prices going up and down like crazy then.
A thing that is always very funny, is, when the first country announces their points from televoting. The odds for the country they give their 12 points to, will drop like crazy. And if those 12 points are maybe some friendly points (Cyprus giving 12 points to Greece), this is insane to watch, because it doesn't reflect the voting reality. But there are a lot of traders in this market and they will look to buy high and sell low.

Unfortunately Betfair is forbidden in my country. But if you see some other platforms offering those kind of bets (H2H etc) feel free to report them here.

[LTU_btc]

Speaking about last announced songs, I liked Azerbaijan - it sounds good and I expect it to see it in TOP 10.
Does anyone know when Russia will release their song - I only saw little part of it leaked on Youtube.

What? Where have you seen that please? Do you have a link about that?
They could easily organize it without public or very few public. Eurovision doesn't need all this public and journalists. It's a TV show.

Eurovision without public wouldn't look good, but it's possible scenario. Offcourse, there is plenty of time until May, let's hope that spread of virus will be stopped until it.

[tyKiwanuka]

Unfortunately Betfair is forbidden in my country. But if you see some other platforms offering those kind of bets (H2H etc) feel free to report them here.

Betfair is geo-restricted here too, but there are workarounds with white-label exchanges. Probably not worth it though, if you are fun bettor or only play with small stakes (no offense meant here). Will post as soon as I find markets on "normal" bookies.

Does anyone know when Russia will release their song - I only saw little part of it leaked on Youtube.

It was said to be announced today, but it's already late-ish in Russia now and I haven't seen anything official