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May 24, 2020, 05:43:57 AM |
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~ If they started doing this then it might sound like a bragging for majority.
What i meant was whether some players in these private tournaments get funding from bitcoin for inside information ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . Their bank accounts are clean and it is possible they could hide a bitcoin transaction from the authorities. Fair enough.. you might be correct, we should never rule out the possibility of corruption when big money is on the line. IMO every T-20 league in the world do their fair amount of shady activities as far as financing is concern, so yeah its possible.
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May 24, 2020, 06:42:26 AM |
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~ If they started doing this then it might sound like a bragging for majority.
What i meant was whether some players in these private tournaments get funding from bitcoin for inside information ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . Their bank accounts are clean and it is possible they could hide a bitcoin transaction from the authorities. Fair enough.. you might be correct, we should never rule out the possibility of corruption when big money is on the line. IMO every T-20 league in the world do their fair amount of shady activities as far as financing is concern, so yeah its possible. So it means nothing is fair in the sports. Even the sports promote fairness and sports like Fifa has awards for the Fair Play games. I always think what players get by collecting the illegal black money, when they earn legal money in form of handsome salaries and contracts.
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May 24, 2020, 06:54:03 AM |
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~ If they started doing this then it might sound like a bragging for majority.
What i meant was whether some players in these private tournaments get funding from bitcoin for inside information ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . Their bank accounts are clean and it is possible they could hide a bitcoin transaction from the authorities. Fair enough.. you might be correct, we should never rule out the possibility of corruption when big money is on the line. IMO every T-20 league in the world do their fair amount of shady activities as far as financing is concern, so yeah its possible. So it means nothing is fair in the sports. Even the sports promote fairness and sports like Fifa has awards for the Fair Play games. I always think what players get by collecting the illegal black money, when they earn legal money in form of handsome salaries and contracts. Like i said we can't avoid any possibility even if its less than 1%. Nothing is perfect anyway, And we shouldn't be so naive to think that fixing or corruption doesn't happen , if that was the case then no sport body in the world would have their own version of "Anti corruption unit" at the first place, I would say its all about scale and high-low profile.
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May 24, 2020, 08:25:36 AM |
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~ If they started doing this then it might sound like a bragging for majority.
What i meant was whether some players in these private tournaments get funding from bitcoin for inside information ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . Their bank accounts are clean and it is possible they could hide a bitcoin transaction from the authorities. Fair enough.. you might be correct, we should never rule out the possibility of corruption when big money is on the line. IMO every T-20 league in the world do their fair amount of shady activities as far as financing is concern, so yeah its possible. So it means nothing is fair in the sports. Even the sports promote fairness and sports like Fifa has awards for the Fair Play games. I always think what players get by collecting the illegal black money, when they earn legal money in form of handsome salaries and contracts. Like i said we can't avoid any possibility even if its less than 1%. Nothing is perfect anyway, And we shouldn't be so naive to think that fixing or corruption doesn't happen , if that was the case then no sport body in the world would have their own version of "Anti corruption unit" at the first place, I would say its all about scale and high-low profile. If anyone is doing anything wrong he is doing for himself and shall pay for it in some way. We should be positive with our thinking and if nothing is proved against any player, we should consider them 100% Honest and fair. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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May 24, 2020, 12:34:11 PM |
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Hopefully we have very long list of cricketers invested in bitcoin as its good for them and their activities ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I don't know investment is bitcoin is good for the cricketers or not. For sure, the match fixing takes place in bitcoins and other crypto currencies so there are no traces of transactions found for illegal money transfers. I am sure every cricketers and politicians have their hidden crypto accounts. How can you say this? Match fixing was at its peak during the 1990s, when the Sharjah Cup was being held and Mohammed Azharuddin was the Indian captain. Back then there were no Bitcoins. Bitcoin was invented at least a decade later. And nowadays, match fixing is extremely rare. Player salaries have increased by a great deal, and for them it is not worth the risk to get involved in fixing the matches.
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May 24, 2020, 04:10:00 PM |
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Hopefully we have very long list of cricketers invested in bitcoin as its good for them and their activities ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I don't know investment is bitcoin is good for the cricketers or not. For sure, the match fixing takes place in bitcoins and other crypto currencies so there are no traces of transactions found for illegal money transfers. I am sure every cricketers and politicians have their hidden crypto accounts. How can you say this? Match fixing was at its peak during the 1990s, when the Sharjah Cup was being held and Mohammed Azharuddin was the Indian captain. Back then there were no Bitcoins. Bitcoin was invented at least a decade later. And nowadays, match fixing is extremely rare. Player salaries have increased by a great deal, and for them it is not worth the risk to get involved in fixing the matches. I believe that umer didn't mean to say that match fixing and corruption never happened prior the usage of Bitcoin instead with Bitcoin it's easier and less risky to transfer the funds.
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May 24, 2020, 08:36:22 PM Last edit: May 25, 2020, 11:08:21 AM by 7788bitcoin |
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How can you say this? Match fixing was at its peak during the 1990s, when the Sharjah Cup was being held and Mohammed Azharuddin was the Indian captain. Back then there were no Bitcoins. Bitcoin was invented at least a decade later. And nowadays, match fixing is extremely rare. Player salaries have increased by a great deal, and for them it is not worth the risk to get involved in fixing the matches.
The payment in IPL is pretty lucrative and yet there are many match fixing allegations against many players and if i remember correctly teams were dissolved because the team owners were involved in match fixing, match fixing has nothing to do with bitcoin but match fixing is nothing new and not that extremely rare and i wont be surprised if these dubious activities are carried out through bitcoin or other similar cryptocurrencies. Inside information leaks and other activities will continue and spot fixing will continue and the world will know only if there is a big bust.
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May 25, 2020, 01:50:10 PM |
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@akhjob and 7788bitcoin
I understand what you are saying. Still I don't agree. It's just like online drug trade. The authorities claim that Bitcoin is mostly used for illegal activities. But detailed research has shown that less than 1% of all the Bitcoin volumes are any way connected to illegal transactions. Similarly, I would say that even now fiat cash is being used in 99% of the instances of match fixing.
BTW, I am not going to counter the involvement of IPL team owners in match fixing, as posted by 7788bitcoin. It's a well known fact.
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May 26, 2020, 01:39:19 PM |
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Well corrupt people only care about illegitimate earnings, they don't care if its in form of Bitcoin, Fiat or Real Estate (even goats ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) )as long as their needs are fulfill. so everything is possible.
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May 26, 2020, 04:03:28 PM |
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Well corrupt people only care about illegitimate earnings, they don't care if its in form of Bitcoin, Fiat or Real Estate (even goats ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) )as long as their needs are fulfill. so everything is possible. For the subcontinental players, payments in Bitcoin are not that convenient. Bitcoin is not completely legalized in any of the countries. Even if some player receives bribes in the form of Bitcoin, he would face a lot of difficulty in converting it back to fiat cash or some other mainstream asset in an anonymous manner. My guess is that most of them would opt for cash payments.
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May 27, 2020, 10:58:36 PM |
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@akhjob and 7788bitcoin
I understand what you are saying. Still I don't agree. It's just like online drug trade. The authorities claim that Bitcoin is mostly used for illegal activities. But detailed research has shown that less than 1% of all the Bitcoin volumes are any way connected to illegal transactions. Similarly, I would say that even now fiat cash is being used in 99% of the instances of match fixing.
BTW, I am not going to counter the involvement of IPL team owners in match fixing, as posted by 7788bitcoin. It's a well known fact.
I am not under the idea that bitcoin is solely used for illegal activities, if you look at the percentage fiat currency is more secure to carry on illegal activities as it does not have a tail to follow unless you have marked bills and that is not the case with bitcoin, every transaction is marked and if anyone carries out a transaction and if your wallets are known you are busted. I was talking about the match fixing and it is carrying on as usual but we never know or hear about them until and unless there is a breaking news, this is the situation in every sport. Well corrupt people only care about illegitimate earnings, they don't care if its in form of Bitcoin, Fiat or Real Estate (even goats ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) )as long as their needs are fulfill. so everything is possible. Foreign banks accounts and properties might be the choice ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) .
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May 28, 2020, 01:38:13 PM |
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^^^ Fiat currency do leave behind tail, but then whether the authorities will be able to go after the tail or not depends on the jurisdiction where the match fixing takes place. The GCC nations, with UAE in particular are known to be hotspots for cricket gambling. Fiat transactions done through the GCC banks, or even in hard cash (using the United Arab Emirates Dirham) is outside the purview of the authorities in India and Pakistan.
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June 27, 2020, 12:19:01 PM |
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New update on PSL fellas... PCB planning to host remaining games of PSL (3-4 games i think?). Not sure how fans are going to take this news considering next edition of PSL is already schedule around February. PCB plans to host remainder of PSL by year-end
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June 27, 2020, 05:04:41 PM |
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^ It's 3 games, 2 semis and a final. I completely forgot about the PSL and its finals until you posted this update. It's been too long, now that Pak is going to tour the Netherlands and other events like the WorldCup are going to take place by the year-end, I think the interest among the fans will automatically shift towards other tournaments.
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June 27, 2020, 05:47:47 PM |
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I guess it will not be a good idea to start PSL again provided that there are numerous cases of virus positive in Pakistan Cricket team which lies a big threat for the participants. May be this year, governing body can come with different methods to end such s tournament.
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June 27, 2020, 10:42:08 PM |
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I guess it will not be a good idea to start PSL again provided that there are numerous cases of virus positive in Pakistan Cricket team which lies a big threat for the participants. May be this year, governing body can come with different methods to end such s tournament.
Right now PCB is doing this all just like a joke so I am not feeling this can happen now they need to focus on next season and forget about this all because this is not going to happen and if they want then its still not easy for them as situation is not good and they have not good resources like England and Australia to do this all.
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June 28, 2020, 07:16:27 AM |
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I guess it will not be a good idea to start PSL again provided that there are numerous cases of virus positive in Pakistan Cricket team which lies a big threat for the participants. May be this year, governing body can come with different methods to end such s tournament.
Right now PCB is doing this all just like a joke so I am not feeling this can happen now they need to focus on next season and forget about this all because this is not going to happen and if they want then its still not easy for them as situation is not good and they have not good resources like England and Australia to do this all. Don't know about this PSL but there was some pressure on the PCB to cancel the 2021 PSL to conduct the Asia cup at that time. PCB rejects BCCI's suggestion to postpone PSL 6 for Asia Cup 2020. They made the right decision and refused what BCCI had offered them. An official from the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) had recently suggested that the PCB postpones it's sixth edition of the PSL in order to cater the Asia Cup as the current year's schedule clashes with the Indian Premier League (IPL) 2020.
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June 28, 2020, 09:02:41 AM |
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I guess it will not be a good idea to start PSL again provided that there are numerous cases of virus positive in Pakistan Cricket team which lies a big threat for the participants. May be this year, governing body can come with different methods to end such s tournament.
Right now PCB is doing this all just like a joke so I am not feeling this can happen now they need to focus on next season and forget about this all because this is not going to happen and if they want then its still not easy for them as situation is not good and they have not good resources like England and Australia to do this all. Don't know about this PSL but there was some pressure on the PCB to cancel the 2021 PSL to conduct the Asia cup at that time. PCB rejects BCCI's suggestion to postpone PSL 6 for Asia Cup 2020. They made the right decision and refused what BCCI had offered them. An official from the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) had recently suggested that the PCB postpones it's sixth edition of the PSL in order to cater the Asia Cup as the current year's schedule clashes with the Indian Premier League (IPL) 2020.
This is really big blunder by BCCI if they send any suggestion like this because now PCB will never do this on any cost PSL is gateway for PCB and Pakistan for good investment and reputation If this is really from them then I am feeling they are not happy with the first addition of PSL in Pakistan and feeling jealousy even IPL is much bigger and good event.
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June 28, 2020, 09:20:02 AM |
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I guess it will not be a good idea to start PSL again provided that there are numerous cases of virus positive in Pakistan Cricket team which lies a big threat for the participants. May be this year, governing body can come with different methods to end such s tournament.
Right now PCB is doing this all just like a joke so I am not feeling this can happen now they need to focus on next season and forget about this all because this is not going to happen and if they want then its still not easy for them as situation is not good and they have not good resources like England and Australia to do this all. Don't know about this PSL but there was some pressure on the PCB to cancel the 2021 PSL to conduct the Asia cup at that time. PCB rejects BCCI's suggestion to postpone PSL 6 for Asia Cup 2020. They made the right decision and refused what BCCI had offered them. An official from the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) had recently suggested that the PCB postpones it's sixth edition of the PSL in order to cater the Asia Cup as the current year's schedule clashes with the Indian Premier League (IPL) 2020.
This is really big blunder by BCCI if they send any suggestion like this because now PCB will never do this on any cost PSL is gateway for PCB and Pakistan for good investment and reputation If this is really from them then I am feeling they are not happy with the first addition of PSL in Pakistan and feeling jealousy even IPL is much bigger and good event. Yeah you are right BCCI is getting jealous of PSL.. That is one the most hilarious comment I have ever read. PSL is still in its initial stages and the revenue it generates is very less to what BCCI earns only from IPL. Why will BCCI become jealous of a tournament that does not even have A team international players?
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June 28, 2020, 09:39:19 AM |
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I guess it will not be a good idea to start PSL again provided that there are numerous cases of virus positive in Pakistan Cricket team which lies a big threat for the participants. May be this year, governing body can come with different methods to end such s tournament.
Right now PCB is doing this all just like a joke so I am not feeling this can happen now they need to focus on next season and forget about this all because this is not going to happen and if they want then its still not easy for them as situation is not good and they have not good resources like England and Australia to do this all. Don't know about this PSL but there was some pressure on the PCB to cancel the 2021 PSL to conduct the Asia cup at that time. PCB rejects BCCI's suggestion to postpone PSL 6 for Asia Cup 2020. They made the right decision and refused what BCCI had offered them. An official from the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) had recently suggested that the PCB postpones it's sixth edition of the PSL in order to cater the Asia Cup as the current year's schedule clashes with the Indian Premier League (IPL) 2020.
This is really big blunder by BCCI if they send any suggestion like this because now PCB will never do this on any cost PSL is gateway for PCB and Pakistan for good investment and reputation If this is really from them then I am feeling they are not happy with the first addition of PSL in Pakistan and feeling jealousy even IPL is much bigger and good event. Yeah you are right BCCI is getting jealous of PSL.. That is one the most hilarious comment I have ever read. PSL is still in its initial stages and the revenue it generates is very less to what BCCI earns only from IPL. Why will BCCI become jealous of a tournament that does not even have A team international players? Pakistan will never agree on any cost for not only that this will dent the PSL tournament but also the political condition does not allow to obey any order from Indian board. Also note that the ASIA CUP is conflicting with IPL so they want PSL to be cancelled and IPL does not get disturbed.
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