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[Coin_trader]

Introduction to Blackjack

Blackjack is a fast pace casino game. It is part of table and card games offered in every casino around the world and it is the second most popular card gambling game, after poker.
The enormous popularity of blackjack is obvious once you understand that blackjack is one of the few gambling games that are not solely reliant on luck. This means that skilled players that master basic blackjack strategy can gain an advantage over the casino.

Game Objective

Blackjack is played against the casino so the main objective is to have a total hand value that exceeds the total hand value of the dealer without going over a total point value of 21.
A traditional 52 cards deck is used (or several decks) and each card has a point value attached to it. Aces count as 1 or 11, Face cards (King, Queen and Jack) count as 10 and all other cards keep the value that is printed on them.

How to Play

The dealer deals each player two cards facing up. The dealer also gets two cards but only one is facing up and the other is facing down (known as the hole card). Players are allowed to draw additional cards to the total hand value of 21.Once a player drew a card that takes his total hand value above 21 they bust out of the game. Both the dealer or player can win the hand with low valued hands in situations when one or the other busted out of the game.

Blackjack Strategy

Unlike most casino games where the only factor that determines a win or a loss is luck, blackjack is a game where skill plays a big part. Since most casino games are based on independent trials, the outcome of a round of play has no bearing on the next round of play.

In blackjack the situation is reversed and previous rounds have a great effect on subsequent rounds. This is because many hands of blackjack are played from the moment a single deck or several decks of cards are shuffled and put into play and until the point of the reshuffle.

The cards that were used in each hand of blackjack are discarded after the hand and the next hand is played only with the cards that remain in the shoe. This means that each round of blackjack offers a different probability of reaching different blackjack hands and depends on which cards are still in play.

Skilled players with good memory or even better; the ability to count cards, can take great advantage of this situation to the extent that they eliminate the house edge completely and the game becomes favorable to the player and not to the casino.

Online Blackjack

Many players enjoy playing their favorite blackjack games at online casinos. Most online casinos offer the game of blackjack as a software-based game that is governed by a Random Numbers Generator (RNG) or they can play live-dealer blackjack that simulates real casino play.

When playing blackjack on the casino software there is no option of counting cards as there is an automatic shuffle after every hand play, so the probability of reach different blackjack hands is the same in every round. The RNG ensures fair-play and players can still gain an advantage by applying blackjack strategy when making decisions.

In live-dealer blackjack the game is played from a real casino studio with real professional dealers and is streamed directly to your computer screen using the online casino software. Several players are able to play at the same table and watch the cards shuffled and dealt.

Live-dealer blackjack creates conditions that are identical to those in land-based casinos so players that are skilled at card counting can take advantage of these games.


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After the brief explanation about Blackjack which I hope you understand somehow . I'm inviting you guys to play online Blackjack @Fortunejack(Evolution Gaming Live Blackjack) so we can enjoy both winning and losing at the same time. It's really cool to play it with friends. I'm always playing every weekends and sometimes at night during weekdays if my schedule is not tight. This is my way to relax and relieve some pressure.I usually don't play with huge amount of money.  

I open for discussion about strategy and experience during the game including psychological effect of Blackjack during the game. I will share here my statistics on my Blackjack weekly so that
I can track my PnL.  

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[Beparanf]

I do play blackjack with family before, and I often lose as I think it  favored mostly on the dealer since he can still choose to add many cards as long as he didn't beat the decided shown card of the player. However it's really fun playing especially when you'll be able to beat the dealer. I might try it in Fortune jack later this day and will try my luck as this thread reminds me the bonding time we played before.

It's a good note to not use huge amount in any gambling games though.

[Debonaire217]

I don't know if I am the only one who has their first experience of playing Black Jack through big fish games: The Casino Island, the basic rules and game play of Blackjack is quite simple to understand that is why in just an early age, I've already know how to play this game.

Since the OP have already shared some tips, I want to add up mine:

• You need to start in a low bet amount, basically, you could earn and bet even higher when game progresses, and when you win.
• Make sure to always consider 17, as it is the crucial number that the house is also considering. If your card is below 17, the chances of asking for a new card and not getting busted is quite higher, basically, it is riskier to acquire more cards when you have above 17.
• Do not ride the tide, what that means is that, if your funds gets doubled, don't think about it to always win, but to lower down your bet as well. Basically, doubling your bets based from your winning will just be worthless if you lose once.

For gamblers, I advice that this kind of game is the one we should learn as our first gambling game, because the rules isn't hard enough to understand, and the odds of winning will not just depend on pure luck.

[swogerino]

These are good rules in general and good tips.The problem with me though I have always lost big amounts of money playing BlackJack.Of course I have lost against a computer controlled software which even when I had 20 then he computer opened up 3-4 cards to make exactly 21 BlackJack and did so several times.Practically impossible to win against the computer for me.

[Coin_trader]

I do play blackjack with family before, and I often lose as I think it  favored mostly on the dealer since he can still choose to add many cards as long as he didn't beat the decided shown card of the player.h.

Correction on this, It's true that the dealer has the advantage since player will do the first move and once you busted, You are totally out of the game no matter what the card of the dealer at the end. But on the other hand.The Dealer needs to draw a card until it reach 17 and higher so if the dealer is starting card is a total of 15 and 16, Then you have the advantage since the chance of getting 7 and above cards is very high if you do the math.

At the end, If you follow the strategy table above and never loss your focus during the game, Your chance of winning is above 50% compared to other pure luck based game like dice.

I don't know if I am the only one who has their first experience of playing Black Jack through big fish games: The Casino Island, the basic rules and game play of Blackjack is quite simple to understand that is why in just an early age, I've already know how to play this game.

Since the OP have already shared some tips, I want to add up mine:

• You need to start in a low bet amount, basically, you could earn and bet even higher when game progresses, and when you win.
• Make sure to always consider 17, as it is the crucial number that the house is also considering. If your card is below 17, the chances of asking for a new card and not getting busted is quite higher, basically, it is riskier to acquire more cards when you have above 17.
• Do not ride the tide, what that means is that, if your funds gets doubled, don't think about it to always win, but to lower down your bet as well. Basically, doubling your bets based from your winning will just be worthless if you lose once.

For gamblers, I advice that this kind of game is the one we should learn as our first gambling game, because the rules isn't hard enough to understand, and the odds of winning will not just depend on pure luck.

This is quite new to me. The rules is not typical to the normal Blackjack in terms of betting. I will look to this game (if it's still available) then I will get back to you.If possible can you provide link to the website here or PM me so that I will visit the right website. Thanks for sharing tho.  

These are good rules in general and good tips.The problem with me though I have always lost big amounts of money playing BlackJack.Of course I have lost against a computer controlled software which even when I had 20 then he computer opened up 3-4 cards to make exactly 21 BlackJack and did so several times.Practically impossible to win against the computer for me.

That's why I always preferred live BlackJack which you can guarantee that game is fair unlike other software that has cheat on there coding. I have friend that working in the licensing on casino in
Costa Rica that admits that some of the casino software has cheat on it.

Do you play on EOS dapps? There are so many Blackjack in the EOS dapps which they boast that the game is fair but the code is not
open source. Just avoid playing on any coded game no matter how fair they claim it. Just choose the LIVE games always. We can play sometime in the fortunejack live blackjack. Just PM me here or in telegram during weekends. I'm always playing there at 5-10$ table.

[dimonstration]

Playing Blackjack indeed requires skills and memory analysis. You can calculate your chance of winning if you know that some cards where already out of decks or already used. It is a fun game when you know the strategies and focus on the cards. It's easier to analyze it when we really put our focus as well limit our bettings too.

[bering]

The most excited from this game when we hit blackjack cards during game and besides that for me one of the most difficult to take decissions during playing is when our cards hit 18 or 19 and very confused because if we hit again the cards then it's more likely to get busted because reach more than 21 and sometimes if we decide to hold at those number then the dealers will win with 20

[tokeweed]

Counting cards is the only way to beat Blackjack consistently imo.  Are there people in here who got extensive card counting experience who's willing to teach?  Asking for a friend.

And about online Blackjack...  How decks of cards do online casinos usually use. I think it doesn't matter if there's a constant shuffle for card counting to be effective as long as the number of cards aren't rigged.

[Coin_trader]

And about online Blackjack...  How decks of cards do online casinos usually use. I think it doesn't matter if there's a constant shuffle for card counting to be effective as long as the number of cards aren't rigged.

They have atleast 10 decks of card on each set and It will be very hard to count unless you have a friend who can help you count it. I believe they are using same amount of cards on each set but I can't verify if that is the complete set of card A-K or just random cards to complete the set.

One thing I like online me blackjack is you can guarantee that the game is not rigged unlike blackjack software games. In that way, You can lose with peace of mind. 

I will try to count the decks and verify whether they are using complete set of cards or not. I will update this thread once I'm finish so wish me luck.

[KrisAlex18]

I have already played this game before, and I find it so enjoyable because I am not relying on luck hence to my ability and skills in this card game. It is much better if gambling will base on your strategy than hopping on your chance because you are the only one that will decide whether you win the game or not. If you are so intelligent and you have more experience in playing that kind of play, then it would be an advantage for you. The "blackjack is played on a semi-circular table covered with a felt cloth that usually seats up to a maximum of 7 players. There will be circle, or sometimes a square box, known as the betting spot, in front of each player in which the wager, using casino chips, is placed." so the character of being observant will be useful for you too because you should also observe your opponent if you are going to "hit" or to ask for more card. The strategy that I want to tell you is Don't count your card even if you know how to, some gamblers forget that thing, if they feel the happiness they forget to keep their card, they always speak out the number of their card. You should also know when to leave, in gambling, you should also limit yourself if you know that you are continuously losing the game.

[Coin_trader]

The strategy that I want to tell you is Don't count your card even if you know how to, some gamblers forget that thing, if they feel the happiness they forget to keep their card, they always speak out the number of their card. You should also know when to leave, in gambling, you should also limit yourself if you know that you are continuously losing the game.

Actually counting cards is now just a myth since most of the casino including online and land-based are using multiple decks in able to counter that method. Even though you are genius in math. It will take an hour or so for the cards on deck deplete and you can't guarantee that they are using a complete set of cards per deck.

I agree with that gambler should know when to leave because this is the only reason why 99.99% of gamblers loss in gambling. The probability of human error always increase whenever the duration of the game becomes longer.

[bittraffic]

I have been playing in EOS dapps for awhile, blackjack isn't played much but its almost the same concept with baccarat that we use to play when were kids.

The strategy that I want to tell you is Don't count your card even if you know how to, some gamblers forget that thing, if they feel the happiness they forget to keep their card, they always speak out the number of their card. You should also know when to leave, in gambling, you should also limit yourself if you know that you are continuously losing the game.

Actually counting cards is now just a myth since most of the casino including online and land-based are using multiple decks in able to counter that method. Even though you are genius in math. It will take an hour or so for the cards on deck deplete and you can't guarantee that they are using a complete set of cards per deck.

I agree with that gambler should know when to leave because this is the only reason why 99.99% of gamblers loss in gambling. The probability of human error always increase whenever the duration of the game becomes longer.

This is why its hard to evaluate whether you hit or not when you have a good card already. ITs always better to see that the house only has 52 cards on hand.

Will you still hit if you have 15?

[Coin_trader]

I have been playing in EOS dapps for awhile, blackjack isn't played much but its almost the same concept with baccarat that we use to play when were kids.

The strategy that I want to tell you is Don't count your card even if you know how to, some gamblers forget that thing, if they feel the happiness they forget to keep their card, they always speak out the number of their card. You should also know when to leave, in gambling, you should also limit yourself if you know that you are continuously losing the game.

Actually counting cards is now just a myth since most of the casino including online and land-based are using multiple decks in able to counter that method. Even though you are genius in math. It will take an hour or so for the cards on deck deplete and you can't guarantee that they are using a complete set of cards per deck.

I agree with that gambler should know when to leave because this is the only reason why 99.99% of gamblers loss in gambling. The probability of human error always increase whenever the duration of the game becomes longer.

This is why its hard to evaluate whether you hit or not when you have a good card already. ITs always better to see that the house only has 52 cards on hand.

Will you still hit if you have 15?

It depends on the house card reveal that time. If it's 9, 10 &  Ace and the deck is still many (atleast half) . Then I do a risky hit especially if there only few low number already out that time. I do this for entertainment purposes since the chance of winning on that scenario was slim, Then its easy to do a risky decision. That's the fun in blackjack.

Anyway there is a cool online app of blackjack in playstore to practice skills. You should check it here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.banananadco.blackjack

[bittraffic]

I'm in bethash.io though. This casino doesn't use the Random Numbers Generator (RNG) but the tx IDs to generate results making it fairer. Its a decentralized crypto casino,  I'm sure you have heard of it as they do have a thread here.

[ralle14]

I used to play live blackjack on fortunejack the experience was great but most of the time you'll have to wait or bet behind someone because their tables fill in quickly and they only have one or two tables for low limits. I tried software blackjack a few times and it felt less entertaining since there's no interaction each round only lasts a few seconds but the good part with software blackjack is the low limits reaching to 1 satoshi.

[Coin_trader]

I'm in bethash.io though. This casino doesn't use the Random Numbers Generator (RNG) but the tx IDs to generate results making it fairer. Its a decentralized crypto casino,  I'm sure you have heard of it as they do have a thread here.

I'm not familiar to bethash.io but I will take look on it once I'm in mood to gamble. I loss my interest to gamble since this pandemic. Thinking that I'm gambling while other people are fighting against COVID19 is making me shame.

Also I'm only playing a live Blackjack and I don't have trust to a program game tho. It's more fun to interact with other player.

I used to play live blackjack on fortunejack the experience was great but most of the time you'll have to wait or bet behind someone because their tables fill in quickly and they only have one or two tables for low limits. I tried software blackjack a few times and it felt less entertaining since there's no interaction each round only lasts a few seconds but the good part with software blackjack is the low limits reaching to 1 satoshi.

Cool, You are right that it's hard to sit on 0.5$ to 1$ since lot of player are waiting. The trick there is to watch carefully each player and take note there PnL(profit loss).
Then keep an eye to those player who has the most losing streak which surely will leave his seat any moment after the game.

I always seat at 5 to 10$ table since it's easier and less hassle to take a seat. But it's more fun to play in blackjack party (0.5 to 1$) because the group chat there is very alive compared to other table. Most importantly, the dealer there is very alive and making jokes unlike other seats that the dealer are very serious and just like playing to a regular casino. 

[bittraffic]

I thought you do play online since you brought up that Random Numbers Generator for provably fair casinos.  Provably fair online exist in bitcoin casinos but certainly, there are more ways to make it fairer like the tx IDs that may e for someone untrusting to online casinos will start trusting. I even prefer sports betting only but now the sports events are postponed everywhere, I end up playing blackjack and dice.

Cool, You are right that it's hard to sit on 0.5$ to 1$ since lot of player are waiting. The trick there is to watch carefully each player and take note there PnL(profit loss).
Then keep an eye to those player who has the most losing streak which surely will leave his seat any moment after the game.

I always seat at 5 to 10$ table since it's easier and less hassle to take a seat. But it's more fun to play in blackjack party (0.5 to 1$) because the group chat there is very alive compared to other table. Most importantly, the dealer there is very alive and making jokes unlike other seats that the dealer are very serious and just like playing to a regular casino. 

If the person experience a straight losing streak on that seat, why should you replace him on that seat when you could also experience the same loss?

[Coin_trader]

I thought you do play online since you brought up that Random Numbers Generator for provably fair casinos.  Provably fair online exist in bitcoin casinos but certainly, there are more ways to make it fairer like the tx IDs that may e for someone untrusting to online casinos will start trusting. I even prefer sports betting only but now the sports events are postponed everywhere, I end up playing blackjack and dice.

Ahhh. My post is just a general overview for blackjack game. Sorry for confusing. But I play some of it before and suffer a tremendous loss since its fast game. That's why I hate playing it now since I can't guarantee if the software is really fair.  Sounds like butthurt tho.

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If the person experience a straight losing streak on that seat, why should you replace him on that seat when you could also experience the same loss?

For me. I don't believe in bad luck in blackjack since it's not a pure luck game. We have different skills and there's also no guarantee that I will suffer same loss streak to the previous owner of the seat. It's 50/50 after all so it's worth trying. Besides that. It's so hard to timing an empty seat there if everyone is winning.  

[Darker45]

For me. I don't believe in bad luck in blackjack since it's not a pure luck game. We have different skills and there's also no guarantee that I will suffer same loss streak to the previous owner of the seat. It's 50/50 after all so it's worth trying. Besides that. It's so hard to timing an empty seat there if everyone is winning.  

Just sharing this as you seem to be a Blackjack fan. This is being held on Sportsbet. This is happening daily until May 17. The rule is simply to win 8 times in a row. Of course, there are a few more terms. You need to go over them as well.




Anyway, I believe no amount of strategy will defeat luck in Blackjack unless you have card-counting skills. Without that, basic strategies may help a little but won't really make you win if you have bad cards.

[vennali]

For me. I don't believe in bad luck in blackjack since it's not a pure luck game. We have different skills and there's also no guarantee that I will suffer same loss streak to the previous owner of the seat. It's 50/50 after all so it's worth trying. Besides that. It's so hard to timing an empty seat there if everyone is winning.  

Just sharing this as you seem to be a Blackjack fan. This is being held on Sportsbet. This is happening daily until May 17. The rule is simply to win 8 times in a row. Of course, there are a few more terms. You need to go over them as well.




Anyway, I believe no amount of strategy will defeat luck in Blackjack unless you have card-counting skills. Without that, basic strategies may help a little but won't really make you win if you have bad cards.

Blackjack is just luck and for entertainment at this point. Cant Objectively look at it to make money out of it. Blackjack and slots are devised to bring revenues to the casino as the odds are always in their favor. So, even if you are the "most skilled blackjack player in the history of mankind" Dont think you can manage 8 wins in a row with jsut skill. It will have to be a ton of luck in your favor. I barely see 5 win streaks, so..yeah 8 is gonna be really hard.