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April 22, 2020, 11:35:24 AM
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So did you see professional gamblers specialised on luck based games ?  They are most on sports/Players versus Players games .. games that requires skills that can be managed to get profit to your side.
also that things requires hard work to get of learning and aquierring these skills. That is why common non really implicated player heads to simples luck based games with hope to made profit from.
Even though people who have expertise in gambling I am not sure they will really win in the end, for example now winning is not certain tomorrow they can indeed be so on.  Gambling is like a spinning wheel, in which there are winners and losers always take turns.
And that's why I say gambling depends on luck.

yeah, it depends on the luck, and only sure winner is the bookkeeper, or gambling site, all others are in the wheel, with some wins and loses, usually more loses, but i take gambling just for fun, and small lose out of fun is ok with me, if you gamble with more that you can handle to lose, it is highly risky and not advised

Some gamblers do win but only few times and after they win they lose it again which means all gamblers lose money in the long run.I agree only the casinos which have a fixed house edge win in the long run.The casino is created with the sole intention to make money to the owners in the long term.But yes some gamblers do actually win and lately I have won some money in slot machines which I am sure I will lose them soon.

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April 22, 2020, 12:00:22 PM
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So just I heard stories of some peoples that do really good careers on sports betting, I mean in that in a full time engagement ,just like a job
One of them has abandoned his profession of doctor to go on a well road on horse's betting.
I mean that a really implicated players!  But again it's  not kids job
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April 22, 2020, 03:44:49 PM
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So just I heard stories of some peoples that do really good careers on sports betting, I mean in that in a full time engagement ,just like a job
One of them has abandoned his profession of doctor to go on a well road on horse's betting.
I mean that a really implicated players!  But again it's  not kids job

You should better to say no kids + No emotional people.
A real gambler with a real strategy, yes. he will win. for example, if you google matringle betting strategy you will understand this too easy to win and earn some money out of these websites.

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April 22, 2020, 04:01:50 PM
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So just I heard stories of some peoples that do really good careers on sports betting, I mean in that in a full time engagement ,just like a job
One of them has abandoned his profession of doctor to go on a well road on horse's betting.
I mean that a really implicated players!  But again it's  not kids job

You should better to say no kids + No emotional people.
A real gambler with a real strategy, yes. he will win. for example, if you google matringle betting strategy you will understand this too easy to win and earn some money out of these websites.
Indeed, betting on horse betting will yield results faster than soccer and other sports, but when he chooses to leave his full time job, and makes gambling a full time job then I don't think that's a good decision for the long term. Indeed, some gamblers have a better luck factor and actually win over a number of periods but believe me, that victory will not guarantee that their lives will be good for the long term only from gambling, even though you say this is not the work of children, but basically you cannot depend your life on gambling because gambling is not a job.

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April 23, 2020, 12:14:52 AM
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So just I heard stories of some peoples that do really good careers on sports betting, I mean in that in a full time engagement ,just like a job
One of them has abandoned his profession of doctor to go on a well road on horse's betting.
I mean that a really implicated players!  But again it's  not kids job
We can't really blame the person if that is what he wanted. Maybe his passion is on betting already rather than being a doctor.

We're somewhat the same because I also stopped being an employee in our place just to stay home and work here but anyways, gambling as a job isn't prohibited but it is very risky for me. If he see that he always win on horse betting then good for him and I also believe that he sometimes experience losses too.

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April 23, 2020, 10:58:04 PM
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So just I heard stories of some peoples that do really good careers on sports betting, I mean in that in a full time engagement ,just like a job
One of them has abandoned his profession of doctor to go on a well road on horse's betting.
I mean that a really implicated players!  But again it's  not kids job

You should better to say no kids + No emotional people.
A real gambler with a real strategy, yes. he will win. for example, if you google matringle betting strategy you will understand this too easy to win and earn some money out of these websites.
Yeah this is true gaming is not for kids or for emotional people because both of them will make wrong decisions in gambling so better keep those people away. a gambler can win when he will have good control over his money and will be able to know when to stop gambling thats why just be calm and try to make good decision and behave maturely being a gambler.
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April 23, 2020, 11:05:53 PM
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We all read threads where people say that it is impossible to win against the house because the edge that is always against a gambler.

But often when I am playing dice and I see chat and view stats of some gamblers there are actually some profiles that show profits while some show loss so my question is, do people actually make profits from dice or the stats are misleading or something?

And I am talking about regular gamblers who I mean are active in chat almost daily so it's not like they made profit once and stopped gambling, they are active and gamble almost every day so how some guys are managing profits while others are failing?

Man, every online (i don't know about offline casinos) casino or gambling site always have such "lucky guys". Consider them as Glowworms which trying to attract you to this gambling.

I read a good article about this, from a man who played online poker for too long, but this is two problems:
1. This article was in russian
2. I don't remember where it was

So just ignore such "professional gamblers" because if you see them, then it means that spot of "professional gambler" is engaged in this specific casino, so you have no chance  Smiley


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April 24, 2020, 08:26:20 AM
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We all read threads where people say that it is impossible to win against the house because the edge that is always against a gambler.

But often when I am playing dice and I see chat and view stats of some gamblers there are actually some profiles that show profits while some show loss so my question is, do people actually make profits from dice or the stats are misleading or something?

And I am talking about regular gamblers who I mean are active in chat almost daily so it's not like they made profit once and stopped gambling, they are active and gamble almost every day so how some guys are managing profits while others are failing?

Man, every online (i don't know about offline casinos) casino or gambling site always have such "lucky guys". Consider them as Glowworms which trying to attract you to this gambling.

I read a good article about this, from a man who played online poker for too long, but this is two problems:
1. This article was in russian
2. I don't remember where it was

So just ignore such "professional gamblers" because if you see them, then it means that spot of "professional gambler" is engaged in this specific casino, so you have no chance  Smiley



Because of the coronavirus outbreak, there are a lot of people cannot make any play on the gambling casinos because this is one of the most places gathered by the people just to have fun and enjoy the ambiance, fun, excitement, risk, and doubt for every player. Into the world of gambling there are only three people, first is the person who is full of luck, confidence and skilled enough to win all of their games those are the people who already gained a lot of experience on their games they are the one sometimes who conquer the game and we cannot deny by that skills they already gained popularity and hierarchy into the world of gambling, next is the people who always lose on their gambling even you are skilled enough sometimes it is lack because all the time we can face a person who is above on us, next is the person who loves to gamble, risk all thing not just to earn money instead just to look for fun. We cannot tell in every game that a specific person will always win their games sometimes it depends on the luck and skills with that kind of combination you will never experience loose, or not totally lose but still, you have a profit for your games. While you does make into the casino why not in the online gambling it is the same but there is no too much pressure from other players and the watchers or the observers.

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April 24, 2020, 09:11:10 AM
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Gamblers are actually win depends on how they luck on that they or on how they  use the startegy but not all the time it is works.
Like in dice game for example once they lose in this bet for the second bet they gonna double their bet so if they gonna win they gonna get profit in dice games I earn more money to this and I really like to play and Im the gambler also who gonna win in this games.
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April 24, 2020, 09:14:32 AM
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So just I heard stories of some peoples that do really good careers on sports betting, I mean in that in a full time engagement ,just like a job
One of them has abandoned his profession of doctor to go on a well road on horse's betting.
I mean that a really implicated players!  But again it's  not kids job

You should better to say no kids + No emotional people.
A real gambler with a real strategy, yes. he will win. for example, if you google matringle betting strategy you will understand this too easy to win and earn some money out of these websites.

This still depends.

Despite the strategies that people did, the house still has the edge and these gamblers usually always lose. Martingale might look a good strategy but actually it is not. You will never know the losing streak you have and before you know it, the money you are betting will quickly be burned by this strategy. That is the downside of this strategy, it will quickly burn out your balance. There is no such thing as perfect strategy since if a martingale is, people would take down houses and would obviously shut down casinos or gambling sites.
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April 24, 2020, 11:47:05 AM
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Gamblers are actually win depends on how they luck on that they or on how they  use the startegy but not all the time it is works.
Like in dice game for example once they lose in this bet for the second bet they gonna double their bet so if they gonna win they gonna get profit in dice games I earn more money to this and I really like to play and Im the gambler also who gonna win in this games.
Doubling bet when lost in the early game are kinds of strategies that are unique from player to player and does not work for everyone and in every game because, there a different kinds of gamblers and different mechanics in every game. Picking the right strategy for every game would be the best way of getting a higher chance for a win.

Many gamblers especially beginners loses because of bad mentalities like when someone is winning in a certain game, they would most likely play in their too and making higher bets and already yearning for a higher profit. Gamblers should always first observe concerning different strategies other expert in gambling does and only bet low especially when they do not still have enough experience in any game.
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April 24, 2020, 12:35:56 PM
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Even the dice games is easy to play that is one of the risky games in crypto gambling because once you bet there is two possible to get you lose your bet or you earned profit. They have many people who get a lot of profit in the dice games maube they use their strategy to get that .
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April 24, 2020, 05:50:09 PM
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Because of the coronavirus outbreak, there are a lot of people cannot make any play on the gambling casinos because this is one of the most places gathered by the people just to have fun and enjoy the ambiance, fun, excitement, risk, and doubt for every player. Into the world of gambling there are only three people, first is the person who is full of luck, confidence and skilled enough to win all of their games those are the people who already gained a lot of experience on their games they are the one sometimes who conquer the game and we cannot deny by that skills they already gained popularity and hierarchy into the world of gambling, next is the people who always lose on their gambling even you are skilled enough sometimes it is lack because all the time we can face a person who is above on us, next is the person who loves to gamble, risk all thing not just to earn money instead just to look for fun. We cannot tell in every game that a specific person will always win their games sometimes it depends on the luck and skills with that kind of combination you will never experience loose, or not totally lose but still, you have a profit for your games. While you does make into the casino why not in the online gambling it is the same but there is no too much pressure from other players and the watchers or the observers.

Interesting thoughts. But i talked about people, to whom casino help to win. I mean they get AA or KK in their hands much more often than average (1 time on 110 games in Holdem), or better cards on flop or something like that. I think you understand my way of thoughts  Wink

Of course, casinos with license will not do such things and create such "Glowworms" to attract fools, but there so few such casinos  Sad

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April 24, 2020, 06:21:58 PM
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Even the dice games is easy to play that is one of the risky games in crypto gambling because once you bet there is two possible to get you lose your bet or you earned profit. They have many people who get a lot of profit in the dice games maube they use their strategy to get that .
Dice is one of the easiest ways for gambling sites to gain income. It only has 2 outcomes, so you can win or lose. And certainly, you can potentially win just in the easiest way in gaming, winning is always a regular occurrence in betting sites, others are just quiet because they see it every day, and they're not trying to discuss winnings with others.
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April 24, 2020, 07:40:29 PM
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Some gamblers do win but only few times and after they win they lose it again which means all gamblers lose money in the long run.I agree only the casinos which have a fixed house edge win in the long run.The casino is created with the sole intention to make money to the owners in the long term.But yes some gamblers do actually win and lately I have won some money in slot machines which I am sure I will lose them soon.
This is the thing, on the short term it is possible to obtain some profits out of gambling since the house edge did not had the opportunity to tilt the results in favour of the casino, but the longer you play a game with a negative EV the higher the certainty that you will lose money over the long term, this is confusing to players since they do not really understand the odds of the games but it is the truth, so if you do not really have any way to change the EV of the games then you should expect to become a loser over the long term.
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April 25, 2020, 10:45:53 PM
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So just I heard stories of some peoples that do really good careers on sports betting, I mean in that in a full time engagement ,just like a job
One of them has abandoned his profession of doctor to go on a well road on horse's betting.
I mean that a really implicated players!  But again it's  not kids job

I would like to know how real these stories are. As we know forex brokers, bookmakers and other casinos love to advertise those who were able to win something. But sometimes they just come up with these success stories and people play the role of such "lucky ones" for money.

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I do not agree with OP. In my opinion, no one could win consistently yes even with skill based gambling. Because, for consistent winning you must have high level of discipline which may not be possible with an entertainment because there are plenty of chances for you to slip down somewhere when you are too excited about your entertainments.
Even if you have this, chances of consistent winning is impossible.

There is no chance that a gambler with a high level of discipline will consecutive times especially in games like this where it is pure luck. I remember the online game that I'm playing right now. It is purely RNG (items can be get thru pure luck) and even you used many bucks to buy some stuff, there is no 100% chance that you can get the item. It is the same with gambling. Even you put a million bucks there, the chances that you will win isn't 100% because it is still 50/50. Either you lose or fail.

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April 26, 2020, 02:29:47 AM
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I do not agree with OP. In my opinion, no one could win consistently yes even with skill based gambling. Because, for consistent winning you must have high level of discipline which may not be possible with an entertainment because there are plenty of chances for you to slip down somewhere when you are too excited about your entertainments.
Even if you have this, chances of consistent winning is impossible.

There is no chance that a gambler with a high level of discipline will consecutive times especially in games like this where it is pure luck. I remember the online game that I'm playing right now. It is purely RNG (items can be get thru pure luck) and even you used many bucks to buy some stuff, there is no 100% chance that you can get the item. It is the same with gambling. Even you put a million bucks there, the chances that you will win isn't 100% because it is still 50/50. Either you lose or fail.
There's a lot of gambling that is not based on pure luck just like poker! It is skilled base gambling which you are going to win consistently if you are good in that game, I read a thread here in gambling section which he is earning through gambling and he is doing it for a living, Imagine how he do it for a living if it is just a pure luck game. As long as your game is skilled based there's a high chance that you are going to win consistently as long as you are very good at it. Just imaging those poker champions  Grin

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April 26, 2020, 09:29:46 PM
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There's a lot of gambling that is not based on pure luck just like poker! It is skilled base gambling which you are going to win consistently if you are good in that game, I read a thread here in gambling section which he is earning through gambling and he is doing it for a living, Imagine how he do it for a living if it is just a pure luck game. As long as your game is skilled based there's a high chance that you are going to win consistently as long as you are very good at it. Just imaging those poker champions  Grin

The problem with poker is that there is a very low "ceiling" of skill. It is almost impossible for an ordinary person to learn how to play chess at the level of grandmasters, but almost anyone can be taught to play poker at the top level. And at this level luck decides everything, since everyone has approximately the same skill.

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April 26, 2020, 10:29:41 PM
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So just I heard stories of some peoples that do really good careers on sports betting, I mean in that in a full time engagement ,just like a job
One of them has abandoned his profession of doctor to go on a well road on horse's betting.
I mean that a really implicated players!  But again it's  not kids job

I would like to know how real these stories are. As we know forex brokers, bookmakers and other casinos love to advertise those who were able to win something. But sometimes they just come up with these success stories and people play the role of such "lucky ones" for money.

So about that,  did you know that 80 percent of traders on the stock market lose ??!
https://www.wealthwithin.com.au/learning-centre/share-trading-tips/trading-the-stock-market

Seen from this point, that's just like gambling (which is just hazard based) !  Huh
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