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February 20, 2020, 06:03:35 AM
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I read that many states are now planning to use blockchain technology in order to switch to an electronic voting system and forget about paper ballots. My country is also actively discussing this issue. As with all innovations, there are great advantages and some disadvantages. Of course, electronic voting greatly simplifies the voting process and is less costly. Blockchain technology creates additional conveniences and reliable guarantees for election participants in the transparency of this process. However, any technology cannot be absolutely immune from various abuses. Paper ballots make it possible to recount votes if there are reasonable doubts about the objectivity of the election process. With the electronic version of voting, probably only a re-vote is possible. Well, technological progress is irreversible, let's see how it will look in practice.
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February 20, 2020, 01:26:02 PM
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Good ideas when blockchain technology adpted in election system, right now many countries always use bad system when election time, we do not know who is the winner because system look old and not allowing with digital technology era.
Using blockchain in election doesn't mean that it will literally remove all election fraud. But adopting this technology can definitely improve the system of election. Less mistakes and failures from the system they're currently using. In my country, during elections we often experience machine failure it's because of the lack of development. There will always be manipulation when it comes to election because of those greedy people but I believe that it will lessen these kind of things.
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February 20, 2020, 01:31:57 PM
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I believe that the similar functionality offered by the blockchain technology is necessary first of all to countries in which election fraud occurs.
However, there is another side - states that falsify elections are not profitable to hold fair elections using blockchain technology.
At the same time, a democratic and private state that does not falsify such a system does not need so much.
The authorities of the countries of the third world will remain at a low level of development until the moment the current authorities are replaced.

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Good ideas when blockchain technology adpted in election system, right now many countries always use bad system when election time, we do not know who is the winner because system look old and not allowing with digital technology era.
Using blockchain in election doesn't mean that it will literally remove all election fraud. But adopting this technology can definitely improve the system of election. Less mistakes and failures from the system they're currently using. In my country, during elections we often experience machine failure it's because of the lack of development. There will always be manipulation when it comes to election because of those greedy people but I believe that it will lessen these kind of things.
Blockchain election system can be quite profitable for us - people by clarifying the election process.
But I've seen some people making hype about everything with "blockchain" label on it because it is about adopting technologies.
I personally don't think that blockchain elections will make bitcoin any bit stronger
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February 20, 2020, 02:44:09 PM
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Electronic voting is a real world application utilized in elections for decades now. Its not a theoretical vaporware pipedream scenario, in the way that many seem to mistakenly believe current day voting systems are still exclusively paper trail based. Its a common and ubiquitous aspect of elections and politics throughout the world. Blockchain based systems can carry advantages in insuring the integrity of data, if they are implemented correctly. And if they are complimented by solid end user authentication systems such as voters being required to provide ID to vote.

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India itself may be too polarized a setting to implement a secure electronic based voting system.

There are too many conflicting political interests for something as important as a national voting system to be developed independently without some bias being built into it. I think for something like this to work,   it would need to be developed and implemented independently by someone
who can objectively look at things and ensure the design fits the theory of how such a thing should be built.



Shouldn't be left for "someone" to develop. It should be developed transparently. Stuff like election (and other public matter)  too delicate to be left in the hands of one person or few people to manage in non transparent manner. I don't see why it can't be developed transparently. I am not sure I wouldnt trust any election material that is developed in the dark.
   
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February 21, 2020, 03:43:19 AM
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If electronic voting is bad, what is better? Paper ballots?
Using blockchain in election isn't very new idea.
India’s citizens will soon be able to cast votes from outside their city of registration thanks to a blockchain-based system: https://cointelegraph.com/news/indias-citizens-will-vote-with-blockchain-election-commissioner-says
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February 21, 2020, 09:39:13 AM
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If electronic voting is bad, what is better? Paper ballots?
both arent bad actually   . if everyone is honest people wont switch to newer system but no , thats why they upgrade to have a better security  .

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Using blockchain in election isn't very new idea.
yes   . i already heard of it before many times before this one but the question is thier local implement it already  ? im waiting for someone that have a guts to try one out .

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India’s citizens will soon be able to cast votes from outside their city of registration thanks to a blockchain-based system: https://cointelegraph.com/news/indias-citizens-will-vote-with-blockchain-election-commissioner-says
anyone can cast a vote online even without blockchain but by using blockchain , it can make the voting more secure and free from frauds  .

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February 21, 2020, 09:47:45 AM
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Good ideas when blockchain technology adpted in election system, right now many countries always use bad system when election time, we do not know who is the winner because system look old and not allowing with digital technology era.
Using blockchain in election doesn't mean that it will literally remove all election fraud. But adopting this technology can definitely improve the system of election. Less mistakes and failures from the system they're currently using. In my country, during elections we often experience machine failure it's because of the lack of development. There will always be manipulation when it comes to election because of those greedy people but I believe that it will lessen these kind of things.
Blockchain election system can be quite profitable for us - people by clarifying the election process.
But I've seen some people making hype about everything with "blockchain" label on it because it is about adopting technologies.
I personally don't think that blockchain elections will make bitcoin any bit stronger
Yeah it may not make bitcoin any stronger but the fact that the countries all around the world will adapt to blockchain will make a big impact to the cryptocurrency world, having blockchain used in different systems not only in voting will somehow make bitcoin and cryptocurrency have some weight in the interest of people because blockchain was used in crypto and they can ignore about that. Blockchain make systems more fair and convenient.



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February 22, 2020, 08:22:00 AM
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The truth is that the world is really not ready to be making use of Blockchain for voting. Do you even know voting with Blockchain works? A few tests has been done in some countries like the US and Russia, and that shows how the process works. Voters will need to upload their government issued ID and a selfie, the technology then scans the ID and the selfie they uploaded to check whether they match.

When it’s confirmed it will be authenticated as eligible and the user given a token that they will use in voting for their favorite candidate (the candidates are assigned particular addresses). The voters use the token to vote and they remain anonymous. But according to one of my research we need advanced computer systems to be able to use Blockchain for voting.

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February 23, 2020, 10:23:57 AM
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I believe that using the blockchain in the election of the country's leadership or for holding referenda will lead humanity to a more democratic system, since no one can fake the results of the will of the people.  Well, since the possibilities of the blockchain diverge from the new views of governments or existing clans, it is unlikely that in the near future we will see the realization of such an idea of ​​using blockchain in elections.
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February 23, 2020, 11:06:26 AM
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If electronic voting is bad, what is better? Paper ballots?
Using blockchain in election isn't very new idea.
India’s citizens will soon be able to cast votes from outside their city of registration thanks to a blockchain-based system: https://cointelegraph.com/news/indias-citizens-will-vote-with-blockchain-election-commissioner-says

Even though this idea is not new, but it is not been implemented in many places of the world. If blockchain is used in election, there will be no tempering or manipulation in the results of the election. This would be a perfect system of choosing the political party fairly.
Also i assume that those countries where there is a lot of fraud in election process, they will not agree to adopt this method easily.

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February 23, 2020, 02:28:30 PM
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This is more of a "big country does it so small country follows it" type of deal and not the other way around. If some small nation does this that will not have a huge impact on the world politics, however if huge nations like USA starts doing it, that could change some stuff.

However, looking at those nations we see a lot of election fraud going on which is done by people who exactly profits from the election fraud, so someone who wins illegally won't put in a motion to make the elections more transparent, that would result with them losing. So in the end, we are looking at bad people to not do bad stuff yet again in politics and we all know how that goes on, it doesn't really do well. That is why I do not see it becoming federal at any level right now.
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February 23, 2020, 05:04:35 PM
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If electronic voting is bad, what is better? Paper ballots?
Using blockchain in election isn't very new idea.
India’s citizens will soon be able to cast votes from outside their city of registration thanks to a blockchain-based system: https://cointelegraph.com/news/indias-citizens-will-vote-with-blockchain-election-commissioner-says

Even though this idea is not new, but it is not been implemented in many places of the world. If blockchain is used in election, there will be no tempering or manipulation in the results of the election. This would be a perfect system of choosing the political party fairly.
Also i assume that those countries where there is a lot of fraud in election process, they will not agree to adopt this method easily.

indeed there was already a thread that discussed it, but I admit that with the blockchain that is used for elections, it will get many benefits, in addition to accurate and fast counting, we do not encounter fraud in vote counting. I hope this can be applied immediately, especially for a country with many inhabitants

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February 24, 2020, 01:39:57 AM
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I can see the potential of blockchain if it is to be used for election. The main feature of blockchain is its decentralization and publicity of records wherein people can see the full results of election without relying to any third parties or people who can be manipulated using the old voting system. My only concern is that, what if manipulation comes to the people who will vote? We all know that politicians or someone who wants power will always do their best no matter what it takes just to gain that power. Well we can't really do something about that, no matter how good a system is, it will still be the greedy one who will win in the end. Sad but true.
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February 24, 2020, 05:19:17 AM
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I can see the potential of blockchain if it is to be used for election. The main feature of blockchain is its decentralization and publicity of records wherein people can see the full results of election without relying to any third parties or people who can be manipulated using the old voting system. My only concern is that, what if manipulation comes to the people who will vote? We all know that politicians or someone who wants power will always do their best no matter what it takes just to gain that power. Well we can't really do something about that, no matter how good a system is, it will still be the greedy one who will win in the end. Sad but true.

Blockchain is one of the fastest transactions today and many people are using the cryptocurrency and we all know that the market price of the crypto today and many people would like to include in the world of crypto. Also, it is a good chance that bitcoin or crypto is use for the campaigns for election because there is a lot of earning with the use of it but also it benefits only to the people who are know how to use of crypto but still if we use of it this can be used to manipulate the votes because it is a big market value and it can change a lot of votes and decision. Still, we are looking for good use of blockchain for the elections.

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February 24, 2020, 07:49:10 AM
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Yeah blockchain voting isn't a very good idea. The issue is that someone can get hold of someone else's keys or companies could ask their staff to hand keys over or something else like that - which may go unreported...
No government is going to implement these blockchain technology based voting system right away with the current-state where it is today. We have super brains and super cops to fine-tune the system from its today's state to possible "production-ready" state.

It is too early to conclude like "it has flaws hence it may get misused; let's stick with what we already have". Technology will self-reevaluate to make us adopt them without complaining till then let's watch or if possible let us contribute toward building them rather than criticizing.

I completely agree that deploying it in a large scale immediately is a horrible idea, but a few breakthroughs here and there could make them plausible in the future.
Yes, this is how we do have new systems and technologies. I strongly believe the concept is more important and making it practical/implemented will happen over the time by slowly eliminating all the pitfalls.

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February 24, 2020, 09:04:16 AM
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The problem I see with a voting system like this, is if it is government controlled. So, once a government is in control of the Blockchain and the mining and also the protocol development, they can manipulate it. We have already seen governments wanting to create their own Blockchain based Crypto currencies that are stripped of all anonymity, so are we going to see a voting system going that same route?

How do you implement a voting system that are done on a Blockchain, without identifying the actual voters and still having a reliable and trustworthy system that cannot be cheated and manipulated? Yes, you can go on total vote count and whatever is done on the centralized Blockchain, but how do you tackle the voting for separate provinces or states on a single Blockchain?

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February 24, 2020, 10:02:04 AM
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Yeah blockchain voting isn't a very good idea. The issue is that someone can get hold of someone else's keys or companies could ask their staff to hand keys over or something else like that - which may go unreported...

It is not the only issue

However, personally, I think the advantages and benefits still massively outweigh possible drawbacks and hiccups. If we take your example (as an example), handing over the keys could unleash all sorts of potential problems for the management of that company (as well as their staff who agreed to give up their keys) once it becomes known

But in essence it is not particularly different from just telling or hinting how your employees should vote. So even in this "use case", or rather misuse and abuse, blockchain proves to be a step forward as it allows to catch these influencers red-handed

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February 24, 2020, 06:11:28 PM
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Yeah blockchain voting isn't a very good idea. The issue is that someone can get hold of someone else's keys or companies could ask their staff to hand keys over or something else like that - which may go unreported...
No government is going to implement these blockchain technology based voting system right away with the current-state where it is today. We have super brains and super cops to fine-tune the system from its today's state to possible "production-ready" state.

When they start learning how to airgap stuff then I'll agree with you on that one...

At the moment most "experts" are merely people that have tricked others into thinking they know better. Nothing will ever be completely safe, especially if the government controls it, and saying something will be is just making it more interesting for people to hack to vote themselves in...
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February 24, 2020, 07:33:32 PM
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Using of Blockchain in Election

You definitely need blockchain where transactions cant be linked like Monero blockchain for votings. We dont want to see that everyone knows who you or anyone else voted for.
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