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February 24, 2020, 09:19:09 PM
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I love the idea until I saw this article:

Flaws in the blockchain app some states plan to use in the 2020 election allow bad actors to alter or cancel someone’s vote or expose their private info.

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Security researchers have found key flaws in a mobile voting app that some states plan to use in the 2020 election that can allow hackers to launch both client- and server-side attacks that can easily manipulate or even delete someone’s vote, as well as prevent a reliable audit from taking place after the fact, they said.

A team of researchers at MIT released a security audit of Voatz—a blockchain app that already was used in a limited way for absentee-ballot voting in the 2018 mid-term elections—that they said bolsters the case for why internet voting is a bad idea and voting transparency is the only way to ensure legitimacy.
Hackers Can Seize Control of Ballots Cast Using the Voatz Voting App, Researchers Say

https://threatpost.com/hackers-can-seize-control-of-ballots-cast-using-the-voatz-voting-app-researchers-say/152883/

So as the research says, it could be a bad idea to let people vote using some apps. So they might intercept it before the vote can be written to the blockchain. So for now, there are more questions and cons against it. And we all know that once it is written in the blockchain it can't be change.
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February 25, 2020, 08:47:47 AM
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I do not think that governments can "control" blockchain, they can create it but blockchain is designed to be transparent and it is designed to be decentralized. Which means if elections are ever on blockchain it could be the fairest election ever with everyone being able to check whats going on and if there is anything abnormal then should be people can show it with proof. The problem is not elections anymore, it is more about social engineering now.

There are so many factually wrong stuff going around for the nominees that Trump basically got elected on full of lies, when it was about LGBT he showed the rednecks how he is against it with ads addressed to them and he showed how he supports them to LGBT ads addressed to LGBT. When it is farmers he addressed them differently when it is trade wars he addressed differently.

So, even if elections are fully fair, we now have news and ads all election engineered into winning and doing whatever politicians wants.

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February 25, 2020, 09:34:53 AM
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One usage of blockchain technology is for voting yet the majority still doesn't use blockchain technology during elections.
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"India’s citizens will soon be able to cast votes from outside their city of registration thanks to a blockchain-based system."

Every election, we encounter some citizens who don't vote because of their reasons. It's either they don't want any candidate or they can't vote because they're living far from the voting places.
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"The commissioner said that regulators are collaborating with the Indian Institute of Technology to develop a blockchain system that would allow citizens to vote remotely."

This can help those who have a problem with the distance from their house to the voting place and it's also a way to prevent multiple votings.

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https://cointelegraph.com/news/indias-citizens-will-vote-with-blockchain-election-commissioner-says


The plan of using blockchain technology in voting is to make it more convenient for others and to make it fraud-proof. During elections, we can really see a lot of things happening, especially for those candidates who really want to win so they will manipulate the result. But with blockchain, it will be hard for them to change and manipulate it. With this, we can achieve more transparency when it comes to the votes.

As a concerned citizen, I know what my country is facing, and I feel bad for our situation because those who don't deserve to be in the position are sitting prettily in their thrones. I really think that the different governments should try exploring this technology to help them because it will totally make things easier and more accurate than the usual system where they can cheat. The government shouldn't be afraid of trying it unless they want to manipulate the results.

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Blockchain can be used in various field and one of that is voting. Although voting is one of blockchain's main usage, not everyone knew nor even aware of it. That's why further practices and studies should be done so they can maximize the use of blockchain technology. Just like what I have said, with this technology, it'll be easier to collect votes and it can't be easily manipulated by someone. I only have limited knowledge about the use-cases of blockchain and I still studying it.




PS: I'm not posting this to promote the site, I just want to share the news with everyone. Thank you!

With the aid of blockchain technology, it is really possible to have election using a blockchain based system. With its design, it would be hard for dishonest candidates to manipulate the data inputted by the person. It would record the vote of one person and that vote would remain as it is resistant to modification. Once used, it would be hard to alter the data without altering the succeeding data.

However, with such power of a candidate, he/she could do tricks just as to acquire power over people. Hackers could easily attack the votes, delete it or even manipulate. Regardless of the security of blockchain and its design, when there's will there's a way. And I think this is possible for using blockchain too. What we need are not misconceptions and doubts but actions and will. Not only to improve the current state of bitcoin's acceptance but for the country's sake as well as its people.

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February 25, 2020, 10:50:33 AM
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Blockchain and elections can be a great pair, but first, they need to be tested. Well, in any case, this version of the electoral system also has its drawbacks. Someone can arrange a DDOS attack by simply scoring the network so that it cannot process votes efficiently, or even gain access to part of the votes, and thereby undermine the election process.

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February 25, 2020, 11:59:30 AM
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Blockchain and elections can be a great pair, but first, they need to be tested. Well, in any case, this version of the electoral system also has its drawbacks. Someone can arrange a DDOS attack by simply scoring the network so that it cannot process votes efficiently, or even gain access to part of the votes, and thereby undermine the election process.


This is really needed since this is the first time we use that for election and might we will face some struggles for certain attacks,manipulation or others for this new innovation. But if this will work smoothly for sure blockchain technology will get a huge attention and might bitcoins an cryptocurrency will gain fame for this.


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February 25, 2020, 12:09:46 PM
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So as the research says, it could be a bad idea to let people vote using some apps. So they might intercept it before the vote can be written to the blockchain. So for now, there are more questions and cons against it. And we all know that once it is written in the blockchain it can't be change.

These are some cons if votes would pass into a certain app on certain individual.I would rather prefer on having the same set-up of voting system which
voters would still need to go into the voting place and using up or registering up their votes into a particular machine which would register in blockchain.
Its a better option that having that individual voting yet we have seen the cons on using those apps or something related.

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February 25, 2020, 01:51:40 PM
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Blockchain and elections can be a great pair, but first, they need to be tested. Well, in any case, this version of the electoral system also has its drawbacks. Someone can arrange a DDOS attack by simply scoring the network so that it cannot process votes efficiently, or even gain access to part of the votes, and thereby undermine the election process.


This is really needed since this is the first time we use that for election and might we will face some struggles for certain attacks,manipulation or others for this new innovation. But if this will work smoothly for sure blockchain technology will get a huge attention and might bitcoins an cryptocurrency will gain fame for this.



I think we must test it and work through any issues there could appear. Offline elections are habitual, so are the manipulations of regular elections - imo we are not that critical on them as we are on blockchain's ones.
But offline elections has no potential unlike online ones.
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February 25, 2020, 05:25:05 PM
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Blockchain and elections can be a great pair, but first, they need to be tested. Well, in any case, this version of the electoral system also has its drawbacks. Someone can arrange a DDOS attack by simply scoring the network so that it cannot process votes efficiently, or even gain access to part of the votes, and thereby undermine the election process.
This is not impossible to happen since the blockchain technology is innovating as time passes by, I can say that maybe sometime if there are some projects will use this idea to their platform, it is good for everyone especially to those countries who are doing some elections to elect their presidents and any other person who is doing campaign. This can make the countings or any other things that are connected to the election. They should propose some attributes in which they can locate who is doing some flying votes which are not fair for those candidates who really fight with honesty.

Blockchain and elections can be a great pair, but first, they need to be tested. Well, in any case, this version of the electoral system also has its drawbacks. Someone can arrange a DDOS attack by simply scoring the network so that it cannot process votes efficiently, or even gain access to part of the votes, and thereby undermine the election process.
This is really needed since this is the first time we use that for election and might we will face some struggles for certain attacks,manipulation or others for this new innovation. But if this will work smoothly for sure blockchain technology will get a huge attention and might bitcoins an cryptocurrency will gain fame for this.
Indeed, it might help every country and can make the election easier, and not only that, because of the blockchain technology, the cryptocurrency might get a lot of interest to those investors and any other businessman who knew about it, how good blockchain technology is, and how better to make some investments here with cryptocurrency.

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February 25, 2020, 06:21:07 PM
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Blockchain and elections can be a great pair, but first, they need to be tested. Well, in any case, this version of the electoral system also has its drawbacks. Someone can arrange a DDOS attack by simply scoring the network so that it cannot process votes efficiently, or even gain access to part of the votes, and thereby undermine the election process
If a country is building a blockchain integrated in their election do you think that the network will be allowed to connect globally to be afraid of the DDOS attack, so we do not need to worry about that someone will game the system as everything will be registered in the blockchain and you cannot fake those registry and the biggest question will be whether a corrupted government will allow these to be integrated.
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February 25, 2020, 06:34:12 PM
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Blockchain and elections can be a great pair, but first, they need to be tested. Well, in any case, this version of the electoral system also has its drawbacks. Someone can arrange a DDOS attack by simply scoring the network so that it cannot process votes efficiently, or even gain access to part of the votes, and thereby undermine the election process.


This is really needed since this is the first time we use that for election and might we will face some struggles for certain attacks,manipulation or others for this new innovation. But if this will work smoothly for sure blockchain technology will get a huge attention and might bitcoins an cryptocurrency will gain fame for this.


If there's no intervals from any government sectors then using blockchain is fits with this system, there are no manipulation that will take place,
knowing the computing factors of this chain, it will be a big help if this plan will materialized.
If the intentions is genuine this implementations will benefits every country that will embrace this system.

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February 25, 2020, 08:07:10 PM
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As far as I know some countries are considering posibility to use blockchain technology in election process. That sounds like a good idea however it must be tested in details. When it comes to election trust and security are very important and citizens must feel confident about such system and that is not easy to achieve, we all know that fear of manipulation is always present.

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February 26, 2020, 08:06:20 PM
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Useful for voting but too much risk, it is double because theres no tracking of records of whom the voters are. It is very hard to implement, it id likely giving new Identity to each and everyone of your people. How could you do that when there are already what they called voters I.D. and such. This is on a larger scale and it should run by the companies who are already knows and has experience on elections, contractors who uses new technology like smartmatic, maybe tweak them and use blockchain, maybe for now this is a proposal, and it is will have a hard time to be approved because the people who are currently on power will disagree. I like the idea of the block link to the national budget first rather than for voting, but a good concept though.
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February 28, 2020, 06:48:59 PM
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In my own opinion, using blockchain technology for voting would be very useful and convenient for everybody because they don't need to wait in lines and go outside just to vote that all they need is a smartphone or a computer. But it should be tested to know if it will be accessible, efficient and if it can aboid fraud or cheats in voting.



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February 29, 2020, 03:55:11 AM
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A lot of big businesses and companies are already using blockchain technology and it is very effective for them to make a fast and secured transactions. So i think using blockchain technology for elections process could be efficient and convenient for every voters, but we should think of a proposal that will avoid frauds in voting elections, so that it would be better concept and proposal.
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February 29, 2020, 02:38:24 PM
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Making use of blockchain for voting is probably not going to be a good idea. Yep, I know that a lot of people have been saying that, but I don’t really think that we have reached the level where we will be able to make use of blockchain in voting. I have read the processes that are involved and how the ‘key’ thing works. For it to be secured, the ‘keys’ that are given to voters will have to be a long one and that will require a lot of computer and enough energy to power it which will probably cost a lot of money, and that’s unnecessary.

There have been a test and the keys that were given to the participants were short which means that hackers can easily take over it. I’m not really good at explaining this, so I will advise you to do some research on Google and there will be some articles to explain it better.

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February 29, 2020, 03:39:17 PM
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A lot of big businesses and companies are already using blockchain technology and it is very effective for them to make a fast and secured transactions. So i think using blockchain technology for elections process could be efficient and convenient for every voters, but we should think of a proposal that will avoid frauds in voting elections, so that it would be better concept and proposal.
Today, applying Blockchain to management is no longer a strange thing for us and many companies when it is really useful and creates certain effects, special feature transparency and limiting change, it makes this technology quite great for election. However, the idea and actualization will probably be more difficult when political issues are quite sensitive, there are dark sides to the electoral issue, and not everyone can apply this technology expertly and professionally, traditional electoral methods are probably simpler

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February 29, 2020, 03:55:10 PM
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Making use of blockchain for voting is probably not going to be a good idea. Yep, I know that a lot of people have been saying that, but I don’t really think that we have reached the level where we will be able to make use of blockchain in voting. I have read the processes that are involved and how the ‘key’ thing works. For it to be secured, the ‘keys’ that are given to voters will have to be a long one and that will require a lot of computer and enough energy to power it which will probably cost a lot of money, and that’s unnecessary.
Yup, it is true that using blockchain could lead us to more expensive election but isn't it a wise move of doing the election? I mean if we could just do it then why not? If using blockchain is the key to a fair election, and electing those people whom people did vote true then why not? I think it is better than having the wrong person in the position especially when that person is corrupt. Blockchain is transparent, cheating is easy to see, I guess blockchain would really help a lot on election.

There have been a test and the keys that were given to the participants were short which means that hackers can easily take over it. I’m not really good at explaining this, so I will advise you to do some research on Google and there will be some articles to explain it better.
What do you mean hackers? If we could build a private network during election then we can create an invulnerable block to avoid hacking incidents, aside hackers do hate corrupt government.

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February 29, 2020, 05:33:31 PM
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For it to be secured, the ‘keys’ that are given to voters will have to be a long one and that will require a lot of computer and enough energy to power it which will probably cost a lot of money, and that’s unnecessary

This explanation leaves a gaping void in your reasoning

If what you say is true indeed, how are cryptocurrencies using blockchain ever possible? They are real money (well, at least top cryptos), but if they required too much power to support them (read, money), it would absolutely defeat the purpose. Elections are typically not something which you run continuously 24/7 (unlike cryptocurrencies), so such reasoning doesn't make a lot of sense and is decidedly out of tune with existing realities

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For it to be secured, the ‘keys’ that are given to voters will have to be a long one and that will require a lot of computer and enough energy to power it which will probably cost a lot of money, and that’s unnecessary

This explanation leaves a gaping void in your reasoning

If what you say is true indeed, how are cryptocurrencies using blockchain ever possible? They are real money (well, at least top cryptos), but if they required too much power to support them (read, money), it would absolutely defeat the purpose. Elections are typically not something which you run continuously 24/7 (unlike cryptocurrencies), so such reasoning doesn't make a lot of sense and is decidedly out of tune with existing realities
Yeah it does cost too much power but election will take place for only a week or less if we just want a fair election. Well it does make sense if we have our own blockchain during elections and the data being transferred to machines go directed to the blocks and viewable then I must say that we actually need it, we just need to execute it properly.
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One usage of blockchain technology is for voting yet the majority still doesn't use blockchain technology during elections.
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"India’s citizens will soon be able to cast votes from outside their city of registration thanks to a blockchain-based system."

Every election, we encounter some citizens who don't vote because of their reasons. It's either they don't want any candidate or they can't vote because they're living far from the voting places.
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"The commissioner said that regulators are collaborating with the Indian Institute of Technology to develop a blockchain system that would allow citizens to vote remotely."

This can help those who have a problem with the distance from their house to the voting place and it's also a way to prevent multiple votings.

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https://cointelegraph.com/news/indias-citizens-will-vote-with-blockchain-election-commissioner-says


The plan of using blockchain technology in voting is to make it more convenient for others and to make it fraud-proof. During elections, we can really see a lot of things happening, especially for those candidates who really want to win so they will manipulate the result. But with blockchain, it will be hard for them to change and manipulate it. With this, we can achieve more transparency when it comes to the votes.

As a concerned citizen, I know what my country is facing, and I feel bad for our situation because those who don't deserve to be in the position are sitting prettily in their thrones. I really think that the different governments should try exploring this technology to help them because it will totally make things easier and more accurate than the usual system where they can cheat. The government shouldn't be afraid of trying it unless they want to manipulate the results.

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Blockchain can be used in various field and one of that is voting. Although voting is one of blockchain's main usage, not everyone knew nor even aware of it. That's why further practices and studies should be done so they can maximize the use of blockchain technology. Just like what I have said, with this technology, it'll be easier to collect votes and it can't be easily manipulated by someone. I only have limited knowledge about the use-cases of blockchain and I still studying it.




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This was a great idea and must be apply to every country. As we can observe, this was a common issue today. When the election comes, we can hear issues about manipulation of votes and this was hard to avoid because sometimes the people involved are the ones who are in the government. With blockchain technology we can probably avoid these problems and can result to a fair election.
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