Huawei without Google

[Jet Cash]

I don't install any social media apps, and I have disabled play services. My phone is not a play thing.

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[LTU_btc]

Never been fan of Huawei, but they were turning into serious competitor for Samsung and Apple. They were offering quite good phones for low price. But now, without Google services it looks like half-working product. Yes, Huawei are making their own AppGallery, but it reminds me story of WindowsPhone and how they failed. You simply won't find so many apps that you need. And I think it's not likely that majority of apps that you can find on Google Play will be ever uploaded there.
So, I don't any reasons to buy Huawei when I simply can buy fully working Android phone. Well, unless you're hardcore Huawei fan, but you have to be ready for lot of inconvenience while using this phone.
And none of Android phones is good in terms of privacy. If you really concerned about it, it would best to use old Nokia phone.

[Jet Cash]

I'm not bothered about privacy, but I am annoyed by useless apps being installed, and using up resources and bandwidth. I must be pretty boring because I  don't want to listen to music on the phone, or send pictures of my tonsils or other body parts to people, or use any of the other gimmicky apps that seem to try to install themselves.

[LTU_btc]

I'm not bothered about privacy, but I am annoyed by useless apps being installed, and using up resources and bandwidth. I must be pretty boring because I  don't want to listen to music on the phone, or send pictures of my tonsils or other body parts to people, or use any of the other gimmicky apps that seem to try to install themselves.

I also don't like when phone is full of pre-installed apps, especially these which aren't needed for me. Rooting your phone helps in such cases, but downside of it that you loose warranty.
I like Android One series phones because basically, it's clean Android without bloatware and just some pre-installed Google apps.

[geyayy]

I'm not bothered about privacy, but I am annoyed by useless apps being installed, and using up resources and bandwidth. I must be pretty boring because I  don't want to listen to music on the phone, or send pictures of my tonsils or other body parts to people, or use any of the other gimmicky apps that seem to try to install themselves.

I also don't like when phone is full of pre-installed apps, especially these which aren't needed for me. Rooting your phone helps in such cases, but downside of it that you loose warranty.
I like Android One series phones because basically, it's clean Android without bloatware and just some pre-installed Google apps.

Me, too, is also annoyed by the pre-installed applications from google, but as a Huawei phone user, I find it incomplete without using Google Playstore. Having it is more convenient, however other preinstalled applications takes so much space in my phone, I don't even use it. It takes so much memory and it can't be uninstalled.

[superving]

I like huawie because of its camera and storage even it doesnt have google playstore, but soon all the games on playstore will be available on thier app gallery

[Lucius]

...however other preinstalled applications takes so much space in my phone, I don't even use it. It takes so much memory and it can't be uninstalled.

Are you sure about all preinstalled apps can't be uninstalled? Some can certainly be removed without rooting your phone, you just need to follow few simple steps. For me, they are not a problem because I have 128 GB of space and 6 GB of RAM in my Huawei, which is more than enough for one smartphone.

https://www.androidguys.com/tips-tools/remove-pre-installed-apps-android/

...but soon all the games on playstore will be available on thier app gallery

Not only that, Huawei is very close to launching its Harmony OS on smartphones which will definitely be a turning point in their business. Unfortunately Huawei is facing a loss of chips and display panels for their devices, so their future production will be quite difficult. Given the influence that the USA has in the world, if Huawei wants to survive, it will have to produce all the necessary components in China. But even that may not be enough, because I believe that the attacks on this company will go so far that some countries under pressure will be forced to ban the sale of their devices.

[Jet Cash]

I've been looking at Google free Huawei phones, but the latest models don't seem to have WiFi. This surprises me if it is true.

[Lucius]

I've been looking at Google free Huawei phones, but the latest models don't seem to have WiFi. This surprises me if it is true.

Impossible, what kind of smartphone would it be without WiFi? Look at all the available models here : https://www.gsmarena.com/huawei-phones-58.php , and you will see under Comms that each phone has listed something like this -> "WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, dual-band, Wi-Fi Direct, hotspot"

[Jet Cash]

That's what I thought, but I was looking on Amazon, and they didn't mention WiFi or bluetooth.

[JeromeTash]

Me, too, is also annoyed by the pre-installed applications from google, but as a Huawei phone user, I find it incomplete without using Google Playstore.

It's because you are too used to Google playstore and nothing else. I have already familiarized myself with Huawei's App gallery on my phone as i am looking forward to getting another one of their phones and most of the popular apps are in there

There are a couple of popular third party android app stores I know about such as APKpure, and they always keep them updated. Whatever app you might fail to get in Huawei AppGallery, you can easily get it from 3rd party app stores.

[Lucius]

That's what I thought, but I was looking on Amazon, and they didn't mention WiFi or bluetooth.

I don't use Amazon, so I'm not familiar with how the products are presented there, but obviously someone thinks that such things are taken for granted - because who would buy a smartphone without WiFi or Bluetooth. However, there may be a small group of people who would be interested in such devices in order to use them as airgapped devices for cold wallets, which would mean that without WiFi, Bluetooth and SIM card such smartphones would not be able to communicate wirelessly with Internet.

[UserU]

That's what I thought, but I was looking on Amazon, and they didn't mention WiFi or bluetooth.

Do you have a link to any of those products? I'll go take a look.

[Lucius]

Do you have a link to any of those products? I'll go take a look.

Search engine + keywords Amazon+Huawei smartphones = https://www.amazon.com/Huawei-Phones/s?k=Huawei+Phones

[Jet Cash]

I'm hoping that their new OS will arrive before thery run out of chips.

It's such a large well funded company, that I suspect they will be able to find an alternative source of chips, and that will be another massive  market lost to the US.

[fourpiece]

I've been looking at Google free Huawei phones, but the latest models don't seem to have WiFi. This surprises me if it is true.

Really,? This is my first time to hear a phone that dont have wifi cause all phones today are with wifi. What model is that? Maybe its a phone from 2005.

[Jet Cash]

It looks as if it does have WiFi and bluetooth, and it's Amazon that didn't bother to mention it.

I think some devices are starting to think about remote access. I've just bought a wild life camera that doesn't have bluetooth, and the WiFi has a remote switch. The switch looks like a watch with a couple of buttons instead of a face. I suspect this is to avoid people sensing the camera as they walk past with connectivity scanning enabled.

[Lucius]

I'm hoping that their new OS will arrive before thery run out of chips.

Harmony OS will be available on some smart TVs and smartwatches this year, and it should only appear on Huawei smartphones next year. The company has already announced that it will be possible to make a free upgrade from Android to Harmony OS for most new phones that will have EMUI 11. Personally, I don’t worry that Huawei won’t find an alternative to the chips as well as all the other components.

What do you think of their latest GT2 PRO smartwatch? I really like the really high quality workmanship and materials like titanium, ceramics and sapphire glass +200 watch faces

https://consumer.huawei.com/en/wearables/watch-gt2-pro/

[Jet Cash]

I think a smartphone is about as small as I want to go. I'm most interested in setting up a mobile coms centre in my van, and I'm going to try open Suse as an alternative to Ubuntu and Mint.

[CryptocurencyKing]

^ Pretty much this. It depends on who you want to be spied by, either by China or the US.

Basically data is the current gold mine now. You want convenience, that comes at the expense of security. There's no in-between.

Data is pretty much the current gold mine and it's been exploited by authorities and those with the know how for several reasons. Google is one of the most fundamentals for every internet accessing technological device and most persons can hardly do without it. It's like the basic needs of life as we were taught in elementary school (food, water and shelter), that's the position google occupies and this have raised the vulnerability of a lot of users as most persons just use packages without knowing anything of it's development and node enter phase which could be used in spying on users. It feels unfair that these things are done but, you can't really escape it except you develope your own package. Perhaps, we've just got to live with it or use VPN to by pass them to some extent, you never can be completely out.