Opening a new gambling website 2020'

[ToxicAG]

Dear Sir or Madam
I would like to introduce to you a newly opened project , this is a bitcoin game
https://bitcoinbetgame.com/#/
I guarantee everyone that it is not a scam , the service has been created because just like all of you
we want to start our adventure with Bitcoin , and without measures this is not feasible
the game offers a high chance of winning 70%,80% and 90% and thus high reward rates 10%,20% and 30% which can be withdrawn immediately , there is no minimum payout the only minimum are costs for paying in the system Blockchain , you can withdraw even $ 1 anytime
additionally we have added now new referral system you can earn $ 100 for ten active referrals , for a hundred recommended people even $ 1000 all information is available on the game page , if someone needs more information I invite you to our channel in the Telegram program https://t.me/BitcoinBetGame2020
I will answer all your questions , if I wasn't there please leave a message I will definitely answer
you'll ask if it's legal first you have to answer the question  , in which countries Bitcoin is considered a legal means of payment ?? as far as I know is tolerated, but is not an official paying unit
that's why there is a lot of disagreement about because playing the game with bitcoin you don't officially get money or valuable items , so whether you need a license for the legality of such a site ??
I have been cheated many times I know how cheated a person feels , that's why I decided not to offer anyone something that is a scam so please do not comment on this site hastily
how to check the credibility of this game ??
it's easy, just play and withdraw your bitcoin the lowest rate is $ 14 somebody will say a lot !!
so please remember how much money you have been cheated lately , the very idea if that's true
what happens when you see that you can multiply your Bitcoin
we only need ten people to prove it to you , ten people who will take part in the same lottery
we don't force anyone to play , you can earn Bitcoin by recommending our site
we are going to constantly develop the project and we believe you will help us in this
thank you for the time which you have devoted to reading this text
I hope that my honesty will be appreciate  
greetings to all


I may have misrepresented this project , thank you for your comments I will try to present it differently
the site has been designed to order the algorithm was created by the company HONETI
https://honeti.com/
we are applying for licenses for our algorithm in the company https://itechlabs.com/
it will take a while because it is a very expensive procedure
this site is not a casino this is one game using only Bitcoin you can say this is an offline game
but there is communication between players , chat is available on the site players can exchange insights directly on the site
when it comes to support we are available to chat where it is possible to create private rooms
and on our chat channel in the telegram program https://t.me/BitcoinBetGame2020
how our service works
here we are not based on classic algorithms like in big casinos our algorithm uses a decimal system
that's why we don't need financial security
Ten people are always needed to run the game that's why your chances of winning are completely justified for example, ten people bet on lotteries 90% then out of these ten people nine wins
the tenth player's pool is divided into ten parts nine parts are transferred to nine wins and tenth is our commission
The funds are immediately transferred to the player's account and are immediately ready for withdrawal
we used three different levels
90% chance to win   + reward 10%
80% chance to win   + reward 20%
70% chance to win  + reward 30%
when it comes to the referral system we offer $ 100 for inviting ten players $ 1,000 for inviting a hundred players , all invited players must achieve active player status that is, he must play in ten lotteries no matter what we finance rewards from commissions and the rest of our funds
https://bitcoinbetgame.com/#/

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[johnjimjack]

I guarantee everyone that it is not a scam

Said every scammer ever.
You don't even explain how the game works. There is no information on the site.

[ToxicAG]

I guarantee everyone that it is not a scam

Said every scammer ever.
You don't even explain how the game works. There is no information on the site.

you don't even want to come to the site and read the terms of use , everything is described on the page
if you are cheated, you can call me a cheater
but not before, please

[LFC_Bitcoin]

I guarantee everyone that it is not a scam

Said every scammer ever.
You don't even explain how the game works. There is no information on the site.

you don't even want to come to the site and read the terms of use , everything is described on the page
if you are cheated, you can call me a cheater
but not before, please

Translated to - Let me steal your money first & then you can moan

[ToxicAG]

I guarantee everyone that it is not a scam

Said every scammer ever.
You don't even explain how the game works. There is no information on the site.

you don't even want to come to the site and read the terms of use , everything is described on the page
if you are cheated, you can call me a cheater
but not before, please

Translated to - Let me steal your money first & then you can moan

it's definitely exactly as you say sir ,  it's sad that you want to treat everyone equally

[harizen]

~snipped~

My feedback:

- The way you introduced the site is already enough reason why people should stay away from it. That's not the professional way of introducing a gambling site. Did you see a reputable gambling site owner today that shares their sentiments about their gambling experience in the past? Also, only those who have a plan of exiting someday do have a welcome note of "this is not a scam".

- Second, you question the legality and you don't honestly care for it. Did you really think people will just throw away their money on a site like that?

- Prove fairness of the lottery.

- Prove fairness of 70% 80% 90% additional winning for those who will win the respective draws.

- Prove you have decent funds

- And Gmail.com as your email domain?

[johnjimjack]

I guarantee everyone that it is not a scam

Said every scammer ever.
You don't even explain how the game works. There is no information on the site.

you don't even want to come to the site and read the terms of use , everything is described on the page
if you are cheated, you can call me a cheater
but not before, please

I did. There is no explanation for how the drawing works.

[ToxicAG]

~snipped~

My feedback:

- The way you introduced the site is already enough reason why people should stay away from it. That's not the professional way of introducing a gambling site. Did you see a reputable gambling site owner today that shares their sentiments about their gambling experience in the past? Also, only those who have a plan of exiting someday do have a welcome note of "this is not a scam".

First of all, I wasn't cheated in gambling only on all current hyip sites
do you know a professional way to introduce a gambling site without any lies or stretches
I am not yet a reputable owner, I am just fighting for my reputation
do you think that honesty with people is a defect of humanity


- Second, you question the legality and you don't honestly care for it. Did you really think people will just throw away their money on a site like that?


  please specify, why I don't care about legality , please indicate the order that a site that doesn't use normal money or valuable items, must have a gambling license 




- Prove fairness of the lottery.

  we are currently licensing our script  with    https://itechlabs.com/



- Prove fairness of 70% 80% 90% additional winning for those who will win the respective draws.

   I can't do this without active players



- Prove you have decent funds

  I'd have to show you my wallet status , I doubt anyone would do that



- And Gmail.com as your email domain?

  does it matter where the mail is received ??
 

[ToxicAG]

I guarantee everyone that it is not a scam

Said every scammer ever.
You don't even explain how the game works. There is no information on the site.

you don't even want to come to the site and read the terms of use , everything is described on the page
if you are cheated, you can call me a cheater
but not before, please

I did. There is no explanation for how the drawing works.

at the very bottom of the page  RULES

[dunfida]

I guarantee everyone that it is not a scam

Said every scammer ever.
You don't even explain how the game works. There is no information on the site.

Have you counted on how many times he do said that he isnt a scammer?   On op, in making an ANN thread you should make it at least a decent looking one, not just telling some
story that this one is legit and telling your past scam experiences.People would eventually know and do make some judgement basing on what they had experienced.

Just like on whats being asked above, prove out that you do have decent funds to pay up your players.Also, lottery games doesnt really get too much attraction.

[FatFork]

First of all, learn how to quote. Your responses are just as sloppy as your ANN post. 

My feedback:

- The way you introduced the site is already enough reason why people should stay away from it. That's not the professional way of introducing a gambling site. Did you see a reputable gambling site owner today that shares their sentiments about their gambling experience in the past? Also, only those who have a plan of exiting someday do have a welcome note of "this is not a scam".

First of all, I wasn't cheated in gambling only on all current hyip sites
do you know a professional way to introduce a gambling site without any lies or stretches
I am not yet a reputable owner, I am just fighting for my reputation
do you think that honesty with people is a defect of humanity

You can't fight for reputation. Reputation must be earned.
And as for the professional way of introducing a gambling site, look at how others did before you. The way you do it looks like a quick money grab scheme.

- Second, you question the legality and you don't honestly care for it. Did you really think people will just throw away their money on a site like that?

  please specify, why I don't care about legality , please indicate the order that a site that doesn't use normal money or valuable items, must have a gambling license 

Do your own research. Running an unlicensed casino is a pretty serious thing.

- Prove fairness of the lottery.

  we are currently licensing our script  with    https://itechlabs.com/

Yeah, sure.

- Prove fairness of 70% 80% 90% additional winning for those who will win the respective draws.

   I can't do this without active players

Wrong. Proving fairness has nothing to do with active players.

- Prove you have decent funds

  I'd have to show you my wallet status , I doubt anyone would do that

That's exactly what you should do. Signed wallet with proof that you have the means to pay the lucky winners.

- And Gmail.com as your email domain?

  does it matter where the mail is received ??

No. But professionalism and transparency are.

[bitbunnny]

Another attempt to attract naive users and take their miney. I guess some never give up. The more they try to convince.us they are honest and transparent the more suspicious it gets.
Unfortunately there are too many shady gambling sites and too little of them that are really trustworthy and legitimate. Hope that everyone does necessary background checks before they place their money at one if these sites that are advertised above.

[freedomgo]

LOL!, the title website itself with "btcmultiplier" looks shady, personally, I would not play on your site, sorry.

I suggest you give full information about the site if you are part of the team or affiliated so we can evaluate it, limited information is shady.

[ToxicAG]

LOL!, the title website itself with "btcmultiplier" looks shady, personally, I would not play on your site, sorry.

I suggest you give full information about the site if you are part of the team or affiliated so we can evaluate it, limited information is shady.

Hello
everything will be available in time , Apple was created in the garage but thank you for your comments, certainly conclusions will be drawn

[JohnBitCo]

I guarantee everyone that it is not a scam

Said every scammer ever.
You don't even explain how the game works. There is no information on the site.

I was about to visit this site but as soon as I saw this comment, I changed my mind. Why would OP needed to say this that this is not a scam. lol

LOL!, the title website itself with "btcmultiplier" looks shady, personally, I would not play on your site, sorry.

I suggest you give full information about the site if you are part of the team or affiliated so we can evaluate it, limited information is shady.

Hello
everything will be available in time , Apple was created in the garage but thank you for your comments, certainly conclusions will be drawn

So you are a comparing your project with Apple.  Also Rome was not built in a day 

[ToxicAG]

I guarantee everyone that it is not a scam

Said every scammer ever.
You don't even explain how the game works. There is no information on the site.

I was about to visit this site but as soon as I saw this comment, I changed my mind. Why would OP needed to say this that this is not a scam. lol

it's a pity, but it's obviously your decision and everyone must respect it
regards

LOL!, the title website itself with "btcmultiplier" looks shady, personally, I would not play on your site, sorry.

I suggest you give full information about the site if you are part of the team or affiliated so we can evaluate it, limited information is shady.

Hello
everything will be available in time , Apple was created in the garage but thank you for your comments, certainly conclusions will be drawn

So you are a comparing your project with Apple.   Also Rome was not built in a day  


I don't compare myself to Apple, I just pay attention to where they started, this is just the beginning of this project

[AniviaBtc]

I guarantee everyone that it is not a scam

Said every scammer ever.
You don't even explain how the game works. There is no information on the site.

Really sounds cliche, it will surely don't work with people who are mindful enough about scams.

But we should not judge people, but as I read, it is really true that most he didn't discuss any of the instructions so how will people get the motive you want? Your instruction, your movement, your advertisement is not effective to people most especially those people who are looking for a features that will benefit them and make them comfortable gambling online. You should make something out of it to become an effective gambling website. If you really deserve to become a famous gambling website then you should work for it and earn it as long as you can.

[kryptqnick]

Welcome to this forum! It's understandable that you want to advertise your website here, but you need to understand that even though our feedback might be harsh, we're trying to help you out.
First of all, op, please quote properly, without incorporating your answers into the quotes. It makes it hard to differentiate the questions from your responses.
Secondly, make a nice ANN thread, similar to those other websites have (with screenshots, links and stuff like that).
Finally, no offense but the website's design with winning opportunities and a creeping line don't encourage me to trust this website.

[Haunebu]

Way too many red flags here op. Let me summarize my views:

- Horrible ANN thread
- No live customer support
- No way to prove that your games are 100% fair
- Site name is way too shady
- Site design is pretty bad

Overall, this might not be a scam, but you need to improve in all these departments if you wish to attract gamblers.

[nakamura12]

Way too many red flags here op. Let me summarize my views:

- Horrible ANN thread
- No live customer support
- No way to prove that your games are 100% fair
- Site name is way too shady
- Site design is pretty bad

Overall, this might not be a scam, but you need to improve in all these departments if you wish to attract gamblers.

If only op would consider your suggestion then the op can edit the ann thread to make it better, prove the fairness to people here  and have a live customer support for the people who might experienced an issue in the site. The site name in my opinion doesn't feel like a gambling site but more of a game that is cryptocurrency based game.

[ToxicAG]

Way too many red flags here op. Let me summarize my views:

- Horrible ANN thread
- No live customer support
- No way to prove that your games are 100% fair
- Site name is way too shady
- Site design is pretty bad

Overall, this might not be a scam, but you need to improve in all these departments if you wish to attract gamblers.

If only op would consider your suggestion then the op can edit the ann thread to make it better, prove the fairness to people here  and have a live customer support for the people who might experienced an issue in the site. The site name in my opinion doesn't feel like a gambling site but more of a game that is cryptocurrency based game.

That's right, this is not a gambling site, this is just one game

[FatFork]

That's right, this is not a gambling site, this is just one game

Nevertheless, you should still make the game provably fair from a technical standpoint. No one in their right minds would blindly believe on your word that the game is not rigged.

[ToxicAG]

I may have misrepresented this project , thank you for your comments I will try to present it differently
the site has been designed to order the algorithm was created by the company HONETI
https://honeti.com/
we are applying for licenses for our algorithm in the company https://itechlabs.com/
it will take a while because it is a very expensive procedure
this site is not a casino this is one game using only Bitcoin you can say this is an offline game
but there is communication between players , chat is available on the site players can exchange insights directly on the site
when it comes to support we are available to chat where it is possible to create private rooms
and on our chat channel in the telegram program https://t.me/BitcoinBetGame2020
how our service works
here we are not based on classic algorithms like in big casinos our algorithm uses a decimal system
that's why we don't need financial security
Ten people are always needed to run the game that's why your chances of winning are completely justified for example, ten people bet on lotteries 90% then out of these ten people nine wins
the tenth player's pool is divided into ten parts nine parts are transferred to nine wins and tenth is our commission
The funds are immediately transferred to the player's account and are immediately ready for withdrawal
we used three different levels
90% chance to win   + reward 10%
80% chance to win   + reward 20%
70% chance to win  + reward 30%
when it comes to the referral system we offer $ 100 for inviting ten players $ 1,000 for inviting a hundred players , all invited players must achieve active player status that is, he must play in ten lotteries no matter what we finance rewards from commissions and the rest of our funds

https://bitcoinbetgame.com/#/

[FatFork]

<snip>

These are all nice stories, you know. But that still says nothing about the provably fair system.

It's like saying, send me your money and I'll pick a few people to share the spoils with.

[ToxicAG]

<snip>

These are all nice stories, you know. But that still says nothing about the provably fair system.

It's like saying, send me your money and I'll pick a few people to share the spoils with.

Hi
it's hard to prove, the scheme is logical, the algorithm chooses, not me , therefore, ten people are needed to prove
otherwise how can I do it , you want, I will send you the source code for the algorithm , I don't force anyone to play
everybody will do as he thinks

[FatFork]

<snip>

These are all nice stories, you know. But that still says nothing about the provably fair system.

It's like saying, send me your money and I'll pick a few people to share the spoils with.

Hi
it's hard to prove, the scheme is logical, the algorithm chooses, not me , therefore, ten people are needed to prove
otherwise how can I do it , you want, I will send you the source code for the algorithm , I don't force anyone to play
everybody will do as he thinks

Knowledge is the virtue, you know? First, research what provably fair means. You have a lot of information on this topic on bitcointalk as well. Then, you will realize that this rambling of yours makes no sense.

EDIT: Here are some topics that might be of interest to you:
Why YOU should really care about Provably Fair...
"Provably Fair": How Fair & Provable is it?
What is a "Provably Fair" and How does it work?

[adaseb]

The reason why you are getting tons of critisisms is because of the way you are presenting your site. Generally when a site is half finished, poorly designed, bad english, unprofessional ANN in this forum then 9 times out of 10 it was a scam in the past.

You might be legit and not scam people but the way you desribe everything makes it seem like you just want to make a quick buck scamming people. Take the site offline, finish it properly, correct all the errors, read the comments in this thread and follow them and then relaunch it.

We also need some proof of provably fair and some form of cold storage to prove solvency. You should sign your BTC address with todays date and a message to prove you have enough funds to pay out the gamblers incase the site becomes slightly unprofitable temporarily due to variance.

[JohnBitCo]

I guarantee everyone that it is not a scam

Said every scammer ever.
You don't even explain how the game works. There is no information on the site.

I was about to visit this site but as soon as I saw this comment, I changed my mind. Why would OP needed to say this that this is not a scam. lol

it's a pity, but it's obviously your decision and everyone must respect it
regards

LOL!, the title website itself with "btcmultiplier" looks shady, personally, I would not play on your site, sorry.

I suggest you give full information about the site if you are part of the team or affiliated so we can evaluate it, limited information is shady.

Hello
everything will be available in time , Apple was created in the garage but thank you for your comments, certainly conclusions will be drawn

So you are a comparing your project with Apple.   Also Rome was not built in a day  


I don't compare myself to Apple, I just pay attention to where they started, this is just the beginning of this project

I see you are very committed to your project and incipte of lot of criticism you are defending your project to be a legit one. All of us has no ad intention towards you but we are raising the concerns which we feel here. Anyways i will be following this project in the next couple of weeks to see where it is going. Mind it that you cannot scam for a long time and if your project is good one, then all these negative comments will be turned positive in your favor.

[xvids]

I guarantee everyone that it is not a scam

Said every scammer ever.
You don't even explain how the game works. There is no information on the site.

you don't even want to come to the site and read the terms of use , everything is described on the page
if you are cheated, you can call me a cheater
but not before, please

Translated to - Let me steal your money first & then you can moan

Best translation that I've read so far and very accurate.
OP I don't think that anyone would really take this seriously the way you promote it is to tiring to read.
You just need to post the most needed information for us to know what it is on your platform.
Besides when promoting a project you don't need to tell us that it isn't a scam you've just made it more suspicious.

[Haunebu]

Hi
it's hard to prove, the scheme is logical, the algorithm chooses, not me , therefore, ten people are needed to prove
otherwise how can I do it , you want, I will send you the source code for the algorithm , I don't force anyone to play
everybody will do as he thinks

You are missing the point. Words are not enough to justify your legitimacy. Why would ten people want to deposit their hard earned money into a shady website when they could deposit it into a legit site instead?

Even if you send random amounts to people to test your site, that still wouldn't be enough. The only way you can turn this around is if you listen to our feedback and make the appropriate changes and relaunch it in a better way later.

[justdimin]

First of all even the name of the topic is not really correct way to start. I first read the topic name and thought this was a discussion topic and not an announcement topic. Normally when you announce a game you write the name of the game on the topic itself to get a lot more attention, this way people literally come to this topic to discuss about starting a casino in 2020 and how is it different than starting one before.

Aside from that, like everyone has mentioned before, topic needs to start with good images and good marketing, basically all around better design, even if you are not a scam, this still doesn't change the fact that it needs to have a lot better UI than this to attract customers. Maybe you have great features but as long as it is not appealing you will have hard time getting people to it.

[seoincorporation]

https://bitcoinbetgame.com/#/rules
The withdrawal of assets.
The charge for withdrawal of assets will be paid by the player. This is a fixed fee 0.0004 BTC or 0.4 mBTC

Lottery rules.
Every player has three levels of difficulty and can bet on a lottery at her/his discretion.
GOLDEN LEVEL gives every player a 70% chance to win 30% of betting amount. (For example: You bet on an amount of 0.10 BTC and you win 0.13 BTC ).
SILVER LEVER gives every player a 80% chance to win 20% of betting amount. (For example: You bet on an amount of 0.10 BTC and you win 0.12 BTC).
BROWN LEVEL gives every player a 90% chance to win 10% of betting amount. (For example: You bet on an amount of 0.10 BTC and you win 0.11 BTC).

I don't get the game at all, if you need 10 players to start each round then why the chance to win is 70% to 90%? If there are 10 users and only one win, then the chance to win is 10%.

And if we place a bet of 1.5mbtc to win 1.95mbtc, then we are talking about 10 users paying 1.5mbtc each one, that means the house earns 15mbtc and they pay only 1.95mbtc... that's the worst house edge I have ever seen.

So, the problem with this casino is:
-No provably fair
-Big withdraw fees
-Enormous house edge
-Not a gambling license
-Unclear math

[serjent05]

This throws me off:

you'll ask if it's legal Huh first you have to answer the question  , in which countries Bitcoin is considered a legal means of payment ?? as far as I know is tolerated, but is not an official paying unit

I often hear this from MLM crypto scammers whenever someone asked them about their company licenses.  I am not saying that you (OP) are scammer but you (OP) sounded like one. 

I don't get the game at all, if you need 10 players to start each round then why the chance to win is 70% to 90%? If there are 10 users and only one win, then the chance to win is 10%.

And if we place a bet of 1.5mbtc to win 1.95btc, then we are talking about 10 users paying 1.5mbtc each one, that means the house earns 15mbtc and they pay only 1.95btc... that's the worst house edge I have ever seen.

So, the problem with this casino is:
-No provably fair
-Big withdraw fees
-Enormous house edge
-Not a gambling license
-Unclear math

Bolded some data that confused me.  Isn't the gambling company giving away too much if they give away 1.95 BTC from one of the 10 people who bet 1.5mbtc?

[Bitcoin Marketing]

Way too many red flags here op. Let me summarize my views:

- Horrible ANN thread
- No live customer support
- No way to prove that your games are 100% fair
- Site name is way too shady
- Site design is pretty bad

Overall, this might not be a scam, but you need to improve in all these departments if you wish to attract gamblers.

Well said , well summarized

[ToxicAG]

https://bitcoinbetgame.com/#/rules
The withdrawal of assets.
The charge for withdrawal of assets will be paid by the player. This is a fixed fee 0.0004 BTC or 0.4 mBTC

Lottery rules.
Every player has three levels of difficulty and can bet on a lottery at her/his discretion.
GOLDEN LEVEL gives every player a 70% chance to win 30% of betting amount. (For example: You bet on an amount of 0.10 BTC and you win 0.13 BTC ).
SILVER LEVER gives every player a 80% chance to win 20% of betting amount. (For example: You bet on an amount of 0.10 BTC and you win 0.12 BTC).
BROWN LEVEL gives every player a 90% chance to win 10% of betting amount. (For example: You bet on an amount of 0.10 BTC and you win 0.11 BTC).

I don't get the game at all, if you need 10 players to start each round then why the chance to win is 70% to 90%? If there are 10 users and only one win, then the chance to win is 10%.

And if we place a bet of 1.5mbtc to win 1.95btc, then we are talking about 10 users paying 1.5mbtc each one, that means the house earns 15mbtc and they pay only 1.95btc... that's the worst house edge I have ever seen.

So, the problem with this casino is:
-No provably fair
-Big withdraw fees
-Enormous house edge
-Not a gambling license

you can bet and shut down the computer , if no one joins the game within 24 hours funds are automatically returned to your account
if ten players bet 1.5 mBTC to win 1.95 mBTC of these ten wins seven (70%) and three players lose, seven players collect the 1.95 mBTC (+30%= 0,45 mBTC) , my commission on this bet is 0,45 mBTC so where do you see this advantage here
as far as I know games that do not use normal money and valuables do not necessarily have to have a gambling license
I am in the process of licensing the algorithm  
thank you for your comment , but don't judge too harshly because you don't quite understand
I accept your criticism and I will try to correct everything you write about
As for the forum, I am very sorry for everyone, but this is my second forum in which I write something I don't have the experience here like you all
I greet you



-Unclear math

[ToxicAG]

This throws me off:

you'll ask if it's legal Huh first you have to answer the question  , in which countries Bitcoin is considered a legal means of payment ?? as far as I know is tolerated, but is not an official paying unit

I often hear this from MLM crypto scammers whenever someone asked them about their company licenses.  I am not saying that you (OP) are scammer but you (OP) sounded like one. 

I understand you, and I'm sorry it sounded that way

I don't get the game at all, if you need 10 players to start each round then why the chance to win is 70% to 90%? If there are 10 users and only one win, then the chance to win is 10%.

And if we place a bet of 1.5mbtc to win 1.95btc, then we are talking about 10 users paying 1.5mbtc each one, that means the house earns 15mbtc and they pay only 1.95btc... that's the worst house edge I have ever seen.

So, the problem with this casino is:
-No provably fair
-Big withdraw fees
-Enormous house edge
-Not a gambling license
-Unclear math

Bolded some data that confused me.  Isn't the gambling company giving away too much if they give away 1.95 BTC from one of the 10 people who bet 1.5mbtc?

that's not right, read the post above

[FatFork]

that's not right, read the post above

Also, learn how to quote replies, dammit !

[dunfida]

Way too many red flags here op. Let me summarize my views:

- Horrible ANN thread
- No live customer support
- No way to prove that your games are 100% fair
- Site name is way too shady
- Site design is pretty bad

Overall, this might not be a scam, but you need to improve in all these departments if you wish to attract gamblers.

Well said , well summarized

I cant say such thing , even though he do improve those departments but doesnt guarantee that it would be played by lots of players yet we know on how lottery game sites perform in crypto market as i said
on earlier page.

In short it isnt really that demand.Lastly, i do have that first impressions on seeing a hyip site rather than a lottery one.Ive been asking on proof of funds for this one but it seems it just being ignored by OP. 

[seoincorporation]

https://bitcoinbetgame.com/#/rules
The withdrawal of assets.
The charge for withdrawal of assets will be paid by the player. This is a fixed fee 0.0004 BTC or 0.4 mBTC

Lottery rules.
Every player has three levels of difficulty and can bet on a lottery at her/his discretion.
GOLDEN LEVEL gives every player a 70% chance to win 30% of betting amount. (For example: You bet on an amount of 0.10 BTC and you win 0.13 BTC ).
SILVER LEVER gives every player a 80% chance to win 20% of betting amount. (For example: You bet on an amount of 0.10 BTC and you win 0.12 BTC).
BROWN LEVEL gives every player a 90% chance to win 10% of betting amount. (For example: You bet on an amount of 0.10 BTC and you win 0.11 BTC).

I don't get the game at all, if you need 10 players to start each round then why the chance to win is 70% to 90%? If there are 10 users and only one win, then the chance to win is 10%.

And if we place a bet of 1.5mbtc to win 1.95mbtc, then we are talking about 10 users paying 1.5mbtc each one, that means the house earns 15mbtc and they pay only 1.95mbtc... that's the worst house edge I have ever seen.

So, the problem with this casino is:
-No provably fair
-Big withdraw fees
-Enormous house edge
-Not a gambling license

you can bet and shut down the computer , if no one joins the game within 24 hours funds are automatically returned to your account
if ten players bet 1.5 mBTC to win 1.95 mBTC of these ten wins seven (70%) and three players lose, seven players collect the 1.95 mBTC (+30%= 0,45 mBTC) , my commission on this bet is 0,45 mBTC so where do you see this advantage here
as far as I know games that do not use normal money and valuables do not necessarily have to have a gambling license
I am in the process of licensing the algorithm  
thank you for your comment , but don't judge too harshly because you don't quite understand
I accept your criticism and I will try to correct everything you write about
As for the forum, I am very sorry for everyone, but this is my second forum in which I write something I don't have the experience here like you all
I greet you



-Unclear math

Thanks for your reply ToxicAG, i just want to get the things clear about your casino.

Ok i correct the text, it wasn't 1.95BTC, it was 1.95mbtc... sorry for the typo.

So, 10 players making a depo of 1.5mbtc mean 15mBTC depo... and 7 users win 1.95, that's 13.65mbtc for the users and you get in your pocket 1.35mbtc close to 10% house edge, that's why i don't get why you say your commission is 0,45...

But if those 7 users withdraw their profit that means each one of them should pay 0.0004 BTC as withdrawal fees. and that's 0.0028BTC to your pockets again.

So, what's the sense to have a game to win 1.95 with a 1.5 bet if the casino will take 0.4 for the withdraw?

[YOSHIE]

I noticed something strange about the bitcoinbetgame.com gambling site.

Dear Sir or Madam
I would like to introduce to you a newly opened project , this is a bitcoin game.
https://bitcoinbetgame.com/#/

OP, I see that the site bitcoinbetgame.com has been promoted earlier than OP.

Try to note the two sites the same name, but the contents in different sites.

https://bitcoinbetgames.com/

This one comes first from the OP site.

Topic: BitcoinBetGames.com • FREE BTC • Video Poker • Quincunx • Provably Fair • NEW

Topic: bitcoinbetgames.com UNTRUSTWORTHY

I think this one is official, from the current OP site.

[Ailurophile]

Way too many red flags here op. Let me summarize my views:

- Horrible ANN thread
- No live customer support
- No way to prove that your games are 100% fair
- Site name is way too shady
- Site design is pretty bad

Overall, this might not be a scam, but you need to improve in all these departments if you wish to attract gamblers.

If only op would consider your suggestion then the op can edit the ann thread to make it better, prove the fairness to people here  and have a live customer support for the people who might experienced an issue in the site. The site name in my opinion doesn't feel like a gambling site but more of a game that is cryptocurrency based game.

That's right, this is not a gambling site, this is just one game

Are you serious OP? Look at your threads title and you would tell us that this is not a gambling site?
I think you aren't really ready to handle such business at all.
You would promote it as new gambling website and you would tell us that it isn't one because this is just one game?
How do you define a gambling site? does it need to be more than one game to be considered as a gambling site?
Then what is this you are promoting an investment scheme?

[bitbunnny]

Way too many red flags here op. Let me summarize my views:

- Horrible ANN thread
- No live customer support
- No way to prove that your games are 100% fair
- Site name is way too shady
- Site design is pretty bad

Overall, this might not be a scam, but you need to improve in all these departments if you wish to attract gamblers.

If only op would consider your suggestion then the op can edit the ann thread to make it better, prove the fairness to people here  and have a live customer support for the people who might experienced an issue in the site. The site name in my opinion doesn't feel like a gambling site but more of a game that is cryptocurrency based game.

That's right, this is not a gambling site, this is just one game

Are you serious OP? Look at your threads title and you would tell us that this is not a gambling site?
I think you aren't really ready to handle such business at all.
You would promote it as new gambling website and you would tell us that it isn't one because this is just one game?
How do you define a gambling site? does it need to be more than one game to be considered as a gambling site?
Then what is this you are promoting an investment scheme?

That isn't a surprise to me. So much people think they can just grab money from naive users so they come to ideas like this. Of course they don't have enough knowledge, experiences and in most cases they are not trustworthy to run business of any kind but still they hope some will fall for it. And the worst thing is that this is really going to happen. Shady schemes appear all around us all the time.

[ToxicAG]

Way too many red flags here op. Let me summarize my views:

- Horrible ANN thread
- No live customer support
- No way to prove that your games are 100% fair
- Site name is way too shady
- Site design is pretty bad

Overall, this might not be a scam, but you need to improve in all these departments if you wish to attract gamblers.

If only op would consider your suggestion then the op can edit the ann thread to make it better, prove the fairness to people here  and have a live customer support for the people who might experienced an issue in the site. The site name in my opinion doesn't feel like a gambling site but more of a game that is cryptocurrency based game.

That's right, this is not a gambling site, this is just one game

Are you serious OP? Look at your threads title and you would tell us that this is not a gambling site?
I think you aren't really ready to handle such business at all.
You would promote it as new gambling website and you would tell us that it isn't one because this is just one game?
How do you define a gambling site? does it need to be more than one game to be considered as a gambling site?
Then what is this you are promoting an investment scheme?

I didn't say it wasn't a gambling game , this is not a casino, but one game,a casino can be called a site with a minimum of two games , Gambling licenses definitely need a website which have the option of exchanging the cryptocurrency for FIAT and vice versa , they use payment engines VISA , Mastercard , PayPal , Payeer ........... or you can win valuable items on them
You criticize me all the time but look for something about it

[ToxicAG]

https://bitcoinbetgame.com/#/rules
The withdrawal of assets.
The charge for withdrawal of assets will be paid by the player. This is a fixed fee 0.0004 BTC or 0.4 mBTC

Lottery rules.
Every player has three levels of difficulty and can bet on a lottery at her/his discretion.
GOLDEN LEVEL gives every player a 70% chance to win 30% of betting amount. (For example: You bet on an amount of 0.10 BTC and you win 0.13 BTC ).
SILVER LEVER gives every player a 80% chance to win 20% of betting amount. (For example: You bet on an amount of 0.10 BTC and you win 0.12 BTC).
BROWN LEVEL gives every player a 90% chance to win 10% of betting amount. (For example: You bet on an amount of 0.10 BTC and you win 0.11 BTC).

I don't get the game at all, if you need 10 players to start each round then why the chance to win is 70% to 90%? If there are 10 users and only one win, then the chance to win is 10%.

And if we place a bet of 1.5mbtc to win 1.95mbtc, then we are talking about 10 users paying 1.5mbtc each one, that means the house earns 15mbtc and they pay only 1.95mbtc... that's the worst house edge I have ever seen.

So, the problem with this casino is:
-No provably fair
-Big withdraw fees
-Enormous house edge
-Not a gambling license

you can bet and shut down the computer , if no one joins the game within 24 hours funds are automatically returned to your account
if ten players bet 1.5 mBTC to win 1.95 mBTC of these ten wins seven (70%) and three players lose, seven players collect the 1.95 mBTC (+30%= 0,45 mBTC) , my commission on this bet is 0,45 mBTC so where do you see this advantage here
as far as I know games that do not use normal money and valuables do not necessarily have to have a gambling license
I am in the process of licensing the algorithm  
thank you for your comment , but don't judge too harshly because you don't quite understand
I accept your criticism and I will try to correct everything you write about
As for the forum, I am very sorry for everyone, but this is my second forum in which I write something I don't have the experience here like you all
I greet you



-Unclear math

Thanks for your reply ToxicAG, i just want to get the things clear about your casino.

Ok i correct the text, it wasn't 1.95BTC, it was 1.95mbtc... sorry for the typo.

So, 10 players making a depo of 1.5mbtc mean 15mBTC depo... and 7 users win 1.95, that's 13.65mbtc for the users and you get in your pocket 1.35mbtc close to 10% house edge, that's why i don't get why you say your commission is 0,45...

But if those 7 users withdraw their profit that means each one of them should pay 0.0004 BTC as withdrawal fees. and that's 0.0028BTC to your pockets again.

So, what's the sense to have a game to win 1.95 with a 1.5 bet if the casino will take 0.4 for the withdraw?

Hello
my commission is 10% of the amount of 1.5 mBTC = 0.15 mBTC , charge 0.0004 BTC charges Blockchain for withdrawals and not my site , every win is credited to the player's account in the game immediately without any fees , The fee is charged only when withdrawing to an external wallet it is known that how you will pay out daily or several times a day will be expensive

[ToxicAG]

I noticed something strange about the bitcoinbetgame.com gambling site.

Dear Sir or Madam
I would like to introduce to you a newly opened project , this is a bitcoin game.
https://bitcoinbetgame.com/#/

OP, I see that the site bitcoinbetgame.com has been promoted earlier than OP.

Try to note the two sites the same name, but the contents in different sites.

https://bitcoinbetgames.com/
https://bitcoinbetgames.com/img/logo.png

This one comes first from the OP site.

Topic: BitcoinBetGames.com • FREE BTC • Video Poker • Quincunx • Provably Fair • NEW

Topic: bitcoinbetgames.com UNTRUSTWORTHY

I think this one is official, from the current OP site.

I read about them my site has nothing to do with bitcoinbetgames.com

[FatFork]

I didn't say it wasn't a gambling game , this is not a casino, but one game,a casino can be called a site with a minimum of two games , Gambling licenses definitely need a website which have the option of exchanging the cryptocurrency for FIAT and vice versa , they use payment engines VISA , Mastercard , PayPal , Payeer ........... or you can win valuable items on them
You criticize me all the time but look for something about it

You are definitely wrong. Gambling licenses have nothing to do with deposit and withdrawal options.
You should read something about it first.

You're still avoiding the 'provably fair' question. Why would anyone bet on your site when there are a number of legitimate casinos with much better odds?

[ethereumhunter]

One new gambling site launch, but I wonder why we need to register to the site just to test the site? Is the OP want to know how big the interest of people or he wants to collect the email address from the people? I guess that he can make a demo account or temporary account so we can test the site, and we don't have to register, and maybe if the site becomes bigger, then the OP can promote with many methods.

[naikturun]

the simple review from me,what a gambling site giving a guarantee to win up to 90% , if there must required 10 people for each gameplay.
so that mean every people have 90% chance ? itsn't ? and the meaning of it every gameplay just 1 player will lose ? and also i bet for 10% winning amount ? , its too unfair.
i prefer choose a simple loterry.

[ToxicAG]

One new gambling site launch, but I wonder why we need to register to the site just to test the site? Is the OP want to know how big the interest of people or he wants to collect the email address from the people? I guess that he can make a demo account or temporary account so we can test the site, and we don't have to register, and maybe if the site becomes bigger, then the OP can promote with many methods.

you don't have to provide an email address, but this will make communication difficult you can enter, for example, an email address   bobo@tutti.com

[seoincorporation]

...
Hello
my commission is 10% of the amount of 1.5 mBTC = 0.15 mBTC , charge 0.0004 BTC charges Blockchain for withdrawals and not my site , every win is credited to the player's account in the game immediately without any fees , The fee is charged only when withdrawing to an external wallet it is known that how you will pay out daily or several times a day will be expensive

Your commission of 10% is an enormous house edge, you should think about it. Casinos should have a house edge 3% max.

The provably fair issue is something important because if you can prove your bets are provably fair then they are rigged.

And about the 0.0004btc charged from blockchain, that's a lie... if we see https://bitcoinfees.earn.com/ we have:

For the median transaction size of 223 bytes, this results in a fee of 4,906 satoshis.

While you charge 40,000 satoshis.

I tell you all this because i really like casinos, and if you fix this thing people will trust in your site, another way they will feel scammed.

So, good luck and happy gambling.

[ToxicAG]

I didn't say it wasn't a gambling game , this is not a casino, but one game,a casino can be called a site with a minimum of two games , Gambling licenses definitely need a website which have the option of exchanging the cryptocurrency for FIAT and vice versa , they use payment engines VISA , Mastercard , PayPal , Payeer ........... or you can win valuable items on them
You criticize me all the time but look for something about it

You are definitely wrong. Gambling licenses have nothing to do with deposit and withdrawal options.
You should read something about it first.

You're still avoiding the 'provably fair' question. Why would anyone bet on your site when there are a number of legitimate casinos with much better odds?

The legislation in the area of Bitcoin gambling is very immature and leaves a lot of space for speculation. Operators starting their online casinos that will accept Bitcoin are often confused by controversial facts and ambiguous decisions of authorities in regards to the cryptocurrency. Desiring to operate their business in a legal way, they try to find out if offering gambling services for Bitcoin is legal, whether a Bitcoin casino needs to be licensed, and players from what countries can be accepted.

Key facts on Bitcoin gambling legality
As of today there are no single, clear-cut answers to the questions above. However, here are some useful key points that need to be understood:

1) In general there are no specific laws regulating Bitcoin gambling. It is neither officially allowed nor prohibited.

2) Attitude of different authorities to Bitcoin is changing quite rapidly, with more and more countries looking at Bitcoin positively and discussing regulation of cryptocurrencies and blockchain-based services. However, most governments today are still not referring to Bitcoin as to real currency. If it’s not a “real” currency, any regulations around traditional (fiat currency) online casinos should not be applied to Bitcoin gambling websites.

3) Despite the above, in countries where gambling is strictly prohibited, like the United States, the authorities may still take strong measures against Bitcoin gambling websites and/or gamblers who make wagers with Bitcoin.

4) Bitcoin gaming websites offer the benefit of increased anonymity to players. Bitcoin payments combined with anonymizing techniques like Tor make it extremely hard for the authorities to trace gamblers.

5) A few reputable gambling jurisdictions already issue licenses to casinos accepting Bitcoin (notably, Curacao and the United Kingdom), which means they accept the responsibility of controlling operation of cryptocurrency websites. As long as the online casino is following the rules and regulations of the chosen jurisdiction, it operates legally.

Should a Bitcoin casino have a gambling license?
It is important to understand that a gambling license is absolutely necessary for an iGaming business to pass the application for a merchant bank account and to officially work with electronic payment systems. When the casino website is working with Bitcoin, all of payment processing can be performed internally with no third party services involved that can control the crypto payment infrastructure. Deposits and withdrawals are transferred almost instantly and Bitcoins move directly between the player’s and the casino’s Bitcoin wallets. Thus, the necessity to present a gaming license to any financial institutions is eliminated. Therefore one could argue that when it comes to working with Bitcoin, a gambling license is optional or at least not a prerequisite to accepting payments.

[YOSHIE]

I read about them my site has nothing to do with bitcoinbetgames.com

so what is the name of the site that you have. Lol

There is a suspicion about your site is very vulnerable to fraud, we are familiar with this kind of site.
It's not that easy we fall in love with a scam site.

Dear Sir or Madam
I would like to introduce to you a newly opened project , this is a bitcoin game
https://bitcoinbetgame.com/#/

There are several methods that should be suspected of your site at this time.

1. gmail, which you use is named: bitcoinbetgame.com.
2. Your Facebook and Twitter can't open the link.
3. Your site telegram is not the same as your site.

@BitcoinLotteryMultiplier2020

Usually if the gambling site is officially telegram, facebook, twitter the same as the website name and can be opened immediately.

Everything on your site is suspicious.

[ToxicAG]

...
Hello
my commission is 10% of the amount of 1.5 mBTC = 0.15 mBTC , charge 0.0004 BTC charges Blockchain for withdrawals and not my site , every win is credited to the player's account in the game immediately without any fees , The fee is charged only when withdrawing to an external wallet it is known that how you will pay out daily or several times a day will be expensive

Your commission of 10% is an enormous house edge, you should think about it. Casinos should have a house edge 3% max.

The provably fair issue is something important because if you can prove your bets are provably fair then they are rigged.

And about the 0.0004btc charged from blockchain, that's a lie... if we see https://bitcoinfees.earn.com/ we have:

For the median transaction size of 223 bytes, this results in a fee of 4,906 satoshis.

While you charge 40,000 satoshis.

I tell you all this because i really like casinos, and if you fix this thing people will trust in your site, another way they will feel scammed.

So, good luck and happy gambling.

40,000 satoshis it's the cost of paying for an external wallet
I agree with you I will try to change it in the future, I don't like it either , unfortunately iformatists have now set up a payer system that charges such fees
I am really sorry for such inconvenience

[FatFork]

<snip>

I have no idea where you copied that text from (you did not provide the source of the quote) but things are not that simple.
For example, read this article: https://cointelegraph.com/news/how-crypto-gambling-is-regulated-around-the-world

So the least you should do is restrict access to players from certain countries.

[serjent05]

I read about them my site has nothing to do with bitcoinbetgames.com

so what is the name of the site that you have. Lol

There is a suspicion about your site is very vulnerable to fraud, we are familiar with this kind of site.
It's not that easy we fall in love with a scam site.

Dear Sir or Madam
I would like to introduce to you a newly opened project , this is a bitcoin game
https://bitcoinbetgame.com/#/

Technically speaking these two site is not the same unless there is a proven fact that the owner of both sites is the same.  Bitcoinbetgame.com is not = Bitcoinbetgames.com.  Though I slightly agree with you on your thought about the presentation of their site.
 For me, it does not support any gambling site that they are legit and not a scam if their email looks professional or they have a complete set of social media where we can contact them.  If a company wanted to scam us, they will do their best to be the most presentable so they will be unnoticed of their hidden agenda.  We should be vigilant no matter how beautiful or sloppy the site presentation is until they have proven that they can be trusted.

[naikturun]

the simple review from me,what a gambling site giving a guarantee to win up to 90% , if there must required 10 people for each gameplay.
so that mean every people have 90% chance ? itsn't ? and the meaning of it every gameplay just 1 player will lose ? and also i bet for 10% winning amount ? , its too unfair.
i prefer choose a simple loterry.

it is not fair that one player out of ten loses ??  ,  and is it fair when one in a thousand players wins ??
I'm sorry but I don't understand your point

at least i am not bet for 10% profit on gambling site, u know exactly about 10% profit can be get easily without high risk become a bad luck player such as holding some coins or try to invest rather than playing here. Also about traditional lottery is totally reasonible since the profit also reasonible,because actually gambling its not about risk,but about profit.
that why,u didn't understand my point.