Opening a new gambling website 2020'

[ToxicAG]

Way too many red flags here op. Let me summarize my views:

- Horrible ANN thread
- No live customer support
- No way to prove that your games are 100% fair
- Site name is way too shady
- Site design is pretty bad

Overall, this might not be a scam, but you need to improve in all these departments if you wish to attract gamblers.

If only op would consider your suggestion then the op can edit the ann thread to make it better, prove the fairness to people here  and have a live customer support for the people who might experienced an issue in the site. The site name in my opinion doesn't feel like a gambling site but more of a game that is cryptocurrency based game.

That's right, this is not a gambling site, this is just one game

[FatFork]

That's right, this is not a gambling site, this is just one game

Nevertheless, you should still make the game provably fair from a technical standpoint. No one in their right minds would blindly believe on your word that the game is not rigged.

[ToxicAG]

I may have misrepresented this project , thank you for your comments I will try to present it differently
the site has been designed to order the algorithm was created by the company HONETI
https://honeti.com/
we are applying for licenses for our algorithm in the company https://itechlabs.com/
it will take a while because it is a very expensive procedure
this site is not a casino this is one game using only Bitcoin you can say this is an offline game
but there is communication between players , chat is available on the site players can exchange insights directly on the site
when it comes to support we are available to chat where it is possible to create private rooms
and on our chat channel in the telegram program https://t.me/BitcoinBetGame2020
how our service works
here we are not based on classic algorithms like in big casinos our algorithm uses a decimal system
that's why we don't need financial security
Ten people are always needed to run the game that's why your chances of winning are completely justified for example, ten people bet on lotteries 90% then out of these ten people nine wins
the tenth player's pool is divided into ten parts nine parts are transferred to nine wins and tenth is our commission
The funds are immediately transferred to the player's account and are immediately ready for withdrawal
we used three different levels
90% chance to win   + reward 10%
80% chance to win   + reward 20%
70% chance to win  + reward 30%
when it comes to the referral system we offer $ 100 for inviting ten players $ 1,000 for inviting a hundred players , all invited players must achieve active player status that is, he must play in ten lotteries no matter what we finance rewards from commissions and the rest of our funds

https://bitcoinbetgame.com/#/

[FatFork]

<snip>

These are all nice stories, you know. But that still says nothing about the provably fair system.

It's like saying, send me your money and I'll pick a few people to share the spoils with.

[ToxicAG]

<snip>

These are all nice stories, you know. But that still says nothing about the provably fair system.

It's like saying, send me your money and I'll pick a few people to share the spoils with.

Hi
it's hard to prove, the scheme is logical, the algorithm chooses, not me , therefore, ten people are needed to prove
otherwise how can I do it , you want, I will send you the source code for the algorithm , I don't force anyone to play
everybody will do as he thinks

[FatFork]

<snip>

These are all nice stories, you know. But that still says nothing about the provably fair system.

It's like saying, send me your money and I'll pick a few people to share the spoils with.

Hi
it's hard to prove, the scheme is logical, the algorithm chooses, not me , therefore, ten people are needed to prove
otherwise how can I do it , you want, I will send you the source code for the algorithm , I don't force anyone to play
everybody will do as he thinks

Knowledge is the virtue, you know? First, research what provably fair means. You have a lot of information on this topic on bitcointalk as well. Then, you will realize that this rambling of yours makes no sense.

EDIT: Here are some topics that might be of interest to you:
Why YOU should really care about Provably Fair...
"Provably Fair": How Fair & Provable is it?
What is a "Provably Fair" and How does it work?

[adaseb]

The reason why you are getting tons of critisisms is because of the way you are presenting your site. Generally when a site is half finished, poorly designed, bad english, unprofessional ANN in this forum then 9 times out of 10 it was a scam in the past.

You might be legit and not scam people but the way you desribe everything makes it seem like you just want to make a quick buck scamming people. Take the site offline, finish it properly, correct all the errors, read the comments in this thread and follow them and then relaunch it.

We also need some proof of provably fair and some form of cold storage to prove solvency. You should sign your BTC address with todays date and a message to prove you have enough funds to pay out the gamblers incase the site becomes slightly unprofitable temporarily due to variance.

[JohnBitCo]

I guarantee everyone that it is not a scam

Said every scammer ever.
You don't even explain how the game works. There is no information on the site.

I was about to visit this site but as soon as I saw this comment, I changed my mind. Why would OP needed to say this that this is not a scam. lol

it's a pity, but it's obviously your decision and everyone must respect it
regards

LOL!, the title website itself with "btcmultiplier" looks shady, personally, I would not play on your site, sorry.

I suggest you give full information about the site if you are part of the team or affiliated so we can evaluate it, limited information is shady.

Hello
everything will be available in time , Apple was created in the garage but thank you for your comments, certainly conclusions will be drawn

So you are a comparing your project with Apple.   Also Rome was not built in a day  


I don't compare myself to Apple, I just pay attention to where they started, this is just the beginning of this project

I see you are very committed to your project and incipte of lot of criticism you are defending your project to be a legit one. All of us has no ad intention towards you but we are raising the concerns which we feel here. Anyways i will be following this project in the next couple of weeks to see where it is going. Mind it that you cannot scam for a long time and if your project is good one, then all these negative comments will be turned positive in your favor.

[xvids]

I guarantee everyone that it is not a scam

Said every scammer ever.
You don't even explain how the game works. There is no information on the site.

you don't even want to come to the site and read the terms of use , everything is described on the page
if you are cheated, you can call me a cheater
but not before, please

Translated to - Let me steal your money first & then you can moan

Best translation that I've read so far and very accurate.
OP I don't think that anyone would really take this seriously the way you promote it is to tiring to read.
You just need to post the most needed information for us to know what it is on your platform.
Besides when promoting a project you don't need to tell us that it isn't a scam you've just made it more suspicious.

[Haunebu]

Hi
it's hard to prove, the scheme is logical, the algorithm chooses, not me , therefore, ten people are needed to prove
otherwise how can I do it , you want, I will send you the source code for the algorithm , I don't force anyone to play
everybody will do as he thinks

You are missing the point. Words are not enough to justify your legitimacy. Why would ten people want to deposit their hard earned money into a shady website when they could deposit it into a legit site instead?

Even if you send random amounts to people to test your site, that still wouldn't be enough. The only way you can turn this around is if you listen to our feedback and make the appropriate changes and relaunch it in a better way later.

[justdimin]

First of all even the name of the topic is not really correct way to start. I first read the topic name and thought this was a discussion topic and not an announcement topic. Normally when you announce a game you write the name of the game on the topic itself to get a lot more attention, this way people literally come to this topic to discuss about starting a casino in 2020 and how is it different than starting one before.

Aside from that, like everyone has mentioned before, topic needs to start with good images and good marketing, basically all around better design, even if you are not a scam, this still doesn't change the fact that it needs to have a lot better UI than this to attract customers. Maybe you have great features but as long as it is not appealing you will have hard time getting people to it.

[seoincorporation]

https://bitcoinbetgame.com/#/rules
The withdrawal of assets.
The charge for withdrawal of assets will be paid by the player. This is a fixed fee 0.0004 BTC or 0.4 mBTC

Lottery rules.
Every player has three levels of difficulty and can bet on a lottery at her/his discretion.
GOLDEN LEVEL gives every player a 70% chance to win 30% of betting amount. (For example: You bet on an amount of 0.10 BTC and you win 0.13 BTC ).
SILVER LEVER gives every player a 80% chance to win 20% of betting amount. (For example: You bet on an amount of 0.10 BTC and you win 0.12 BTC).
BROWN LEVEL gives every player a 90% chance to win 10% of betting amount. (For example: You bet on an amount of 0.10 BTC and you win 0.11 BTC).

I don't get the game at all, if you need 10 players to start each round then why the chance to win is 70% to 90%? If there are 10 users and only one win, then the chance to win is 10%.

And if we place a bet of 1.5mbtc to win 1.95mbtc, then we are talking about 10 users paying 1.5mbtc each one, that means the house earns 15mbtc and they pay only 1.95mbtc... that's the worst house edge I have ever seen.

So, the problem with this casino is:
-No provably fair
-Big withdraw fees
-Enormous house edge
-Not a gambling license
-Unclear math

[serjent05]

This throws me off:

you'll ask if it's legal Huh first you have to answer the question  , in which countries Bitcoin is considered a legal means of payment ?? as far as I know is tolerated, but is not an official paying unit

I often hear this from MLM crypto scammers whenever someone asked them about their company licenses.  I am not saying that you (OP) are scammer but you (OP) sounded like one. 

I don't get the game at all, if you need 10 players to start each round then why the chance to win is 70% to 90%? If there are 10 users and only one win, then the chance to win is 10%.

And if we place a bet of 1.5mbtc to win 1.95btc, then we are talking about 10 users paying 1.5mbtc each one, that means the house earns 15mbtc and they pay only 1.95btc... that's the worst house edge I have ever seen.

So, the problem with this casino is:
-No provably fair
-Big withdraw fees
-Enormous house edge
-Not a gambling license
-Unclear math

Bolded some data that confused me.  Isn't the gambling company giving away too much if they give away 1.95 BTC from one of the 10 people who bet 1.5mbtc?

[Bitcoin Marketing]

Way too many red flags here op. Let me summarize my views:

- Horrible ANN thread
- No live customer support
- No way to prove that your games are 100% fair
- Site name is way too shady
- Site design is pretty bad

Overall, this might not be a scam, but you need to improve in all these departments if you wish to attract gamblers.

Well said , well summarized

[ToxicAG]

https://bitcoinbetgame.com/#/rules
The withdrawal of assets.
The charge for withdrawal of assets will be paid by the player. This is a fixed fee 0.0004 BTC or 0.4 mBTC

Lottery rules.
Every player has three levels of difficulty and can bet on a lottery at her/his discretion.
GOLDEN LEVEL gives every player a 70% chance to win 30% of betting amount. (For example: You bet on an amount of 0.10 BTC and you win 0.13 BTC ).
SILVER LEVER gives every player a 80% chance to win 20% of betting amount. (For example: You bet on an amount of 0.10 BTC and you win 0.12 BTC).
BROWN LEVEL gives every player a 90% chance to win 10% of betting amount. (For example: You bet on an amount of 0.10 BTC and you win 0.11 BTC).

I don't get the game at all, if you need 10 players to start each round then why the chance to win is 70% to 90%? If there are 10 users and only one win, then the chance to win is 10%.

And if we place a bet of 1.5mbtc to win 1.95btc, then we are talking about 10 users paying 1.5mbtc each one, that means the house earns 15mbtc and they pay only 1.95btc... that's the worst house edge I have ever seen.

So, the problem with this casino is:
-No provably fair
-Big withdraw fees
-Enormous house edge
-Not a gambling license

you can bet and shut down the computer , if no one joins the game within 24 hours funds are automatically returned to your account
if ten players bet 1.5 mBTC to win 1.95 mBTC of these ten wins seven (70%) and three players lose, seven players collect the 1.95 mBTC (+30%= 0,45 mBTC) , my commission on this bet is 0,45 mBTC so where do you see this advantage here
as far as I know games that do not use normal money and valuables do not necessarily have to have a gambling license
I am in the process of licensing the algorithm  
thank you for your comment , but don't judge too harshly because you don't quite understand
I accept your criticism and I will try to correct everything you write about
As for the forum, I am very sorry for everyone, but this is my second forum in which I write something I don't have the experience here like you all
I greet you



-Unclear math

[ToxicAG]

This throws me off:

you'll ask if it's legal Huh first you have to answer the question  , in which countries Bitcoin is considered a legal means of payment ?? as far as I know is tolerated, but is not an official paying unit

I often hear this from MLM crypto scammers whenever someone asked them about their company licenses.  I am not saying that you (OP) are scammer but you (OP) sounded like one. 

I understand you, and I'm sorry it sounded that way

I don't get the game at all, if you need 10 players to start each round then why the chance to win is 70% to 90%? If there are 10 users and only one win, then the chance to win is 10%.

And if we place a bet of 1.5mbtc to win 1.95btc, then we are talking about 10 users paying 1.5mbtc each one, that means the house earns 15mbtc and they pay only 1.95btc... that's the worst house edge I have ever seen.

So, the problem with this casino is:
-No provably fair
-Big withdraw fees
-Enormous house edge
-Not a gambling license
-Unclear math

Bolded some data that confused me.  Isn't the gambling company giving away too much if they give away 1.95 BTC from one of the 10 people who bet 1.5mbtc?

that's not right, read the post above

[FatFork]

that's not right, read the post above

Also, learn how to quote replies, dammit !

[dunfida]

Way too many red flags here op. Let me summarize my views:

- Horrible ANN thread
- No live customer support
- No way to prove that your games are 100% fair
- Site name is way too shady
- Site design is pretty bad

Overall, this might not be a scam, but you need to improve in all these departments if you wish to attract gamblers.

Well said , well summarized

I cant say such thing , even though he do improve those departments but doesnt guarantee that it would be played by lots of players yet we know on how lottery game sites perform in crypto market as i said
on earlier page.

In short it isnt really that demand.Lastly, i do have that first impressions on seeing a hyip site rather than a lottery one.Ive been asking on proof of funds for this one but it seems it just being ignored by OP. 

[seoincorporation]

https://bitcoinbetgame.com/#/rules
The withdrawal of assets.
The charge for withdrawal of assets will be paid by the player. This is a fixed fee 0.0004 BTC or 0.4 mBTC

Lottery rules.
Every player has three levels of difficulty and can bet on a lottery at her/his discretion.
GOLDEN LEVEL gives every player a 70% chance to win 30% of betting amount. (For example: You bet on an amount of 0.10 BTC and you win 0.13 BTC ).
SILVER LEVER gives every player a 80% chance to win 20% of betting amount. (For example: You bet on an amount of 0.10 BTC and you win 0.12 BTC).
BROWN LEVEL gives every player a 90% chance to win 10% of betting amount. (For example: You bet on an amount of 0.10 BTC and you win 0.11 BTC).

I don't get the game at all, if you need 10 players to start each round then why the chance to win is 70% to 90%? If there are 10 users and only one win, then the chance to win is 10%.

And if we place a bet of 1.5mbtc to win 1.95mbtc, then we are talking about 10 users paying 1.5mbtc each one, that means the house earns 15mbtc and they pay only 1.95mbtc... that's the worst house edge I have ever seen.

So, the problem with this casino is:
-No provably fair
-Big withdraw fees
-Enormous house edge
-Not a gambling license

you can bet and shut down the computer , if no one joins the game within 24 hours funds are automatically returned to your account
if ten players bet 1.5 mBTC to win 1.95 mBTC of these ten wins seven (70%) and three players lose, seven players collect the 1.95 mBTC (+30%= 0,45 mBTC) , my commission on this bet is 0,45 mBTC so where do you see this advantage here
as far as I know games that do not use normal money and valuables do not necessarily have to have a gambling license
I am in the process of licensing the algorithm  
thank you for your comment , but don't judge too harshly because you don't quite understand
I accept your criticism and I will try to correct everything you write about
As for the forum, I am very sorry for everyone, but this is my second forum in which I write something I don't have the experience here like you all
I greet you



-Unclear math

Thanks for your reply ToxicAG, i just want to get the things clear about your casino.

Ok i correct the text, it wasn't 1.95BTC, it was 1.95mbtc... sorry for the typo.

So, 10 players making a depo of 1.5mbtc mean 15mBTC depo... and 7 users win 1.95, that's 13.65mbtc for the users and you get in your pocket 1.35mbtc close to 10% house edge, that's why i don't get why you say your commission is 0,45...

But if those 7 users withdraw their profit that means each one of them should pay 0.0004 BTC as withdrawal fees. and that's 0.0028BTC to your pockets again.

So, what's the sense to have a game to win 1.95 with a 1.5 bet if the casino will take 0.4 for the withdraw?

[YOSHIE]

I noticed something strange about the bitcoinbetgame.com gambling site.

Dear Sir or Madam
I would like to introduce to you a newly opened project , this is a bitcoin game.
https://bitcoinbetgame.com/#/

OP, I see that the site bitcoinbetgame.com has been promoted earlier than OP.

Try to note the two sites the same name, but the contents in different sites.

https://bitcoinbetgames.com/

This one comes first from the OP site.

Topic: BitcoinBetGames.com • FREE BTC • Video Poker • Quincunx • Provably Fair • NEW

Topic: bitcoinbetgames.com UNTRUSTWORTHY

I think this one is official, from the current OP site.