Opening a new gambling website 2020'

[Ailurophile]

Way too many red flags here op. Let me summarize my views:

- Horrible ANN thread
- No live customer support
- No way to prove that your games are 100% fair
- Site name is way too shady
- Site design is pretty bad

Overall, this might not be a scam, but you need to improve in all these departments if you wish to attract gamblers.

If only op would consider your suggestion then the op can edit the ann thread to make it better, prove the fairness to people here  and have a live customer support for the people who might experienced an issue in the site. The site name in my opinion doesn't feel like a gambling site but more of a game that is cryptocurrency based game.

That's right, this is not a gambling site, this is just one game

Are you serious OP? Look at your threads title and you would tell us that this is not a gambling site?
I think you aren't really ready to handle such business at all.
You would promote it as new gambling website and you would tell us that it isn't one because this is just one game?
How do you define a gambling site? does it need to be more than one game to be considered as a gambling site?
Then what is this you are promoting an investment scheme?

[bitbunnny]

Way too many red flags here op. Let me summarize my views:

- Horrible ANN thread
- No live customer support
- No way to prove that your games are 100% fair
- Site name is way too shady
- Site design is pretty bad

Overall, this might not be a scam, but you need to improve in all these departments if you wish to attract gamblers.

If only op would consider your suggestion then the op can edit the ann thread to make it better, prove the fairness to people here  and have a live customer support for the people who might experienced an issue in the site. The site name in my opinion doesn't feel like a gambling site but more of a game that is cryptocurrency based game.

That's right, this is not a gambling site, this is just one game

Are you serious OP? Look at your threads title and you would tell us that this is not a gambling site?
I think you aren't really ready to handle such business at all.
You would promote it as new gambling website and you would tell us that it isn't one because this is just one game?
How do you define a gambling site? does it need to be more than one game to be considered as a gambling site?
Then what is this you are promoting an investment scheme?

That isn't a surprise to me. So much people think they can just grab money from naive users so they come to ideas like this. Of course they don't have enough knowledge, experiences and in most cases they are not trustworthy to run business of any kind but still they hope some will fall for it. And the worst thing is that this is really going to happen. Shady schemes appear all around us all the time.

[ToxicAG]

Way too many red flags here op. Let me summarize my views:

- Horrible ANN thread
- No live customer support
- No way to prove that your games are 100% fair
- Site name is way too shady
- Site design is pretty bad

Overall, this might not be a scam, but you need to improve in all these departments if you wish to attract gamblers.

If only op would consider your suggestion then the op can edit the ann thread to make it better, prove the fairness to people here  and have a live customer support for the people who might experienced an issue in the site. The site name in my opinion doesn't feel like a gambling site but more of a game that is cryptocurrency based game.

That's right, this is not a gambling site, this is just one game

Are you serious OP? Look at your threads title and you would tell us that this is not a gambling site?
I think you aren't really ready to handle such business at all.
You would promote it as new gambling website and you would tell us that it isn't one because this is just one game?
How do you define a gambling site? does it need to be more than one game to be considered as a gambling site?
Then what is this you are promoting an investment scheme?

I didn't say it wasn't a gambling game , this is not a casino, but one game,a casino can be called a site with a minimum of two games , Gambling licenses definitely need a website which have the option of exchanging the cryptocurrency for FIAT and vice versa , they use payment engines VISA , Mastercard , PayPal , Payeer ........... or you can win valuable items on them
You criticize me all the time but look for something about it

[ToxicAG]

https://bitcoinbetgame.com/#/rules
The withdrawal of assets.
The charge for withdrawal of assets will be paid by the player. This is a fixed fee 0.0004 BTC or 0.4 mBTC

Lottery rules.
Every player has three levels of difficulty and can bet on a lottery at her/his discretion.
GOLDEN LEVEL gives every player a 70% chance to win 30% of betting amount. (For example: You bet on an amount of 0.10 BTC and you win 0.13 BTC ).
SILVER LEVER gives every player a 80% chance to win 20% of betting amount. (For example: You bet on an amount of 0.10 BTC and you win 0.12 BTC).
BROWN LEVEL gives every player a 90% chance to win 10% of betting amount. (For example: You bet on an amount of 0.10 BTC and you win 0.11 BTC).

I don't get the game at all, if you need 10 players to start each round then why the chance to win is 70% to 90%? If there are 10 users and only one win, then the chance to win is 10%.

And if we place a bet of 1.5mbtc to win 1.95mbtc, then we are talking about 10 users paying 1.5mbtc each one, that means the house earns 15mbtc and they pay only 1.95mbtc... that's the worst house edge I have ever seen.

So, the problem with this casino is:
-No provably fair
-Big withdraw fees
-Enormous house edge
-Not a gambling license

you can bet and shut down the computer , if no one joins the game within 24 hours funds are automatically returned to your account
if ten players bet 1.5 mBTC to win 1.95 mBTC of these ten wins seven (70%) and three players lose, seven players collect the 1.95 mBTC (+30%= 0,45 mBTC) , my commission on this bet is 0,45 mBTC so where do you see this advantage here
as far as I know games that do not use normal money and valuables do not necessarily have to have a gambling license
I am in the process of licensing the algorithm  
thank you for your comment , but don't judge too harshly because you don't quite understand
I accept your criticism and I will try to correct everything you write about
As for the forum, I am very sorry for everyone, but this is my second forum in which I write something I don't have the experience here like you all
I greet you



-Unclear math

Thanks for your reply ToxicAG, i just want to get the things clear about your casino.

Ok i correct the text, it wasn't 1.95BTC, it was 1.95mbtc... sorry for the typo.

So, 10 players making a depo of 1.5mbtc mean 15mBTC depo... and 7 users win 1.95, that's 13.65mbtc for the users and you get in your pocket 1.35mbtc close to 10% house edge, that's why i don't get why you say your commission is 0,45...

But if those 7 users withdraw their profit that means each one of them should pay 0.0004 BTC as withdrawal fees. and that's 0.0028BTC to your pockets again.

So, what's the sense to have a game to win 1.95 with a 1.5 bet if the casino will take 0.4 for the withdraw?

Hello
my commission is 10% of the amount of 1.5 mBTC = 0.15 mBTC , charge 0.0004 BTC charges Blockchain for withdrawals and not my site , every win is credited to the player's account in the game immediately without any fees , The fee is charged only when withdrawing to an external wallet it is known that how you will pay out daily or several times a day will be expensive

[ToxicAG]

I noticed something strange about the bitcoinbetgame.com gambling site.

Dear Sir or Madam
I would like to introduce to you a newly opened project , this is a bitcoin game.
https://bitcoinbetgame.com/#/

OP, I see that the site bitcoinbetgame.com has been promoted earlier than OP.

Try to note the two sites the same name, but the contents in different sites.

https://bitcoinbetgames.com/
https://bitcoinbetgames.com/img/logo.png

This one comes first from the OP site.

Topic: BitcoinBetGames.com • FREE BTC • Video Poker • Quincunx • Provably Fair • NEW

Topic: bitcoinbetgames.com UNTRUSTWORTHY

I think this one is official, from the current OP site.

I read about them my site has nothing to do with bitcoinbetgames.com

[FatFork]

I didn't say it wasn't a gambling game , this is not a casino, but one game,a casino can be called a site with a minimum of two games , Gambling licenses definitely need a website which have the option of exchanging the cryptocurrency for FIAT and vice versa , they use payment engines VISA , Mastercard , PayPal , Payeer ........... or you can win valuable items on them
You criticize me all the time but look for something about it

You are definitely wrong. Gambling licenses have nothing to do with deposit and withdrawal options.
You should read something about it first.

You're still avoiding the 'provably fair' question. Why would anyone bet on your site when there are a number of legitimate casinos with much better odds?

[ethereumhunter]

One new gambling site launch, but I wonder why we need to register to the site just to test the site? Is the OP want to know how big the interest of people or he wants to collect the email address from the people? I guess that he can make a demo account or temporary account so we can test the site, and we don't have to register, and maybe if the site becomes bigger, then the OP can promote with many methods.

[naikturun]

the simple review from me,what a gambling site giving a guarantee to win up to 90% , if there must required 10 people for each gameplay.
so that mean every people have 90% chance ? itsn't ? and the meaning of it every gameplay just 1 player will lose ? and also i bet for 10% winning amount ? , its too unfair.
i prefer choose a simple loterry.

[ToxicAG]

One new gambling site launch, but I wonder why we need to register to the site just to test the site? Is the OP want to know how big the interest of people or he wants to collect the email address from the people? I guess that he can make a demo account or temporary account so we can test the site, and we don't have to register, and maybe if the site becomes bigger, then the OP can promote with many methods.

you don't have to provide an email address, but this will make communication difficult you can enter, for example, an email address   bobo@tutti.com

[seoincorporation]

...
Hello
my commission is 10% of the amount of 1.5 mBTC = 0.15 mBTC , charge 0.0004 BTC charges Blockchain for withdrawals and not my site , every win is credited to the player's account in the game immediately without any fees , The fee is charged only when withdrawing to an external wallet it is known that how you will pay out daily or several times a day will be expensive

Your commission of 10% is an enormous house edge, you should think about it. Casinos should have a house edge 3% max.

The provably fair issue is something important because if you can prove your bets are provably fair then they are rigged.

And about the 0.0004btc charged from blockchain, that's a lie... if we see https://bitcoinfees.earn.com/ we have:

For the median transaction size of 223 bytes, this results in a fee of 4,906 satoshis.

While you charge 40,000 satoshis.

I tell you all this because i really like casinos, and if you fix this thing people will trust in your site, another way they will feel scammed.

So, good luck and happy gambling.

[ToxicAG]

I didn't say it wasn't a gambling game , this is not a casino, but one game,a casino can be called a site with a minimum of two games , Gambling licenses definitely need a website which have the option of exchanging the cryptocurrency for FIAT and vice versa , they use payment engines VISA , Mastercard , PayPal , Payeer ........... or you can win valuable items on them
You criticize me all the time but look for something about it

You are definitely wrong. Gambling licenses have nothing to do with deposit and withdrawal options.
You should read something about it first.

You're still avoiding the 'provably fair' question. Why would anyone bet on your site when there are a number of legitimate casinos with much better odds?

The legislation in the area of Bitcoin gambling is very immature and leaves a lot of space for speculation. Operators starting their online casinos that will accept Bitcoin are often confused by controversial facts and ambiguous decisions of authorities in regards to the cryptocurrency. Desiring to operate their business in a legal way, they try to find out if offering gambling services for Bitcoin is legal, whether a Bitcoin casino needs to be licensed, and players from what countries can be accepted.

Key facts on Bitcoin gambling legality
As of today there are no single, clear-cut answers to the questions above. However, here are some useful key points that need to be understood:

1) In general there are no specific laws regulating Bitcoin gambling. It is neither officially allowed nor prohibited.

2) Attitude of different authorities to Bitcoin is changing quite rapidly, with more and more countries looking at Bitcoin positively and discussing regulation of cryptocurrencies and blockchain-based services. However, most governments today are still not referring to Bitcoin as to real currency. If it’s not a “real” currency, any regulations around traditional (fiat currency) online casinos should not be applied to Bitcoin gambling websites.

3) Despite the above, in countries where gambling is strictly prohibited, like the United States, the authorities may still take strong measures against Bitcoin gambling websites and/or gamblers who make wagers with Bitcoin.

4) Bitcoin gaming websites offer the benefit of increased anonymity to players. Bitcoin payments combined with anonymizing techniques like Tor make it extremely hard for the authorities to trace gamblers.

5) A few reputable gambling jurisdictions already issue licenses to casinos accepting Bitcoin (notably, Curacao and the United Kingdom), which means they accept the responsibility of controlling operation of cryptocurrency websites. As long as the online casino is following the rules and regulations of the chosen jurisdiction, it operates legally.

Should a Bitcoin casino have a gambling license?
It is important to understand that a gambling license is absolutely necessary for an iGaming business to pass the application for a merchant bank account and to officially work with electronic payment systems. When the casino website is working with Bitcoin, all of payment processing can be performed internally with no third party services involved that can control the crypto payment infrastructure. Deposits and withdrawals are transferred almost instantly and Bitcoins move directly between the player’s and the casino’s Bitcoin wallets. Thus, the necessity to present a gaming license to any financial institutions is eliminated. Therefore one could argue that when it comes to working with Bitcoin, a gambling license is optional or at least not a prerequisite to accepting payments.

[YOSHIE]

I read about them my site has nothing to do with bitcoinbetgames.com

so what is the name of the site that you have. Lol

There is a suspicion about your site is very vulnerable to fraud, we are familiar with this kind of site.
It's not that easy we fall in love with a scam site.

Dear Sir or Madam
I would like to introduce to you a newly opened project , this is a bitcoin game
https://bitcoinbetgame.com/#/

There are several methods that should be suspected of your site at this time.

1. gmail, which you use is named: bitcoinbetgame.com.
2. Your Facebook and Twitter can't open the link.
3. Your site telegram is not the same as your site.

@BitcoinLotteryMultiplier2020

Usually if the gambling site is officially telegram, facebook, twitter the same as the website name and can be opened immediately.

Everything on your site is suspicious.

[ToxicAG]

...
Hello
my commission is 10% of the amount of 1.5 mBTC = 0.15 mBTC , charge 0.0004 BTC charges Blockchain for withdrawals and not my site , every win is credited to the player's account in the game immediately without any fees , The fee is charged only when withdrawing to an external wallet it is known that how you will pay out daily or several times a day will be expensive

Your commission of 10% is an enormous house edge, you should think about it. Casinos should have a house edge 3% max.

The provably fair issue is something important because if you can prove your bets are provably fair then they are rigged.

And about the 0.0004btc charged from blockchain, that's a lie... if we see https://bitcoinfees.earn.com/ we have:

For the median transaction size of 223 bytes, this results in a fee of 4,906 satoshis.

While you charge 40,000 satoshis.

I tell you all this because i really like casinos, and if you fix this thing people will trust in your site, another way they will feel scammed.

So, good luck and happy gambling.

40,000 satoshis it's the cost of paying for an external wallet
I agree with you I will try to change it in the future, I don't like it either , unfortunately iformatists have now set up a payer system that charges such fees
I am really sorry for such inconvenience

[FatFork]

<snip>

I have no idea where you copied that text from (you did not provide the source of the quote) but things are not that simple.
For example, read this article: https://cointelegraph.com/news/how-crypto-gambling-is-regulated-around-the-world

So the least you should do is restrict access to players from certain countries.

[serjent05]

I read about them my site has nothing to do with bitcoinbetgames.com

so what is the name of the site that you have. Lol

There is a suspicion about your site is very vulnerable to fraud, we are familiar with this kind of site.
It's not that easy we fall in love with a scam site.

Dear Sir or Madam
I would like to introduce to you a newly opened project , this is a bitcoin game
https://bitcoinbetgame.com/#/

Technically speaking these two site is not the same unless there is a proven fact that the owner of both sites is the same.  Bitcoinbetgame.com is not = Bitcoinbetgames.com.  Though I slightly agree with you on your thought about the presentation of their site.
 For me, it does not support any gambling site that they are legit and not a scam if their email looks professional or they have a complete set of social media where we can contact them.  If a company wanted to scam us, they will do their best to be the most presentable so they will be unnoticed of their hidden agenda.  We should be vigilant no matter how beautiful or sloppy the site presentation is until they have proven that they can be trusted.

[naikturun]

the simple review from me,what a gambling site giving a guarantee to win up to 90% , if there must required 10 people for each gameplay.
so that mean every people have 90% chance ? itsn't ? and the meaning of it every gameplay just 1 player will lose ? and also i bet for 10% winning amount ? , its too unfair.
i prefer choose a simple loterry.

it is not fair that one player out of ten loses ??  ,  and is it fair when one in a thousand players wins ??
I'm sorry but I don't understand your point

at least i am not bet for 10% profit on gambling site, u know exactly about 10% profit can be get easily without high risk become a bad luck player such as holding some coins or try to invest rather than playing here. Also about traditional lottery is totally reasonible since the profit also reasonible,because actually gambling its not about risk,but about profit.
that why,u didn't understand my point.