Bernie Sanders is the Frontrunner for the Dems

[TwitchySeal]

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The Nazi party campaigned on socialist ideas (and lost), and labeled themselves socialists, but as soon as they assumed power Hitler immediately had the senior officials of every opposition political party murdered along with their families and other supporters.

Then he invaded a bunch of countries and forced every man to either fight for him or have their family murdered.

He murdered almost 10 million people just because they were Jewish, gay, disabled or suspected of criticizing the Nazi party.

Using the Nazi party as an example of why someone shouldn't vote for Bernie is pretty silly unless you believe Bernie has some secret agenda to become a dictator.

But isn't that the very point that people continue to warn about, as a fundamental flaw in the theory of socialism?

"as soon as they assumed power "

... they can do anything they want...

So why, exactly, should you believe Bernie on anything?

He's been pushing the same healthcare, healthcare, immigration and labor policies while also defending the idea of democracy and the freedoms that come with it for 40 years.  I'm convinced that he really does believe that his policies would do more good than anything anyone else has proposed.  (Note: Personally, I'm not convinced that his policies are the answer right now)

There are tons of valid reasons to be anti-Bernie, but, in my opinion, being worried that he will try to become a dictator, take over the world, execute all who oppose him, or commit genocide are not among them.

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[vladimirhf]

I'm not sure what else to say...

copy and paste then    I know that you can't articulate anything.

pro tip: follow the money. who profited? how were the profits "socialized"?

Yes, I did copy and paste, just to verify that you cannot articulate a logical argument.

It's nothing to me, by the way. I don't care if you consider the German NAZI party socialists or not.

you pasted a text about supply and demand, yea I'm sure that price control goes against the principles of liberalism.
But call this socialism is a big leap without any basis. I asked you about the profits, where did they go? I'm articulating dude.
put your neurons to work. Chip and Dale, hello?

[Spendulus]

I'm not sure what else to say...

copy and paste then    I know that you can't articulate anything.

pro tip: follow the money. who profited? how were the profits "socialized"?

Yes, I did copy and paste, just to verify that you cannot articulate a logical argument.

It's nothing to me, by the way. I don't care if you consider the German NAZI party socialists or not.

you pasted a text about supply and demand, yea I'm sure that price control goes against the principles of liberalism.
But call this socialism is a big leap without any basis. I asked you about the profits, where did they go? I'm articulating dude.
put your neurons to work. Chip and Dale, hello?

"Liberals" have countless real world examples of price control. There was an old today-obsolete concept of liberalism, which sure, maybe that could be argued there, but I doubt it.

Why should I care how or if profits were socialized? Actual practice of socialism typically shows the highest echelons of government keep the vast majority of profits, so clearly, the "socialization of profits" cannot be a determination of whether a society is socialistic.

It's common understanding among those who have studied the Third Reich, Mises description of the minute detailed control of industry by the state's officials is accurate.

[vladimirhf]

"Liberals" have countless real world examples of price control. There was an old today-obsolete concept of liberalism, which sure, maybe that could be argued there, but I doubt it.

you are using this to claim that Nazis were socialists. so that text was not so good to prove your point (?) are you lost? are you ok?
Do you understand that Mises was liberal and the text is defending liberal values?

I see you did not understand the text fully, I guess it just looks "smart" to you and presents the conclusion you want. So you pasted it... but you are unable to think and talk about it.

Why should I care how or if profits were socialized?

because I expect you to show more evidences that Nazism was socialist.

Actual practice of socialism typically shows the highest echelons of government keep the vast majority of profits, so clearly, the "socialization of profits" cannot be a determination of whether a society is socialistic.

according to who? you? I insist, sorry. Who took the profits? Did the state use industry money to create public services?

It's common understanding among those who have studied the Third Reich, Mises description of the minute detailed control of industry by the state's officials is accurate.

what is common understanding? the existence of price control? why this makes it socialist? show me more authors agreeing with Mises. He is widely ignored in the Academy because his work is superficial and irrelevant. Do you know who likes to quote him? Ultra Liberal Think Tanks and its readers.

Pro tip: Try to quote Hayek next time. Maybe he can help you, a little bit. go Google it  

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[vladimirhf]

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[BADecker]

If Bernie is the frontrunner, he better run faster, or he'll get runover.

[vladimirhf]

If Bernie is the frontrunner, he better run faster, or he'll get runover.

all I see here is people running out of arguments 

[BADecker]

If Bernie is the frontrunner, he better run faster, or he'll get runover.

all I see here is people running out of arguments 

All I see here is Bernie running into arguments. Hope the arguments don't shut down with Bernie inside. We might lose him, and we wouldn't want that, now, would we?

[vladimirhf]

If Bernie is the frontrunner, he better run faster, or he'll get runover.

all I see here is people running out of arguments 

All I see here is Bernie running into arguments. Hope the arguments don't shut down with Bernie inside. We might lose him, and we wouldn't want that, now, would we?

is this supposed to be funny? 

do not confuse politicians with your football team or your favorite wrestler. grow up.

[Spendulus]

Always...always sniff very carefully at the FREE CHEESE!

[BADecker]

If Bernie is the frontrunner, he better run faster, or he'll get runover.

all I see here is people running out of arguments 

All I see here is Bernie running into arguments. Hope the arguments don't shut down with Bernie inside. We might lose him, and we wouldn't want that, now, would we?

is this supposed to be funny? 

do not confuse politicians with your football team or your favorite wrestler. grow up.

Football and wrestling aren't all that funny. But politics is.     

[vladimirhf]

Always...always sniff very carefully at the FREE CHEESE!

I'm glad you found a simple text that you can fully understand. with some efforts you'll be able to reach the green level in 4 or 5 years.

[mayo2u]

He's been pushing the same healthcare, healthcare, immigration and labor policies while also defending the idea of democracy and the freedoms that come with it for 40 years.  I'm convinced that he really does believe that his policies would do more good than anything anyone else has proposed.  (Note: Personally, I'm not convinced that his policies are the answer right now)

There are tons of valid reasons to be anti-Bernie, but, in my opinion, being worried that he will try to become a dictator, take over the world, execute all who oppose him, or commit genocide are not among them.

No. He completely flipped on both immigration and the Second Amendment. He also used to be in favor of free speech and hasn't said a peep about cancel culture.

He's also stayed mum about intersectional theory which contradicts his labour / marxist viewpoints.

No. Bernie has not been consistent.

[Spendulus]

Always...always sniff very carefully at the FREE CHEESE!

I'm glad you found a simple text that you can fully understand. with some efforts you'll be able to reach the green ...

Wait, did the American People reject your Bolshevik Bernie? But you got your free brown shirt, right?

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Always...always sniff very carefully at the FREE CHEESE!

I'm glad you found a simple text that you can fully understand. with some efforts you'll be able to reach the green level in 4 or 5 years.

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Too bad you can't make it past orange.

[vladimirhf]

Too bad you can't make it past orange.

I did a few posts above. nobody was able to answer and started posting memes, there's no way to take it seriously   when the accusation is pertinent it is not a fallacy. if you continue the philosophy class beyond lesson one you will learn that too.

[squatz1]

I like how things change so fast in the world of politics that I posted this and now it's not true, crazy what a week or so can do (crazy what Super Tuesday can do). Biden is now the frontrunner and has the momentum behind him, we'll see if he's able to use that momentum to continue to rack up wins in the delegate count.

This is a pretty wild prediction, but, I think this MAY be a wakeupcall to the Bernie Sanders voters that they're going to have to go out their and vote. This isn't a sure thing anymore. They have to make their coalition go out their and vote, and they have to fucking beg Warren to drop out. She's splitting the vote and truly killing Bernies chances of competing in the delegate #'s

[TwitchySeal]

I like how things change so fast in the world of politics that I posted this and now it's not true, crazy what a week or so can do (crazy what Super Tuesday can do). Biden is now the frontrunner and has the momentum behind him, we'll see if he's able to use that momentum to continue to rack up wins in the delegate count.

This is a pretty wild prediction, but, I think this MAY be a wakeupcall to the Bernie Sanders voters that they're going to have to go out their and vote. This isn't a sure thing anymore. They have to make their coalition go out their and vote, and they have to fucking beg Warren to drop out. She's splitting the vote and truly killing Bernies chances of competing in the delegate #'s

The way things have been going I feel like the least likely scenario is Biden keeps his momentum and it's smooth sailing to the convention.

[bones261]

The way things have been going I feel like the least likely scenario is Biden keeps his momentum and it's smooth sailing to the convention.

Let's wait until the next debate. If Warren stays with it, I'm sure she has a lot of nasty things to say about Biden. Perhaps Tulsi will get to participate too and join in the fun.